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[SUCCESS!!] AT&T Note 2 can run International N7105 firmware!!!

[UPDATE:] Confirmed to work!
Without going into too much detail here (you can check out the full post in the AT&T Note II dev section here), my theory described below does in fact work as I postulated. However, it doesn't seem to work when using PC Odin (Mobile Odin may be a different story).
The basic process goes something like this though:
1. Download CWM/TWRP flashable stock N7105 firmware here.
2. Download the AT&T/Rogers modem from here.
3. Use custom recovery to flash the N7105 firmware. Confirmed to work with TWRP and CWM.
4. Flash the modem.
5. Profit!
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So, correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding of the differences between the international N7100 and the AT&T Note 2 (whatever model number that ends up being), is that the AT&T version has an LTE modem compatible with 700/1700 mhz LTE, but apart from that, the rest of the device is exactly the same as the international version. In other words, they are both Exynos devices with separate LTE chips, unlike the first generation where the international unlocked Note was an Exynos device, and the AT&T version was a Qualcomm device for LTE compatibility.
So, with that in mind, what's the betting that the international firmware is 100% compatible with the AT&T Note 2 (minus the modem)? Kinda like how the original Galaxy Tab 7" international firmware was 100% compatible with AT&T's re-branded Galaxy Tab.
So, what I'm really hoping is possible, is to be able to flash the firmware for the International/Unlocked Note 2 (no AT&T bloatware, plus quicker updates), and then flash the modem.bin from the AT&T firmware (so that LTE will work). Best of all worlds! International firmware AND LTE?
Normally I buy imports, because they're usually better in general. However, if what I mention above is possible, I wouldn't really mind owning an AT&T branded Note 2, while rocking an international/unlocked frankenfirmware.
What do you guys think? Is this a sound theory? Or am I just hoping for the impossible...
Ultimately, I'm just looking forward to the day that OEM's begin making unlocked multi-band LTE devices with compatibility for both Europe and America/Canada (and Asia). But that may never happen...
EDIT: The following is a response from another thread which more clearly illustrates what I hope we can accomplish here.
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so you CAN run a international rom then just flash a at&t modem?
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I'm not sure yet. That's why I started that other thread. It's my theory and hope that you can flash international firmware onto (some) of the domestic North American Note 2's (including Canadian versions).
Just as an example, and I think I may have briefly touched on this in the other thread, take a look at the original Galaxy Tab (7 inch).
The international version of that device, available everywhere else around the world, was able to function as a GSM phone right out of the box.
The domestic carrier versions of the same device did not offer phone functionality at all, and were basically locked down, pay-as-you-go only, data-only, worthless (but expensive) pieces of crap! Unfortunately, if you had a CDMA version (Sprint, Verizon, US Cellular, etc.), you were totally out of luck, because the chipsets were different (or at least the modem firmware), and not compatible with the international firmware. However, the GSM US models were an exception, especially the AT&T version, and here's why:
With the very slight exception of the T-Mobile version (which used a custom UMTS modem for its own 1700mhz AWS band), the North American GSM Galaxy Tab's had -exactly- the same hardware, transistor for transistor. As such, if you bought an AT&T branded Tab (as I did), and you didn't like your carrier dictating to you what features you could or couldn't have on your device (which I didn't), you could give them a big fat middle finger by simply flashing the international firmware in all its unlocked feature-full glory.
With the T-Mobile version, it was slightly different due to the custom modem. If you simply flashed the international firmware and just left it at that, phone functionality would work fine, but you wouldn't have 3G functionality (because the international firmware didn't support 1700mhz AWS), so you'd be stuck on EDGE. However, if you wanted 3G, all you had to do was use Mobile Odin to flash the T-Mobile specific modem.bin, and off you went (minus working phone functionality). You had to flip flop between two modems, depending on your needs, but it was an OK workaround.
So anyway, this all gets me back to the Note 2 of today. As I mention in the other thread, seeing as how the North American Note 2's are almost identical to their international counterparts, with the major exceptions being the radio hardware and modem firmware, shouldn't it then be possible to get international firmware working on a domestic version?
The first step would be to see if you could even flash international firmware onto a domestic Note 2 and get the thing to even boot up.
Assuming that's possible, and say you have limited cellular functionality (if any at all!), with perhaps only WiFi working or something, then the next step would be to extract the modem.bin from the carrier-specific firmware, and then flash that over the international firmware.
Hopefully, theoretically, that should get you up and running!
So to break it down, here's what I would plan to do:
WARNING!!! The following is just an idea for an experiment! Unless you know what you are doing, and are curious about testing this for yourself, DO NOT perform these steps unless you want a nice new brick!
I plan to use an AT&T Note 2 due to the fact that it bears the closest hardware resemblance to the international N7105. The only difference between the two, afaik, are the LTE radios and firmware.
1. Obtain firmware image of AT&T Note 2, probably from somewhere like Sammobile.
2. Extract modem.bin from carrier firmware and create CWM flashable .zip
3. Use Odin to flash stock N7105 international firmware.
4. Assuming step 3 works, and you're able to boot up fully, it's likely that most (if not all) wireless connectivity will not be working. WiFi might still work. So, if we make it to this step, the next step would be use the Note 2 Toolkit to root and flash CWM recovery.
5. Once CWM is installed, flash the custom .zip with the AT&T modem.bin inside of it.
6. Assuming this all works, profit! You now have an international N7105 Note 2, with all the development support of the international community, no AT&T bloatware, and working domestic LTE!
At least, that's the hope...
Please, developers, I'd like your input on this if you think this seems legit, or if it's even possible.

Chances are, you will have to root to do that... If you root then why bother? More than likely you will get the updates from here and don't have to worry about it...

Tidbits said:
Chances are, you will have to root to do that... If you root then why bother? More than likely you will get the updates from here and don't have to worry about it...
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I always root. I have never owned an Android device that I haven't rooted.
Besides, going the root method, and then deleting bloat can get messy. I prefer to just start with a clean slate in the first place, hence the int'l firmware flash.

This is what I'm leaning/hoping for as well. I like tbr support of international note better than the att note but the s3 changed it... plus if both get lte I bet the international would be better at turning on/lte when needed
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Above all else, I'm hoping that this will bring the development community together more than anything else. I mean, historically it's been, you have the international (rest of the world) development, and then you have the North American development. Inevitably, the international development has been WAY bigger and received WAY more community support.
With any luck, if the AT&T and international version of the Note 2 differ only in their modem hardware, their firmware (and thus development) should be interchangeable! That would be awesome!

whats the lte situation with gs3? its probably the same with note
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bobyboby said:
whats the lte situation with gs3? its probably the same with note
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never mind, the domestic gs3 has dual core snapdragon, just checked

ONLY advantage of getting Itl version to me is I get my grubby hands on it a month or so earlier...depending on when Sprint drops.

Right when I'm about to give up, I find this thread and know that there was a person who's in the same interest as I am.
I started another thread days ago asking about this, but it's not of the major interests in the forum seemingly.
Anyway, with much more info we have now compared to when it was Spet, do we have more or less hope in this possibility? If it is a viable operation, getting T-mobile's Note II is even a better idea because it's more versatile band-wise, given that people believe that T889 supports AT&T's UMTS bands as well as AT&T's LTE bands. Of course, this doesn't matter if you are gonna use AT&T majorly and wants the subsidized price from ATT.
Hopefully we can keep this thread alive and wait to see if anyone's gonna be able to flash N7100 rom on to i-317. Actually, since T889 is on sale now already, someone might be trying to do this on the TMO's version of Note 2!

We need to keep this thread alive very interesting op . I to was wondering if this possible if so thats worth a nice donation to whoever figures it out first.
Apple needs to take 2 take Notes!

Uhhh, the N7100 doesn't even have an LTE antenna...
That's the N7105..

exparanoia said:
Uhhh, the N7100 doesn't even have an LTE antenna...
That's the N7105..
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Very tasteful perception and insight.

exparanoia said:
Uhhh, the N7100 doesn't even have an LTE antenna...
That's the N7105..
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Read my OP more carefully... I know/own the N7100 doesn't have LTE, and I know/don't own the N7105 is the one with the LTE hardware.
My whole point with this thread wasn't to see whether flashing N7100 firmware onto a domestic GSM/LTE would work or not.
The point was to see if flashing N7105 firmware was possible, and then separately flashing the proper modem.bin from a domestic GSM/LTE would possibly get it fully functional.
Effectively, theoretically, hopefully, this would be like having an unlocked N7105 with domestic North American GSM/LTE support.
Zero carrier bloat and 100% international dev support.
As far as anyone can really tell at this point (correct me if I'm wrong), all versions of the Note 2, whether GSM/HSPA+, GSM/LTE, or CDMA/LTE, are all identical to each other from a hardware standpoint, with the exceptions of their radios. As such, from a software/firmware standpoint, theoretically all different firmware builds should be interchangeable from one device to another; the only thing that you would have to flash separately as an additional step, is the modem.bin specific to whichever device you happen to have.

I was also told so. But as I dig deeper, I discovered another hardware difference. Looks like domestic (US) note 2's do not have pre-installed wireless charging pins. It might seem to be minor difference but i think it means a lot. Because I assume wireless charging requires software support, and you can see in that wireless charging DIY thread, when you put a modified N7100 onto charger, the OS pops up wireless charging confirmation. If domestic Note 2's do not have this pre-installed pin, it's very likely that they are not natively supporting Wireless Charging feature, and that should require some modification to the OS.

Yes they do have wireless charging pins.
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The att note will have the awful awful carrier logo in the notification bar that the International version thankfully doesn't have. That's reason enough for me.
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Tidbits said:
Yes they do have wireless charging pins.
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Not any of the two Sprint version I've seen so far.

This one does but it's a T-Mobile version.
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LTE needs a LTE chip to be functional. It's not something software can handle.
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Leechoonhwee said:
LTE needs a LTE chip to be functional. It's not something software can handle.
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Yes I know that. You're missing the point. Read the first post again carefully.

*bump* Anyone with further insights?

N7100 HSPA+ speed with ATT

Just curious what kind of speed (download and upload) are people getting on AT&T using the N7100?
Screen capture of the speed test would be very appreciated.
Thanks!!

I'm in southern California

Scary!

Ngambek2003 said:
Just curious what kind of speed (download and upload) are people getting on AT&T using the N7100?
Screen capture of the speed test would be very appreciated.
Thanks!!
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seems like you have AT&T, you might want to just want the 5 days for the LTE version

Scythe024 said:
seems like you have AT&T, you might want to just want the 5 days for the LTE version
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This right here is the only reason I'm interested in the AT&T Note 2.

Scythe024 said:
seems like you have AT&T, you might want to just want the 5 days for the LTE version
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So far there's no sign of the white version for ATT. And updates seem to be much slower getting to ATT phones. I have the ATT Galaxy S3 and no Jelly Bean yet. That's why I'm considering the international version instead. Plus there's a good deal on newegg now for 589.

Ngambek2003 said:
So far there's no sign of the white version for ATT. And updates seem to be much slower getting to ATT phones. I have the ATT Galaxy S3 and no Jelly Bean yet. That's why I'm considering the international version instead. Plus there's a good deal on newegg now for 589.
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You should read through the link in my post above you...

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
You should read through the link in my post above you...
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so you CAN run a international rom then just flash a at&t modem?

Anybody else with speed test results?
Thanks!!

Scythe024 said:
so you CAN run a international rom then just flash a at&t modem?
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I'm not sure yet. That's why I started that other thread. It's my theory and hope that you can flash international firmware onto (some) of the domestic North American Note 2's (including Canadian versions).
Just as an example, and I think I may have briefly touch on this in the other thread, take a look at the original Galaxy Tab (7 inch).
The international version of that device, available everywhere else around the world, was able to function as a phone out of the box.
The domestic carrier versions of the same device did not offer phone functionality at all, and were basically locked down, pay-as-you-go only, data-only, worthless (but expensive) pieces of crap! Unfortunately, if you had a CDMA version (Sprint, Verizon, US Cellular, etc.), you were totally out of luck, because the chipsets were different (or at least the modem firmware), and not compatible with the international firmware. However, the GSM US models were an exception, especially the AT&T version, and here's why:
With the very slight exception of the T-Mobile version (which used a custom UMTS modem for its own 1700mhz AWS band), the North American GSM Galaxy Tab's had -exactly- the same hardware, transistor for transistor. As such, if you bought an AT&T branded Tab (as I did), and you didn't like your carrier dictating to you what features you could or couldn't have on your device (which I didn't), you could give them a big fat middle finger by simply flashing the international firmware in all its unlocked feature-full glory.
With the T-Mobile version, it was slightly different due to the custom modem. If you simply flashed the international firmware and just left it at that, phone functionality would work fine, but you wouldn't have 3G functionality (because the international firmware didn't support 1700mhz AWS), so you'd be stuck on EDGE. However, if you wanted 3G, all you had to do was use Mobile Odin to flash the T-Mobile specific modem.bin, and off you went (minus working phone functionality). You had to flip flop between two modems, depending on your needs, but it was an OK workaround.
So anyway, this all gets me back to the Note 2 of today. As I mention in the other thread, seeing as how the North American Note 2's are almost identical to their international counterparts, with the major exceptions being the radio hardware and modem firmware, shouldn't it then be possible to get international firmware working on a domestic version?
The first step would be to see if you could even flash international firmware onto a domestic Note 2 and get the thing to even boot up.
Assuming that's possible, and say you have limited cellular functionality (if any at all!), with perhaps only WiFi working or something, then the next step would be to extract the modem.bin from the carrier-specific firmware, and then flash that over the international firmware.
Hopefully, theoretically, that should get you up and running!

*bump*. Anyone else care to share their results?
Thanks

San Francisco:

Simi Valley, CA.

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Here are mine.

i wont go with the at&t version, becacuse as soon as my contract end early next year im switching to straight talk. i dont want to stuck on another contract again.
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another test i did just now, since all my other tests are early morning.
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What APN settings are you all using for your N7100 on AT&T?

+1 ^^^

Dallas, TX area
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Unlocked/International Version for use with US/GSM Carrier

I would definitely prefer an unbranded phone, usually that means 'International' model? Any suggestions on where I should be looking to buy one?
Here on "pre-order launch" day, the only offers I see are for carrier branded phones.
In case I've made an error in logic, I'll note what I'm trying to do: I use a MVNO GSM carrier with an unlimited data plan, so I'm looking for a "GSM" S7-EDGE that is carrier unlocked. I'll check the LTE bands and all... the question is, where to buy one of these?

Not sure on international models however you'll want to check out tmobile. There always unbranded and I believe I read somewhere it has all 4 bands except cmda? Can't confirm the cmda one. Also the bootloader are unlocked.

Expansys and eBay are your best bets when the time comes
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Shoulon said:
Not sure on international models however you'll want to check out tmobile. There always unbranded and I believe I read somewhere it has all 4 bands except cmda? Can't confirm the cmda one. Also the bootloader are unlocked.
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TMOBILE phones are not Unbranded at all - they include a bunch of bloat and their branding is all over the software in their phones - I don't think they put the name TMOBILE on the phone itself, but I thnk Unbranded means much more than just that. I am not meaning to criticize, just pointing out the fact that I don't think TMOBILE Phones could be considered unbranded.
Having said that, they do work beautifully on other compatible networks.

Just preordered my Samsung Galaxy S7 (930T). Hopefully this T-Mobile phone will get rooted quick. I'm done with AT&T phones.... paid outright, and will unlock through T-Mobile....

mocsab said:
TMOBILE phones are not Unbranded at all - they include a bunch of bloat and their branding is all over the software in their phones - I don't think they put the name TMOBILE on the phone itself, but I thnk Unbranded means much more than just that. I am not meaning to criticize, just pointing out the fact that I don't think TMOBILE Phones could be considered unbranded.
Having said that, they do work beautifully on other compatible networks.
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He might be talking about the international versions and not the US version.
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Tidbits said:
He might be talking about the international versions and not the US version.
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My Bad... thanks for the heads up

Here's an unlocked probably European phone from Expansys
http://www.expansys-usa.com/samsung-galaxy-s7-unlocked-32gb-black-onyx-288135/
I think it's the European because it's listed as an Octa core (Processor: Octa-Core / 2.3 GHz Quad + 1.6 GHz Quad) if I'm not mistaken the SD820 isn't Octa but the Exynos is and Europe is supposed to be getting Exynos.

If those bands are correct that is very limiting. I'd still hold out and wait to see the full support listing.
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Isn't that you can just use qualcomm's QXDM,QPST and DFS to unlock all the band? Just need have root first.

maybe, but you should rely on it. Let's just say for example Samsung changes how things are in this version or we can't find an exploit for 6 months to a 1 year? That's just me though. I'd rather be safe than sorry.

So I was planning to get the international version (Exynos) Galaxy S7 Edge, but After using the Live Chat on Samsung website, they told me as of today the International Version of S7 DOESN"T support the Samsung Pay yet.... any ideas?

I am trying to unlock one for my family member from t mobile. Anyway to unlock it for international use without paying a fortune?
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Is it true what they are saying that when you first put the sim in the phone and turn it on it locks itself to that carrier?? SO IF I PUT IN att sim in tmobile phone it will be locked to att ?

UnixSlayer said:
Just preordered my Samsung Galaxy S7 (930T). Hopefully this T-Mobile phone will get rooted quick. I'm done with AT&T phones.... paid outright, and will unlock through T-Mobile....
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Sorry to break it to you but the bootloader on the TMO S7 Edge is locked down now like ATT and Verizon without root available
"And on that bombshell!"
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Check out the Canadian version sm-g935w8. It has exynos, supports samsung pay and can be rooted. The specs say it supports all the north American lte bands. If you buy one from a Canadian samsung experience store, it comes with factory unlock codes
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I'm getting an Exynos S7 Edge and am thinking of installing an unbranded Rom from Sammobile, any idea which?
I'm in Australia, so no Samsung Pay yet, but it could be handy.
I'm sure certain European Roms get updates sooner too.

Ok, checked Sammobile again and this looks safe. Looks to be an unbranded Australian rom.
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/download/67083/G935FXXU1APAW_G935FXSA1APAW_XSA/

World S8/8+ = 4gb RAM 64gb ROM -vs- China S8/8+ = 6gb RAM 128gb ROM

Ouch! Why will there be a difference?
"China to Get High-End Version of Galaxy S8+ with 6GB RAM & 128GB ROM"
Could it be that the market has more competitive Phone choices?

I was looking for the 128Gb version because I kept seeing it would be released and the only version Tmobile is releasing is the 64Gb version. Seemed odd.

I think its retarded too, they should of just sold one model (6GB RAM/128GB) worldwide. When I had a Mate 9, I had to buy the CHN version for 6/128 compared to the normal 4/64. I might have to do it again if the CHN version supports all of TMO LTE bands. One thing I've experienced with CHN vs US phones is I get better reception with the US version even though the CHN supports all of TMO bands.

It's costs, it's probably cheaper over there, the price increase for 6gb/128gb in the UK would make the S8+ nearly 1000 quid!!!!!

Don't know what's going on... I'm in China and will hopefully grab one once they are up for sale... Worries me that there are no pre orders yet. Also... Needs to have an exact HK variant. If they aren't the same model as the HK variant, then I won't be able to exchange firmware, and then there is no way I will put myself through the torture of a phone without Google.NO WAY! I guess I'd wait until summer to pick up the 4gb version in my home country... Probably the metaphorical smoke will have cleared by then and things will have calmed down a bit to see what battery life is like. Worried I'll purchase another​ battery lemon like what happened to my 6p... Man, that battery died in a year and a bit.

Tangopro said:
Ouch! Why will there be a difference?
"China to Get High-End Version of Galaxy S8+ with 6GB RAM & 128GB ROM"
Could it be that the market has more competitive Phone choices?
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Chinese model = no warranty so thats a deal breaker for me
6GB vs 4GB RAM you probably wont notice the difference in real world use
You can buy a 128GB SD card for much less than the difference in RRP between world and chinese models
Finally will the chinese model support the LTE bands required for your region and carrier?
Too many unknowns for me

it my have a global modem that supports all bands (bar cdma in the sd 835). agree, you wont notice much of a difference between 4/6 gb...

Will 6gb affect battery life in a negative way? I still doubt this will happen, but nonetheless, don't mind investigating thoughts on this matter.

Things to remember if you get the CHN version is no warranty, stuck on CHN ROM unless you root and install a different ROM and possible no wifi calling if your US carrier supports it.

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it my have a global modem that supports all bands (bar cdma in the sd 835). agree, you wont notice much of a difference between 4/6 gb...
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Things to remember if you get the CHN version is no warranty, stuck on CHN ROM unless you root and install a different ROM and possible no wifi calling if your US carrier supports it.
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I agree that being stuck on CHN firmware is a horror show if you are not a Mandarin/Chinese language user.
From another perspective, so long as there is a HK firmware for SAME model number, you should be able to change firmware to HK firmware from CHN Firmware using ODIN. Pretty simple process. I have managed to do this on several Samsung phones no worries. Only with the C7 (2016) did I recently come across some weirdness that was solved by an XDA member who prescribed a relatively painless ordering of ODIN processes.
However, Samsung used to have weird China only models that did not have a HK firmware variant... which completely sucked - My Note 4, SN-9108v was a horrible experience due to this firmware and model isolation practice. Also, there are some phones that are only sold in China and only come again with Chinese Firmware (possibly the C9 pro (2017) is an example - can't remember). If Samsung have chosen the same isolationist Chinese model practice for s8, then avoid it like the plague... You'll be buying into a joyless and expensive sans google experience that will only be tolerable with decent Mandarin skills to enjoy the plethora of Chinese app store equivalents to google.
At this stage, I cannot find any reliable links to Chinese and HK model numbers. Perhaps a Chinese based Mandarin XDA user can clarify. I am very interested in preordering this mythical Chinese s8+, but I am not in the industry and am a little time poor in terms of being able to research this. There certainly seems to be very little reputable information (in English) or easily found reputable information (via translate) that details exactly when or how pre-orders in China or HK will operate. Just unsubstantiated re-reported links and news stories about the 6Gb variant and blah blah blah.
Would be really great to hear from someone legitimately more informed than me in this matter.
Cheers!

http://www.samsung.com/sec/smartphones/galaxy-s8-plus-g955/SM-G955NZKESKO/
128gb available in Korea ... interesting. Fingers crossed this type of deal pops up in China (and importantly, HK).
SM-G955NZKESKO/

That is because China has many local brands provide adequate device with only one third price. If you can maximum your specks. You will fail there!

Nope. I'm off the Sammy train. Thinking Xperia xz premium

Read an article that says Samsung is mulling over bringing the 6Gb to the US and other markets besides China / Korea. If this happens I would like to know who made the original not to release in other markets so I can kick then in the nuts.

I don't care if it is 4GB or 6. Just so long as it is NOT Snapdragon. Speed tests seem to already be confirming that the typical $#!++y ram management is still present in the Snapdragon S8 and S8+ phones. Also; If I were to buy the Snapdragon model, I would not be able to activate mobile hot spot on Cricket. You can with International phones (Exynos).

I wonder how much extra battery the 6gb version uses. I remember the ram upgrade ont he Uni used to eat battery.

YellowGTO said:
I wonder how much extra battery the 6gb version uses. I remember the ram upgrade ont he Uni used to eat battery.
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I have 6gb ram 955N and battery is fine ^^

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http://www.samsung.com/sec/smartphones/galaxy-s8-plus-g955/SM-G955NZKESKO/
128gb available in Korea ... interesting. Fingers crossed this type of deal pops up in China (and importantly, HK).
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oh man reading the specs this has all global LTE bands activated including the infamous European BAND 20 that most Asian variants have traditionally not supported!
may get my korean mate to buy over there and bring over. the korean rom will have english as an option as well as play store

YellowGTO said:
I wonder how much extra battery the 6gb version uses. I remember the ram upgrade ont he Uni used to eat battery.
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oh man reading the specs this has all global LTE bands activated including the infamous European BAND 20 that most Asian variants have traditionally not supported!
may get my korean mate to buy over there and bring over. the korean rom will have english as an option as well as play store
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Yes, if you know an app which can see band avaible, i could see you.
For the GPS : yes it do glonass/beido/ and galileo ^^
Fast phone.

androidrouen said:
Yes, if you know an app which can see band avaible, i could see you.
For the GPS : yes it do glonass/beido/ and galileo ^^
Fast phone.
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that link lists all the supported bands under spec. goggle translate teh page on chrome and go down to full specs

Which Note 4 Verision to buy?

I plan on buying a Note 4 outright. I don't want the note 5 (no ext memory), nor the note 8 (won't have removable battery). I don't trust LG, and no one else has a removable battery with high end specs. So I am left with the Note 4...but Swappa has a billion versions. Which version do I buy if I want
1. Unlocked Bootloader (custom recovery)
2. Stock Android/CM/AOSP Based Roms (pretty sure Snapdragon models are the only ones that support this)
3. Works on Verizon (All should work on Verizon because LTE is naturally unlocked)
4. Is this phone worth it anyway?

I can answer only your last question because I'm running stock ROM and I'm pretty satisfied. Before Note 4 (Snapdragon) I had Note 1 and I tried almost every ROM I found here on XDA. Only one thing I can tell you. If you need the best battery life, stay with stock. Otherwise depend on your preferences. But this machine is still pretty damn good. Big screen, big resolution, expandable memory, removable battery and of course the S pen. For this money you got better phone than many newer much expensive models. Only thing you should look is a good original battery. Any other from Aliexpress or from other supplier can't beat the original.

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I can answer only your last question because I'm running stock ROM and I'm pretty satisfied. Before Note 4 (Snapdragon) I had Note 1 and I tried almost every ROM I found here on XDA. Only one thing I can tell you. If you need the best battery life, stay with stock. Otherwise depend on your preferences. But this machine is still pretty damn good. Big screen, big resolution, expandable memory, removable battery and of course the S pen. For this money you got better phone than many newer much expensive models. Only thing you should look is a good original battery. Any other from Aliexpress or from other supplier can't beat the original.
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thank you for your pretty quick reply.
I just realized how stupid battery life sounds when I can buy a Grade S+ Note 4 battery from a parts website for a little over 8 dollars each. I don't think I can link other websites or not but there is a parts website where I buy all my replacement screens and stuff from.
In any case, does this phone have a good Cyanogenmod Rom? I would prefer CM, though I could live with stock TW. Also, custom recovery? Which Snapdragon model should I buy?
Swappa has these models available:
N910V Verizon
N910P Sprint
N910T T-Mobile
N910A ATT
and US Cellular

Balian67 said:
I just realized how stupid battery life sounds when I can buy a Grade S+ Note 4 battery from a parts website for a little over 8 dollars each.
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Probably you are right, but I personally don't like to carry on pockets full of batteries. My old Note 1 had to be charged 3 times a day with custom ROMs and slightly heavy usage. No games, only gps and gprs/wifi constantly on and some business apps.
As far as I know there is only one Snapdragon model. I'm not in the states so I really don't know the difference. But I think that only difference is in exsynos or snapdragon and carrier's bloatware. Maybe I'm wrong, but that question shoul answer someone from USA who have or had Note 4.

Yeah, if you want a device that works with Verizon then the Note 4 Verizon variant (N910V) is the device for you. As the other international variants both the N910F, N910C and N910U won't operate on Verizon's CDMA LTE/4G bands.

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Yeah, if you want a device that works with Verizon then the Note 4 Verizon variant (N910V) is the device for you. As the other international variants both the N910F, N910C and N910U won't operate on Verizon's CDMA LTE/4G bands.
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Please, don't spread this misinformation anymore.
LTE is a governed technology by the Fair Trade Commission (FTC). In order to use LTE as a cell provider you have to do two things.
1. Agree to have phones unlocked for ALL Networks
2. Release the phone from your network once the phone is paid off.
ALL LTE phones will work on every other network that has LTE. The one thing you have to do is check which LTE bands each phone has, and the Note 4 has all the LTE bands from all the networks. So yet it will work.
The one reason why I am scared to buy the verizon variant is because Verizon usually locks down the bootloader (different then a network unlock). Making it hard, next to impossible to mod the bootloader and install a custom recovery. Do you know if the Verizon Model has an unlocked bootloader mod (so I can install custom recovery)?

Balian67 said:
Please, don't spread this misinformation anymore.
LTE is a governed technology by the Fair Trade Commission (FTC). In order to use LTE as a cell provider you have to do two things.
1. Agree to have phones unlocked for ALL Networks
2. Release the phone from your network once the phone is paid off.
ALL LTE phones will work on every other network that has LTE. The one thing you have to do is check which LTE bands each phone has, and the Note 4 has all the LTE bands from all the networks. So yet it will work.
The one reason why I am scared to buy the verizon variant is because Verizon usually locks down the bootloader (different then a network unlock). Making it hard, next to impossible to mod the bootloader and install a custom recovery. Do you know if the Verizon Model has an unlocked bootloader mod (so I can install custom recovery)?
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Usually Verizon note 4 comes with locked bootloader. I purchased 2 days ago and unlocked myself it's bootloader by getting some help on XDA any by watching some tutorials on YouTube. But thanks God finally I did it after 4 hours struggle.

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Usually Verizon note 4 comes with locked bootloader. I purchased 2 days ago and unlocked myself it's bootloader by getting some help on XDA any by watching some tutorials on YouTube. But thanks God finally I did it after 4 hours struggle.
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Which model did you buy?
My cousin has a friend who bought the unlocked model. I don't know which model though because there are so many unlocked versions to choose from. None of them are for sale on swappa.com though. So I might have to go to ebay for that.

Balian67 said:
Which model did you buy?
My cousin has a friend who bought the unlocked model. I don't know which model though because there are so many unlocked versions to choose from. None of them are for sale on swappa.com though. So I might have to go to ebay for that.
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Verizon note 4 910V

abrarakram19 said:
Verizon note 4 910V
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So you can confirm that the Note 4's bootloader is unlockable? Did you need a Java card to do it?

Balian67 said:
So you can confirm that the Note 4's bootloader is unlockable? Did you need a Java card to do it?
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Have a look at this link for comple guide.
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Balian67 said:
So you can confirm that the Note 4's bootloader is unlockable? Did you need a Java card to do it?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-verizon/general/note-4-verizon-bootloader-unlock-t3358913

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Have a look at this link for comple guide.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-verizon/general/note-4-verizon-bootloader-unlock-t3358913
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Thank you so much. I won't be worried about what model I buy now. I know that I like AOSP and an Unlocked bootloader and the Verizon one can achieve both. I liked your post.
What I noticed though was there aren't many roms for the (V) variant. Does the verizon phone have AOSP or other ROMS?

Balian67 said:
Thank you so much. I won't be worried about what model I buy now. I know that I like AOSP and an Unlocked bootloader and the Verizon one can achieve both. I liked your post.
What I noticed though was there aren't many roms for the (V) variant. Does the verizon phone have AOSP or other ROMS?
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https://www.grantbarker.com/samsung-galaxy-note-4.html
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https://www.grantbarker.com/samsung-galaxy-note-4.html
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Check above link for all updated roms for all note 4 variants.