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How many verizon people are Jumping on the $400 dev edition deal

How many fellow verizon users, particularly galaxy nexus users are tempted to pick up the developer edition on Monday? I think I will bite. Hopefully once this sale happens development will start to pick up since it seems like a lot of people are going to bite this deal.

blackhand1001 said:
How many fellow verizon users, particularly galaxy nexus users are tempted to pick up the developer edition on Monday? I think I will bite. Hopefully once this sale happens development will start to pick up since it seems like a lot of people are going to bite this deal.
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Former Galaxy Nexus, current Moto X Dev Ed user checking in here. Can't recommend this phone enough. Best I've ever had, and first I've ever had that quelled my desire for CM. Get it.
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Trying out T mobile with a Nexus 5 now. I love the phone and the service works well enough. Still thinking about picking up the X though so I can stay with VZ. Corp discount, much wider coverage, and unlimited data is hard to leave. I've been traveling over the holiday and haven't gotten signal in some areas with TMO. Not used to having to worry about that. The only thing that concerns me about the X is the near total lack of development. It's running 4.4 now but it remains to be seen if that update pace will continue in the future.

I have a feeling more people will jump on the custom versions. Especially now that root is available for 4.4 and AOSP isn't worth giving up Moto X features.
Edit: I had the Dev edition and am thinking about the custom version myself.
Edit: Just saw this as well http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48033832#post48033832

Currently have a Dev edition and may be trying out a custom one. Thing that sucks is I can't decide what color combinations I want. I like the look of the Dev edition though so I'm not worried if I can't get in on this. Hopefully Moto added some extra server capacity...but in the end it doesn't really matter since demand always exceeds the preparation.

If I do get it, it will definitely be the dev edition. I wish it was black but I plan on putting a case on it anyway so the front is really the only part that matters.

chaoslimits said:
I have a feeling more people will jump on the custom versions. Especially now that root is available for 4.4 and AOSP isn't worth giving up Moto X features.
Edit: I had the Dev edition and am thinking about the custom version myself.
Edit: Just saw this as well http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48033832#post48033832
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I just like the fact that with an unlocked bootloader I never have to worry about a future update killing root, etc.

theres about 5 of us among my friends who all rocked the vzw gnex.
i sold mine for a nokia 928 over the summer and then went moto x a few weeks ago. never looked back.
one switched to tmobile for a nexus 5..but now is tempted to get a tmobile moto x and randomlly sim swap cause of the deal.
and i think i convinced the remaining 3 to all go for the deal tomorrow to replace their gnex's haha
I debated swapping my 16gb for a 32gb dev edition...but i'm okay with running stock on this beauty.

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I just like the fact that with an unlocked bootloader I never have to worry about a future update killing root, etc.
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Me too but I really haven't seen a need for root that I couldn't live without. My Dev Ed remained without root for 3 weeks and I only rooted it out of curiosity after they changed the warranty.

How does the moto X compare with the Nexus 5?

Wait, so is the VZW version of moto X rootable? What's the deal with the big bounty?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2493862&page=8
I really want to get a customized one but not if I'm going to have a horrible rooted experience.

I would jump if I hadn't already. Great phone.
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nvertigo said:
Wait, so is the VZW version of moto X rootable? What's the deal with the big bounty?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2493862&page=8
I really want to get a customized one but not if I'm going to have a horrible rooted experience.
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That's for the bootloader locked version. I believe 'fastboot oem unlock' will unlock the dev edition, just like the gnex.
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mwalt2 said:
That's for the bootloader locked version. I believe 'fastboot oem unlock' will unlock the dev edition, just like the gnex.
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Almost. You need to retrieve the unlock code from Motorola first. Then it's fastboot oem unlock codegoeshere

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Wait, so is the VZW version of moto X rootable? What's the deal with the big bounty?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2493862&page=8
I really want to get a customized one but not if I'm going to have a horrible rooted experience.
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Yes. It is root able for 4.2.2 & 4.4
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I'm coming from an S3, picking up the Moto X today with the sale. I'm torn between the DE and a custom. Right now I'm leaning towards custom because of all the great reviews of Moto's edits. BUT, I am worried about the longevity of the device lacking an unlocked bootloader.
Any advice?

I just picked up a vzw developer while it was in stock. I am having buyers remorse though as I have an HTC One currently. I need to be able to sell my One to make up for the cost of the Dev X or it will have to go back.

JWorth said:
I'm coming from an S3, picking up the Moto X today with the sale. I'm torn between the DE and a custom. Right now I'm leaning towards custom because of all the great reviews of Moto's edits. BUT, I am worried about the longevity of the device lacking an unlocked bootloader.
Any advice?
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I'm also having worries about this device (except that it looks awesome). I'm just not seeing much activity for this device compared to others. I'm wondering if I should just wait another month or two and get the LG G2 for free when my contract is up instead of buying this? Oy.

I jumped on the deal. Of course, "jumped" in this context means I spent eight hours bashing my head against Motorola's broken website before I was finally able to place an order, and by the looks of their Twitter feed I was one of the lucky ones. They left a lot of people out in the cold today, with the website issues combined with limited inventory....
Been looking for a replacement for my Galaxy Nexus almost since day one. I love the ease of flashing that puppy but almost everything else about it stinks. Crappy battery life, particularly on LTE, but the real kicker was the never ending reception problems. Others have documented these issues, and I've been through three replacement phones (at least Verizon tried!) without success. It's fine for me when I'm stationary, most of the issues seem to be with handoffs while mobile. I've dropped calls with the GNex in parts of VZW's network where I haven't seen dropped calls since the Bell Atlantic days....
$400 for the unlocked DE is an awesome deal, I think, particularly for users with grandfathered unlimited data who want a flagship phone. On that same note, I'm told it works flawlessly with T-Mobile, so if Verizon pulls UL data I know what 'Plan B' is.....

RyanTX said:
I just picked up a vzw developer while it was in stock. I am having buyers remorse though as I have an HTC One currently. I need to be able to sell my One to make up for the cost of the Dev X or it will have to go back.
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I hope you are aware that the return policy says it takes 4-6 weeks to get a refund from they date they receive the phone back.

Motorola delays Moto X Cyber Monday deal after site crash

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57...ys-moto-x-cyber-monday-deal-after-site-crash/
"Starting at 12 pm EST/9 am PST this Wednesday, we will relaunch the $349 promotion."
Good news!
So this gives me a bit to consider between:
1) Getting a Moto X DE on Wednesday
2) Ordering a Nexus 5
3) Sticking with my HTC One XL until July -> contract renewal time
Wondering if some Moto X owners can weigh in. The thing that is attracting me to this phone the most is the battery life. My HOX battery (I feel) is going bad. Many symptoms which point to this, listing them all would probably be too OT. Bottom line is that with no "misbehaving apps" or anything - I'm seeing maybe 2 hours of screen time before my phone dies, on a good day. So trying to figure out if I want to put up with this until July and see what's available then or jumping on this deal.
I see there isn't much development going on for this device compared to the Nexus 5. But honestly most of my flashing ROMs/kernels have been vain attempts to improve battery life on my previous and current phone. Is there a point to flashing custom ROMs to this phone? From what I've read the greater majority of people actually prefer the stock Motorola ROM with their custom apps over CM, AOSP, etc. Going back to the Nexus 5, which is suppose to always get the latest and greatest from Google, the Moto X is already on 4.4 as well, any thoughts as to if this trend will continue from Motorola?
I've also read of some issues with the camera - can anyone weigh in here on the camera quality? While I'm not one of those people who snap a million photos a day - I still like to have something reliable in my pocket to take a good photo when the situation arises.
I hope this isn't too rambling and terribly OT. I would appreciate any input.

Two cents: I'm fairly certain that the promotion on Wednesday is only for Motomaker devices, and not Dev Editions. Those sold out already, I believe.
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They've stated on their twitter account that the dev editions have sold out and will not be available on the subsequent days of the deal. You could order a t-mobile variant which is the same as the developer edition with the exception of voiding the warranty when unlocking the boot loader.
I managed to get a developer edition in the second batch yesterday, but I'm still debating on canceling and trying for a customized t-mobile variant. I currently have an AT&T version that I'm going to sell, but the Moto X is easily the best android phone I've used. The combination of size, battery life and additional features is just hard to beat. My previous two phones where the HTC One and SIII and I would personally take the Moto over either of them and the S4.

xd1936 said:
Two cents: I'm fairly certain that the promotion on Wednesday is only for Motomaker devices, and not Dev Editions. Those sold out already, I believe.
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bugsy said:
They've stated on their twitter account that the dev editions have sold out and will not be available on the subsequent days of the deal. You could order a t-mobile variant which is the same as the developer edition with the exception of voiding the warranty when unlocking the boot loader.
I managed to get a developer edition in the second batch yesterday, but I'm still debating on canceling and trying for a customized t-mobile variant. I currently have an AT&T version that I'm going to sell, but the Moto X is easily the best android phone I've used. The combination of size, battery life and additional features is just hard to beat. My previous two phones where the HTC One and SIII and I would personally take the Moto over either of them and the S4.
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Bummer. Thanks for the heads up re: DE. If I buy the Motomaker version - I can still root, but not unlock bootloader, is that correct? Honestly from what I've been reading - rooting will probably be sufficient.

sm753 said:
Bummer. Thanks for the heads up re: DE. If I buy the Motomaker version - I can still root, but not unlock bootloader, is that correct? Honestly from what I've been reading - rooting will probably be sufficient.
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If you buy the t-mobile version you can still unlock the boot loader, they just state that it will void the warranty. I don't find myself needing to do much to the Moto X, I just don't like being at the mercy of AT&T and their notoriously slow updates and bloatware which is why I'm switching. The t-mobile and gsm dev edition are the same device internally.

The sale yesterday was the biggest cluster eff I've ever seen for a phone. I had a dev edition in my cart multiple times yesterday and was never able to check out. All were sold out but today mysteriously some gsm phones in stock for normal price. No luck on them honoring the price. Total b.s.. I said I would never own a Moto phone after the defy abd cliq and was almost there...but I can honestly say after the bs yesterday with the site crashing at nearly the start Motorola needs to step up for the developers. I am at a loss as to why if the t mobile version is almost the same why they wouldn't sell a few more dev phones on Wed and Mon.
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bugsy said:
If you buy the t-mobile version you can still unlock the boot loader, they just state that it will void the warranty. I don't find myself needing to do much to the Moto X, I just don't like being at the mercy of AT&T and their notoriously slow updates and bloatware which is why I'm switching. The t-mobile and gsm dev edition are the same device internally.
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They may be the same but you're unable to load the dev image on the tmobile device. That and warranty are the deal breaker.
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What would you do?

I am a fan of Samsung phones, I had the first Samsung S, and most recently have the S4.
S4 is a good piece of hardware, I got it launch day, patiently awaited the community here to root and put on the Google Edition Rom. All was well. Problem is I smashed the screen and had to use the insurance to get a replacement. Got a brand new phone, that's how new the whole thing was. Soon after smashing, I dropped it and got a small crack in the corner. That ended up running across the phone, and with all the damage I decided to shed the case and a few months later, I had an accident that rendered the phone useless. So it sits in my drawer.
I still have the insurance, and have only replaced it once, so I have one more. The cost to replace is $200. Which is absurd. But that's where we're at.
One of the setbacks I had once I got the new phone is I rooted but never turned off the OTA's. So, ended up on MK2. I'm a casual recreational phone modder. So not being able to use CWM, or put a custom rom on had pretty much killed all my fun...
But now I have no phone at all...
I did find out I'm eligible to upgrade my phone to the NEXT plan on AT&T. So technically I could get a whole new phone, pay quite a bit but spread it over the year, and be eligible for an upgrade again next February. Not sure if that plan is all it's cracked up to be.
Here are my choices:
1) Pay $200 and get the Galaxy S4 - I would be eligible for a new phone in March 2015.
2) Stick with an old Iphone 4 for a couple of months, wait for the S5, and jump on that with the NEXT plan.
3) Sign up for the NEXT plan and get a different phone, one that's more mod friendly. Options like:
- LG2
- HTC One
- Moto X
- the LG curved phone
- Are any of these phones starting to get shut down like the S4?
4) Sign up for the NEXT plan and suck it up and get the Note 3, which is locked down like the S4, but is a phone I really want.
5) Stick with the used slow Iphone 4 I'm using now indefinitely.
6) Get a Nexus 5...does that even work on the At&T network?
7) Some other option I haven't considered...
What do you think?

Save your money where ever you can from ATT and take that money and buy the S5 from T-Mobile or International as long as we can still root them and they don't have locked bootloaders.
I don't plan on giving ATT another dime on any locked up phones... Ever
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Nexus 5, all day long.

If you want to flash Roms and mess with your phone go with the n5, overall day to day use that's stock android fast and stable go moto x all you need is root and gravity box and nothing more. Not much ROM support for the moto x because its pretty much perfect the way it is.
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Wait a couple months for the S5 to come out, hopefully the S4 prices will drop, then get an S4 on bargain.

Who is buying the S5?

OK so there are alot of posts from people stating this or that, but i haven't actually seen anybody who really is confirming if they are getting the device or not. Long story short, Who is actually waiting for the galaxy S5 to release, and what carrier? I am also interested if any Devs chime in to confirm they are going to be developing for the device. etc.
THANKS GUYS!!!
UPDATE: Leaning towards the M8.
:good::good::good::good:

Providing all things to do with sound is on par with s4/note 3 then defo yes.
so a loud loudspeaker
loud earpiece
loud enough audio in headphones

If root doesn't screw things around (Knox), I'll get one. Can't wait to see the blue one personally.

I'll be getting it the day it drops as well -- AT&T. I've got my eye on the "electric blue" model.

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I'll be getting it the day it drops as well -- AT&T. I've got my eye on the "electric blue" model.
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Yep, same here, at&t and Elextric Blue. I cant friggin wait to be honest! been saving my upgrade for a while now.

Let's see I have the Vivid which on my AT&T plan is way overdue for an upgrade.
I waited for the Nexus 5 then wasn't happy with the reviews so decided to wait for the S5 but now see the HTC M8 is coming soon followed by the Note 3.
At this rate I'll just sit back and watch all these good phones come and go while I stay with my Vivid!
I will probably get the S5, it' silly being on an AT&T contract and not taking advantage of the subsidized phones.

Of course I'll buy the oppo find 7 instead

Not unless a 32GB developer edition for VZW comes out. NoMo locked bootloaders for me.

I ordered the black one the day after the presentation at Barcelona, while not impressed at all by the presentation this phone will certainly be competent enough for me to hack away on for a good time coming :good:
I really like the soft shape and materials of the S5, its called user friendly!

I'm getting it on sprint, but I'm really curious to see if the premium version rumors are true, so I'm going to wait till May.

stas333 said:
I'm getting it on sprint, but I'm really curious to see if the premium version rumors are true, so I'm going to wait till May.
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My feelings exactly....I want the S5 but.....if another version is coming in may. I will wait for that one....

jamezr said:
My feelings exactly....I want the S5 but.....if another version is coming in may. I will wait for that one....
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if there is no premium, i would jump all over the xperia z2 if it came to sprint, but most likely it wont, so GS5 may be my only option. Still will be a good upgrade from GS3.

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I'm getting it on sprint, but I'm really curious to see if the premium version rumors are true, so I'm going to wait till May.
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Ditto, but on AT&T. If no premium version comes out I'd be fine with the S5, if I like how it feels in-hand.
My S2 is still ticking, but I'm itching for an upgrade.

Hope it supports voodoo
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I can't wait to get a chance to test out the S5 in store as well as the M8, in my opinion that's the only way to get a true feel/judgement for the phone. At the moment I am heavily leaning towards the S5 but the Oppo Find 7 has me a bit excited.
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I have an upgrade in April and 2 in June so the plan is for the s5 to get me by til then and hopefully the new HTC and the new LG will both be available by then. I always enjoy Samsung devices when i first get them, but they grow stale quickly and i want something new to play with.

Waiting for release and initial price drop to normal to buy....
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Not going to buy it, for the featured specs it's too big and I don't need a fingerprint sensor (don't trust things like that) and all the fitness gadgets. Also not a big fan of all the bloatware "worth" $500.
Going to wait for the premium version if that doesn't happen, I'll be be buying the S4 Advanced or Blackberry Q20

I was going to get the S5, then said no and got the Note 3. After a week I realized it was just too big for daily use so I did some comparisons on S4's and other devices in the 5" range. I returned it to AT&T and decided to wait for the S5. I immediately pre-ordered my Spigen case and Glas.tR Slim tempered glass protector for mid April time frame. I don't see the 2GB vs 3GB of RAM as an issue since I never really used the 3GB ever on my prior Note 3's (Verizon or AT&T) and when I had the GS4 I never used the 2GB of RAM so I don't see that as an issue. HRM isn't the draw for me, fingerprint isn't either. But 32GB of storage, microSD and what appears to be finally a solid camera IS the draw.

MAYBE.
I will FOR SURE NOT GET the ATT or Verizon S5 (I am on ATT network) I have had the ATT Galaxy S, ATT S2, ATT S3, ATT S4 BUT I was lucky to get my S4 before they locked the bootloader down hard. So I was able to use the great Motochopper +Casual root and twrp recovery. So I can flash ANYTHING like normal in the past. ASOP BASED/GE/TW BASED Roms.
The problem with the S4 after MF3 4.3 firmware was it was locked down HARDER and you can only use safestrap. This ONLY allows flashing SOME Roms and NO asop/CM/aokp/GE Roms AT ALL. Just check out the ATT S4 forums for details on using safestrap which is the only type of recovery available for 4.3. Nothing for the 4.4.2 at this time. So IF I got my S4 at a later date there is NO way I would have dealt with it flashing only a limited variety of anything.
ATT already stated they will NOT use any phone except bootloader locked in the future. So I am out. This is the same for Verizon.
Now IF I say YES that I am getting the S5 it will HAVE to be either T-Mobile or International version as at least with the S4 they do NOT lock the bootloaders. So I will be buying it NOT on contract.
So save your money for a unlocked bootloader model rather than using your upgrade. Cause I can guarantee you with ATT or Verizon you will NOT be flashing Roms and stuff very easily or at all. It will most likely be locked down harder than the S4 is now. The 4.4.2 firmware has been out about a month for the ATT S4 and a bootloader bypass has not been found yet.
Even if there is a good bypass (I say good not GREAT) like Safestrap I will NOT spend my money and upgrade on. IF a true bypass to the bootloader is found (like MotoChopper) then I would do it. But MotoChopper only worked on the first two firmwares the S4 had. So IF YOU WANT TO FLASH Roms and such Do Not purchase from ATT or Verizon. This will ALSO limit devs and Roms coming to the locked bootloader versions.
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Wondering about development interest for roms and such?

Well I gave up my lg v20 to go back to the s7 (tmobile). It was an impulse trade. Now I've regretted it because of the lack of development in the areas of roms, themes, locked bootloader, and such. MY question is this, what's your opinion of the s8 and s8+..? Are they going to go down in flames or will there be a resurgence of interest in samsung again?
Your answers will help me decide whether to get one right off the bat or wait for another flagship device that's coming out in the next couple of months.

With Samsung's current path to block root I doubt there will be much development at least not for a while. I haven't rooted my last 3 phones (note 5&7 v20), because it's become such a hassle anymore.
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With Samsung's current path to block root I doubt there will be much development at least not for a while. I haven't rooted my last 3 phones (note 5&7 v20), because it's become such a hassle anymore.
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Thanks for your reply, I was wondering if the s8 was going to have a locked bootloader. That'll make my decision easily.

I would almost put money on the bootloader being locked. Not saying one of the devs here won't get around it, but it could take some time.
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Development is becoming more difficult on all phones not just Samsung. Google are making things more difficult for developers. The days of ROM and Kernel development reached it's peak years back and has been in decline ever since. Especially because important features rely on having a locked down device. Also, one of the reasons people developed custom software is to add more features, many of which are part of the standard package when buying a new phone these days.
If you want flexibility and enjoy the development on XDA then Oneplus are your best choice. They are getting most of the attention now. It's the new Nexus. I'll get an S8 and if I get bored, I'll sell and get the next Oneplus 4 or whatever it'll be called. So I can play.

Get an international, word is the Snapdragons will have locked bootloaders across the board in the same fashion as the Note 7. Time will tell.

kevinchristopherson said:
Well I gave up my lg v20 to go back to the s7 (tmobile). It was an impulse trade. Now I've regretted it because of the lack of development in the areas of roms, themes, locked bootloader, and such. MY question is this, what's your opinion of the s8 and s8+..? Are they going to go down in flames or will there be a resurgence of interest in samsung again?
Your answers will help me decide whether to get one right off the bat or wait for another flagship device that's coming out in the next couple of months.
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Hoping they will be same as S7/S7 Edge in terms of dev support as both S8 and S8+ will run on Exynos Chip Worlwide other than US

I really hope Samsung will offer unlocked phones like LG is offering if you buy direct. I buy my phones so I want to root and keep it as current as possible. Thats the biggest complaint I have on my Note 4 is the way ATT/Samsung update its ridiculous. I mean over a year wait for the last android update for Note 4. I would buy a Stock Android S8 or S8+ and pay a small premium if thats what it took.

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I really hope Samsung will offer unlocked phones like LG is offering if you buy direct. I buy my phones so I want to root and keep it as current as possible. Thats the biggest complaint I have on my Note 4 is the way ATT/Samsung update its ridiculous. I mean over a year wait for the last android update for Note 4. I would buy a Stock Android S8 or S8+ and pay a small premium if thats what it took.
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Samsung has supposedly confirmed this.

jpinks said:
I really hope Samsung will offer unlocked phones like LG is offering if you buy direct. I buy my phones so I want to root and keep it as current as possible. Thats the biggest complaint I have on my Note 4 is the way ATT/Samsung update its ridiculous. I mean over a year wait for the last android update for Note 4. I would buy a Stock Android S8 or S8+ and pay a small premium if thats what it took.
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They already do I bought my S7 Unlocked Edge last year direct from Samsung with the option to upgrade to a unlocked S8 or S8 + this year....

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I really hope Samsung will offer unlocked phones like LG is offering if you buy direct.
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I've looked all over for this, but no luck. Would you give me a link to buy (direct) an unlocked or unlockable G6? Thanks!

I'm still holding out, haven't thrown my s7 away just yet, to get back into the v20. so I'll just keep waiting for the word on the G6 or the s8+ ,, Hopefully something happens and they unlock that boot-loader.

T-Mobile's version of the G6 bootloader is unlocked.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/development/unlock-bootloader-tmo-t3578099

I feel like rooting and ROMing is dead. You have to go through a massive hassle now to even get your hands on a phone that allows it. A real shame.

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T-Mobile's version of the G6 bootloader is unlocked.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/development/unlock-bootloader-tmo-t3578099
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It appears now like the phone may be reporting unlocked but isn't actually unlocking. Too soon to tell on that but it wouldn't be the first time for LG. It's old advice but more relevant by the day, if root is important do not buy in until it's proven.

kevinchristopherson said:
Well I gave up my lg v20 to go back to the s7 (tmobile). It was an impulse trade. Now I've regretted it because of the lack of development in the areas of roms, themes, locked bootloader, and such. MY question is this, what's your opinion of the s8 and s8+..? Are they going to go down in flames or will there be a resurgence of interest in samsung again?
Your answers will help me decide whether to get one right off the bat or wait for another flagship device that's coming out in the next couple of months.
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Easy...just buy a exynos version, no locked BL (at least the note 7 and s7 edge arent locked).
No point in buying snapdragon based sammy products now as it seems they are locking them down.
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