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Ok guys, I know that the audio recording is bad with the poor microphones inside the smartphone, but things go worse with an external mic.
I purchased high quality linear measurement and recording mic - Edutige EIM-003
When I started to record I was blown away with the crystal clear and 100% true audio recordings, but the bass was blown away. It records only mids and highs ?!?!?! Than I tried several other apps for video recordings, even lossless audio recorders. Nothing improved. So I went into pure CM10 Android 4.1.2 and again it was so bad... :crying:
Can you guys help ? :fingers-crossed:
It's a phone, not a professional audio recording device...
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It's a phone, not a professional audio recording device...
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vessk0 said:
Ok guys, I know that the audio recording is bad with the poor microphones inside the smartphone, but things go worse with an external mic.
I purchased high quality linear measurement and recording mic - Edutige EIM-003
When I started to record I was blown away with the crystal clear and 100% true audio recordings, but the bass was blown away. It records only mids and highs ?!?!?! Than I tried several other apps for video recordings, even lossless audio recorders. Nothing improved. So I went into pure CM10 Android 4.1.2 and again it was so bad... :crying:
Can you guys help ? :fingers-crossed:
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I'm using an iRig MIC Cast with a Note I, and it's a huge improvement over the internal mic.
http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/irigmiccast/
They don't mention Android on their website (only iOS stuff) but it works just fine with my GN1.
vessk0 said:
Ok guys, I know that the audio recording is bad with the poor microphones inside the smartphone, but things go worse with an external mic.
I purchased high quality linear measurement and recording mic - Edutige EIM-003
When I started to record I was blown away with the crystal clear and 100% true audio recordings, but the bass was blown away. It records only mids and highs ?!?!?! Than I tried several other apps for video recordings, even lossless audio recorders. Nothing improved. So I went into pure CM10 Android 4.1.2 and again it was so bad... :crying:
Can you guys help ? :fingers-crossed:
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1st off that eim003 is NOT a "high-quality linear measurement mic". high-quality linear measurement mics like those from dpa cost thousands of euros/dollars....heck any decent microphone costs $$$. and this microphone claims to do that for 35 euros?
secondly whenever you see beautiful ultra smooth frequency response graphs....those are just artistic lies. so dont believe any of it. real resonse graphs are really jaggy.
third ...the type of microphone it is....an omni...doesnt hype up the bass in any way. so if the source isnt bassy the recording wont be bassy. typical (non omni) vocal mics have something called proximity effect...iow the closer you hold the mic to the source...the bassier it gets. omni mics do not do this.
fourth it could be that the analog input on the phone is cutting the bass frequencies...because most of the time external mics on phones are meant to record the spoken voice...which shouldnt have bassy frequencies.
fifth it could just be that the speakers youre listening on are bass deficient and coupled with reason #3...well...
keep in mind most pop recordings add in the bass artificially.
sixth...I dont know if the n2 or s3 supports usb mics but that may be a path to try out...because it would bypass the audio path on the phone...and already hit the phone in digital.
hope this sheds some light...
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I'm using an iRig MIC Cast with a Note I, and it's a huge improvement over the internal mic.
http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/irigmiccast/
They don't mention Android on their website (only iOS stuff) but it works just fine with my GN1.
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What do you record with it?
I'm in need of record our band songs and with normal note 2 mic I have a good quality but some distortion on highs (actually battery snare and my singer's voice :/)
FloatingFatMan said:
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Muwhahahaha! :laugh:
distortion = too much gain (this) or overloading the mic capsule (less likely). look for recording software with adjustable gain level. or just move the phone farther away and/or tell the drummer to play softer. (ha!)
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distortion = too much gain (this) or overloading the mic capsule (less likely). look for recording software with adjustable gain level. or just move the phone farther away and/or tell the drummer to play softer. (ha!)
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Yup I know, I tried with other apps but none of them record bass frequencies like the stock app and recuding the gain removes the "color" of the music
Both of the suggestions you gave, sadly, aren't obtainable
as long as you get a clean recording you could add "color" later. even full blown $$$$$$$ mixes don't have that "sound" until they go to mastering (well most of the time). But really it sounds like what you need is multitrack capabilities in a small portable format. Best to invest in something like that instead of trying to make the shoe fit. If would be the next step down the path if you're serious about your music. .. which is sounds like you are.
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as long as you get a clean recording you could add "color" later. even full blown $$$$$$$ mixes don't have that "sound" until they go to mastering (well most of the time). But really it sounds like what you need is multitrack capabilities in a small portable format. Best to invest in something like that instead of trying to make the shoe fit. If would be the next step down the path if you're serious about your music. .. which is sounds like you are.
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Well I'm just trying to get the best sound without having to spend too much money
TMaLuST said:
What do you record with it?
I'm in need of record our band songs and with normal note 2 mic I have a good quality but some distortion on highs (actually battery snare and my singer's voice :/)
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All mics which connect via the headphone/mic TRRS connector have a mono input.
If you're happy with a mono recording of your band, then it may be ok for you
If you need to record using a pro mic with XLR connector, you can have a look at this small preamplifier:
http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/irigpre/
I haven't tried it myself but it should work fine as it connects via the heaphone/mic port.
Does anyone know whether an external USB audio interface connected via an OTG cable works?
This would be the easiest solution to get high-quality recordings
springer.music said:
All mics which connect via the headphone/mic TRRS connector have a mono input.
If you're happy with a mono recording of your band, then it may be ok for you
If you need to record using a pro mic with XLR connector, you can have a look at this small preamplifier:
http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/irigpre/
I haven't tried it myself but it should work fine as it connects via the heaphone/mic port.
Does anyone know whether an external USB audio interface connected via an OTG cable works?
This would be the easiest solution to get high-quality recordings
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Well thanks for the input.
I have an external USB audio interface and it powers up but there is no way I can use it with my note. I think it needs some drivers :/
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^^ This.
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EvoYas said:
^^ This.
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Well this doesn't mean that we can't search a way to improve it
We should have USB audio interface support soon
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=363102&sid=cb542f89bf6342383e9a8ca70521e6a5
This should allow you to connect _any_ microphone via a USB audio interface. Granted the audio interface will probably need to be mains powered.
But, it should also allow you to connect any standard USB mic dirctly via an OTG cable.
I was thinking of buying the iMic, but now that Davy has announced that his USB audio solution is almost complete, I think I will buy a Samson GoMic and use that instead. About the same level of portability, but the quality should be better.
If you don't already use it, you should check out his Audio Evolution app it is the best multi track recorder for Android by a long way.
The best idea might be to get a portable recorder with a couple of condenser mics on it. Then you would bypass the amps and dacs in the phone. You could then plubg the recorder in to the phone through usb host and import the tracks into your editor.
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I admit that the phone is not for this job, but most of the competition records better sound. Beside that look at the impressive Nokia 808 with its Rich Recording crystal clear up to 130+db SPL and doesn't distort bass or etc...
I want to record good HI-FI sound from speakers, Live shows, etc... with low bass, clear mids and high, as like, as the sound is going from the speakers.
Look at this video recorded with Galaxy S2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-Ys9SIJubc
Go to 1:50min and you will hear the impressive bass recorded.
Anyway, type in YouTube "EIM-003" and check the amazing acoustic recordings with this tiny mic. So YES, I think the problem is in our phones, unless I have fake mic...
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I admit that the phone is not for this job, but most of the competition records better sound. Beside that look at the impressive Nokia 808 with its Rich Recording crystal clear up to 130+db SPL and doesn't distort bass or etc...
I want to record good HI-FI sound from speakers, Live shows, etc... with low bass, clear mids and high, as like, as the sound is going from the speakers.
Look at this video recorded with Galaxy S2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-Ys9SIJubc
Go to 1:50min and you will hear the impressive bass recorded.
Anyway, type in YouTube "EIM-003" and check the amazing acoustic recordings with this tiny mic. So YES, I think the problem is in our phones, unless I have fake mic...
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not to be a downer but i went ahead and listened to the youtube link and a few other eim003 review videos...and to be honest they all sound pretty bad on my monitors over here...shrill and "essy" the impressive bass at 1:50 is just an illusion...the guy was cranking his car stereo which had a subwoofer. so with that in mind, the mic actually didn't pump out a lot of bass at all (compared to the amount of bass that i imagine was coming from his system). and remember, if you're just recording things acoustically, you typically aren't going to run into those artificial amounts of bass.
why doesn't the OP post up a sample recording so we have something to compare to....because honestly i didn't hear anything "great" from the eim003 sample videos...
Yes, after a few tests at my home HI-FI system, obviously you are right, but it is way better than stock mics and handles much more SPL.
BTW, I found a solution for improve the recording. Samsung has limited the input signal via HPF filter. I went into the conf files in system/etc and modified a few settings ther. Now it records more bass with stock mics and external one. I turned off the HPF filter and swtched it to "hi-fi" mode.
I used the S3 theme to do that. :good:
I think that the mic has a potential with a better preamp. It is firstly made for iDevices.
PS: If you think there is a better mic for this money, you can tell me.
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The mic quality is very bad if you want to record a nice music concert the music become very distorded..
I used to have the htc one (and the htc m8)with that device i could record a concert without distortion..
I think i am returning this device also:crying:
My last hope is the upcoming nokia 930..
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:crying::crying:
The mic quality is very bad if you want to record a nice music concert the music become very distorded..
I used to have the htc one (and the htc m8)with that device i could record a concert without distortion..
I think i am returning this device also:crying:
My last hope is the upcoming nokia 930..
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unfortunately it seems that only apple has gotten the recording algorithms right...bring an iphone into the club and it reproduces the bass very well. too bad i'm not an apple user
If you want professional quality recording, why not buy this instead?
http://youtu.be/HCAaD6xMDFk
john291 said:
:crying::crying:
The mic quality is very bad if you want to record a nice music concert the music become very distorded..
I used to have the htc one (and the htc m8)with that device i could record a concert without distortion..
I think i am returning this device also:crying:
My last hope is the upcoming nokia 930..
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You're the mic problem I m the camare overheat!!!!
Sony details make the problem!!!
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unfortunately it seems that only apple has gotten the recording algorithms right...bring an iphone into the club and it reproduces the bass very well. too bad i'm not an apple user
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The HTC one did also have zero distortion when recording at loud concerts..
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john291 said:
The HTC one did also have zero distortion when recording at loud concerts..
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and yet...4 megapixels is too little for me, no matter how large their pixels are =( i would actually be ok if it was at least 8
Totally Agree. Microphone is too sensitive and distorts
john291 said:
:crying::crying:
The mic quality is very bad if you want to record a nice music concert the music become very distorded..
I used to have the htc one (and the htc m8)with that device i could record a concert without distortion..
I think i am returning this device also:crying:
My last hope is the upcoming nokia 930..
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What a shame! you are totally corrrect, my Z2 is exactly the same, I took some amazingly clear video in a club the other night, the camera captured the scene in low light so well shockingly good video BUT when I listened the next day the sound is totally distorted ruining the videos!
I downloaded a Sound meter app on my Z2 and the wifes Galaxy S5, side by side they both give completely different DB reading, The sony is WAY too high! if you make a sound the sound meter jumps right up, where are the Galazy S5 is more stable. Unfortunately i cant find any setting in the phone to change the microphone sensitivity. so the problem is a serious problem that we are stuck with! SUCKS!!
SONY really need to fix this with an update!
Agree but look at this video
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If you want professional quality recording, why not buy this instead?
Yes you are right this add on microphone is a good option for planned recordings! But what if you are just out and about with just your phone, and want to video something, live singing, a party, disco. The sony Z2 can take awesome video but if its a loud environment or with a lot of BASS the sound will come through on the video completely distorted and impossible to listen. Sony need to do an update ASAP.
Here is a sample of the distorted audio. (shame, the video quality came out really nice the DJ was Plastic Funk live in Pattaya Thailand)
*** WTF, I cant post the youtube video showing the distorted audio because I am new to this forum. sucks! if you want to see it just search youtube for "Distorted Sony experia z2 microphone"
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Anyone who have this? I am thinking about ordering one but if the problem is in the software is more problematic. If this makes recording at loud volumes way better it would be great!
Doomkernel allows to lower mic gain, that is why your recordings are ... over saturated.
KyleSforza said:
If you want professional quality recording, why not buy this instead?
http://youtu.be/HCAaD6xMDFk
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or use your noise cancelling headphones and change the settings->Sound->Audio accessories to Stereo mic STM10
One Twelve said:
Doomkernel allows to lower mic gain, that is why your recordings are ... over saturated.
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Yes, the mic gain is up too much, I did a DB test, side by side to samsung S5, the SONY is way high.
Any help that you can give, how I use DOOMKERNEL ??
sony z2 user1 said:
Yes, the mic gain is up too much, I did a DB test, side by side to samsung S5, the SONY is way high.
Any help that you can give, how I use DOOMKERNEL ??
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It isn't for the faint of heart and requires the bootloader to be unlocked, if you search the forum you will find the doomkernel thread. You might want to ask people in that thread for more help or suggestions.
hi!i have the same problem. I changed the app to record the videos.
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hi!i have the same problem. I changed the app to record the videos.
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Hi.
Which app do you use? And did this solved the problem of the bad Sound?
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Hi.
Which app do you use? And did this solved the problem of the bad Sound?
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I'm just comparing this to the One M8 which is my current phone, and to be honest this is almost as good, if not better than the M8 is almost all aspects. One thing which I'm curious about though, which is very under-reported in all media and all reviews, is how the audio quality is when recording very loud things during video recording. To me, there are only 3 phones which are capable of recording things like concerts, street music performances or other really loud things and not have the audio quality make you cringe - The Nokia 808, Nokia 1020 and the One/One M8. Those phones have special microphones which make recording things like music concerts absolutely possible without the sound distorting to a horrible degree.
So how is the Z3 in this respect? The Z2 was just as bad as any other phone other than the 3 I listed above, so I expect the Z3 is just as bad, but I'd like to find a definitive answer before passing judgement.
I GOT A Z2 AND WHEN I RECORD VIDEOS IN THE CLUB ( VERY LOUD BOOM) i use http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/accessories/stereo-microphone-stm10/ and sound is better than any phone out there now if u try without it forget it bad hopefully it would work on the z3
Is the audio quality only bad with loud music /loud noise?? I wouldnt expect a camera phone to record a video at a concert with high quality audio to be fair but would be awesome if it could
To be honest man, with z2 forget about recording at really loud concerts, they somehow ****ed up software-wise recording mic gain...
I would love an answer to this as well...I'm excited for this device to be available stateside. I'm coming from owning galaxy phones since the SII and I would like a change. All the galaxy phones I've had were terrible at recording in very loud environments. My girlfriend's Iphone would do great.
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To be honest man, with z2 forget about recording at really loud concerts, they somehow ****ed up software-wise recording mic gain...
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almost any android sounds bad in loud environments( htc one m8 sounds decent) thats why sony came out the smp10 or whatever the name is for it using that microphone connect it to ur z2 sounds is amazing i show u i recorded this at a erasure concert http://youtu.be/Jj14G_-F24k and this one is in a club LOUD 4K btw http://youtu.be/4YRAmzn-APo all of those video were recorded using a z2 this one with a lumia 1520 http://youtu.be/5KVPxgIMwQU
Wondering about this one as well, read that the Z3 actually has different recording modes for audio including a concert one so it might actually finally be addressed! Usually the sensitivity is way too high for concerts with phones... But I haven't actually been able to find any results. Had the Lumia930 (and 920) which were also excellent for concerts...
And getting additional mics for me isn't really an option unfortunately...
Looked up the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55458948&postcount=41
Yes, three audio recording modes now and auto. Not yet tried video in a loud environment, but have to assume it's better than the Z2 (not hard).
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I'm just comparing this to the One M8 which is my current phone, and to be honest this is almost as good, if not better than the M8 is almost all aspects. One thing which I'm curious about though, which is very under-reported in all media and all reviews, is how the audio quality is when recording very loud things during video recording. To me, there are only 3 phones which are capable of recording things like concerts, street music performances or other really loud things and not have the audio quality make you cringe - The Nokia 808, Nokia 1020 and the One/One M8. Those phones have special microphones which make recording things like music concerts absolutely possible without the sound distorting to a horrible degree.
So how is the Z3 in this respect? The Z2 was just as bad as any other phone other than the 3 I listed above, so I expect the Z3 is just as bad, but I'd like to find a definitive answer before passing judgement.
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Lol. Didn't you know htc had to change there audio capture setup as they copied a patent by nokia so only early htc one phones were good at capturing loud music. Htc had to revise mics and capture of audio got worst with newer models.
http://www.dailytech.com/Nokia+Wins...+to+Sink+Struggling+Handsets/article30403.htm
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Lol. Didn't you know htc had to change there audio capture setup as they copied a patent by nokia so only early htc one phones were good at capturing loud music. Htc had to revise mics and capture of audio got worst with newer models.
http://www.dailytech.com/Nokia+Wins...+to+Sink+Struggling+Handsets/article30403.htm
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I thought HTC eventually came to some sort of agreement with Nokia and it's all been sorted now?
I know the LG G3 made a big deal of recording in loud environments, and when I tested video recording on that earlier in the year, I noticed it's extremely directional too,
I can only hope Sony has improved things massively, to have even added a menu option to let you choose.
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almost any android sounds bad in loud environments( htc one m8 sounds decent) thats why sony came out the smp10 or whatever the name is for it using that microphone connect it to ur z2 sounds is amazing i show u i recorded this at a erasure concert http://youtu.be/Jj14G_-F24k and this one is in a club LOUD 4K btw http://youtu.be/4YRAmzn-APo all of those video were recorded using a z2 this one with a lumia 1520 http://youtu.be/5KVPxgIMwQU
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I am sure that there is a way to fix that,
Few days ago I've been in a very very loud place, in a club. I wanted to send some recordings and since that person didn't have viber I did it via facebook messenger, I was more then surprised how good it recorded, and it made think that theres something wrong with software they are making, with the mic gain, but not with the OS or hardware itself.
I can't wait for someone to post their impressions of z3 in loud place.
I'm only gonna be sad that I won't be changing my z2 in next one or two years, which is perfect for me in any way, if z3 proves to be better and audio recording.
I would this weekend. I got a z3 in my hands I would try with and without the smp10
Don't forget to inform us please, if its gonna be positive im gonna think of selling z2 and getting z3 compact then.
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Is the audio quality only bad with loud music /loud noise?? I wouldnt expect a camera phone to record a video at a concert with high quality audio to be fair but would be awesome if it could
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The M8 records concert sound absolutely great, and the M7 before it did it even better. I do not hold up too much hope of the Z3 doing the same as it is not quite the beast the M8 is.
As for Nokia patents, pretty sure that was sorted as M8 concert recordings sure sound like they use HDR mics.
After that I had a problem with distorted sound
Video shooting on my xperia z1
I solved it through PIMP MY XPERIA Z1
I reduced the microphone volume in five levels
And now he Recorder
Great
Before
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9rTrkEnvjo
Listen to the recording quality in youtube
After
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4Tf29RQXQE
pimp my z1...doest it work on...z3? (mic level volume control..?)
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pimp my z1...doest it work on...z3? (mic level volume control..?)
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No need to use any "pimping". Simply play only the sound from the right microphone (VLC player has this option for example). Sony did a **** job with mics. Left is much worse than right. So when you mix it to stereo the result is pure crap. But if you play the sound only from the right mic, it's pretty good, it's mono of course, but at least it sounds a little bit like real world
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pimp my z1...doest it work on...z3? (mic level volume control..?)
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yes new the mic is perfect
So..anyone tried to record in a loud environment with the Z3? How is it??
I record this video with Xperia Z3 , with low Sensitivity mic setting, and cinema fv-5 for touch focus, the audio output is low because i set mono recording (64kbps, 22khz), but if you put in stereo and aac-he, the output is (157kbps, 48khz), i think is very good in loud environments.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqGVmbwmXqQ
Hi,
As Google moved into top notch phones category, it would be interesting how Nexus 6 performs in recording audio department during video capture in loud area. As known, Galaxy Nexus , Nexus 4 and Nexus 5 are useless recording audio during video capture in loud area.
HTC M7/M8 are the only ones from Android league which can record audio during video capture without distortion in loud area up to 150db sound pressure.
It is really interesting how good is Nexus 6 in this department?
I haven't received mine Nexus 6 yet, so would really appreciate samples.
Interesting thread. Would.be good to know. Wonder how others flagships do also
This is the test video I've done with HTC M7: one with HDR Mics and another one with alternative Mics in 130db sound area: HTC ONE M7 HDR Mic vs Non-HDR Mic: http://youtu.be/k0CIoouBM24
If it records sound I'm good. I don't have time in life to discern decibels and HDR mics and whatnot. It's motorola built. I would be looking into what the latest Moto X 2Gen device is doing for the closest indicator thus far if you want info that might be the closest thing to the N6 mic. Comparing to HTC or Samsung devices is relatively meaningless.
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This is the test video I've done with HTC M7: one with HDR Mics and another one with alternative Mics in 130db sound area: HTC ONE M7 HDR Mic vs Non-HDR Mic: http://youtu.be/k0CIoouBM24
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Nice vid. When you get the nexus please also do a comparison. When I had my htc one with the membrane I was banging on and on about when the had to change the mics and audio got worst but no one listened now it's clear)
I'm glad samsung paid attention to there mics with the note 4, has some of the best audio recording I have experienced on a phone and the 3 mics work perfectly and can even separate voices individually if you wanted to do that.
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I'm glad samsung paid attention to there mics with the note 4, has some of the best audio recording I have experienced on a phone and the 3 mics work perfectly and can even separate voices individually if you wanted to do that.
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Have you tried to record audio in loud area?
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Have you tried to record audio in loud area?
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Usually I record things like class lectures, it has gotten quite noisy in class especially when people participate and I was able to hear the professor loud and clear over some of their voices and if not, samsung software allows me to tinker with the recorded audio.
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Usually I record things like class lectures, it has gotten quite noisy in class especially when people participate and I was able to hear the professor loud and clear over some of their voices and if not, samsung software allows me to tinker with the recorded audio.
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Excellent to hear the N4 has great audio recording
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Usually I record things like class lectures, it has gotten quite noisy in class especially when people participate and I was able to hear the professor loud and clear over some of their voices and if not, samsung software allows me to tinker with the recorded audio.
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Have you tried recording a concert or a band? A class lecture at its peak won't be as loud as one of the above, a live band is a great test of the mics recording quality.
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Seems Nexus 6 shoot video with mono audio. Sad!
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Seems Nexus 6 shoot video with mono audio. Sad!
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Yea, and with 4 mics on board, really stupid, i'm, sure there will be mod for this, but come on.
I was at a concert yesterday and really appreciated the audio recording quality of my M8. No distortion at all! I was really hoping the Nexus would be decent in this area.
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youtube.com/watch?v=sNbrWz7hZO4 nexus 6
youtube.com/watch?v=UDT-8HmbCGs nexus 6
youtube.com/watch?v=8CvbMUAMZH0 lumia recording good sound, this what I expect for a "premium" phone.
Two youtube videos that shows that nexus has not a HDR mic. Very bad quality for a very expensive device.
Still HTC one m8, iphone or lumia are the only phones in the market that can record good sound in this kind of loud sound conditions
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Two youtube videos that shows that nexus has not a HDR mic. Very bad quality for a very expensive device.
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Quality is FAR from bad, but......mono recording with 4 mics is indeed terrible CHOICE!
Hello all,
My previous phone was a Moto X Style (or Pure in the US) and the sound quality while filming videos at loud heavy metal/hard rock concerts was very good. My battery life having become abysmal, I decided to switch to the LG V20 last Fall, knowing I'll really miss the front-facing stereo speakers but thinking I'd improve the quality of my live music videos.
So far, 3 concerts with the V20 and struck out the 3 times. 1st 2 concerts, I tried to mess around with the manual video settings and the resulting videos had bad sound, clipping... Video itself was not too bad, but far from perfect. For the 3rd concert, I said, to hell with manual, I'll go fully automatic, as I did with my Moto X Style. Results for the audio were a bit better than with the manual settings, but still a far cry from what I got with my Moto X Style.
I read everywhere that the V20 was the phone to get if you wanted the best possible live music video recordings. And it's not happening. Is there something wrong with my phone? Anyone had manual settings they use at loud music shows they'd agree to share?
Thanks for any input.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KW-zcPAD3QsUmXgGboAOnrEBCBo4GyAf/view?usp=drivesdk
You've got to open the Camera app, select Manual Video from the top (second screen), then ensure you've got your high fidelity audio settings correctly selected. You will likely need to reduce the 'Gain' setting to avoid clipping, as concerts are ridiculously loud. You'll find that the 'Concert' setting in manual video mode presets that for you.
If all else fails, HD Audio Recorder in the app drawer allows for high fidelity recording as well, albeit without the video.
Hope this helps, cheers!
Hi,
Thanks for the reply. But I don't see any Concert mode or preset in my manual video settings. Only in the HD Audio Recorder app. I'll try to match these settings into the HiFi manual video mode at my next concert next week. Any tip to get the best video quality at concerts, when not using the flash and having to deal with stage lights that are often no that dim?
metaleloi666 said:
Hi,
Thanks for the reply. But I don't see any Concert mode or preset in my manual video settings. Only in the HD Audio Recorder app. I'll try to match these settings into the HiFi manual video mode at my next concert next week. Any tip to get the best video quality at concerts, when not using the flash and having to deal with stage lights that are often no that dim?
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My apologies, concert mode in HD audio recorder app is what I was referring to. Yes, you can copy those same settings into Manual Video mode though. That should help you out.
Here's a brief but very good beginners tutorial on video settings that you should learn to use with your manual mode in both video and photo applications. This V20 is fantastic at a multitude of different functions.
https://photographylife.com/iso-shutter-speed-and-aperture-for-beginners
Lastly, after studying these variables a bit and learning to play around with them in your own home, or outdoors during practice sessions, give it a shot at your concerts. You can always record during the opening performers prior to the main event. Run outside to the bathroom and see how well the video and audio recorded, then make adjustments from there.
**Note** I did say 'Bathroom' .. you don't want event staff to catch you making HD recordings of live performances lol! That'll get you in a bit of trouble.
ONE last mention; in manual video mode, you can toggle between UHD at 30fps (2160p) or FHD (1080p) at 60fps.
I would think due to low exposure and rapid light shows, you might want FHD60.
You've to record video using manual mode and then adjust your mic settings , becuase it has too many useful adjustments.
Thanks all. I'll try some more at my next concert (and messing around with the video settings at home next weekend).
I'm not the kind of guy filming all concert long, I think you lose the live experience doing this (and it sucks for people around). I just enjoy filming 60-90 second-clips of 3-4 songs to get souvenirs to enjoy later...
maxi65 said:
You've to record video using manual mode and then adjust your mic settings , becuase it has too many useful adjustments.
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You mean the "Hi-Fi" settings?
metaleloi666 said:
Thanks all. I'll try some more at my next concert (and messing around with the video settings at home next weekend).
I'm not the kind of guy filming all concert long, I think you lose the live experience doing this (and it sucks for people around). I just enjoy filming 60-90 second-clips of 3-4 songs to get souvenirs to enjoy later...
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To keep it real imo, the v20 sucks when it comes down to just point and shoot. I get your point, I've been places where I just want to take a quick picture or video and it comes out horrible on my V20. When I switch to manual and adjust settings then the picture/video is very good. If you go to concerts a lot I would suggest different phone like pixel or take a few extra minutes in concert to get just the right manual settings.
Still_living714 said:
To keep it real imo, the v20 sucks when it comes down to just point and shoot. I get your point, I've been places where I just want to take a quick picture or video and it comes out horrible on my V20. When I switch to manual and adjust settings then the picture/video is very good. If you go to concerts a lot I would suggest different phone like pixel or take a few extra minutes in concert to get just the right manual settings.
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Agreed, pixel 2 might be the king of all smart phone cameras to date. I purchased this V20 because it's identical to having a $350-400 external headphone amp.
On my reference level floor tower speakers, playing back lossless audio with high impedance mode... Oh boy it makes me tingle...
Well.... I'm starting to think my V20 has mic problems... Because I was at a concert on Monday. Recorded some live videos in manual mode, with the same settings as "Concert" of the Hi-Fi Recorder app. And the results are far to be stellar. Sound is not very good, still with some cracking. Image is fine. I even tried the Hi-Fi Recorder app (so no video) and the sound is not too good either... Really disappointed by this...
My Moto X Style was much better for this, without having to mess up with any settings...
metaleloi666 said:
Well.... I'm starting to think my V20 has mic problems... Because I was at a concert on Monday. Recorded some live videos in manual mode, with the same settings as "Concert" of the Hi-Fi Recorder app. And the results are far to be stellar. Sound is not very good, still with some cracking. Image is fine. I even tried the Hi-Fi Recorder app (so no video) and the sound is not too good either... Really disappointed by this...
My Moto X Style was much better for this, without having to mess up with any settings...
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If there's cracking, there's likely some kind of fault with the hardware.
3mL said:
If there's cracking, there's likely some kind of fault with the hardware.
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This sucks....
metaleloi666 said:
Well.... I'm starting to think my V20 has mic problems... Because I was at a concert on Monday. Recorded some live videos in manual mode, with the same settings as "Concert" of the Hi-Fi Recorder app. And the results are far to be stellar. Sound is not very good, still with some cracking. Image is fine. I even tried the Hi-Fi Recorder app (so no video) and the sound is not too good either... Really disappointed by this...
My Moto X Style was much better for this, without having to mess up with any settings...
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Sounds like you have the gain set way too high.
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BROKEN1981 said:
Sounds like you have the gain set way too high.
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But I used the same values as the "concert" settings in Hi-Fi Recorder...
metaleloi666 said:
But I used the same values as the "concert" settings in Hi-Fi Recorder...
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How does it sound when you play it back on earphones?
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BROKEN1981 said:
How does it sound when you play it back on earphones?
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Didn't try with headphones, but transferred the files on my PC which is connected to my big sound system. And it doesn't sound good....
metaleloi666 said:
But I used the same values as the "concert" settings in Hi-Fi Recorder...
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Next time try these settings:
Увеличить
or these:
Увеличить
You look at the scale of the left and right channels next to the setting button. It should not be red, even in yellow is not desirable.
If the low frequencies are too strong, you can reduce the LCF to 75 Hz
If you want to hear some of my videos and say how the sound quality is.
https://youtu.be/BxJ0fSO0tAI
https://youtu.be/1TW5JvwM7yQ
https://youtu.be/3q8Ha7MboI0
https://youtu.be/iHHcyUd2ZY0
Don't know if you'll see this? I have been live audience recording concerts for 23+ years. I just bought a v20 and had the same experience. Wasn't what I expected. Seeing this now. Didnt realize there were manual settings for video recording. The problem is the LMT. TURN IT TO "OFF". probably don't need LFC either unless there is too much bass in the room? Boomy sounding? Watch the gain settings too. 0db is probably fine depending on how loud the concert is. Turn it down if it looks like the Wave file is a solid block. The reason you don't want to use the LMT is because it suppresses the loud spikes in the music and it does it very slowly which makes the audio sound swishy. It ruined 3 clips I shot at a recent concert. I never use a limiter (LMT) when I record because of that. Good luck
Cosmickc said:
Don't know if you'll see this? I have been live audience recording concerts for 23+ years. I just bought a v20 and had the same experience. Wasn't what I expected. Seeing this now. Didnt realize there were manual settings for video recording. The problem is the LMT. TURN IT TO "OFF". probably don't need LFC either unless there is too much bass in the room? Boomy sounding? Watch the gain settings too. 0db is probably fine depending on how loud the concert is. Turn it down if it looks like the Wave file is a solid block. The reason you don't want to use the LMT is because it suppresses the loud spikes in the music and it does it very slowly which makes the audio sound swishy. It ruined 3 clips I shot at a recent concert. I never use a limiter (LMT) when I record because of that. Good luck
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Thanks for this. I think I already played with these settings with no success but will take a look again.
I think the micros of the phone might be defective...
Some i found from the web. Distance from the speakers makes a difference
https://youtu.be/DUd3w0EETF0
https://youtu.be/pixMqrANxFI
https://youtu.be/Xj_lTH7TuXk
All are in auto