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[INFO] Motorola MotoACTV Root/Rom/Info Thread

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I figured since there is finally a place to post this, I will do so here. There is currently ongoing development for the Motorola MotoACTV smart watch. It began simply as a fitness watch, but has evolved with root, recovery, and roms into the best android watch available.
AND IT CAME OUT IN NOVEMBER OF 2011.
Interesting, yes? Let me get you some details from our current wiki (http://motoactv.wikispaces.com/home, started from the members right here on xda):
Code:
Hardware Specs:
Processor: 600MHz OMAP3 (3630) ARMv7 CPU supporting ARM architecture:
- thumb, vfp, vfpv3, edsp & neon. (overclockable to 1Ghz currently)
256MB of RAM and 8GB of NAND Flash Memory (Or 16 GB)
Wifi 802.11B/G/N
Bluetooth 4.0 (low-power mode)
ANT+ for connectivity to fitness sensors (heart rate, etc.)
FM Tuner (with Radio Data System for station & song identification)
PowerVR GPU
1.6" 220x176 capacitive multitouch LCD display
5 hardware buttons on the side:
- (Start, Music, Volume +, Volume -, Standby/Power)
1 additional capacitive button on the front for 'back button'.
Ambient light sensor
White charging and notification LEDs
Accelerometer
GPS
So now that you're intrigued, let me give you some resources to get you started!
Main XDA Thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1399692
Root Tool and Image Flasher:
MAKE SURE YOU CHARGE TO 100% BEFORE DOING ANY OF THIS!!!
http://www.cleardroidroms.com/motoactv.php
I MEAN IT!!! CHARGE TO 100% BEFORE DOING ANY FLASHING!!!
Overclocking:
Dproldan's Overclock - Easy windows installer in this post
Roms:
ClearDroid MotoACTV
DPRom for MotoACTV
ReACTV Rom
RunKeeperACTV for MotoACTV
FreeFly ROM
CEnnis91's stock roms/AnyRoot
Custom Watch Faces:
Custom Watch Faces Thread
Bluetooth PAN Tethering Instructions (Internet via Bluetooth from Phone to Watch)
Saeviomage's Tutorial
MotoACTV TCX Exporter:
SuperDave's MotoACTV TCX data exporter thread
Known working apps
Known working apps thread
IF YOU DIDN'T LISTEN AND ARE NOW "LOW BATTERY" AND CANNOT FLASH:
First thing's first. It will probably still charge on the wall charger or a car charger. Try that first. But, if it won't...
(or if you're just an avid flasher,) I'd also recommend you get one of these to help you out of jams: Motorola Factory Cable. The one at that link from Team Black Hat is typically out of stock, but a search of the words "Motorola Factory Fastboot Cable" on eBay can get you one for between $5-8. This cable does not charge your unit and does not come with the MotoACTV.
Any questions? Please post below. And GET YOUR ACTV ON!

Re: Motorola MotoACTV
What's the cost?
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Re: Motorola MotoACTV
Mine brand new when they first came out was $249 for the 8g, but substantially lower now, I'm sure.
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I just bought one as well but it still cost me $240 on amazon.

Re: Motorola MotoACTV
eBay is always good.
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Update: just checked, they're going for $50-200 on ebay, lots are on there for sale.
Also, I will be updating the first post of this thread with any info/links that you guys need. We would love for more development of this device, since we've been doing it for months/years now.

Wow this seems great! Youtube and a browser. I recently bought myself the Sony Smart Watch, and I was not too impressed with the battery life time, how is this ones?
I also managed to ruin my SmartWatch, but I'm gonna get it refunded from the store I'll probably get this from eBay! Is there any bugs/problems I should know about from the Motorola watch?

I get mine tomorrow, and my only concern/question is how well this handles Bluetooth tethering. I use FoxFi and PDAnet with phone and tablet and i'm hoping I can use the same with the motoactv.

Jakmalmo said:
Wow this seems great! Youtube and a browser. I recently bought myself the Sony Smart Watch, and I was not too impressed with the battery life time, how is this ones?
I also managed to ruin my SmartWatch, but I'm gonna get it refunded from the store I'll probably get this from eBay! Is there any bugs/problems I should know about from the Motorola watch?
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Not really. Battery life for me is around a week, sometimes more if I turn it off at night. I don't leave bluetooth or wifi on unless I need them though, and keep the brightness around half. I also turned off the shake-to-wake feature, as my watch was turning on when I was just walking around and using up battery life with the screen on lol.
But, for such a tiny battery, a week is pretty good in my opinion. Either way, you can just charge it every night if you're a heavy user. Keep in mind, this isn't like those other "smart watches" that only issue notifications, this is a full blown android device.
Joescan said:
I get mine tomorrow, and my only concern/question is how well this handles Bluetooth tethering. I use FoxFi and PDAnet with phone and tablet and i'm hoping I can use the same with the motoactv.
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I know Nook Tether works on it for bluetooth tethering (internet pass through) I believe, but I'm not sure about the others. I've heard of PDAnet also, it might have been another that worked. I don't tether mine though, so I'm not sure.
The only thing I want different is the watch strap, and an XDA user is actually working on a better one right now. I can't wait!

Not really. Battery life for me is around a week, sometimes more if I turn it off at night. I don't leave bluetooth or wifi on unless I need them though, and keep the brightness around half. I also turned off the shake-to-wake feature, as my watch was turning on when I was just walking around and using up battery life with the screen on lol.
But, for such a tiny battery, a week is pretty good in my opinion. Either way, you can just charge it every night if you're a heavy user. Keep in mind, this isn't like those other "smart watches" that only issue notifications, this is a full blown android device.
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I'm leading an auction on eBay at the moment. The "Buy Now" alternatives is too expensive with shipping to Norway :/
A week battery time sounds good to me I had to charge my SmartWatch every day, and that wasn't a problem.
How's the Firefox browser and YouTube app working on the watch?

Jakmalmo said:
I'm leading an auction on eBay at the moment. The "Buy Now" alternatives is too expensive with shipping to Norway :/
A week battery time sounds good to me I had to charge my SmartWatch every day, and that wasn't a problem.
How's the Firefox browser and YouTube app working on the watch?
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Youtube works great, not sure about Firefox though. I think some people used Boat browser or something and had fine results with it.

Is there a way to keep the display on to use as a watch, without pushing a button? How much space does the OS use? Is Ebay prefer over Amazon for purchase?

ronaldheld said:
Is there a way to keep the display on to use as a watch, without pushing a button? How much space does the OS use? Is Ebay prefer over Amazon for purchase?
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It has shake to wake, where you shake your wrist and the display turns on. The os doesn't use much, maybe 200mb or something. I've got the 8 gig version and have plenty of space, even with roms. However, the space for installing apps is limited for the time being. I'm not sure, but there might be a way to partition the space on the device to get more app space.
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I was unaware of the shake to awaken. I will go for the 8 Gb unit when I get the funds. More reading needs to be done to see which ROM may be the best for me. How hard is it for someone to generate a customized ROM without extensive training?

ronaldheld said:
I was unaware of the shake to awaken. I will go for the 8 Gb unit when I get the funds. More reading needs to be done to see which ROM may be the best for me. How hard is it for someone to generate a customized ROM without extensive training?
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The hardest part is the script lol. Making one work is not easy. I've been working on roms for years now and this is the most finicky device I've ever seen.
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I will have to pass on this activity fir now. Does any ROM support an audible alarm and customized time date screen?

It doesn't have a built in speaker. I'm sure you can get the alarm to show on the screen though?
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That could be a problem I was thinking of using the alarm in the morning and when needed. Off to see one at VZW today.
The store did not have any, demo or for sale.

ronaldheld said:
That could be a problem I was thinking of using the alarm in the morning and when needed. Off to see one at VZW today.
The store did not have any, demo or for sale.
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Cool! Let us know what you think! Of course, the one you see won't be rooted or have a regular android launcher on it yet.

I have decided to buy one, preferably at less than ~$250. I would prefer new versus used since they are discontinued and i am uncertain about warrantee. Maybe i can afford to order one next week. No doubt I will have questions, if rooting does not go smoothly.

ronaldheld said:
I have decided to buy one, preferably at less than ~$250. I would prefer new versus used since they are discontinued and i am uncertain about warrantee. Maybe i can afford to order one next week. No doubt I will have questions, if rooting does not go smoothly.
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Just make sure it's charged to 100% before you start, and use the root tool with a windows machine. It should be easy as pie.

Lenovo Lynx K3011 Owners Thread

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The Lenovo Lynx is not exactly a hot-selling item worldwide, and so naturally there is not much discussion on this Windows 8 tablet on these or other forums.
There are however a few threads on XDA about one or other issue relating to the Lynx, so I thought of creating a thread where all of us could come together and share problems, solutions and tips.
I'll start off with some useful links:
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USER GUIDE
HARDWARE MAINTENANCE MANUAL
You should already have done the free upgrade to Windows 8.1 (if it didn't come preinstalled) For those who did not do the upgrade, here are a few useful links after you do the upgrade from the Windows store.
Intel Video driver for Windows 8.1 (32-bit) - IdeaTab Lynx K3011
Total Driver Package for Windows 8.1 (32-bit) - IdeaTab Lync K3011
And here is how to get into the Lenovo Lynx Bootmenu/BIOS Setup:​
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it is too old product

cgigate said:
it is too old product
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It's not that old... January 2013 release date
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I've had mine about 3 weeks and I'm starting to notice a screen burn effect around the edges of the screen. Particularly after using an app with a lot of white.
Anybody else have that issue?

mattman86 said:
It's not that old... January 2013 release date
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I've had mine about 3 weeks and I'm starting to notice a screen burn effect around the edges of the screen. Particularly after using an app with a lot of white.
Anybody else have that issue?
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Tested my unit, can't find any screen burn or bleeding. Have you tried updating your video driver? Does the display have any other problems (jagged lines while switching apps, screen going blank, 'Video driver stopped working and has recovered' message popups etc?
I did have that last problem after I upgraded to 8.1, but it seems to have resolved itself after a Windows Update.

itsnotmeatall said:
Tested my unit, can't find any screen burn or bleeding. Have you tried updating your video driver? Does the display have any other problems (jagged lines while switching apps, screen going blank, 'Video driver stopped working and has recovered' message popups etc?
I did have that last problem after I upgraded to 8.1, but it seems to have resolved itself after a Windows Update.
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I actually have tried 4 different versions of the display driver. I've used 1099, 1177, 1160, and 1130. 1130 is the only one that doesn't give me the "driver stopped working" message. What driver version are you using? And could you list what Windows updates you have installed?
No jagged lines at all. No blank screen.

mattman86 said:
I actually have tried 4 different versions of the display driver. I've used 1099, 1177, 1160, and 1130. 1130 is the only one that doesn't give me the "driver stopped working" message. What driver version are you using? And could you list what Windows updates you have installed?
No jagged lines at all. No blank screen.
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I'm on 1177.
All updates available are installed.
(Image shows only windows updates, not office updates)

I ordered a Refurb from Newegg for $239 yesterday, it should be here by Friday, I'm really looking forward to turning it on for the first time.
I love Android but only on my phone, Never liked it on tablets.. was always left disappointed.
I searched for awhile and couldn't find a dock for it, the only place I found was on amazon and it's "Currently unavailable".
I was hoping to find one on ebay for a decent price, I might go with a Bluetooth Keyboard + Leather Case from ebay.

skuly said:
I ordered a Refurb from Newegg for $239 yesterday, it should be here by Friday, I'm really looking forward to turning it on for the first time.
I love Android but only on my phone, Never liked it on tablets.. was always left disappointed.
I searched for awhile and couldn't find a dock for it, the only place I found was on amazon and it's "Currently unavailable".
I was hoping to find one on ebay for a decent price, I might go with a Bluetooth Keyboard + Leather Case from ebay.
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Congrats on your purchase. If I were you I would try and find the lynx dock for it... you get an additional battery (it adds 4-5 hours easy) two full-size USB ports, and a trackpad (trackpad is kinda jumpy, though), and you can easily work with the docked tablet in your lap, or tilt the screen at any angle you like.
Getting a keyboard folio won't have all these conveniences.
Do let us know all your impressions of your new tablet.

itsnotmeatall said:
Congrats on your purchase. If I were you I would try and find the lynx dock for it... you get an additional battery (it adds 4-5 hours easy) two full-size USB ports, and a trackpad (trackpad is kinda jumpy, though), and you can easily work with the docked tablet in your lap, or tilt the screen at any angle you like.
Getting a keyboard folio won't have all these conveniences.
Do let us know all your impressions of your new tablet.
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I usually can find almost anything i search for, it's crazy that i can't find the freaking dock for the lynx.
I might have to just get the BT Keyboard and a 12000mAh External Battery Pack.

Is anyone having issue with xbmc when watching video? It plays the video however I can't see the video because of grey overlay on video. Anyone having similar experience with xbmc? I don't have such issue with vlc player.

shah_vm said:
Is anyone having issue with xbmc when watching video? It plays the video however I can't see the video because of grey overlay on video. Anyone having similar experience with xbmc? I don't have such issue with vlc player.
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Try turning hardware acceleration/ DXVA to 'off'

itsnotmeatall said:
Try turning hardware acceleration/ DXVA to 'off'
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thank you very much that worked for me. how is aamchi mumbai?

shah_vm said:
thank you very much that worked for me. how is aamchi mumbai?
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Glad it worked for you.
Mumbai's cool.

I just installed a 64gb SD card. It works ok.
And I question. My biggest problem with Lenovo lynx in win 8.1 is still the same: I want to do some things with the screen off. But every time I shut the screen off everything stops. Any help on this? Thanks.

sosimple said:
I just installed a 64gb SD card. It works ok.
And I question. My biggest problem with Lenovo lynx in win 8.1 is still the same: I want to do some things with the screen off. But every time I shut the screen off everything stops. Any help on this? Thanks.
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Have you tried this:
Go to Control Panel>Power Options>Change Advanced Power Settings and change value for Turn off Display = After 1 min.
Check if after that 1 min, does only the display go off or the PC goes to sleep?
Also change the values for Lid close action = Do nothing

itsnotmeatall said:
Have you tried this:
Go to Control Panel>Power Options>Change Advanced Power Settings and change value for Turn off Display = After 1 min.
Check if after that 1 min, does only the display go off or the PC goes to sleep?
Also change the values for Lid close action = Do nothing
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Yes. Nothing of those settings works if cpu is clovertrail. Always go to sleep.
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I love this tablet, newegg sent me one with a broken left speaker though, and I am trying to get it replaced, but seems like it will be a hassle.
My messages to newegg on ebay so far ...
Dear *****,
Thank you for contacting Newegg. We apologize for the delay in response time due to the enormous order volume from Black Friday, Cyber Monday and Holiday's. We answer emails in the order that they are received. If your inquiry has already been resolved, please do not reply to this email. If you have sent us multiple inquires and we have already replied, please only respond to us one time. Thank you for your patience and understanding.
I apologize to hear this, and would be glad to assist you with your return. This is a non-refundable item, so I will be able to help you return this item and have a replacement order sent out. I just need a little more information first. 1. Do you still have the original packaging and any accessory that was originally included? 2. Can you please give a detailed reason for the return?
Please let us know if you have any further questions or concerns. We'll be more than glad to assist you. Until then, thank you for contacting Newegg. Have an EGGcellent day!
Christine Z.
- newegg
My response...
Dear newegg,
I upgraded the tablet to windows 8.1...other than that the tablet is in the same condition I received it in.
I have the boxes it came in and I have the charger that doesn't seem to work with the tablet
- *****
Newegg's response..
Dear *****,
Thank you for contacting Newegg. We apologize for the delay in response time due to the enormous order volume from Black Friday, Cyber Monday and Holiday's. We answer emails in the order that they are received. If your inquiry has already been resolved, please do not reply to this email. If you have sent us multiple inquires and we have already replied, please only respond to us one time. Thank you for your patience and understanding.
Please kindly note that all the items must be returned in the original 100% entirety, including all original packages and accessories, or the RMA would be denied. Could you please confirm if you still have the original system? Thank you for your understanding.
Please let us know if you have any further questions or concerns. We'll be more than glad to assist you. Until then, thank you for contacting Newegg. Have an EGGcellent day!
Christine Z.
- newegg
My response
Dear newegg,
As i said ...
"I upgraded the tablet to windows 8.1...other than that the tablet is in the same condition I received it in.
I have the boxes it came in and I have the charger that doesn't seem to work with the tablet"
I do not understand your statement "original system", what are you referring to?
- *****
I hope they aren't trying to say i can't RMA because i upgraded it to 8.1 before i realized the **** had a broken speaker and defective charger.
But if i can't RMA, hopefully it's just the speaker that is broken and not the board, maybe if i could find a replacement speaker I'd just replace the broken speaker myself. But i get the sense that even with both speakers working the sound on this tablet will still be low, and i've read as much

sosimple said:
Yes. Nothing of those settings works if cpu is clovertrail. Always go to sleep.
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I think the only option is to use metro apps. From reports on other forums it seems as if metro apps can keep clovertrail tabs awake even when the display is off, but legacy windows apps cannot. So if whatever you are doing (downloading, rendering, transferring etc) can be done with a metro app from windows store, that could be a solution.
skuly said:
I love this tablet, newegg sent me one with a broken left speaker though, and I am trying to get it replaced, but seems like it will be a hassle.
I hope they aren't trying to say i can't RMA because i upgraded it to 8.1 before i realized the **** had a broken speaker and defective charger.
But if i can't RMA, hopefully it's just the speaker that is broken and not the board, maybe if i could find a replacement speaker I'd just replace the broken speaker myself. But i get the sense that even with both speakers working the sound on this tablet will still be low, and i've read as much
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I don't think having upgraded to 8.1 should be a problem. It is after all an official upgrade of the preinstalled OS.
Here in India, when I called up the service station with a battery problem (my dock battery was not working) the customer care guys kept trying to tell me to 'take the battery out and put it back in!'
The Lynx is such a rare item that none of those customer service execs had been trained for it!
I eventually had to visit a service station personally to get the dock battery replaced (when that did not fix the problem they replaced the circuit board as well).
But you should get them to replace the speaker and charger. Like in my case, the problem could be with the board.

I am not going to rma it over the broken speaker, Pay to ship it back to them and probably wait a month to get the replacement.. and the sound probably will still be low.
From the reviews i read the sound isn't that loud or good even with both speakers.
Newegg really sucks, it's been years since i bought anything from newegg but i never had problems like this with them before. I feel like i'm talking to a chat bot or something, actually a chat bot probably would be better to deal with.

skuly said:
I am not going to rma it over the broken speaker, Pay to ship it back to them and probably wait a month to get the replacement.. and the sound probably will still be low.
From the reviews i read the sound isn't that loud or good even with both speakers.
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You're right. Well, if you are planning to replace the speakers yourself, do post a detailed WIP here so we can all benefit. You might have to get the actual speakers from some other device and somehow get them to fit in the slots inside the Lynx.
Though since you're looking for a bluetooth keyboard anyway, you can get one which has built-in speakers.
Or even something like this:

GV08 Smartwatch for $33.00 USD

I know that the search for a smartwatch is prominent for most, and the GV08 is nothing "new" in tech terms. I found a seller on eBay pushing them out for $33.00 shipped.
See here:
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=151414401692&alt=web
This is a Galaxy Gear 2 clone, and i bought one (just to tie me over until I get the G Watch R for Christmas ). It's a nifty little device with pretty awesome features and an unbeatable price tag!
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Now, I've done my research and wanted to answer some questions for potential buyers:
1. Does it run Android Wear?
No it doesn't. It uses an OS called Necleus RTOS (OS used by Pebble Smarwatches and the Omate TrueSmart Series watches from what I've read) that is more so a single app with multiple functions than an independent OS with interoperable core system processes, etc. (Pretty much the opposite of Android).
2. Can we port AW to it?
No, it only has 128MB of ram and a 360Mhz processor, which doesn't meet AW requirements
3. What does this have that the (insert AW watch name here) doesn't?
Well from my readings, despite RTOS being simple, it can function completely as it's own entity, unlike AW. This watch has a SIM card slot, microSD card slot, pedometer, music player, browser, etc. Etc. With the same "premium" build as gear watches. Though it doesn't have wear, it has a lot to offer, and it pairs seemlessly with Android for texts and phone calls and stuff.
4. Drawbacks?
Obviously, no Android Wear (dead horse officially beaten). Also, because RTOS is sort of like an app, I haven't seen any app offerings for watch faces and stuff, so there's very limited add ons outside of what is already present.
5. Did I miss anything?
Now because it's from China and I'm in the States, I'm looking at a 2+ week shipping time. But I ordered at like 1 in the morning central time Saturday and they shipped it by 3 A.M. CST. I'll be back in the future with a little review of the watch to help potential buyers. Hopefully it's still this cheap by then lol!
Are you gonna buy it?

mingolianbeef said:
I know that the search for a smartwatch is prominent for most, and the GV08 is nothing "new" in tech terms. I found a seller on eBay pushing them out for $33.00 shipped.
See here:
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=151414401692&alt=web
Are you gonna buy it?
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Thanks, a good find . . . no Wifi?

simple1i said:
Thanks, a good find . . . no Wifi?
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Sadly no but hey like I said for $33.00 if all I'm missing is AW and WiFi then I'll take it lol. I think that's what they put they SIM card slot for though

Stupid question:
Do this watches keep time? Without a smartphone connected?

TKG26 said:
Stupid question:
Do this watches keep time? Without a smartphone connected?
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Lol yes to my knowledge

TKG26 said:
Stupid question:
Do this watches keep time? Without a smartphone connected?
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The time is synced with data and wifi, same as phones.
When there's no data/wifi or the watch is in Airplane mode then the accuracy is off by seconds. Over time the inaccuracies build up.
If you don't have data or don't bluetooth it you can always adjust the time manually.

Support
Is there any support for this watch what so ever?, cant find a website for it, or any downloads firmware updates ?

jrvenge said:
Is there any support for this watch what so ever?, cant find a website for it, or any downloads firmware updates ?
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Been searching for over 8 months, for upgrades, how to remove shortcuts, how to reprogram this little gem, developer codes, but no luck yet.
But other than that, this watch works GREAT with my Galaxy 5.
BTW ordered a " 1.5Inch ZGPAX S8 Smart Watch MTK6572 Dual Core Smartphone Android 4.4 WIFI GPS", witch DOES run android 4.4
and is almost the same look as the GV08.

where have you ordered your "1.5Inch ZGPAX S8 Smart Watch MTK6572 Dual Core Smartphone Android 4.4 WIFI GPS"?
Do you know if it is possible to connect the GV08 with a bluetooth speaker/headphone?
So you can play the music on the inside microSD on an external bluetooth speaker?

Has anyone bought this smartwatch? Because I have a problem and don't know how to solve it. It's not a big deal, it's just that I can't edit the shortcuts on the tools screen. Can anyone help me?

Texting from watch to phone via BT
Sorry to bump this almost a year old post. I just wanted to ask to those of you who have used it already, can it send a text message without the SIM Card? I mean you received it on your android phone, it pushes to the watch and you can reply straight from the watch.
Hoping someone will answer, thanks!

I bought one too
I have one and the QR code for the BT Notifications app on the watch does not work on Android higher than 4.4. Smart Wear works with 5.0 and 5.1, just upgraded my S5. I screwed up and got into the shower with the watch on. It went dead, I opened it up all the way to the screen and dried it out. It works fine, but make sure you reconnect all the wires. Its a great watch for the price, I paid $58, wish I would have seen your post before I bought mine. http://cdn3.xda-developers.com/images/smilies/smile.gif
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I know that the search for a smartwatch is prominent for most, and the GV08 is nothing "new" in tech terms. I found a seller on eBay pushing them out for $33.00 shipped.
See here:
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=151414401692&alt=web
This is a Galaxy Gear 2 clone, and i bought one (just to tie me over until I get the G Watch R for Christmas ). It's a nifty little device with pretty awesome features and an unbeatable price tag!
Now, I've done my research and wanted to answer some questions for potential buyers:
1. Does it run Android Wear?
No it doesn't. It uses an OS called Necleus RTOS (OS used by Pebble Smarwatches and the Omate TrueSmart Series watches from what I've read) that is more so a single app with multiple functions than an independent OS with interoperable core system processes, etc. (Pretty much the opposite of Android).
2. Can we port AW to it?
No, it only has 128MB of ram and a 360Mhz processor, which doesn't meet AW requirements
3. What does this have that the (insert AW watch name here) doesn't?
Well from my readings, despite RTOS being simple, it can function completely as it's own entity, unlike AW. This watch has a SIM card slot, microSD card slot, pedometer, music player, browser, etc. Etc. With the same "premium" build as gear watches. Though it doesn't have wear, it has a lot to offer, and it pairs seemlessly with Android for texts and phone calls and stuff.
4. Drawbacks?
Obviously, no Android Wear (dead horse officially beaten). Also, because RTOS is sort of like an app, I haven't seen any app offerings for watch faces and stuff, so there's very limited add ons outside of what is already present.
5. Did I miss anything?
Now because it's from China and I'm in the States, I'm looking at a 2+ week shipping time. But I ordered at like 1 in the morning central time Saturday and they shipped it by 3 A.M. CST. I'll be back in the future with a little review of the watch to help potential buyers. Hopefully it's still this cheap by then lol!
Are you gonna buy it?
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I can't edit the shortcuts on the tools screen.
left_gangster said:
Has anyone bought this smartwatch? Because I have a problem and don't know how to solve it. It's not a big deal, it's just that I can't edit the shortcuts on the tools screen. Can anyone help me?
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I have the same GV08S from ebay in Germany. The seller was ibeautypro.
This Smartwatch crashes, when i made settings in the Shortcutmanager. I can't enable or disable Menuentries. The Smartwatch make a reboot. No changes in the Shortcutmanager available.
In Engineer-Mode: *#3646633# show this Information:
[Version] L99_HW_V1.3_V04
[Branch]: 11BW1308MP L99
BUILD: BUILD-NO
SERIAL#:
[BUILD TIME] 2015/06/24 15:38
[MRE VERSION] 3100
HAL_VERNO:
MOTION_SENSOR: BM A250_I2C
TOUCH_PANEL: CTP_HSIMOBILE_MRE55_DEMO_BB_FT6206
CAMER: GC0329
[IMEI] my IMEI-Number
When i made a Backup, the Smartwatch does not reconice in Flashtool. No Readback from 0x00000000 to 0x01000000 available.
I think this Smartwatch is a full **** Product. Normal we can make a backup of the Original-Firmware.
sincelery.

bassemolufda said:
I have the same GV08S from ebay in Germany. The seller was ibeautypro.
This Smartwatch crashes, when i made settings in the Shortcutmanager. I can't enable or disable Menuentries. The Smartwatch make a reboot. No changes in the Shortcutmanager available.
In Engineer-Mode: *#3646633# show this Information: .....
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Mine does not enter the engineer-mode. Also it does not crash when entering the shortcut manager. Maybe it is because I have the GV08 (not GV08s) I don't know but still you seem like a person who dug this through. We should look for another watch that does support something like changing firmware, like the AN1 maybe, which has normal Android built in rather than Android Wear or some unknown OS.

left_gangster said:
We should look for another watch that does support something like changing firmware, like the AN1 maybe, which has normal Android built in rather than Android Wear or some unknown OS.
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Yes the AN1 is a good Solution. Support SD-Card and more Features also GPS.
Thank you for your suggestion.

Not IP67 - European version Unova Ironman 320x320, 1GB/8GB, 4.4 Android

European version Unova Ironman 320x320, 1GB/8GB, 4.4 Android
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Not IP67 as stated by Umeox Mobile. The watch is completely dead.
I've had the 320x320 resolution watch for a few weeks, here are my issues:
1. As a potential sports watch I was taken aback by the bulky size and steel body weight of 121g. I'm not sure if it’s practical for sports, the sheer weight might damage or loosen the strap with time if you run a lot with it.
2. The top button did not have a same clicking feel as the bottom button.
3. I can see the glue around the side camera. see photo.
4. The charging socket is heavy, it does not stick well magnetically while charging, if you move the watch its easily comes apart. You have to hold the charger against the watch if you want to use the watch while charging.
5. Difficult to open the back cover to insert an SD card and its not recommended by Unova.
6. The OS need rooting to get to the deeper settings; most of the settings are hidden/locked.
7. Google Maps keeps crashing with location is turned on ...keeps doing it.
8. The sensors are only useful if there are apps for it.
9. With Wi-Fi and Bluetooth on battery it went from 97% to 70% in one hour, but it was on the first charge.
10. Speaker is below average, not too loud; I would depend on it as an alarm.
*** UPDATES: ***
1. AliExpress seller, $199.80 + low shipping (EU 320x320 models only) please confirm with him first.

simple1i said:
European version Unova Ironman 320x320, 1GB/8GB, 4.4 Android
** European Version only - US version will be available once Unova gets 500 orders **
Unova Ironman 320x320 resolution, 1GB RAM, 8GB ROM, IP67.
Available in grey, orange, yellow, (black available soon, ask Unova when you order)
Available directly from Unova for $200 + shipping, using Paypal. Ask them for the cheapest tracked shipping, to UK they offered me $30 shipping. :good:
Please DM (Direct Message) me for the contact email. I can't post it here. If you order its between you and them, please check your transaction carefully.
Also available on AliExpress for $299 including postage.
Specs...
320x 320 resolution. 1GB RAM, 8GB ROM, IP67.
Dimensions: 55*47*15mm
5.0MP side camera
Android 4.4
Sensors: Proximity/G-Sensor/Gyroscope/Accelerometer 6-axis/E-Compass (optional)
... see the Unova website for full specifications.
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does it have 3.5 mm jack ?
and usb port?
how do you heard music?
does it have fm radio?

hackerse7en said:
does it have 3.5 mm jack ?
and usb port?
how do you heard music?
does it have fm radio?
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I don't have the watch yet, unsure about the FM radio, the rest are all 'no'.

does it have 3.5 mm jack ? no
and usb port? sort of - the charging adaptor is a usb connector to connect to PC
how do you heard music? through the built in speaker or Bluetooth headphone/speaker/etc
does it have fm radio? no

CPGOD said:
does it have 3.5 mm jack ? no
and usb port? sort of - the charging adaptor is a usb connector to connect to PC
how do you heard music? through the built in speaker or Bluetooth headphone/speaker/etc
does it have fm radio? no
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Do you have the 320x320 res' model?

CPGOD said:
does it have 3.5 mm jack ? no
and usb port? sort of - the charging adaptor is a usb connector to connect to PC
how do you heard music? through the built in speaker or Bluetooth headphone/speaker/etc
does it have fm radio? no
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Do you have the 320x320 res model?
Does anyone else have this model?

simple1i said:
Do you have the 320x320 res' model?
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no -160 - but the form factor is the same.

Anyone here who has this watch in use on a daily basis? I am thinking about buying this watch. So any opinions on this product here? I am wondering if you can flash a custom rum such as cyanogenmod on it?

I got this with the idea to use it as a running watch, It arrived on Wednesdays but I had to go away for a few days so only had a few hours to play with it.
I got back this afternoon and have had another few hours with it.
So here are my initial impressions.
First of all it is very big and quite heavy at 120 grams.
The screen is very good and the icons of your applications are quite clear, however with certain apps like endomondo, runkeeper and micoach when you open the app the screen either doesn't show all of the information or squashes it.
Other apps such as Facebook and YouTube etc. all work well.
I am disappointed that there is no SD Card slot because I thought that it was going to have one. After I e-mailed Unova I have been informed that there is an SD card slot but you have to take the back of the watch to reach it. In their words "we don't allow end users to open and install themselves."
I won't be using the watch as a phone and do not have a Micro sim card to test it.
The WiFi and GPS seem to function well with Endomondo and Runkeeper both getting a GPS signal in my apartment quite quickly. I haven't tested it outside yet.
The biggest problem I have is that the watch does not recognize my BT heart rate monitor. I have to use a separate app to find it which is okay but Adidas micoach won't connect and neither will Endomondo the two apps that I would have used.
Runkeeper and Wahoo fitness both do find the heart rate monitor though I haven't yet tried it running.
I haven't done a battery test yet.
Overall I am not entirely unhappy with the watch but neither am I blown away by it.
I paid $250 with shipping to France which compared to any of the Android wear watches makes it quite good value with added functionality and certainly when you compare it to some of the more specific GPS sport watches which can run up to $400+.
I have also been told that it is not very water proof so if you do decide to take the plunge be careful getting it wet.

Too Big!
Thanks Gah73 for your detailed answer. The biggest problem i see, and you said it also, in those china smartwatches (or you should better say smartphones) is the fact, that the thickness of this devices is just too high! I saw a screenshot which compared other smartwatches with the Unova Ironman and the Unova is just huge and doesn't look sexy at all (however, the hardware in it is quite sexy though ). I think i will wait for other devices which could replace a smartphone functionality wise but are not bigger then 12 mm.
@Gah73
It would be really great if you could post some photos of the watch (from the sides, from top, from the active display)!

Having spent a few more days with the watch I have to say it is growing on me.
The thickness doesn't bother me so much but the weight is very noticeable.
I have a Sony Smartwatch 3 coming this week and I will choose between them.
I will take some photos of them together but it won't be until the weekend.
I have a feeling that I will be keeping the ironman due to the limitations of the Sony.

Gah73 said:
Having spent a few more days with the watch I have to say it is growing on me.
The thickness doesn't bother me so much but the weight is very noticeable.
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Thank you for posting your experience. I am thinking about getting this for my wife to use when she runs. She doesn't like having to carry her phone with her.
- Is the speaker loud enough to listen to music when you run? (I suspect not)
- Have you tried pairing it with bluetooth running earphones?
- Is there any chance you could install "C25K Couch to 5K by RunDouble" and see if it is usable? (I realize that is a big request, but that is the app my wife uses and there is no point in me getting the watch if it doesn't work). I really wish there was a way to test apps on a small screen to see if they would work without having to get the device first.
It seems like if xposed works on this watch the DPI could probably be changed so that most apps could be made to work.
Thanks again for posting - it really helps those of us who are looking!

RunDouble
The speaker is surprisingingly loud but probably not loud enough to listen to music whilst running.
I have had no problem connecting BT headphones, I use Jabra sport and also have some Plantronics headphones and a Plantronics headset.
I installed the app and it worked well, I connected headphones and a BT heart rate monitor, they both worked.
An advert took up some of the screen but it was very usable I think.
I had previously changed the font size from large to small because when it was large some apps did not fit the screen very well. With it set to small the apps fit better but writing is harder to read.

Thank you very much for your answer,
i am really looking forward to some detailed photos :good:
Maybe you have some answers for my questions:
Can you switch between some different launchers?
Is it possible to root this device and install custom roms on it?
Can you install normal Google Play Store apps?

I haven't tried any different launchers.
The software is pretty good on the phone already.
There is a specific watch launcher on the play store.
You can install all apps on the phone but they might not size very well.
I couldn't log into Google music as I couldn't select my account.
I don't know of any custom ROMs for it, I read that the adidas running watch is based on Android so that would be good if it could be flashed.
Unova have an app that you can install on your phone and then you receive notifications on your watch. That works quite well.

Okay, thanks for your answers. You are really helping me on choosing the right smartwatch
Can you shoot some photos of the watch from different angles (side, top, bottom etc.)? The images on aliexpress are actually meaningless.

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Gah73 said:
The speaker is surprisingingly loud but probably not loud enough to listen to music whilst running.
I have had no problem connecting BT headphones, I use Jabra sport and also have some Plantronics headphones and a Plantronics headset.
I installed the app and it worked well, I connected headphones and a BT heart rate monitor, they both worked.
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Thanks - this is great information. I went ahead and ordered one - hopefully she'll like it.
Is this the same device with different branding: http://forum.xda-developers.com/omate-truesmart/general/poll-umeox-x202-kk4-4-320x320-ip68-t2882896

I think Unova is a brand name for Umeox.

SW_Tech said:
Okay, thanks for your answers. You are really helping me on choosing the right smartwatch
Can you shoot some photos of the watch from different angles (side, top, bottom etc.)? The images on aliexpress are actually meaningless.
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Here are some photos.

Issues
Gah73 said:
Here are some photos.
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Thanks G. I'll let you write the good points
For those still deciding, please post number 1 for issues.

Ticwatch S&E - what is your opinion & More information

Hi guys,
The Ticwatch S&E powered by Android Wear 2.0 will be releasing soon.
What do you guys think of these new watches?
Link to the Kickstarter page: http://kck.st/2h2OqGj
Personally I have good faith in the watch because it is produced by a company that has been founded by ex-Googlers and has been supported by Google.
Pro's:
- OLED Display.
- Cheap.
- With the E model you can swap the watch band.
Cons:
- No NFC.
- Plastic instead of metal..
- With the S model you can't swap the watch band
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I bought the TicWatch2 and the support have terrible, so I don't trust the company.

Harboe said:
I bought the TicWatch2 and the support have terrible, so I don't trust the company.
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That's a shame I hope they'll do a better job with this watch

S&E model will use Android wear 2.0 instead of ticwear OS.
For Android user is better than iOS user.

Hi there, i will not buy this watch, because of having the ticwatch 2 onyx black since 1 year. It is running without problems and I use it every day. Iam happy with it. The only advantage of the new one is Andoidwear2, but not more. I hope they will port it on my ticwatch 2 Have a nice day...

Mtk is a killer for many. It is a deal breaker.

Kinda sad how no one is able to top the original Huawei Watch. It came out in September 2015!

I've first backed for the TicWatch S on Kickstarter but witthdrawn my pledge as IP67 is really not enough for me, I was really excited about the TiWact S when first heard of it, but the lack of a proper Water Proofing (not water resist) made go for the Nixon MIssion, of course it's a far more expensive watch but it also is tougher.

thklinge said:
Kinda sad how no one is able to top the original Huawei Watch. It came out in September 2015!
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i think the lg u2 tops all. and its also from 2015 (ok last rev. 2016)

I just received the Ticwatch E, I backed it on Kickstarter. Honestly, I just wanted to be able to change watch faces whenever I felt like it and it was only $99.00. If you have questions I'll try to answer them.

I just got mine and I love it a ton. It's exactly what I want, which is notifications on my wrist, and Google Assistant in my wrist. I'm already missing a lot less notifications. It's also charging quite fast! Two hours for a full charge at most.

I got mine delivered yesterday (S Model). So far I like it! I have a Moto 360 Gen2 so it's not a huge upgrade but it's more responsive and yes it seems to charge really fast.

wyrmbyte said:
I just received the Ticwatch E, I backed it on Kickstarter. Honestly, I just wanted to be able to change watch faces whenever I felt like it and it was only $99.00. If you have questions I'll try to answer them.
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Just got mine a few days ago - I will say this - it's worth the $

Hi I have also just received them and I found them to perfectly fit my needs.
I have one question however hoping to find positive answer. As you might know, there is NFC chip on the watch as well, however is disabled thanks to some Android Wear security rules. Do you think there will be a way how to enable the NFC chip?
Having working NFC on the watch would be really nice bonus.

Ticwatch S impressions
I got my Ticwatch S on Thursday last week and I am mostly disappointed with the watch. My main complaints are:
1. The wakeup gesture doesn't work reliably. Most of the time it doesn't detect my wrist gesture and stays dark. Sometimes it needs around a second to detect it and to lit up.
2. The battery life is horrible. It hardly lasts more than a day, sometimes even less.
3. The OK Google command is not working very well. You need either to talk very close to the microphone or try couple of times to make it working. In general I think this is a problem of the microphone, because it doesn't work reliably in other applications as well
4. The watch is not very legible exposed to direct sunlight and it lacks automatic brightness which makes it extra bright during the night and not very bright during the day.
5. There is a rainbow effect around the screen edges, which is a bit annoying
6. I think also that the watch is a bit bulky and a bit on the heavy side, also the strap is made of rubber so your wrist sweats a lot during exercises.
And last but not least the Ticwatch forum is complete garbage. I tried to post two threads regarding my initial impressions and a question about how to switch from Fahrenheit to Celsius in the forum and they never showed up there, which means that the admins didn't approve them! So my advice is not to buy any Mobvoi product!

Ticwatch E compass ???
wyrmbyte said:
I just received the Ticwatch E, I backed it on Kickstarter. Honestly, I just wanted to be able to change watch faces whenever I felt like it and it was only $99.00. If you have questions I'll try to answer them.
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Have you been able to find and use the E-compass supposed to be built in the watch??
I can't find any compass app in the watch and any I've installed from Play don't work (either with location turned off or on). GPS works well, but compass seems dead or absent?
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Vojta1 said:
Hi I have also just received them and I found them to perfectly fit my needs.
I have one question however hoping to find positive answer. As you might know, there is NFC chip on the watch as well, however is disabled thanks to some Android Wear security rules. Do you think there will be a way how to enable the NFC chip?
Having working NFC on the watch would be really nice bonus.
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Hi, don't know your source of information, but to the best of my knowledge Ticwatch S & E use a Mediatek CPU that has no NFC and there is no other NFC built into the watch.
I'll be overjoyed to be proved wrong of course!!

gstoyanov said:
2. The battery life is horrible. It hardly lasts more than a day, sometimes even less.
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^this!!! I also have the S model.
I am truly much more satisfied with my two year old Fossil Q Founder 1st Generation. There is also a lot of trouble with Google Fit. The values are all over the place. I sent several tickets to the support and haven't received any answers, just a note that the message has been received.
So far a bad expereince. And I thought OnePLus has terrible customer service...

Dito13 said:
^this!!! I also have the S model.
I am truly much more satisfied with my two year old Fossil Q Founder 1st Generation. There is also a lot of trouble with Google Fit. The values are all over the place. I sent several tickets to the support and haven't received any answers, just a note that the message has been received.
So far a bad expereince. And I thought OnePLus has terrible customer service...
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What really drives me crazy about this Ticwatch is that my two threads didn't even appear in their forum. I got a message that they have to be approved by the admin beforehand and then disappeared. I guess they are even censoring their own forum. After couple of days of use with the watch I can report that the battery is lasting not more than 24 hours with very little usage. This is far from the advertised 2 full days. Usually if I track an exercise I need to re-charge it more often.

It would be interesting if someone would find a way to gain root access on this smartwatch. I can confirm that there is NFC and that it is not enabled because the processor doesn't support android pay, but in Chinese version NFC is enabled.

I was a super early bird backer of the S model on the Kickstarter campaign. So far my experiences seem atypical:
1. Got my tracking number and received my watch with no real issues.
2. Battery life for me seems pretty good. As I'm writing this, I am at 30hrs of use with 25% charge left. I have both bluetooth and wifi on, display set at 4 (is that 75%?) , OK Google detection is ON, Always on display is OFF.
3. Wake up gesture is ok, not as laggy as what I have read from others. I'd say it wakes about 90% pf the time.
4. Google Assistant detection only seems to work when screen is on, but i think that is how its supposed to be right? It recognizes the OK Google prompt, pretty well for me, however, I have been told by many many people that I am a loud talker.
Overall, I'm digging it, and am pretty happy with what I got from a $119 investment.