Wireless charging? - Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I think the title says it all.

well id certainly hope so, cant imagine them taking away crucial feature
unless there is something better.... solar? solar + qi?

Metal body, probably no wireless charging.

fraser.dk said:
Metal body, probably no wireless charging.
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Not quite true.
While a metal shield decreases the coupling between the primary and secondary coils, there are now wireless charging methods that work even with a metal-covered device.

Popup-ch said:
Not quite true.
While a metal shield decreases the coupling between the primary and secondary coils, there are now wireless charging methods that work even with a metal-covered device.
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These are not available yet, QI is the mainstream now, and at present QI cannot work with metal in between, may be in the coming years when QUALCOMM gets this right, we'll see them available.

kms108 said:
These are not available yet, QI is the mainstream now, and at present QI cannot work with metal in between, may be in the coming years when QUALCOMM gets this right, we'll see them available.
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There was a rumour (can't find it now) that the 6P would support Rezence, which I believe could work even with a metal-backed phone.
I don't know if that rumour has been confirmed, though.

Aww man. I've just bought a new qi charger too. I'm guessing one of the adapters should work fine though.

I just want the damn thing to work with my Air Dock. This is by far the best mounting solution for a car if you have Qi

Rather than wait for QUALCOMM with wireless charging through metal, I would rather like to see QUALCOMM or A4WP to release their Rezence standard product into the market, they have products available for the past 1-3 years, but none has made them onto the consumer market, I was offered a test sample a few year back, but I rejected it due to the contract associated with the test, I was told that because of certain reasons, that's why it was never allowed to be released on to the consumers market as of today.
Hopefully they can get their stuff out soon.

No Wireless charging..
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...6p-and-5x-wont-have-wireless-charging-either/

I'm losing interest in the new 6p by the day.
Hopefully there will be some wireless adapters available soon for USB type-c.

Not gonna happen - http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...6p-and-5x-wont-have-wireless-charging-either/ which is fine by me I never use it on my current N6

Wireless charging gets my Nexus 6 waaay too hot. Waking up to a smoking phone was the last straw. Goodbye & good riddance to inefficient charging.

It heats up a bit, but not too much. I love the convenience of just putting it down every night.

Cant believe both handsets are not getting wireless charging. I think its great, esp being able to charge your phone in a coffee shop without needing a plug and charger cable!

I use my TYLT charger to read all day in the office while I'm working. I don't understand why the lack of such a great feature. With the USB C addition it might take a while for wireless charging receivers to be available. So glad my current Nexus 6 is awesome enough to be worth keeping. Maybe the MotoX Pure might deserve a second look...
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The reasoning is the device charges faster with USB-C cables is lame.
Go home set my Nexus 6 on my Qi Pad and it charges, do not really care if it charges fast.

Wireless
fraser.dk said:
Wireless charging gets my Nexus 6 waaay too hot. Waking up to a smoking phone was the last straw. Goodbye & good riddance to inefficient charging.
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My Nexus 6 NEVER gets hot while wirelessly charging. Its a great convenience and a big mistake not having this feature on the 6P. This is one of the reasons I cancelled my order for the 6P.
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I agree and I'm keeping my order for me. I've been on M previews since day one daily driving. Once the OTA hits I'll still have a month to test and use this one and if need be I can cancel before they actually ship. If the last releases are any indicator we can probably keep it and sell for a profit. Win win
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dunjamon said:
I'm losing interest in the new 6p by the day.
Hopefully there will be some wireless adapters available soon for USB type-c.
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There will be some wireless adapter soon, but it won't look good, if you want something good, and works similar, consider magnetic charging adapter/cable, they are not wireless.
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[PSA] The OEM Universal Dock Scratches the Back Cover

I just noticed this on my Note. It's not bad and you can't see it unless you look for it but I'd imagine it would get worse over time.
Here's the problem. The Note moves as you're using it in the dock and the stand is hard plastic so it leaves abrasions.
Here's the fix (from Lowe's)
I use the OEM dock and am not seeing any abrasion, yet, but thanks for the tip.
toenail_flicker said:
I use the OEM dock and am not seeing any abrasion, yet, but thanks for the tip.
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I use it also and don't see any but I think I will apply these just to be safe. Thx BH
What is the universal dock capable of other than acting as a stand? How much n where can you buy them from?
I have three of the docks and my Note spends a lot of time in them. That may be why I'm showing more wear than you guys.
I got mine at MacMall for $29.99 all in. Shipping is free and 2-day if you belong to ShopRunner. It's pretty much a stand but it has a 3.5MM out jack to plug speakers in to it. The old docks were made to fit each size tablet and provided better support. The new one also has the Note sitting pretty upright compared to the old one. Demandarin, BB has them in stock in Alexandria for $34.99 if you want to see it first.
http://www.macmall.com/p/Samsung-Te...ing-Stations/product~dpno~9107991~pdp.hdaehde
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung...dels/5596805.p?skuId=5596805&id=1218671142457
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got mine at best buy and also use an HDMI plug which i piggy back to the back of this. I pretty much do all of my charging on it and moovie watching as well as listen to my music. It was about $35 at BB. I think the HDMI was about $22 on amazon. I will look for a link.
I went and got a notebook 'skin'.. those lightly adhesive decoration sheets meant to put on the lid of laptops and netbooks and carefully cut it to match the Note and stuck it on there... mainly because I'd heard so much about the Note's back being 'soft'.
So the dock would only scratch the sticky.
My biggest complaint about the dock is that you can't charge AND sync at the same time. It would have been nice to have a USB connection on this too.
Since no ones mentioned hdmi output in any of these docks, im assuming because there is'nt one, but just incase, does anyone know or own a compatible note dock with hdmi output?
HDMI would have to run through the charging port via a dongle so a charging dock won't do it without an additional adapter. Any other type of dock you can just flip the tab over and use the dongle.
tonyz3 said:
got mine at best buy and also use an HDMI plug which i piggy back to the back of this. I pretty much do all of my charging on it and moovie watching as well as listen to my music. It was about $35 at BB. I think the HDMI was about $22 on amazon. I will look for a link.
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Ok my mistake...the HDMI was $27 at Amazon. Link: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0059UGT1K/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00
and i plug it into the back of the dock above post from Best buy and you can charge while using the HDMI. Infact this dongle will ONLY work if you are charging at the same time....
I've been using the universal dock as a stand for about an hour a day and haven't noticed any scratches, but thanks for posting this! I'll keep an eye on mine. I got the dock at Best Buy (at the time, they were about the only ones locally who had it in stock), because the regular stand I was using didn't accomodate the thin-ness of the Note very well and I was afraid of it landing on the floor one day.
tonyz3 said:
Ok my mistake...the HDMI was $27 at Amazon. Link: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0059UGT1K/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00
and i plug it into the back of the dock above post from Best buy and you can charge while using the HDMI. Infact this dongle will ONLY work if you are charging at the same time....
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It can be used without the dock since it uses the charging port, as it should.

Nexus 4 Wireless Charging Case

Does anyone know if the wireless charging will work with any case on the phone? Or does this feature require no case to function with the charging orb that Google demonstrated in the video.
proxus01 said:
Does anyone know if the wireless charging will work with any case on the phone? Or does this feature require no case to function with the charging orb that Google demonstrated in the video.
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Well it probably depends on the size, but I presume it won't work for most if not all cases, since proximity is pretty key for it, not only for holding it in place (in case of the official accessory) but also for charging.
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Well it probably depends on the size, but I presume it won't work for most if not all cases, since proximity is pretty key for it, not only for holding it in place (in case of the official accessory) but also for charging.
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I figured it probably would not work. I was going to purchase this phone for my gf, but she is very clumsy and absolutely needs a case.
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''I used to be an open-minded person, but my brain kept falling out''
Do you think that a simple TPU case would affect the wireless charging?
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Ngo93 said:
Do you think that a simple TPU case would affect the wireless charging?
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It shouldn't affect the wireless charging of the phone. Something that's multi-layered like the Otterbox Defender might, but that may be more a problem with the case being too thick to allow the magnetic base to hold the phone in place, rather than the charging current not being able to get through. And remember, you can still charge it via the included USB cord and plug (although I'd rather use the wireless charging myself, just because I've never had that on a phone before). :good:
somewhat off topic, but it applies to cases. android beam requires two devices to touch, so will android beam still work even with a case on the phone?
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somewhat off topic, but it applies to cases. android beam requires two devices to touch, so will android beam still work even with a case on the phone?
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yes it does
Ngo93 said:
yes it does
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My Google wallet works fine for payments using nfc and a Seidio surface case.
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It shouldn't affect the wireless charging of the phone. Something that's multi-layered like the Otterbox Defender might, but that may be more a problem with the case being too thick to allow the magnetic base to hold the phone in place, rather than the charging current not being able to get through. And remember, you can still charge it via the included USB cord and plug (although I'd rather use the wireless charging myself, just because I've never had that on a phone before). :good:
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It's not magnets that hold its in place; its just the rubber grip
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My Google wallet works fine for payments using nfc and a Seidio surface case.
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NFC has a further range than wireless charging.
Everyone is saying the magnet will hold it in place...It might not be the case with Google Nexus 4 inductive charging orb. Matías Duarte mentioned how cool it was that you got inductive charging and the rubber on the orb which made the back glass stay put....

Energizer Wiimote Inductive Charger?

Just wondering if anybody has tried, specifically, the Energizer inductive charger for Wii Remotes? It has slots for 2 Wii remotes and uses Qi. I picked one up at Gamestop for $11.99 used ($20 new), and if it does work, this would probably be the cheapest charger out there. Just wanted some feedback to hopefully help others. I'll report back once my phone arrives.
UPDATE - got my phone today and can confirm the Wii "Qi" charger does not seem to work. I will disassemble it over the holidays and see if I can do anything with it, since it is useless now anyway! I note that someone in this thread got it to charge, so I am going to try placing both inductive parts in the centre and see if that does it!
I'm interested in this too..,
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This review says it's QI
http://pineconeattack.com/2010/02/02/wii-energizer-induction-charge-station-review/
I have the four remote version of that pad sitting next to my Wii right now. When Google finally decides to send me my N4 (Play Store status: Complete, order date changed to the 17th, and received BOE) I will test it out and let you know.
Once you get your nexus update please if it does indeed work I'll buy one
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This is interesting. Please update if it works when you receive your Nexus 4.
Any update? Thanks.
I just got my phone today, and have the wiimote charger, but I'm stuck at work for another 2 hours...
When I get home I'll try it out and see how it goes.
Julant80 said:
I just got my phone today, and have the wiimote charger, but I'm stuck at work for another 2 hours...
When I get home I'll try it out and see how it goes.
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Thank you. Please let us know the result.
I just got my phone yesterday too. Very interested if it works.
It didn't seem to work for me. :crying:
I made sure the wiimotes still charged properly on the pad, so I know it's not the pad. The phone definitely stuck to the pad w/ magnets like it's supposed to, but then it just sat there. The pad didn't blink in recognition of a device being present, and no screen-on or charging indication on the phone at all.
So much for using this pre-existing solution for inductive charging!
I'm glad I'm not the only one who tried this. I actually bought one of these to try with my Droid DNA, I plan on getting a Nexus 4 as my second phone (currently a Galaxy Nexus) as soon as I'm able to and I thought this would be great. Good thing is now I got a nice charger for my wii remotes.
I still wonder if there is some kind of simple hack that would make it work.
I didn't think the wiimote charger was Qi. Its more like a power mat which doesn't work either with Qi wireless charging.
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It is Qi, it sould work.
IT WORKS... sort of
So here it is, I found the sweet spot. :victory:
Line it up with the wiimote indention and leave about 1in at the top and about 1/3in at the bottom.
The catch?
It only stays charging while the phone is completely powered off. Leaving the phone on seems to cause it to charge intermittently... to the point that it only slows down the power drain and doesn't really charge it.
This is more than likely going beside my bed as I'm assuming that even with the power off it's going to charge ridiculously slowly.
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Great info. Did you have 'DayDream' mode turned off in display settings? This mode turns on display when charging, uses alot of power and can cause overheating when inductive charging. I am using the Energizer Qi charger and have "DayDream' turned off and it works well. The standard Qi spec has 19v power supply. What are the specs on the Energizer Wii power supply.
Output is 2.8v 480mA. I tried taking it apart and messing with it too - no dice on a decent charge.
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Output is 2.8v 480mA. I tried taking it apart and messing with it too - no dice on a decent charge.
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it needs 5v 1000ma to work correctly.

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I bought one a while back for $50, and let me say, it's something everyone needs....
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My review on this product is basically this.....
This product is amazing in every way it's described. Small, portable, lightweight, lots of energy, and can charge anything.
It comes with 2 ports to charge (can be used at the same time), and 1 port to charge the actual battery.
Can charge my iPhone more than 6 times....I have not been able to test it efficiently, but it works, and it works well!
How to describe this product....
Think of an iPhone 4 in a Otterbox. Now imagine it was a bit longer like an iPhone5. Now imagine that it looks like an iPhone, yet there isn't really a screen, it's just for looks. Now what you do is you put this charger in your pocket with your phone when it's getting low (or in the car, in a bag, purse, whatever), and than you instantly have POWER IN YOUR PANTS.
I've been questioned....why do you have a wire coming out of your pants? How are you charging your phone while walking around? What type of magic is this?
On a more serious note...everyone phone dies...everyone wishes they could charge their phone while moving, and they also wish their phones would never die. This device does that and more.
It's programmed to charge iPhones and Androids faster than normal.
It comes with a ton of connectors to charge tablets, all phones, laptops, and basically anything I can think of.
for $40...it's a steal. Buy it, you'll love it. Thank me Later ♥
My review on Amazon is very basic, and lists the only two flaws I saw....
1) The iPhone connector will unattach itself from the provided cord that comes with the device. I think the same applies for Androids, and tablets. I suggest using the standard cord your device comes with to connect to the external battery.
2) there's a lot of important attachments that come in this very small bag, and all the pieces are very small. None of them are really needed besides the USB cord to charge the battery, but I wouldn't want to lose them, and yet they are so small...I likely will. Wish there was a small zipper in the protective pouch it comes in.
Conclusion:
★★★★★/★★★★★ (A universal product that should be owned by everyone)
Cost: $25-$40...I suggest buying the largest one, simply because it's an amazing deal. I bought it for $50 not too long ago, and it can be a life saver. (Think about the shows where you get lost in the woods, and your phone dies) ^_^
Edit: basically changed my review on amazon to this. Hope that's alright with you guys.
where is the link for this thing or even a name for it to buy? i am not seeing it. sorry if i missed something.
pomtouch said:
where is the link for this thing or even a name for it to buy? i am not seeing it. sorry if i missed something.
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My apologies, I seem to have forgotten to place both! It's made by Anker, or can be found at iAnker.com, or this direct link to Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009USAJCC/ref=cm_cr_ryp_prod_ttl_hst_61
Sorry about that!
Anker user checking in. Love mind, hooks a great charge and is portable enough to carry around.
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Wireless charging issues?

I purchased a charger from a local company here in Australia. We really don't have much option over here as most companies won't ship to here. They tested them out and they worked (I trust the company as I know one of the owners).
Problem is that it mostly only charges to around 88% and peaked out here and stays attempting to charge, but not charging just getting hotter and hotter. So far max was 58deg I think. It has charged to 100% twice only, and I have had them for 2 weeks. These 2 times it perfectly charged to 100,stopped charging and cooled down.. Perfect.
A few others have had issues as well but the suppliers say it works fine for them.
Has anyone had any issues at all like this using wireless charging? We are really trying to get to the bottom of this and trying to figure out if it's a phone issue or a charger issue.
I have tried it with any and all stock and custom roms, both totally clean and with apps installed.
I have attached my battery graphs here in case that helps solve the problem.
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We noticed there was quite a few bad remarks about the lg one on Amazon so thought I would ask here.
So, anyone else have issues with inconsistent wireless charging of nexus 4?
Thanks.
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I'm having the same issues as well with this Wireless Charger I purchased off eBay: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221166419716
For the first 2 weeks it was charging without issue. Charged the phone up to 98/99% and then switched on and off to maintain that charge, and the phone did not get very hot.
For the past few days it has only been able to charge up to 90% and will not go any higher, but the phone gets very hot and stays like that (45C). Plugging the phone into a USB charger gets it up to 100% so it can't be that the battery maximum has been reached.
Would be interested to know what type of Qi Charger you have to see if it's a problem with a certain 'type'.
Mine isn't that one. It's no brand at all. The guys who imported them tell me they tested some, including that you bought and they say that one was intermittent.
I recently purchased http://www.fasttech.com/products/1154/10001946/1142301 and this works perfectly so far... But then it's only been a couple days...
I am putting it down to a hardware revision 10 issue where it is not perfectly qi compliant. The newer ones are supposedly rev 12 which are qi compliant.... And hopefully they work fine with it so I can sell them to my friends who all bought an n4 today (5 at work in a smallish Xray dept)...
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Is this the hardware revision on the phone, or do you mean the rev of the charging device?
As mine evidenced, even if it works perfectly for a while, it could still not be an indication that the qi charging will keep working.
I'll probably just stick with my one until the 'official' one is released. Was a little worried that the temperature staying around 45C for extended periods of time could have a negative effect on the battery or phone components however.
Kind of a necro post but my N4 on the official charger will top out at 88% as well sometimes, then flap between charging and discharging like the phone thinks its full and is trickle charging. If I plug it in and get it to 90%, then go back to the orb, it goes to 100% just fine.
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Double necro but I have this exact same issue and can't seem to get it to work. Anyone figured it out?
Same issue with Nokia DT-900
Nexus 4 charges to 70% and then "trickle charges", turning on and off.
jholl016 said:
Nexus 4 charges to 70% and then "trickle charges", turning on and off.
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After a few months, mine would do the same thing. For some reason the "efficiency" of the N4 charging circuit (inside the phone) became somehow worse.
The DT-900 uses a TI bq500410A chip for control of the charging. If it detects too low of efficiency it will cut off. Luckily it's possible to modify this threshold. By removing the resistor connected to pin 43 of the TI chip it allows it to charge regardless of efficiency. It still has temperature protection so I don't think there is any danger.
http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/slusb96/slusb96.pdf
presslab said:
After a few months, mine would do the same thing. For some reason the "efficiency" of the N4 charging circuit (inside the phone) became somehow worse.
The DT-900 uses a TI bq500410A chip for control of the charging. If it detects too low of efficiency it will cut off. Luckily it's possible to modify this threshold. By removing the resistor connected to pin 43 of the TI chip it allows it to charge regardless of efficiency. It still has temperature protection so I don't think there is any danger.
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Well, that type of mod is waaay over my head, but at least that answers the question. Thanks!
Just to add some information to this thread, I have the new Google Wireless Charger and it does the same thing. It charges to 80% and then just plateaus there, getting quite warm, but not hot, to the touch. Strange.

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