Hi there,
I just got my Honor 7 from vmall, and i dont know if the camera quality is what I expected.
Until now I have been using a nexus 4, that have a very poor quality camera, so i expected that nowadays devices would have a much better quality. I feel honor camera is quite bad, but I cannot compare with other 2014-2015 phones.
For instance, wich famous terminal have similar quality camera? Lg g3? S4? S5? Iphone 5?
Im considering get back my money and try to find another phone with the budget even the only things Im worried about with Honor 7 is camera, lack of NFC, and roms community.
I wait for your opinions!!
Regards,
Can you post some samples
The camera on the Honor 7 is very good, but not the best. You will only get a better camera on a couple of other phones. Perhaps you are expecting too much, in what way is the camera bad?
Here, photo from my Galaxy S6:
http://i.imgur.com/mw2hK6t.jpg
versus honor 7:
http://i.imgur.com/ZrV2rjl.jpg
You do know that it is set to 10 mp default and settling it to 15 mp will get you a lot more detail? 20 mp is 3:4 and not realy usable as in most phone cameras with the highest res.
I think it is a very good camera, but I will boost saturation by 1, same as with the P8.
Yes, I am aware
You may as well use 20MP and crop because that's all the 15MP mode does. At least then you may decide not to crop and get more detail.
I agree with the OP, I feel the image quality is quite poor (lack of sharpness and more than normal image noise)considering its meant to have a decent camera. I came from a HTC ONE M8 and i thought that was a bad camera, but that one seems to produce better quality pictures than the Honor 7. Does anyone think it could be a software (firmware) bug as many users are saying that their picture quality is very good.
In good light, it's fine. It also seems to get the exposure settings right in low light but then saves a really grainy photo that looks terrible under close scrutiny.
I'm sure the algorithms can be tweaked, but I'm still waiting for any update. Still on B100!
Totally agree with your description.
Motorola style and sony experia has the same sensor, i hope we could port their app.
Slow motion camera is also really bad...
Also there is so many people with chinese versions, thats why i would like to try in european version, but i dont know how to do it, is there some help about how to try safely chinese rom on european device?
Well, considering this is a phone which only cost me 209 GBP (less than EUR 300) I really think the camera is excellent. Very fast focus and quite good picture quality.
Comparing it to a S6 is in my opinion the same as comparing a Casio watch to a Breitling.
BTW I also have a Z1 Compact which I believe has the same sensor and I can´t see much of a difference.
i know it only cost £209 for most people, but the camera is supposed to be a good one. many people are reporting that they are getting very good quality pictures and some, including myself, report that the pictures saved are very grainy, therefore im hoping that its a firmware/software issue. I have updated the phone to the latest b121 firmware and can confirm that the camera picture quality is still noisy.
Yes, I've updated too and I Think that The camera is not a 20mpx...it's too noise.
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iberni said:
Yes, I've updated too and I Think that The camera is not a 20mpx...it's too noise.
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Well, considering the side affect of high mpx is usually more noise...
iberni said:
Yes, I've updated too and I Think that The camera is not a 20mpx...it's too noise.
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There can, in my opinion, be little doubt that the camera in the Honor 7 is the Sony IMX230 f/2.0 aperture 6-lens module. This module has a 20 mpx sensor.
Is it possible they use diferent sensors?
Samsung did it in s5 I think
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Yes, I've updated too and I Think that The camera is not a 20mpx...it's too noise.
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Just, none of that makes any sense.
Picture quality is fine. In fact, it's better than I expected really.
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Well, quite strange,
In my opinion camera isn't good as honor and some people say. I think our perception isn't same. For me, quality is lower then g3 lg and samsumg s5 for instance. I know the price isn't high, but that's not the point, for me is about is the quality is good as they say as that's what buyers take to make their decision for buy it.
Regards,
If the noise bothers you reduce resolution in the settings. I find the camera acceptabel though not as good as the P8 (13 mpx!) as this one has OIS.
What res do the s5 and g3 have?
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The point is not about resolution, as that parameter is linked with the megapixels at sensor.
I about image quality. That is my concern.
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I will be extremely disappointed if huawei uses the same camera that's in the mate s, especially when the huawei 7 has a 21mp currently.I don't care if the phone ends up costing only $500. I currently have a note 5 and the camera is amazing.
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So more MP means better picture quality to you? I would prefer 5MP over 21MP if the Sensor handles it right.
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I will be extremely disappointed if huawei uses the same camera that's in the mate s, especially when the huawei 7 has a 21mp currently.I don't care if the phone ends up costing only $500. I currently have a note 5 and the camera is amazing.
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Note 5 camera could be better in low light with neon, mixed light condition. The detail loss somewhere contrast are too strong!
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So more MP means better picture quality to you? I would prefer 5MP over 21MP if the Sensor handles it right.
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MP count doesn't
equate to picture quality, but it does impact some odd the Dunne details especially when you blow the picture up. I have an A7r & A7rII so I'm very familiar with the dos and don'ts of photography.
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Right now the note 5 arguably has the best camera of any smart phone including the 6s.. Bottom line the nexus phones have always had crappy cameras including the nexus 6 which had an 13mp camera. The new nexus should at least match current technology which is a 16mp with f1.9 or a 21mp f2.0.. Having a 12mp is going backwards and it's probably that crappy camera in the already released, old huawei mate s
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Don't care thaaat much about how many MP's a camera got. I'll go for quality instead of highest MP any day.
I like a good camera but its low on the 6P spec list for my usage.
On one hand I'd like to see a perfect sensor for 4k video (that should be 12MP no a 4:3 sensor), if possible 4k HDR video, but that should require too much power for a 21MP sensor.. on the other hand the 21MP should give more detail in good light conditions.. so all we want is the best camera on a phone to date (hardware and software wise
wish it would come with the g4 camera. omg that is the best phone camera i have ever seen. too bad i liked nothing else on the g4 lol
I take a lot of pictures of my kids, I can't always carry my high end cameras. I need something of quality
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12MP is fine as long as the post processing is done correctly.
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I take a lot of pictures of my kids, I can't always carry my high end cameras. I need something of quality
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It all depends on how they process the images, I dunt expect it to be on par with my DSLR but it will certainly be better than my Nexus 6 is now.
I got mixed feelings about the nexus phone this year. May be because I no longer have crazy desire to flash new roms. Mostly try to stay as stock as possible. Even batteries have got bigger, so I find no need for custom kernels either. Camera will not be top of the line, screen I am not sure what quality it has... also when I see that Huawei is the one making the phone, I freak out. We got Google which is best information collection source for U.S and Huawei which serves Chinese government. 2 red flags
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couldnt care less about smartphone cameras, if you want decent pictures, use a decent camera! in my case, that would be a sony DSC-RX100
and HECK YES, so gonna buy that gorgeous 6P, cant wait for tomorrow!
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couldnt care less about smartphone cameras, if you want decent pictures, use a decent camera! in my case, that would be a sony DSC-RX100
and HECK YES, so gonna buy that gorgeous 6P, cant wait for tomorrow!
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In my case is canon 60D but who wants to go around with a 10lb camera hanging on his neck 24/7?
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Using a 19 or 21mp camera won't necessarily improve your pictures.. by your logic, the iPhone 6S's 12mp/f2.2 camera is last generation too.. yet it consistently takes some of the best pics around
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Using a 19 or 21mp camera won't necessarily improve your pictures.. by your logic, the iPhone 6S's 12mp/f2.2 camera is last generation too.. yet it consistently takes some of the best pics around
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Good luck taking best quality pictures with a 12mp camera without OIS buddy.
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I mentioned nothing about having OIS
not having OIS really makes me consider walking away... I'm going to order a 64gb as soon as they go on sale tomorrow, but I'm sure they won't ship them until October which gives me time to cancel.... I can move pass the 12mp and lack of wireless charging, but really no OIS...
same thing, i'll pre-order it tomorrow and wait for the camera's feedback of the Z5P
I've heard too many negative reviews about the camera and that it can be a deal breaker..so which camera is better iphone 6's camera or the axon 7's camera?
Bought the phone because previous one was stolen few days before I went traveling in China. Been more than happy with the pictures it takes. Panorama is cool too. It struggled with low light, but it improving noticably with every update.
Uploaded a few pics from a national park in China for you. You be the judge. All pics were made with auto mode.
https://apexalpha.stackstorage.com/index.php/s/NZeWb0ifRNf02aM
I have to say though. The iPhone costs $300 more. If you care so much go for the Galaxy S7 for camera (and Android)
Actually not that bad
I remember hearing tons of negative reviews on the camera and being worried that it wasn't going to be that good but after using the phone for about a week I can honestly say the camera is pretty good. It does struggle a bit in low light, though but that's simply because of the amount of megapixels. In my opinion, some reviewers are just a bit picky
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I've heard too many negative reviews about the camera and that it can be a deal breaker..so which camera is better iphone 6's camera or the axon 7's camera?
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I'm coming from a Nexus 6P and the Axon 7 camera just doesn't compare, especially in low light. The 6P had a great camera. That being said, since B27 came out things have improved noticeably and while the camera still isn't ad good as the 6P, it's more usable now and does produce decent enough shots in low and pretty good ones in good light.
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Low light scenes are very challenging for the camera. ZTE really need to improve the HDR processing, where it can't touch 2015's Nexus phones and where it trails the much cheaper Honor 7.
There's not much sun where I am and I'm really noticing the difference.
You can certainly get better-looking results by playing with white balance in manual mode but that won't help you if you want to snap a darker foreground without blowing out all the background detail - a trick the Nexus phones' HDR+ excels at. I know they are deadly slow but I'd be happy to put up with much longer exposure times if it meant better pictures.
Could you please provide some selfie snaps as I'm kindda of a selfie guy?
Also I currently have the iPhone 5 so if the axon's camera is worse than the iphone 5 I might go with the oneplus 3 even though I hate its 1080p screen
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Could you please provide some selfie snaps as I'm kindda of a selfie guy?
Also I currently have the iPhone 5 so if the axon's camera is worse than the iphone 5 I might go with the oneplus 3 even though I hate its 1080p screen
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There's such thing as a sefie guy?
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There's such thing as a sefie guy?
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At least where I live?
Could someone Post some selfies?
What do you think about that? Is that really important? My hands are very shaky tough, I have a z1 compact now, and I can't really get clear photos at night.
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What do you think about that? Is that really important? My hands are very shaky tough, I have a z1 compact now, and I can't really get clear photos at night.
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I have the original MI 5 and now I can't imagine life without OIS....
Night pictures are significantly better, video shooting, when held by hand is better, and overall photo blurriness is lower.
However the dual cameras have some advantages too, like on the huawei P9, but as seen on the redmi pro, xiaomi hasn't done much to make the second camera count...
The MI 5s is a better phone than the MI5 as hardware goes, but imho the dual camera setup is just a gimmick for now
Why would they omitt ois on the regular 5s? So the mi5 had it?
Mi5 regular has it yes
Are you 100% sure, the normal 5s (not the 5s plus) lacks OIS?
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Are you 100% sure, the normal 5s (not the 5s plus) lacks OIS?
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Let's just say 99.9% :crying:
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Are you 100% sure, the normal 5s (not the 5s plus) lacks OIS?
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100% no OIS
It have electronic image stabilization like the google pixel: http://en.miui.com/thread-376042-1-1.html
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...but imho the dual camera setup is just a gimmick for now
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I wouldn't completely agree on this. The combination of colour and BW sensor produces better night time photos, as BW sensor is much more sensitive and when combined with colour info from the other sensor it can produce a better overall image in challenging lighting conditions. If they've implemented photo app as they should, results should actually be better.
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It have electronic image stabilization like the google pixel
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What's interesting is that Google Pixel with the same IMX378 (without OIS) competes with the iPhone 7, thanks to its software engine. I am thinking... it could be possible to import their engine to mi5S? It's something like camera app related or deeper?
If you want good 4k video it's a deal breaker. I have the Mi5S and made a comparison against a S6 Edge+
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Su6ldDSR47o
Your video is very impressive !! I had almost bought it and now I don't know what to do ! Maybe the Axon 7 ...
Thank you !!
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Your video is very impressive !! I had almost bought it and now I don't know what to do ! Maybe the Axon 7 ...
Thank you !!
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Comparing it side to side one sees the difference, but looking at just MI5S it seems good just as well. I wouldn't worry too much. 5s uses Sony's sensor. A very good one.
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It depends if you make video in 4k or 2k. In 2k you have electrical image stabilizer (EIS) working, which is a help. In 4k you don't have it though. For photos it's also disabled.
As the Mi 5s (currently) runs on android 6 and the google Pixel on 7.1, there is no chance to port to image engine at the moment. Only time will tell if that changes in the future.
This is a deal breaker for me.
I really thought I found the perfect phone.
But seeing how shaky videos are, IDK what to do now...
In my country, the 5s is about 350e, it's new, not many are selling it yet.
But the 5 is about 260-280e and there are a few sellers.
I love the 1080p 120fps, but the lack of OIS on the 5s is killing me.
Should I get the regular Mi 5?
Should I just swallow the fact that the 5s doesn't have OIS?
I hear it's EIS but only for 1080p and only for video.
I've seen photos, I'm confident I won't mind in that area, but the 4k OIS, or lack of...
Do you guys think I'm making this too much of a problem when it's really not?
I was searching for the perfect phone that was also not too expensive. That doesn't charge for the name.
This is really making me sad... Almost had it.
Do you even have something that can play and display 4k videos? I don't, so I don't make any 4k videos in any case.
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Do you even have something that can play and display 4k videos? I don't, so I don't make any 4k videos in any case.
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I do...
LG 4k OLED.
I paid big money for it. Would hate to see shaky video on such a nice TV.
Imagine sitting down with someone, watching videos from travelling or something, and seeing how shaky your phone camera is...
When I spend big money on electronics, I expect them to provide good quality.
However, I dislike spending money on brand name. That's why I don't want to spend x2 more on a phone by Samsung, or similar.
Xiaomi is 1 of those brands that doesn't really make you pay for the name.
My TV is different, since, when I bought it, it was 1 of a kind. Truly outstanding quality. OLED was exclusive to LG.
Also, my monitor is 4k.
That's why this is a deal breaker for me. The lack of OIS on Mi 5s.
And that's why I'm really torn apart, whether to get the Mi 5. It's older phone, but the CPU isn't that big of a difference. It's like 5% difference on energy savings.
However, the bigger pixel size, looks to be good and photos are better, even without OIS and even in low light, on the Mi 5s.
Still don't know what to do.
I anyway wouldn't film with my mobile, for that I have a camera which also has built in zoom function But I know what you mean.
The Mi 5 is also a good phone, also it's only a bit older than 7 months, which is still very new. You might want to check out the new Oneplus 3T or Meizu phones, maybe they have an OIS.
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Do you even have something that can play and display 4k videos? I don't, so I don't make any 4k videos in any case.
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I feel the same, I'm happy with 2K EIS.
Maybe a clever Dev will find a way to unlock EIS on 4K, it sounds very possible.
I feel many people are waiting for the grey version to become available again, once they have shipped we should see more development for this device.
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What's interesting is that Google Pixel with the same IMX378 (without OIS) competes with the iPhone 7, thanks to its software engine. I am thinking... it could be possible to import their engine to mi5S? It's something like camera app related or deeper?
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That would be awesome. Google Pixel's estabilization is incredible.
https://m.heise.de/ct/artikel/OnePlus-5T-Keine-Zoom-Kamera-mehr-3887487.html
Heise.de is one very serious german tech site and they say that since other sites already broke the NDA they dont feel obliged to hold information back.
To make it short: camera does not get better, low light performance gets even worse.
Long version: The camera setup (still WITHOUT OIS!) will be 16+20 mp again BUT the 20 mp sensor this time won't work as telephoto lens. Also aperture changes from f/2.6 to also f/1.7 like the 16 mp main snapper. Pixel size of the 20 mp sensor stays at 1.0 um. This sensor will, despite its crazily small pixel size, automatically work as low light shooter when light levels drop below 3.5 lux, making pictures look even worse than with the 16 mp sensor.
The Software does NOT use both sensors to combine the picture information like it is the case for other phones. Thus, picture quality does not seem to improve compared to the OP 5.
My comment: This really doesnt seem to make any sense. Why not put in a sensor with bigger pixels if you want a lowlight specific unit? Why take one with even smaller pixels? Wtf!? Did they have too many of those crappy 20mp sensor left over? Or why not at least use both sensors to combine the two die pics? Or why not just use the fabulous sensor that the s8/pixel2 uses and put an OIS in it? This is so stupid oneplus, i just dont get it..
Furthermore: Usb will again be 2.0.
2015 all over again..
Also, unlike the introductionary text of this forum suggests, battery will be the same as the OP5, 3300 mah. Thus, endurance will be lower compared to the 5.
And the device will also feature face recognition to unlock.
What do you think?
This is kinda disappointing. I was kinda missing my OnePlus 5 going to the pixel 2xl because I really loved the feel and everything on the o5. I was also thinking I should have waited on the 5t and hope they made some small improvements to the camera. This seems like a bit if a downgrade. Battery life will still be really good but slightly worse. I don't see why they couldn't have fitted in a slightly larger battery
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Finally got my new glasses and can check all of the new great features With these phones. It has been a while since I bought a smart phoneBut the one plus is something that I there are just way too expensive.
I wonder if it possible cross-device ROMs between OnePlus 5 & 5T.
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I wonder if it possible cross-device ROMs between OnePlus 5 & 5T.
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I think it will be possible. Since the changes are similar like 3 and 3t. Lets see
yeah, for me the missing ois is a deal breaker. I planned to upgrade from my op3t but now i will keep it. Hopefully they will learn from it and add a camera with ois for the 6
GSMArena have some shots in their hands-on here.
If you zoom in and look at what it's done to the foliage in the first 2 shots you might wish you hadn't. This would be considered poor in a low-light shot, never mind outdoor daylight. I just hope that this is pre-pre-production software that they stupidly gave to a reviewer and not what they are planning on selling.
Maybe anybody has a acutal review of the camera of the Oppo R11s?
It should have the same camera configuration and software "magic".
Results should be an indication for the possible camera performance of the OP5T.
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GSMArena have some shots in their hands-on here.
If you zoom in and look at what it's done to the foliage in the first 2 shots you might wish you hadn't. This would be considered poor in a low-light shot, never mind outdoor daylight. I just hope that this is pre-pre-production software that they stupidly gave to a reviewer and not what they are planning on selling.
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Interesting. GSMarena comments on the lowlight pictures:
"We also went out for some night shots around the usual locations. We won't be passing any verdicts just yet, but the results look promising."
When they said the second camera would have f1.7 aperture (without probably mentioning the pixel size) I thought they would do something special to combine the result of both cameras and create nice pictures. I didn't expect that they only would use one of them....
OnePlus clearly doesn't know much about software photography, but they know a lot about marketing...
Furthermore: Usb will again be 2.0.
2015 all over again..
Seriously brah?
Also, unlike the introductionary text of this forum suggests, battery will be the same as the OP5, 3300 mah. Thus, endurance will be lower compared to the 5.
And the device will also feature face recognition to unlock.
What do you think?
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Well, the screen says 6.0 VS 5.5 But it's taller but thinner side to side. The total screen area should be the same or very close. I doubt enough to affect battery in any significant way. It's also a newer panel, so possibly more efficient than the old 5.5 which was a carryover from the previous OP.
The screen is not narrower but a lot longer so the real estate is quite bigger.
Its 136x68mm vs 122x68mm.
A few sites have mentioned the camera is a bit lackluster, but until we can get a good comparison between the 5 and 5T I'm not sure how to take these comments.
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Camera will be more powerfull if you install Google camera.
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Camera will be more powerfull if you install Google camera.
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i feel so too, on the op5 the difference is huge in low light conditions with the hdr+
Unfortunately there isnt a port that works properly. Either no touch to focus or other drawbacks
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Unfortunately there isnt a port that works properly. Either no touch to focus or other drawbacks
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And the microdots. It was too much of a hack for something I need to be reliable at least IMO.
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https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...ding-combination-of-specs-design-and-price/2/
https://m.gsmarena.com/oneplus_5t-review-1687p8.php
mario toys on arstech and low light comparison on gsm
5t looks better than 5 there
FridrufHau said:
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https://m.gsmarena.com/oneplus_5t-review-1687p8.php
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It is still producing oil paintings in daylight though.
Mind boggling that this is still not fixed! The sensor is capable to produce better photos but the processing...
https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/op5T-2.jpg
This issue is soo old by now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbn9Lj6F6EM
Someone needs to tell OnePlus that a little noise doesn't hurt as long as the photos come out sharp!
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This issue is soo old by now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbn9Lj6F6EM
Someone needs to tell OnePlus that a little noise doesn't hurt as long as the photos come out sharp!
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Ok so moving is never sharp, although with other camera apps?
Hi everyone.
I'm looking for a new phone that could be solid and valuable for everyday use, but I have a budget limit of 250 $. I'll certainly buy a top of the line device later but, since my needs are really basic, I prefer to have a cheaper phone along this period, and change it without too many worries once I'll have the chance.
The Mi A1 seems really promising, but I also read mixed thoughts about it. I mainly use the phone for social apps, light gaming and I like to do a lot of photos, but always intended for social use. I'll try to summarize all my doubts:
1) the update plan: A1 is an Android One device. Can I expect a reasonable amount of updates compared to other phones or other devices by Xiaomi with Miui? I'd really hate to buy a phone that will be "dead" (under the updates point of view) soon.
2) Camera: as I said before, I use the camera a lot. I read that A1 allows to take good photos for its price range. The only cons is the quality of the camera under low-light conditions. Beside this, does it have a good camera? Are its limits solvable with updates or are they hardware limits?
3) Front Camera: is it good? I watched some tests, and I noticed it can make good selfies, but I'd like some other feedbacks. Is the front camera good, even if it only is a 5 mp?
So, the final question: do you recommend this phone according to my budget? Are there better phones around with better camera and performance?
As far as I know, A1 is a best buy, since it's difficult to reach the same overall quality price ratio at that price. Other phones on the same price range have better cameras, but worse performances, or they won't get updates anymore. I'd like some other feedbacks before deciding.
Thanks in advance!
as from experience, value for money, YES the MiA1 provide that kan of leverage.. and without NFC though... just to keep that in mind
the front facing camera with 5MP sensor is horrible.. and the rear facing ones, in outdoor light it is great but in low light it doesn't count much in sattisfaction
BUT for the camera purpose, you could root the device with magisk then sideload GCam HDR+ for a better an awesome results :victory: the hardware has many potential, but the software side it's provided by xiaomi themselves and until this day no software update is present..
wait for this years release of phones including note 5, moto g6 play etc. They will have better processor, oreo out of the box( meaning they will have Project Treble). Even with Snapdragon 630 you will get bluetooth 5.0.
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wait for this years release of phones including note 5, moto g6 play etc. They will have better processor, oreo out of the box( meaning they will have Project Treble). Even with Snapdragon 630 you will get bluetooth 5.0.
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the front facing camera with 5MP sensor is horrible.. and the rear facing ones, in outdoor light it is great but in low light it doesn't count much in sattisfaction
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That's a really bad news, since the front camera is one of my priorities I was sure it was good, the quality of the shots I found online was more than average :crying:
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wait for this years release of phones including note 5, moto g6 play etc. They will have better processor, oreo out of the box( meaning they will have Project Treble). Even with Snapdragon 630 you will get bluetooth 5.0.
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That's a really good advice. Thanks. I guess I have to find a really cheap phone that allows me to survive until some interesting devices come out.
Heisenbear said:
That's a really bad news, since the front camera is one of my priorities I was sure it was good, the quality of the shots I found online was more than average :crying:
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well it might be good..
but if you wanted the best quality in front facing camera I guess you have to look elsewhere and streching your budget a bit to strive fort that quality.. at least a minimal of 8 MP or above for the front camera
and if you still wanted the MiA1, you could side load GCam HDR+ after rooting it... and another one, Portrait cam if I'm not mistaken.. on the hardware side it's plausable, but then on the software side xiaomi hasn't publish any cam app update (yet)
wawing_b said:
well it might be good..
but if you wanted the best quality in front facing camera I guess you have to look elsewhere and streching your budget a bit to strive fort that quality.. at least a minimal of 8 MP or above for the front camera
and if you still wanted the MiA1, you could side load GCam HDR+ after rooting it... and another one, Portrait cam if I'm not mistaken.. on the hardware side it's plausable, but then on the software side xiaomi hasn't publish any cam app update (yet)
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I know, a 8 mp camera would be a sensible improvement, but my low budget limit is due to the fact that it will be only a temporary device, until the moment I'll buy a top-of-the-line smartphone later.
I just need a reliable phone for this period, capable of doing almost everything in an acceptable way.
This explains my question. Is the front camera so horrible? I was pretty satisfied with my iphone 5 front camera, which is only a 1,2 MP. I doubt the shots of a 2017 phone could be worse than those ones
It's not so much the MP that really matters, it's the processing and the sensor. In good lighting, the front camera is not bad. In lower lighting, it makes everyone look like a wax figure (bad processing + high ISO + heavy noise reduction).
goofball2k said:
It's not so much the MP that really matters, it's the processing and the sensor. In good lighting, the front camera is not bad. In lower lighting, it makes everyone look like a wax figure (bad processing + high ISO + heavy noise reduction).
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That's true. It's undeniable, the pics under low-light conditions are really insufficient. I clearly noticed this watching the various samples around. I could be wrong, but it's a common problem for low budget phones, so there're not many choices within that range of price.
I have another doubt, speaking of xiaomi phones. How is the Xiaomi Redmi Note 4x, compared with A1 or other low budget phones? Could it be a valid alternative?
The camera is a shocker and the android one program a joke. Don't even consider it.
Wait.
Value for money.. Yes.. considering the cost to hardware ratio definitely VFM..
Updates is under Mi.. Dont fall for the android one tag.. Buggy os, poor updates.. Almost 5 months and they couldn't solve the contact linking issue..
Back camera takes good pics in good lighting condition.. Front camera module is same as that of Redmi note 4, i've read.. Only problems most pics don't look natural..
Loudspeakers actually loud.. I can hear ringtones for once..
Havent felt audio is that great.. havent experienced white noise issue..
Batterys good..
The biggest letback of the device is its os.. Very poorly developed.. Lots of bugs.. I've had more than 5 redmi devices.. The software experience was solid.. But here its pathetic & very frustrating.. U often get the feeling u r running a WIP custom rom.. So much potential in the phone & very much wasted.. This is the most frustrating device i have used till date.. So this is one device i won't recommend..
as an owner of mia1 , now i would have bought the new nokia 6 (2018) , xiomi is a total disaster with software, i got mia1 thinking google would take care of the software but that would have been to good to be true
wawing_b said:
as from experience, value for money, yes the mia1 provide that kan of leverage.. And without nfc though... Just to keep that in mind
the front facing camera with 5mp sensor is horrible.. And the rear facing ones, in outdoor light it is great but in low light it doesn't count much in sattisfaction
but for the camera purpose, you could root the device with magisk then sideload gcam hdr+ for a better an awesome results :victory: The hardware has many potential, but the software side it's provided by xiaomi themselves and until this day no software update is present..
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i bought a1 in october and got about 15 updates .
Best choice?
Yes and no.
Some like it some hate it.
I bought it, because it's dirt cheap and has all I need.Clean android(with mi camera and remote), good battery, dual sim, nice design.If you like that and don't want to spend money on pixel, this is a poor man pixel.
If you don't like clean android, it's not for you.
I optimised it, have zero bugs, don't have issues with hissing or screen, or reboots or whatever is reported here.
But others here are reporting that they have bugs.So there might be quality control issues.You can end up with a good unit, or with a bad one.
Bad thing is no kernel source yet, though it's xiaomi, they always delay that for months, but there was a rumour that they will release it till the end of january.We'll see.As a user point of view, not a big deal...but as a developer, it's a crap.
So if you are a developer, it's not for you.
As for updates, they are regular, don't know what others had before, but, just like nexus/pixel line(although it gets updates days after them and it is not on 8.1 yet) it will be covered for 2 years with updates and 3 with security patches.
So...no one can help you with that, but you.If you can, check it in a store, to see if you like it or not.
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