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dont understand crappy audio

I dont understand it.. samsung sells video cameras ... if they sold one with the crapy audio of our phone no one would buy it and they wouldnt sell any.
So they know how to record acceptable audio.. Why cannot they tweek the audio settings when you start camera to record acceptable audio (assuming they need to be different than for a phone) and change back when exiting/using phone?

What are you comparing the audio recording to. I've seen people compare it to other phones online, and many reckoned it was quite good..
Also, you do realise that video cameras have a lot more space to work with right? The quality of todays smartphones video/audio/photos is magic considering the limited space available for sensors.

andrewluecke said:
What are you comparing the audio recording to. I've seen people compare it to other phones online, and many reckoned it was quite good..
Also, you do realise that video cameras have a lot more space to work with right? The quality of todays smartphones video/audio/photos is magic considering the limited space available for sensors.
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It's way too sensitive... I recorded a concert (and a drive in teh car) and the audio was crap. Distorted in the car, unbearable in concert (way distorted/nosiy... literally couldn't hear the actual music).
Saw other videos with phones and they were MUCH better (audio wise). And no, it wasn't an extremely loud concert.

I think the audio is really good for a phone this size. Are you comparing it to a bose system or what? Lol
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I had the same problem with Omnia HD. The sound of videos was so poor too. It was resolved by firmware update, where the audio codec was updated.
Anyone knows if exists any firmware with an acceptable sound quality of recorded videos on i9000??
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Playback is great, it is the recording that is a bit crazy, the mic is super sensitive.. hopefully they can adjust this in a firmware.

True i was in rally few days ago and recorded some videos from there , video quality was awesome but sound was terrible. Too sensitive mic!

Impressed by 720p capture, very disappointed with the audio.
Case in point: Recording as of today: youtube.com/watch?v=oQPov5mUTm8
not loud inside at all, just some general background noise.
Using latest official firmware from Samsung JG4 (Optus Aus)

It has one mic, designed for minimising out ambient noise during a phone call, you can't really expect it to be good at recording a concert.

Bs my kids 5800 an my wives n 85 and other Nokia phones all recorded acceptable audio.
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OP, your meaning of "audio" should be more carefully explained.
DO you mean:
1) Audio playback?
or
2) Audio recording?
My guess is #2. Yes, the microphone is quite sensitive. There were tons of people using the Samsung Omnia ( the prior generation android smartphone) who complained about the microphone NOT being sensitive enough. So Samsung decided to make the mic more sensitive.

External Speaker Quality ?

Hello,
I was just reading a review on Hemorrdroids.
http://hemorrdroids.net/htc-desire-hd-review/
in the review it is quoted that the external speaker was something your mates will laugh at as the quality is that poor ?
I am hoping to upgrade to this phone in a couple of weeks. I was just wondering if that is that statement true ? I do use my external speaker sharing you tube videos with my mates at work. I can't imagine it being that bad.
Cheers for your help !!!

themonkster said:
Hello,
I was just reading a review on Hemorrdroids.
http://hemorrdroids.net/htc-desire-hd-review/
in the review it is quoted that the external speaker was something your mates will laugh at as the quality is that poor ?
I am hoping to upgrade to this phone in a couple of weeks. I was just wondering if that is that statement true ? I do use my external speaker sharing you tube videos with my mates at work. I can't imagine it being that bad.
Cheers for your help !!!
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if you are familiar with the other HTC phones such as the Desire and Nexus One, then this is pretty much the same on the HD. Quality is "bearable", but it is simply not loud enough. Max setting on the Desire HD is approx60-70& of Milestone Speaker loudness.

Yep, its the worst I have had...but the quality of the phone makes up for it.

Well its not good but to say its really bad.. when you use dolby mobile its okay.. and when you use dolby mobile on headset its AWESOME!! best i've ever heard on any phone / mp3 player

Yes I can confirm that. I just got mine, first thing I tested is external speaker volume, media playback sound, ringtones, etc. For the so called media abilities touted for the DHD I have to say the exernal speakers for both sound quality & more importantly loudness is pathetic.
I have a normal Desire, a iPhone 4 & a Samsung Galaxy S to compare it to right here I'm afraid to say its definately not in the same league as the latter 2 & even the Desire which I find quite tinny seems to go louder.

Maybe someone will make an audio hack so it goes louder!
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zen123 said:
Yes I can confirm that. I just got mine, first thing I tested is external speaker volume, media playback sound, ringtones, etc. For the so called media abilities touted for the DHD I have to say the exernal speakers for both sound quality & more importantly loudness is pathetic.
I have a normal Desire, a iPhone 4 & a Samsung Galaxy S to compare it to right here I'm afraid to say its definately not in the same league as the latter 2 & even the Desire which I find quite tinny seems to go louder.
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for me i don't care about listening to music through the external speaker, my concern is could i hear the phone when it rings?

NoEnd said:
for me i don't care about listening to music through the external speaker, my concern is could i hear the phone when it rings?
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Ring volume is not that great I'm afraid.

I'm the reviewer...
I just find it so annoying, look at the San Fran, £99 and it's speaker is FAR better. Come on HTC!!!

The speaker is rubbish, it's just not loud enough. You can't even hear the GPS talking in a car lol.

If you want to see how sad it is, ive just updated the video thread with it in the bugs/problems sections a guy had some laugh with it.

to be honest the sound quality through the headphones is far more important to me. I guess it depends how you use the phone. Im just glad that people say the quality through a good pair of headphones is awesome!

SupremeBeaver said:
to be honest the sound quality through the headphones is far more important to me. I guess it depends how you use the phone. Im just glad that people say the quality through a good pair of headphones is awesome!
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im skeptical of how awesome it is, ive been spoiled with sound quality with my cowon S9 and Q-jays IEM's, im hoping that the DHD will sound on par with the cowon however i doubt it will be
awesome compared to iphone/ipod ....now that i can see

Speaker is woeful
I can also confirm that the external speaker is really disappointing. I criticised the original Desire for poor speaker volume and the promise of Dolby Mobile and SRS was one of the deal breakers in choosing to upgrade to the HD.
The ringtone selection is limited because you need to look for ones that are naturally loud. Forget watching some videos on the awesome screen when you can't hear the audio. I guess SatNav is going to be difficult too.
I use MixZing to improve speaker output for music when earphones are not nearby. But unless a hack appears to increase native volume, it's going to be a problem for a lot of people.
As a plus point, sound through ear/headphones is very impressive. Still needs a volume boost but perfectly acceptable for music playback.

Reminds me of the streak when i got it on 1.6 the speaker was quiet and made odd noises when put up full then came 2.1 its louder and clearer....Quite possibly a retarded software safety limit implemented.
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this is a deal breaker for me!
i thought with the SRS and all other crap they advertised that the speakers would be a bit decent! i have the n1 and the loud speaker and earpiece just total crap even with the hack to make them louder...
been missing a lot of calls cuz can't hear the phone (don't like vibration) ringing and when listening to the other side i try to find a quite place to listen to them as if i raise the volume the sound become very high pitched ..
damn you HTC i though the loud speaker would be at least like the ones in the EVO which is quite good!
a 50 bucks Chinese phone has far way better speaker than this crappy 700+ phone
hmm maybe most HTC's employees are bats! use high pitched frequencies to communicate

Can anyone compare the loudspeaker with HD2 ? HD2 seems even too loud for me.

[DISCUSSION] Loudness and quality of the BoomSound stereo speakers on HTC One

Hi, I wanted to open a new discussion related to loudness of the One and music quality overall.
So, HTC has two stereo big speakers on the front and they have some kind of amplifier.
HTC claims they are loud - 93dB. Are they? What are your experiences?
As of quality. HTC audio is in partership with "Beats Audio". It seems to improve quality of music.
Take a look at this video seems good.
And one more thing - speakers are on the front. Does it get on your nerves in everyday usage?
zdnet.com said:
"When I first heard HTC talk about the front-facing stereo speakers on the HTC One with the BoomSound branding, I thought it was just some kind of marketing gimmick. As you can clearly hear in the video below, with an HTC One and BoomSound, you can actually leave behind your portable speaker and enjoy quality audio without a headset.
My wife enjoys music and when she heard me rocking out down in the office she came to see what was going on. After seeing it was the HTC One, she told me I have to get her one on T-Mobile.
I had the volume up to the maximum and you can't even really tell there is any distortion in the audio quality. You will never miss another call or alarm if you crank the volume on the HTC One and may actually be blown out of your bed with the BoomSound. Keep in mind, you can individually control audio for ringtones, notifications, music, videos, and alarms, so make sure to do so before bed."
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Another from a DJ over here ...
and here's the original for comparison
Not too bad for a phone eh !!

depend on the recording device, there is some missing frequencies, but the HTC One does have very good clarity, i like it

The sound is immense, especially coming from a phone!

Nexus 6 Microphones Audio Quality

Hi,
As Google moved into top notch phones category, it would be interesting how Nexus 6 performs in recording audio department during video capture in loud area. As known, Galaxy Nexus , Nexus 4 and Nexus 5 are useless recording audio during video capture in loud area.
HTC M7/M8 are the only ones from Android league which can record audio during video capture without distortion in loud area up to 150db sound pressure.
It is really interesting how good is Nexus 6 in this department?
I haven't received mine Nexus 6 yet, so would really appreciate samples.

Interesting thread. Would.be good to know. Wonder how others flagships do also

This is the test video I've done with HTC M7: one with HDR Mics and another one with alternative Mics in 130db sound area: HTC ONE M7 HDR Mic vs Non-HDR Mic: http://youtu.be/k0CIoouBM24

If it records sound I'm good. I don't have time in life to discern decibels and HDR mics and whatnot. It's motorola built. I would be looking into what the latest Moto X 2Gen device is doing for the closest indicator thus far if you want info that might be the closest thing to the N6 mic. Comparing to HTC or Samsung devices is relatively meaningless.

alangrig said:
This is the test video I've done with HTC M7: one with HDR Mics and another one with alternative Mics in 130db sound area: HTC ONE M7 HDR Mic vs Non-HDR Mic: http://youtu.be/k0CIoouBM24
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Nice vid. When you get the nexus please also do a comparison. When I had my htc one with the membrane I was banging on and on about when the had to change the mics and audio got worst but no one listened now it's clear)

I'm glad samsung paid attention to there mics with the note 4, has some of the best audio recording I have experienced on a phone and the 3 mics work perfectly and can even separate voices individually if you wanted to do that.

jamesrick80 said:
I'm glad samsung paid attention to there mics with the note 4, has some of the best audio recording I have experienced on a phone and the 3 mics work perfectly and can even separate voices individually if you wanted to do that.
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Have you tried to record audio in loud area?

alangrig said:
Have you tried to record audio in loud area?
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Usually I record things like class lectures, it has gotten quite noisy in class especially when people participate and I was able to hear the professor loud and clear over some of their voices and if not, samsung software allows me to tinker with the recorded audio.

jamesrick80 said:
Usually I record things like class lectures, it has gotten quite noisy in class especially when people participate and I was able to hear the professor loud and clear over some of their voices and if not, samsung software allows me to tinker with the recorded audio.
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Excellent to hear the N4 has great audio recording

jamesrick80 said:
Usually I record things like class lectures, it has gotten quite noisy in class especially when people participate and I was able to hear the professor loud and clear over some of their voices and if not, samsung software allows me to tinker with the recorded audio.
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Have you tried recording a concert or a band? A class lecture at its peak won't be as loud as one of the above, a live band is a great test of the mics recording quality.
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Seems Nexus 6 shoot video with mono audio. Sad!

alangrig said:
Seems Nexus 6 shoot video with mono audio. Sad!
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Yea, and with 4 mics on board, really stupid, i'm, sure there will be mod for this, but come on.

I was at a concert yesterday and really appreciated the audio recording quality of my M8. No distortion at all! I was really hoping the Nexus would be decent in this area.
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youtube.com/watch?v=sNbrWz7hZO4 nexus 6
youtube.com/watch?v=UDT-8HmbCGs nexus 6
youtube.com/watch?v=8CvbMUAMZH0 lumia recording good sound, this what I expect for a "premium" phone.
Two youtube videos that shows that nexus has not a HDR mic. Very bad quality for a very expensive device.
Still HTC one m8, iphone or lumia are the only phones in the market that can record good sound in this kind of loud sound conditions

kodenho said:
Two youtube videos that shows that nexus has not a HDR mic. Very bad quality for a very expensive device.
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Quality is FAR from bad, but......mono recording with 4 mics is indeed terrible CHOICE!

Audiophiles out there!

Hello all audiophile Z5 owners!
How is the headphone output on this phone?
Is the quality good and loud?
Where can I find more specifications of the headphone jack and internal amp?

TordFuglstad said:
Hello all audiophile Z5 owners!
How is the headphone output on this phone?
Is the quality good and loud?
Where can I find more specifications of the headphone jack and internal amp?
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I wouldn't say I was a proper audio file but the audio on the z5 is good its really clear and louder than previous Z phones but once again sony have missed the loudness trick.
After reading GSM arenas review of the C5 ultra and the M5 saying without headphones the volume levels were 'excellently high' and with headphones they fell to below average on the C5 and fell on the M5 too but it was so high on the M5 to start off with that that it still remained a good volume. So this means that the M5 is louder than the Z5 range, I had high hopes for the Z line then they tested the Z5C and it just got a average.

According to GSM Arena.
Audio quality has its ups and downs
The Sony Xperia Z5 Compact did a very good job in the first part of our audio quality test, where it's connected to an active external amplifier. The scores it got were great top to bottom but it only matched them with an average volume level so we can't quite call it perfect.
Plugging in a pair of headphones harm the stereo crosstalk but it remained decent, but it also introduced a bit of frequency response deviation and brought the volume down a notch. Not too bad of a showing, but certainly not one worth bragging about.

I can't consider myself an audiophile but I will say the Z5 audio is an.improvement over the Z5 in both clarity and volume. It doesn't approach ZTE Axon level of quality and HTC M9 volume but it is adequate for the casual listener. I have dsee hx switched on which disables all other audio settings.

how is the volume in z5 compare to z3

entra6 said:
how is the volume in z5 compare to z3
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louder than Z3 but imo could be louder yet still

RCJ89 said:
louder than Z3 but imo could be louder yet still
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Exactly, well stated.

Coming from the Z1 it's a massive improvement on just about every level: Cleaner, wider and louder. It's very good, I'd say - I've certainly enjoyed listening to music on it very much!
"Loud enough"? How loud do you need it to be? Any louder than it is and I'm sure you'd hurt your hearing: it's plenty loud.

Timaustin2000 said:
Coming from the Z1 it's a massive improvement on just about every level: Cleaner, wider and louder. It's very good, I'd say - I've certainly enjoyed listening to music on it very much!
"Loud enough"? How loud do you need it to be? Any louder than it is and I'm sure you'd hurt your hearing: it's plenty loud.
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Tbh there are many phones alot louder than the Z5 and the whole sony range and people are not complaining. There are phones from HTC, Iphone, Note 4/5/Edge Plus and especially Xiaomi and Meizu that are alot louder.

RCJ89 said:
Tbh there are many phones alot louder than the Z5 and the whole sony range and people are not complaining. There are phones from HTC, Iphone, Note 4/5/Edge Plus and especially Xiaomi and Meizu that are alot louder.
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Of that I have no doubt but do people put those phones to max volume? Do they need to? The ability and necessity are two separate things.
The Z5 is plenty loud for just about any headphone need, so far as I can make out. I'd certainly never put it to max.

Allright, so I purchased the graphite black Z5 yesterday. I have done some quick listening to the audio out of the jack through my ATH IM50 in ear monitors and haven't broken in the hardware yet. But I can definitely hear a difference from the Z3. All over the sound is very clear, it seems like a good separation and I can definitely get some really smooth low tones and crisp higher tones as well. I haven't been fooling around with the EQ yet. But feel like I don't need to.
About the loudness, I feel it is louder than the Z3 and very much loud enough to run a pair of good IEM's like the IM50's. I am listening now and have the volume two down from maximum. Probably won't be as loud with some big headphones. But any a person with a little self respect will have a headphone amp for that purpose. :good:

Timaustin2000 said:
Of that I have no doubt but do people put those phones to max volume? Do they need to? The ability and necessity are two separate things.
The Z5 is plenty loud for just about any headphone need, so far as I can make out. I'd certainly never put it to max.
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Fair enough for me its the bigger expensive headphones that make the difference with less expensive headphones like in ear or on ear it is never loud enough, in a busy street i still can hear noise around me.
I know some people who do have them on max volume definitely. I always had my note 4 on max volume and my HTC M7 and my 6S but only with lesser expensive headphones on headphones £200 and over no need to but even when are not at max they are still louder than Z5 at Max volume. Each to their own at the end of the day but sometimes its not always practical for me to carry around my larger headphones so I use in ear ones than I can just put in my pocket.

Hi,
I'm also trying to squeeze perfect sound from android. I use this portable DAC
http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/audioquest-dragonfly-v12-usb-dac/
via USB OTG cable. For playback I use "USB audio player pro". It can stream very high resolution audio files. At the moment I'm listening music on Audio technica ATH M50x headphones.
Sound with external DAC is a way better than directly from audio jack

RCJ89 said:
Tbh there are many phones alot louder than the Z5 and the whole sony range and people are not complaining. There are phones from HTC, Iphone, Note 4/5/Edge Plus and especially Xiaomi and Meizu that are alot louder.
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That's unfortunate. One of the reasons I sent back my iPhone 6s, and opted to get a Z5 Compact is because I didn't think the sound of the 6s was much of a step up from my iPhone 4s. I was hoping the Z5 would be louder and fuller, especially for in-ear headphones at the gym. Might just be the headphones I've been using though. Maybe an upgrade in that department would resolve any potential issues I might have with the Z5.

I use sennheiser mm50 ip in ear phones with poweramp set to rock preset and to me the sound is nice crisp quality at loud enough volume levels
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@TordFuglstad & @Timaustin2000 I've been enjoying your camera works (on 'that' thread) very much. Maybe you guys could post on the 'regular' photo thread at times
Don't get me wrong, guys. Before dropping > $100 on a pair of cans, maybe an 'audiophile' should get a cheap $50 DAC first. But it's not very convenient - we all know. That's why I'm looking at LDAC for the first time (wireless SQ is usually terrible compared to wired). LDAC could still be over-hyped, I'm willing to give it shot for the first time. But I can't find too many LDAC headphones to choose from. Any suggestions?

I read that there is no custom DAC in the Z5 (vs. Z3), but they added LDAC support. Unfortunately, I can't find almost any headphones that support it. I was really hoping they would have added it to the SBH bluetooth line by now.

How does the audio quality compare to HTC Butterfly s (which I have now) or I9505 Galaxy S4? What about HTC M9 or iPhone 6?
I take GSMArena's results with a grain of salt. I bought the Butterfly s partly based on their review saying the volume was loud and that there was no distortion. Unfortunately, while the audio quality is great at medium-high volumes the bass distorts above 12/15, and there is hissing with IEMs.
My questions are 1) do these hiss? and 2) do they distort with bass? (test track would be Daft Punk - Touch)

I'm a hardcore SONY audiophile, and while the Z5 is fantastic, the Walkman ZX2 is still by FAR my favorite mobile music player when coupled with the XBA-Z5 in-earphones ( made in Japan ) and/or Z7 headphones ( made in Japan) by Sony,
followed in close 2nd place by the newer less pricey ZX100 Walkman, which is a step up from the A series.

Lol even the A series is stomping on the Z5. No point to compare it to the zx2/1/100
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