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Gt-i9505 = i337?

is the model number just renamed, or are there any differences? when floods of roms and development support comes out for i9505, will it be exclusively for i9505 or for I337 as well?
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soraxd said:
is the model number just renamed, or are there any differences? when floods of roms and development support comes out for i9505, will it be exclusively for i9505 or for I337 as well?
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Yes. Just as with the SGS3 each US provider had a different phine version number. Some SMALL things would need to be changed between each providers version like the modem. But the firmware is easily ported between different providers firmwares. Just look at the SGS3's ATT/ROGERS/Bell/Telus forum. Then there are ports from other US providers in there as well. So it SHOULD be the same and probably EXPANDED since the UK and other areas will have a version based on the qualcomm processor. So MANY MANY possibilities.
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It just doesn't have US LTE for AT&T so you get only HSDPA+ coverage.

RaptorMD said:
It just doesn't have US LTE for AT&T so you get only HSDPA+ coverage.
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I believe this to be wrong. The i9505 from UK should be the same exactly harwdare wise as the ATT model 1337 which IS a i9505 and should use the SAME bands. It has always been that way. Now in all the past variations of the ATT(SGS2 SGS1) and UK (I9000 I9100) versions the modem was different if course. And had to make a change in the kernel.
NOW if your talking about the gt-i9500 then that is ONLY a 3G device and ALSO uses the same frequency bands as ATT for the 3G (huspa+).
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I thought i9505 would cover all LTE bands. Why is ATT needing a different variant?
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MaKTaiL said:
I thought i9505 would cover all LTE bands. Why is ATT needing a different variant?
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Because the ATT version has physical branding (on back) and reworked software. It keeps people from confusing it with other versions. All US carriers do the same.
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MaKTaiL said:
I thought i9505 would cover all LTE bands. Why is ATT needing a different variant?
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aren't there like 20 bands of LTE? not sure if LTE works differently than HSPA but till now the best phones only boasted quadband.. a jump from quad-band to vigint-band seems crazy lol
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RockRatt said:
I believe this to be wrong. The i9505 from UK should be the same exactly harwdare wise as the ATT model 1337 which IS a i9505 and should use the SAME bands. It has always been that way. Now in all the past variations of the ATT(SGS2 SGS1) and UK (I9000 I9100) versions the modem was different if course. And had to make a change in the kernel.
NOW if your talking about the gt-i9500 then that is ONLY a 3G device and ALSO uses the same frequency bands as ATT for the 3G (huspa+).
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you are wrong i3 att is different than t mobile or sprint or Verizon.. tgw modem from one will brick other carriers phone.
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lgkahn said:
you are wrong i3 att is different than t mobile or sprint or Verizon.. tgw modem from one will brick other carriers phone.
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Re-read what I wrote and you quoted. I said the MODEMS are different between each providers versions and HAD TO BE REPLACED. The hardware of the ATT "SHOULD BE" the same as the Interntional UK version of the i9505.
ATT has always used the same frequency bands as the UK and much of the rest of the GSM networks world wide. TMob uses a different band and always has for data. The CDMA versions have always been a completely different beast from the ATT/INTERNATIONAL versions BECAUSE the latter use GSM(WCDMA I BELIEVE) networks and NOT CDMA like verizon and sprint.
"I am NOT saying" that you can interchange the modems from ANY of the providers. In fact when the SGS2 ATT version i777 came out I could IN FACT put the INTERNATIONAL SGS2 I9100 firmware in my phone and it would work without bricking it. Without changing anything out. But calls would not work correctly as talked about below...
BUT if you look at my ATT Modem thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1336958 you will see that I tried the modems from the i9100 onto the i777 and could make calls but the other person on the line could NOT hear me. This is where the OTHER change comes to play and has to be mic swapped, the mic has to be swapped to use the international versions firmware on the i777 to fix the mics being swapped differently between the two devices. The ATT version I777 used the exyrnos processor as did the i9100 international SGS2. The ONLY REAL difference between the internation i9100 and i777 ATT was the ATT version had different mic locations and did NOT have the fm tuner. Other than that they were almost the exact same.
So back to the original question from the OP, I believe the i9505 International Version and the ATT I337 (A I9505 VARIANT) will be close or the same hardware wise and roms should be VERY EASILY interchangeable as was/is the case between the i9100/i777 versions. Of course the cdma versions will be totally different due to DIFFERENT hardware needed for CDMA. And TMob different due to 1 different radio frequency needed for data
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Any one tried to odin I9505 rom to an I337
Has Anyone tried to odin the I9505 rom to an I337 or does anyone know someone who did? I would think if it worked it would unlock the I337 bootloader.
edit.. quite unofficial but using pdadb.net the LTE bands for the 2 are different
I337 : LTE700 (B17), LTE1700/2100 (B4)
I9505: LTE2100 (B1), LTE850 (B5), LTE1800 (B3), LTE2600 (B7), LTE900 (B8), LTE800 (B20)
so maybe you could Odin flash I9505 then Odin just the modem from the I337 if it's available.
Also based on RockRatt's post does anyone know if the mic's or anything else is actually different?

My s4 says under "About Device" that its model number is I337. However, doing an IMEI lookup, it says i9505. So I would assume no difference aside from the LTE bands, and some really small fine tuning under the hood..

After reading this thread, I am a little disappointed. I bought an international S4 i9505 with the intention of using it in USA. And now I am reading that the LTE bands on the i9505 and ATT version are different which means I cant use the i9505 in the US without a mod which is not guaranteed 100% ?
Has anyone tried flashing the i9505 with ATT modem with success?

jesa said:
Has Anyone tried to odin the I9505 rom to an I337 or does anyone know someone who did? I would think if it worked it would unlock the I337 bootloader.
edit.. quite unofficial but using pdadb.net the LTE bands for the 2 are different
I337 : LTE700 (B17), LTE1700/2100 (B4)
I9505: LTE2100 (B1), LTE850 (B5), LTE1800 (B3), LTE2600 (B7), LTE900 (B8), LTE800 (B20)
so maybe you could Odin flash I9505 then Odin just the modem from the I337 if it's available.
Also based on RockRatt's post does anyone know if the mic's or anything else is actually different?
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You can't ODIN a I9505 rom on the I337 because it's bootloader is locked and only files with samsung's encryption key for the I337 will flash via ODIN. The bootloader is locked so we can't flash anything via ODIN except official AT&T firmware, and if you have the latest MF3 full update you can't flash anything other than MF3, you can't flash back to mdl or mdb after upgrading.
No way to truly unlock the bootloader at this point, Loki is just a work-around.
Because of the very different LTE bands in the Europe and the US, I think their are likely some hardware changes between the I9505 and the i337, even if it's only related to LTE chips.
The compatibility of AT&T and UK phones was true with GSM and HSPA, but now with LTE bands they are diverging, so what applies to the old S1 and S2 doesn't necessarily apply anymore.
I think it's unlikely that you'll get LTE working in the US on a I9505, might want to sell it and get a T-mobile version, that will work with AT&T LTE and the bootloader is unlocked

I'm a S4 newbie. Has anyone used the I9505 on AT&T network and if so, what are the issues? I'd like to find a phone that supports TWRP and I know the I337 doesn't

It supports SafeStrap, but that's a different issue. Anyway, the I9505 will not get LTE on any US carrier due to the device not having the US LTE frequencies. The I9505 otherwise functions as expected on AT&T. HSPA is slow compared to LTE, but not a deal breaker.

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Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
It supports SafeStrap, but that's a different issue. Anyway, the I9505 will not get LTE on any US carrier due to the device not having the US LTE frequencies. The I9505 otherwise functions as expected on AT&T. HSPA is slow compared to LTE, but not a deal breaker.
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Thanks. When you reference SafeStrap I assume you are referring to the I337. I've already installed SafeStrap which is OK as an interim solution, but I'd rather install TWRP as my recovery software. Do you know of any S4 variants that have a) unlocked bootloader and b) are compatible with AT&T? According to this site: http://www.phonemore.com/compare/phones/ the I9505G supports the same LTE frequencies as the I337/?

Your two options are the I9505G - good luck in finding it - and the T-Mobile M919. In the case of the T-Mobile device you have to carrier unlock it to use it on AT&T.

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Your two options are the I9505G - good luck in finding it - and the T-Mobile M919. In the case of the T-Mobile device you have to carrier unlock it to use it on AT&T.
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Thanks. Great info. According to this reference the M919 supports only one of the three LTE frequencies of the I337. Is that true and if so, is it significant?
http://www.phonemore.com/compare/ph...vs-samsung-galaxy-s4-sgh-i337-att-32gb/340721
Also, according to the same site, the I9505G supports all three, but as you say it's tough to find one at reasonable price. Thanks again.

That site is full of crap. The M919 supports the same exact frequencies as the I337.

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
That site is full of crap. The M919 supports the same exact frequencies as the I337.
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Thanks again. I appreciate the feedback. For my future reference can you refer me to a site that has accurate information?

[Q] Most "Rom flashing" friendly Galaxy S$

Hi everyone, I currently own a Xperia Z1 (a fantastic phone by the way) but since it is bootloader locked there aren't many things to do with it, so
I, being the flashaholic that I am, decided to trade it for a galaxy S4 so I started searching here in my country (The Dominican Republic) for somebody to trade it with, but I need know two things:
-First: my carrier uses the 900Mhz band for 3g (As I understand only the international/sprint and verizon support that frecuency)
could somebody confirm if the T-mobile one also works on 900mhz (Carrier Orange Dominicana).
-Second: I would like to know what is the most "hack" friendly of all of the S4 Variants, I mean as close to a nexus devices as possible.
I believe the i9500 (international) to be the the one i'm looking for, but that version is getting a bit harder to get here, and I've heard bad things about the bootloader of the verizon version,(how bad it actually is?) so if I have to choose one of the carrier's version, considering the two things above, which one should a go for?
thanks for reading this.

Im in the Caribbean and my carriers 3g band is 850. The most hack friendly is definitely the i9505 (snapdragon version) which is what I have and it supports the 900 3g band. So there you go get the i9505, it has LTE as well you never know when it may come to your country.
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jamboss said:
Im in the Caribbean and my carriers 3g band is 850. The most hack friendly is definitely the i9505 (snapdragon version) which is what I have and it supports the 900 3g band. So there you go get the i9505, it has LTE as well you never know when it may come to your country.
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Thanks for replying, the i9505 looks like an excellent choice, but then again is rather difficult to get an international here, Most sellers / owners willing to sell/trade have either the verizon or sprint version (a few others have the T-Mobile one) so if I were to choose between the verizon's or Sprint's, which one would be the wisest choice? (I know that both support the 900mhz 3g frecuency) I heard both aren't too open to mods (Locked Bootloaders, self sim locking, etc.... )

Out of the blue this website/forum posted this exact post made by me. Is this even legal? seems like they are stealing XDA threads info and posting thm as their own
http://www.usoftphone.com/t187961.html

[Q] SM-G900V - Enable wider LTE bandwidth

Hello,
I am very proud to be a part of the community now.
I bought few days ago an unblocked Samsung galaxy S5 SM-G900V in Best Buy Store.
Today and for some times I will be in France, using my phone with local service proivder. Unfortunately, this model cannot connect to the 4G / LTE network in France.
Local bandwith :
- 1600 mHz
- 2600 mHz
Samsung told me that the device can only connect to the following networks :
- 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 mHz
Indeed I would like to know if it is the components posing problems or just the configuration made by Samsung / Verizon to block the connection in foreign countries like France. If it is the case I can flash my device and modify the bandwith accordingly to French one ?
Also I understood that Verizon device is not allowing root modification, is still the case ?
The seller from best buy ensured me that the phone was going to work in France but this is not true...
Many thanks for your help and support...

turz13 said:
1. Indeed I would like to know if it is the components posing problems or just the configuration made by Samsung / Verizon to block the connection in foreign countries like France. If it is the case I can flash my device and modify the bandwith accordingly to French one ?
2. Also I understood that Verizon device is not allowing root modification, is still the case ?
3. The seller from best buy ensured me that the phone was going to work in France but this is not true...
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1. It is a hardware issue, not software, so you will not be able to change it.
2. Correct, the Verizon model(and AT&T) is still not able to be rooted.
3. It will work in France, it just won't connect at the fastest speed. Myself and others have used the phone in foreign countries with success, so it is definitely doable.

(If) the SM-G900V is the dev edition. Yes you can root it.
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Versatile1 said:
The SM-G900V is the dev edition. Yes you can root it.
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Correct, but it doesn't have the hardware required.

chamberc said:
Correct, but it doesn't have the hardware required.
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Right, but 3G and changing APN etc. should work. I was answering the confusion he had on root.
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Versatile1 said:
The SM-G900V is the dev edition. Yes you can root it.
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you sure about that? I have a SM-G900V and its not a dev edition phone..... and if for some reason it is i purchqsed as a regular device lol
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Thanks, I can be stupid sometimes. ... edited lol
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jcollier said:
1. It is a hardware issue, not software, so you will not be able to change it.
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If you can quote a source for that, please do so so that we can elucidate more details. Personally, I doubt that it is a hardware limitation. In the past there were hardware differences with different chips needed to support various transceiver bands. But semiconductor manufacturers have been leveraging advances in lithography and economies of scale for some time to move toward single chip solutions.
When XDA members asked these same questions about the S3, lots of people proffered the standard answer saying that it was a hardware issue. And that it would be impossible to modify the firmware to use a Bell or ATT phone on TMobile's AWS band. This was proven to be wrong (1, 2), the limitation was only in the firmware. The S3, S4 and N3 firmware have since been successfully modified to operate variant handsets on the TMobile and Wind bands.
The S5 has been reported to use the Qualcomm WTR1625L RF transceiver. This is said to be the first IC that can operate on all LTE bands and looking at the datasheet for the chipset suggests that this is true. In fact Qualcomm promotes the transceiver this way -
Qualcomm said:
the WTR1625L performs carrier aggregation by "accommodat[ing] all cellular modes and 2G, 3G, and 4G/LTE frequency bands and band combinations that are either deployed or in commercial planning globally."
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There may still be cost saving or protectionist measures in supporting hardware choices that limit us but given the available evidence and in particular the specific RF chip being used in the S5.. it would be fair to say that regional LTE limitations are much more likely to be firmware than hardware issues.
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fffft said:
If you can quote a source for that, please do so so that we can elucidate more details. Personally, I doubt that it is a hardware limitation. In the past there were hardware differences with different chips needed to support various transceiver bands. But semiconductor manufacturers have been leveraging advances in lithography and economies of scale for some time to move toward single chip solutions.
When XDA members asked these same questions about the S3, lots of people proffered the standard answer saying that it was a hardware issue. And that it would be impossible to modify the firmware to use a Bell or ATT phone on TMobile's AWS band. This was proven to be wrong (1, 2), the limitation was only in the firmware. The S3, S4 and N3 firmware have since been successfully modified to operate variant handsets on the TMobile and Wind bands.
The S5 has been reported to use the Qualcomm WTR1625L RF transceiver. This is said to be the first IC that can operate on all LTE bands and looking at the datasheet for the chipset suggests that this is true. In fact Qualcomm promotes the transceiver this way -
There may still be cost saving or protectionist measures in supporting hardware choices that limit us but given the available evidence and in particular the specific RF chip being used in the S5.. it would be fair to say that regional LTE limitations are much more likely to be firmware than hardware issues.
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Hi,
I have Samsung galaxy S5 SM-G900V for vreizon ,
Today and for some times I will be in ASIA,
Local bandwith : 2100 mHz
this model cannot connect to the 4G / LTE network in Asia.
But i have iphone 5s Verizon , at Asia local can connect 4G / LTE
I don't know , why galaxy S5 SM-G900V Can't connect 4G / LTE for Asia
I have root my galaxy S5 SM-G900V,
But i don't know how can do it ....
Many thanks for your help and support...

terry3610 said:
I don't know , why galaxy S5 SM-G900V Can't connect 4G / LTE for Asia
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That seems off topic to this thread, so you should start a new one if you have remaining questions.
You didn't give full details or even name the Asian carrier.. but this is probably the case -
Some iPhone 5s variants support both HSPA+ 2100 and FDD-LTE 2100. The TMobile S5 does as well. But the Verizon S5 only supports HSPA+ 2100, not FDD-LTE 2100. The hardware is almost certainly capable of doing so, but Verizon decided to restrict that band on their S5. Presumably to deter carrier churn. It looks like Verizon only enabled LTE on 700 /1700 for the 900V.
Blame Verizon. AFAIK you won't be able to use the Verizon S5 on that band unless someone modifies the firmware.
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Samsung S 5 LTE problem

Guys bought a Samsung Galaxy S5 SM-G900V ( white color brought from abroad from Verizon USA ) and it is on stock rom+firmware and Android 4.4.2
It shows LTE option in Mobile Networks, but I called Warid ( the service provider in my country ) and they said that Samsung S5 is not supported with Warid LTE as Warid 4G and LTE needs 1800MHz which my phone version doesn't have.
Here is the specs link:
http://www.verizonwireless.com/smartphones/galaxy-s-5/
The specs don't mention 1800MHz LTE band whereas the G900F version does have this band.
So am I completely out of luck, or can I install a custom ROM/Firmware/Radio to change my cell to SM-G900F or somehow enable 1800MHz frequency by some manipulation/hack/patch or is there no chance???
Thanks in advance!

No chance, its a hardware thing.
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Rakuu said:
No chance, its a hardware thing.
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Thanks for the reply, if it is indeed a hardware restriction then what would you say about this thread and this post in particular:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56520513&postcount=517
This guy has the same phone and version as my S5.
It seems we can enable the LTE bands with some patience and work, should I try this on my phone or is it not worth it???
Thanks!

vxdesigns said:
Thanks for the reply, if it is indeed a hardware restriction then what would you say about this thread and this post in particular:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56520513&postcount=517
This guy has the same phone and version as my S5.
It seems we can enable the LTE bands with some patience and work, should I try this on my phone or is it not worth it???
Thanks!
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Its worth a shot i guess, i was going based of what id seen which was people saying youre stuck with the bands you have. I must've been wrong though, i appologize for misleading you if that is the case.
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What Galaxy S5 version should i buy?

Hi people! I have these versions of the Galaxy S5 available to buy at the same price, all sim-unlocked:
SM-G900A
SM-G900F
SM-G900M
I live in Argentina, and the LTE bands available here are 4 (AWS, 1700) and 28 (APT700, 700 MHz), so both SM-G900A and SM-G900M should connect to 4G.
But i read that the SM-900A has a locked bootloader so i cant upgrade it to Cyanogenmod or other non-official roms, which i will do for sure. In the other hand, the SM-G900F is not compatible with argentinian LTE bands but i read that i can unlock the bands rooting the phone and using QPST.
I will use non-official roms and stock-based modified roms, so, what version should you recommend? i read that SM-G900F is compatible with mostly non-official roms, while SM-G900M is only compatible with certain roms. So, i should buy the SM-G900F and unlock the LTE bands or buy the SM-G900M for the unlocked bands and resign using some roms?
Edit: i have disponible at the same price, the Sm-G901F lte-a version, but there isn't too much info about this version.
Help please! Thanks in advance.

None! I have a galaxy s5 and regret it. Dont buy samsung...
Wifi problems, Android 5.0 ? why not update it... Phone gets ultra hot after 5.0. Lag deluxe.
Samsung is notorious for not updating their phones. They have like 3 million ROMS and all look different. Different functions, icons and layout. Stupid company that doesent deserve anyone's money.
sorry for appearing butthurt, but just fed up with this s****.

Fenrisulven_ said:
None! I have a galaxy s5 and regret it. Dont buy samsung...
Wifi problems, Android 5.0 ? why not update it... Phone gets ultra hot after 5.0. Lag deluxe.
Samsung is notorious for not updating their phones. They have like 3 million ROMS and all look different. Different functions, icons and layout. Stupid company that doesent deserve anyone's money.
sorry for appearing butthurt, but just fed up with this s****.
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I'm starting to totally agree with you.. For sure next phone will be motorola, oneplus or nexus for stock esxperience

igorescu04 said:
I'm starting to totally agree with you.. For sure next phone will be motorola, oneplus or nexus for stock esxperience
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Yes. Motorola updates their phones. Nexus is nice too, but Nexus 5 was to old and that's the reason i chose galaxy S5.

I recommend G900F. Samsung's S5 is a great phone! I don't really agree with people talking about the lags, blah blah blah. I have this s5 (G900F) and I love it! Go on and try it, I hope you love it too

Thanks! But what phone i should buy? Should i wait and buy the LG G4?

What are your other options besides samsung? I upgraded from s3 to s5+(sm-g901f) and i have mixed feelings about it: fast smartphone, good camera and display vs unimpressive battery life and hot overall device. Btw i'm on 5.0.2 stock rom.
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vader20 said:
What are your other options besides samsung? I upgraded from s3 to s5+(sm-g901f) and i have mixed feelings about it: fast smartphone, good camera and display vs unimpressive battery life and hot overall device. Btw i'm on 5.0.2 stock rom.
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Thanks, my other options are the LG G4. I think that the SM-G901F don't have the LTE bands of my country :/

Have you tried asking one of your local mobile network operators if the s5+ can connect to lte in your country?
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vader20 said:
Have you tried asking one of your local mobile network operators if the s5+ can connect to lte in your country?
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Hi, the customer service is REALLY bad here, but i read the SM-G901F specifications and the bands used here are not compatible. I think i'm getting a LG G4, it's a little more expensive but it have unlockable bootloader and is compatible with all LTE bands, plus not have heating problems.

Go for it! You pay a little more for better camera, specs and know for sure it will work with LTE in your country.
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I've been through this before debating which variant packs the most useful features, and I've ended up with a SM-G900T.
It is the T-Mobile version; it has all the LTE bands (compared to sm-g900a, f, and m combined), HSDPA 1700, plus natively unlocked bootloaders. It has been running CM12.1 like a champ, and I love this phone!

Commodore 64 said:
I've been through this before debating which variant packs the most useful features, and I've ended up with a SM-G900T.
It is the T-Mobile version; it has all the LTE bands (compared to sm-g900a, f, and m combined), HSDPA 1700, plus natively unlocked bootloaders. It has been running CM12.1 like a champ, and I love this phone!
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Thanks for the answer! Unluckily he SM-G900T version is not available here, only the ones that i listed and the SM-G900H but it's only 3G and have an exynos processor that i don't like haha.