HTC One M9+ vs HTC One ME - One (M9+) General

Really torn between the models M9+ and ME (a dual sim variant with almost identical internals and a plastic build). ME does not have a separate forum in XDA as yet. And I cant even believe M9+ is only having a sub forum under M9 given that M9+ is certainly much ahead of M9 in terms of specs. Out here in India the price difference between M9+ and ME is only a couple of thousands bucks (less than USD 50). M9+ is slightly more expensive.
From the time of its release till date (in only a couple of months) the M9+ has dropped it price more than 25%. Is that a matter of concern? Does it mean the phone is really doing a poor job and hence the low demand? On the other hand ME is the latest entrant and the price has not been reduced much so far. But its been there only for a relatively small time. Why there is no 5.1.1. on these phones yet when all other flaghships have already rolled 5.1.1. updates.
In terms of getting better support (from XDA) and owning a more stable phone ( I really dont care about gaming performance) which one do you think will be a better buy? Your advise appreciated.
Also, does having a metal back instead of a plastic back affect the signal receptivity in anyways?

M9+ has better support in XDA, though both are pretty bad. If you are into custom roms & mods, avoid both & go for the regular M9. As for reception, usually plastic phones are better. So they either have the same reception quality (most probably) or the ME a little better.

For me I choose the ME as i was searching for the best Dual SIM out there and the Front is metal which is enough for me
( who cares about back metal while you always put covers or cases )

try the M9PW, which is the M9 dual sim, which is better than the ME

shouk_1987 said:
For me I choose the ME as i was searching for the best Dual SIM out there and the Front is metal which is enough for me
( who cares about back metal while you always put covers or cases )
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I've checked how I could get one HTC M9 ME (nice device BTW), and it's around $500 or over, 499 here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/HTC-One-ME-...rey-FACTORY-UNLOCKED-5-2-3GB-RAM/181808948051
If someone who really cares about the issue, and starts a pledge thread around here (like the m9+ forum part) and when $500 pledge is hit in it, and it really is backed, then I can use that sum to get M9 ME.
If there's enough donation pledge to at least get to that sum on my donation paypal acc, then I'd order one with all the import and EU taxes and start to look at supporting it.
Otherwise, as I'm not supporting devices that I can't test and I've already spent a great deal on m9+, I'd advice to wait for some other developer who gets the M9 One ME and starts looking at it.

tbalden said:
I've checked how I could get one HTC M9 ME (nice device BTW), and it's around $500 or over, 499 here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/HTC-One-ME-...rey-FACTORY-UNLOCKED-5-2-3GB-RAM/181808948051
If someone who really cares about the issue, and starts a pledge thread around here (like the m9+ forum part) and when $500 pledge is hit in it, and it really is backed, then I can use that sum to get M9 ME.
If there's enough donation pledge to at least get to that sum on my donation paypal acc, then I'd order one with all the import and EU taxes and start to look at supporting it.
Otherwise, as I'm not supporting devices that I can't test and I've already spent a great deal on m9+, I'd advice to wait for some other developer who gets the M9 One ME and starts looking at it.
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Thanks. Realizing that the chances of better support are very low for both M9+ and ME I went ahead and purchased a Moto X Play. Waiting for it to arrive.

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HtC HD price

Hey there.I am really interested in thid brand.I,d really like to have one.But I dont know much abouy its price.plz help me.and also i want to know about the life of its battery.Is it cool?or like diamond?
what diamond not good ?
The HD is sold at around 650 Euro in Belgium I heard.
+ 1000 USD - approx 28-29.000 Taiwan Dollar - 7.500 Hong Kong Dollar.
Not taken in account conversion rate but price index of last HTC devices sold around here in Asia.
You can see loads of info related to Prices, locations, release dates etc in the BlackStone vendor wiki http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone_Vendors
If anyone knows more dates and prices say it here
the life of its bbattery is not very good.it dies as soon as possible.and also the body of the cellphone gets dirty soon.
tanx 4 your replies all.keep smiling
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the life of its bbattery is not very good.it dies as soon as possible.and also the body if he cellphone gets dirty soon.
tanx 4 your replies all
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It seems odd that you would say this while like nobody on the planet owns a final version yet. Second, neither the casing nor the battery are equal to that of the Diamond.
Differences: Diamond has a 900MAh battery and the HD has 1350MAh which is equal to that of the Raphael. This gives you 50% more power and according to the specifications this indeed results in the added 50% which I almost agree with. Almost being that the processor and radios are the same as on the Diamond so should consume the same amount of power and that would make 50% increase accurate. However the screen is so much bigger that I doubt it, I expect nothing more than an increase of 35% - 40% and still that's welcome.
Now that my Diamond is configured properly and has the latest software, battery consumption is much lighter and I can easily last a day and a half with it, using regular mailing, some internet and some calling. When only calling, it lasts me two days. Turning it off during the night ups it to three days. A 50% bigger battery would make it last over 4 days in that manner, let's say 2.5 at heavier usage.
Second difference is the back of the unit, which is mostly matte and not glossy, making it much less fingerprint prone (only the front side needs to be polished all the time lol). IPhone and many other touch phones get dirty just as easily. What do you prefer? A matte screen would look worse and scratch much easier because it has a texture.
Looks like avg pricing in the Netherlands will be around 570 euros, which is nice Somehow the Raphael sells for over 600 everywhere in the NL...
In Mexico it will cost $1,400US!!!!!! and it will arrive till next year........
I am sure not buying here.......I asked a friend travelling to London to bring me one cheaper.
If only HD can have a keyboard!!!!
$1400 us?! wow... Tough bargain I just updated the Centralpoint release date as it keeps being pushed (29 oct now contrary to the 21 oct initially), probably to trick people into preordering from them. I guess they won't ship before the first week of November either, like the other NL shops.
Is there any seller in Usa for this phone
thxs
ilordvader said:
Is there any seller in Usa for this phone
thxs
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Check here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone_Vendors
the blackstone is at 649,96 € on this french website : rueducommerce.fr/
it's not so expansive when you compare to the price of Xperia (780€)
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If only HD can have a keyboard!!!!
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just what I thought, this device is absolutely perfect, will be the next Kaiser / Polaris (I think in terms of popularity they´re comparable).
If HTC just released a keyboard version as well...although, there´s the Touch Pro. And imagine, Touch Pro even bigger and heavier, wouldn´t even fit into my pockets *loool*
In Germany it will cost 619,- euros on Amazon.de
http://www.amazon.de/HTC-Blackstone...=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=ce-de&qid=1223587885&sr=8-1
I sent my Touch Pro back, if I get my money back I will buy this one
m.schmidler said:
just what I thought, this device is absolutely perfect, will be the next Kaiser / Polaris (I think in terms of popularity they´re comparable).
If HTC just released a keyboard version as well...although, there´s the Touch Pro. And imagine, Touch Pro even bigger and heavier, wouldn´t even fit into my pockets *loool*
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hahaha LOL
For me using a beautifull/solid/big brick Universal won`t be a problem!
Hope HD w/key can be a reality!
P.d. By the way, Uni fit on my back pocket
I got a Diamond and on that I could really like a keyboard, the additional RAM/SD card slot/etcetera but I liked the Diamond form factor so much I went for that. The Diamond however is very small and as such typing on a keyboard is much easier than on the screen.
The HD however, sports such a huge screen that there is much less need for a keyboard. Also, I think the target audience of the HD really differs from that of the Pro, it is much more iPhone-esque than it is a corporate tool.
for the last few weeks I've just been planning on getting it here: http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php?xProd=1464
£466.98 with US shipping (and tax) included.
what do you guys reckon this is in USD?
i gotta be honest tho, with a device:
being this fast,
having such a large screen,
having such a sharp screen, and
having such a sensitive screen....
so long as I keep using the skin htctoucher and i created for pcmk....i think I can honestly say that I will never even miss a hardware kb for a second.
I had a mogul for a while, then went to vogue (slow, unsensitive, small screen), and i only rarely wish i had a hardware keyboard...
jim256 said:
for the last few weeks I've just been planning on getting it here: http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php?xProd=1464
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have you or anyone had experience importing RF devices into the states? I know the customs/FCC are very strict on importing such devices. I read somewhere someone (importer or exporter) need to declare the FCC ID on the form, if not the devices gets confiscated (that is, not returned to the sender). I am looking to import touch HD, but don't want to lose 800+ dollars.
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have you or anyone had experience importing RF devices into the states? I know the customs/FCC are very strict on importing such devices. I read somewhere someone (importer or exporter) need to declare the FCC ID on the form, if not the devices gets confiscated (that is, not returned to the sender). I am looking to import touch HD, but don't want to lose 800+ dollars.
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hmmm no i personally have not looked into that, but I guess I will be before putting my order in! thx for the heads up
buggybug0 said:
have you or anyone had experience importing RF devices into the states? I know the customs/FCC are very strict on importing such devices. I read somewhere someone (importer or exporter) need to declare the FCC ID on the form, if not the devices gets confiscated (that is, not returned to the sender). I am looking to import touch HD, but don't want to lose 800+ dollars.
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The best way to do that is asking a friend travelling to bring it for you, that way you don´t pay any cent.
Importing I´m sure depends of the qty. of devices you bring, if it´s only one, taxes won´t be that much. And US customs have a trusty/esay way of doing things.

[Q] Buy another HD2 or SENSATION time?

Hi all. I'm asking for the expert opinion of all the xda ogs. I bought an HD2 about 5 months ago off ebay for almost full price. And now it won't start (I tried everything). Sent it to htc repair center in Texas.
Now my question is: If it costs more than 150 to repair the phone, I'll probably just buy a new one instead of repairing it to have better peace of mind. Should I get another HD2, this time brand new from amazon for 299, or should I get an HTC sensation for abouit 540?
I really don't see myself using the dual core cpu that much, but the higher megapixel camera would be much more badass, and I do take alot of pictures.
Any productive opinions are welcome.
You say your HD2 will not start, so did it just start this or were you flashing something and it did this after the flash? If so what were you flashing? I ask this cause it sounds like you have bricked your HD2 and that is fixable for a third of the 150 dollars you suggested.
Now as for your Sensation question I don't really have any advice for you as I am currently wrestling with what device to upgrade too myself. And the Sensation is like one of the top devices I am looking at.
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Hi all. I'm asking for the expert opinion of all the xda ogs. I bought an HD2 about 5 months ago off ebay for almost full price. And now it won't start (I tried everything). Sent it to htc repair center in Texas.
Now my question is: If it costs more than 150 to repair the phone, I'll probably just buy a new one instead of repairing it to have better peace of mind. Should I get another HD2, this time brand new from amazon for 299, or should I get an HTC sensation for abouit 540?
I really don't see myself using the dual core cpu that much, but the higher megapixel camera would be much more badass, and I do take alot of pictures.
Any productive opinions are welcome.
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I have the same question...my HD2 is also gone for repair and I was thinking of selling it..once I get it back...but the problem is HD2 still allows you to do so much...there is no other phone like it quite yet...there is also possibility of DFT still releasing new version of MAGLDR for wp7 mango which you never know, it maybe good enough for daily driver...
I'm in same dilema...still not decided though
However, instead of sensation I was thinking of buying TMO G2X (LG optimus 2x)...You can get a new one for ~ $350-400 on eBay compared to sensation which is almost $500-600 now...
Compared to sensation it has better camera and no death grip issues, while you lose out on High res screen and Sense UI (which is quite good in its 3rd installment but i think I can manage with cm7, as I was using that on my hd2)
blah, seems like the Sensation has way too many issues right now. I wouldn't be able to stand having dust underneath my screen. Or death grip.
At 299 right now, the HD2 seems like the best value. 4.3 inch screen, and I could flash a new rom every week if I wanted.
What I really want is the samsung S2 of course, but it's still almost 700 on amazon.
I just wish they had another phone for about 300 with a bigger screen (I prefer 5 inch lol) and a better camera.
Best advice of all is to wait if I can. Prices will drop quickly, and maybe the next batch of sensations will be better built.
I'm due an upgrade next month (or if O2 won't match/beat Vodafone's tarriffs it'll be in 4 months when I jump ship) and so far the Sensation is the only thing that appeals to me.
Tried one out in CPWH yesterday and was impressed, no lag, no stutters.
That's a UK based version though, and from what people say about the phones over in the US, your carriers add a load of bloat that can affect performance.
My HD2 will go to my fiancee to replace my old HD.
I will miss the ability to make calls without having to go to the home screen, but I'll get used to it.
DPMAce said:
blah, seems like the Sensation has way too many issues right now. I wouldn't be able to stand having dust underneath my screen. Or death grip.
At 299 right now, the HD2 seems like the best value. 4.3 inch screen, and I could flash a new rom every week if I wanted.
What I really want is the samsung S2 of course, but it's still almost 700 on amazon.
I just wish they had another phone for about 300 with a bigger screen (I prefer 5 inch lol) and a better camera.
Best advice of all is to wait if I can. Prices will drop quickly, and maybe the next batch of sensations will be better built.
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HTC Sensations and LG 2X have already sold in Jakarta.
Next week, 23 July, Samsung will launch Galaxy S2 at Pacific Place, Jakarta, with the special price starting from Rp4.1 Mio (USD 500 - 600)
I think it is reasonable price, considering the specs
I remember that I bought HTC Touch HD (Blackstone) at Rp10.5 mio (USD1.100) when it was launched
I heard that Sensation has a death grip issue. So, You might consider waiting till the price of Galaxy S2 drop
Cheers
If you still want to stay with HTC and don't mind a single-core phone, there's always the Desire HD. Same sized screen, but more RAM (same as Sensation but less than SGS2) and newer generation of Snapdragon. It also has a 8MP sensor but I don't know how that compares to the one on the Sensation. It's also about $100 cheaper too. I see one right now that is actually the Inspire 4G but it is unlocked and that is like only $400. I would buy that buy I think my HD2 will last me maybe until the end of this year and then I might move on to Virgin Mobile or something and keep the HD2 as a test phone and for traveling.
DPMAce said:
Hi all. I'm asking for the expert opinion of all the xda ogs. I bought an HD2 about 5 months ago off ebay for almost full price. And now it won't start (I tried everything). Sent it to htc repair center in Texas.
Now my question is: If it costs more than 150 to repair the phone, I'll probably just buy a new one instead of repairing it to have better peace of mind. Should I get another HD2, this time brand new from amazon for 299, or should I get an HTC sensation for abouit 540?
I really don't see myself using the dual core cpu that much, but the higher megapixel camera would be much more badass, and I do take alot of pictures.
Any productive opinions are welcome.
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Man, you can pick up hd2s for less than 200 on Craigslist... why would you spend 150 on a repair?
even sensations go for 350 max... flippin' eck...
Mafioso said:
I have the same question...my HD2 is also gone for repair and I was thinking of selling it..once I get it back...but the problem is HD2 still allows you to do so much...there is no other phone like it quite yet...there is also possibility of DFT still releasing new version of MAGLDR for wp7 mango which you never know, it maybe good enough for daily driver...
I'm in same dilema...still not decided though
However, instead of sensation I was thinking of buying TMO G2X (LG optimus 2x)...You can get a new one for ~ $350-400 on eBay compared to sensation which is almost $500-600 now...
Compared to sensation it has better camera and no death grip issues, while you lose out on High res screen and Sense UI (which is quite good in its 3rd installment but i think I can manage with cm7, as I was using that on my hd2)
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Sensation is far superior to g2x, trust me on this, I've owned both...HD2 is still the most enjoyable experience to be had..

Find 5 or HTC One

I'm looking into a new phone but I'm just not sure if I should get the Find 5 or One. The camera is not a deciding factor for me, battery would mean more. If I read right the Find 5 has a bigger battery, can I assume that means the Oppa also have better battery life?
My second sticking point is, are there any rumors for when 4.2.2 will be released for it?
Third is how is the support for T-Mobile HSPA+ and LTE?
I should go for the HTC One, BTW it will be better supported!
well i guess in the end its all about the price. the find 5 is way more reasonable, at least in europe
the battery might be bigger on the oppo but i think there are some issues with the battery management. thats just what i read in other threads and on the oppo forums - please correct me if im wrong...
i dont have my find 5 yet, but ordered one yesterday. i was unsure between those two as well, but eventually ordered the black find 5 since it will still take some time until the black htc One is on sale.
so if the oppo doesnt work for me i will sell it and get the me the htc one...
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well i guess in the end its all about the price. the find 5 is way more reasonable, at least in europe
the battery might be bigger on the oppo but i think there are some issues with the battery management. thats just what i read in other threads and on the oppo forums - please correct me if im wrong...
i dont have my find 5 yet, but ordered one yesterday. i was unsure between those two as well, but eventually ordered the black find 5 since it will still take some time until the black htc One is on sale.
so if the oppo doesnt work for me i will sell it and get the me the htc one...
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Where did you buy Oppo find 5 in Europe? The only one I found in Europe is on amazon.co.uk and it costs 400£ . Did you manage to find it any cheaper ?
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Where did you buy Oppo find 5 in Europe? The only one I found in Europe is on amazon.co.uk and it costs 400£ . Did you manage to find it any cheaper ?
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on their homepage oppostyle com the 32gb version for 569$ - they ship for free!! (express it says )
Did you have to pay customs etc? (it's shipped from Asia) Cause as far as I know that would add in excess of 20% (of value) to the phone price... And then it simply would not be worth the hassle with customs etc
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shem2409 said:
Did you have to pay customs etc? (it's shipped from Asia) Cause as far as I know that would add in excess of 20% (of value) to the phone price... And then it simply would not be worth the hassle with customs etc
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yes your right maybe its not worth it when extra fees are added...but sometimes you have to pay them and sometimes it just gets through without any extra costs.
i ordered mine two days ago so i hope i don't have to pay custom duties... but even with the 20% added its still about 50€ cheaper than the htc
- not that much but i was just curious and needed a phone...
aliexpress
You can buy Find 5 on Aliexpress for only 530$ btw
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You can buy Find 5 on Aliexpress for only 530$ btw
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Don't recommend Ali
Sent from my Oppo Find 5
Hi Knitler,
In my opinion, the main drawback of the find 5 is its fragility.
The back side of the phone, despite it is very stylish and uncommon (but certainly not as much as the Htc one <3 ), has a very soft plastic.
I owned it since a few weeks and one thing I can say is i'm always trying to be careful on where I place it and how it stands on a desk.
Dust easily scratches the rear side of my poor Oppo and loves lodging into them, especially on the white model
And what is most frustrating than handling the Oppo like it would be a jewel !? Damn, it's just a phone !!
(so if you hesitate, chose the black one )
Otherwise, this smartphone is just a killer plaything
Regarding the battery side, I'm not shure a few milliamps would make the difference on a whole day. In both cases, you would have to charge it every day.
Another interesting point mentionned by brakke97, I believe the One will have a better support.
But, chose the HTC and you will have Mr Everyone's phone
Pixel69 said:
Hi Knitler,
In my opinion, the main drawback of the find 5 is its fragility.
The back side of the phone, despite it is very stylish and uncommon (but certainly not as much as the Htc one <3 ), has a very soft plastic.
I owned it since a few weeks and one thing I can say is i'm always trying to be careful on where I place it and how it stands on a desk.
Dust easily scratches the rear side of my poor Oppo and loves lodging into them, especially on the white model
And what is most frustrating than handling the Oppo like it would be a jewel !? Damn, it's just a phone !!
(so if you hesitate, chose the black one )
Otherwise, this smartphone is just a killer plaything
Regarding the battery side, I'm not shure a few milliamps would make the difference on a whole day. In both cases, you would have to charge it every day.
Another interesting point mentionned by brakke97, I believe the One will have a better support.
But, chose the HTC and you will have Mr Everyone's phone
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It's not fragile at all, it's very well built. Soft plastic does NOT make a phone fragile, it makes it impact resistant!
I hate how people constantly ignorantly bash plastic as a build material. Properly engineered plastics (as found in Samsungs and the Oppo) are more impact resistant and durable than any other material available for a phone. I speak this from experience - I would be blind in one eye if not for polycarbonate plastic's impact resistance.
I'd say find 5 if your on a budget,and HTC's aren't the best choice if battery life is a concern...
I would choose Oppo find 5. There are many updates from Oppo and the phone is fantastic.
I am sure HTC one will have great support, but what about the locked bootloader? You will lose warranty as soon as you unlock it. So think twice before you choose a phone. Oppo is budget phone while HTC is costlier one. I think we should encourage Oppo so that they will release much more devices in the future.
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To be honest I don't see how the price makes any difference here:
HTC One price 32gb (sim unlocked, bootloader locked )- 575$
64gb (sim and bootloader unlocked) - 650$
Oppo Find 5 16gb -500$ (but you can't really compare to any of the above due to storage)
32gb- 569$
So from what I can see the price difference is 6$ when comparing the 32gb units.
Now depending on where you live you might be able to get the Oppo Find 5 in your country or will need to get it shipped from Hong Kong as in the case of most of the world (including Europe) so you risk getting charged VAT (20% of value) and custom charges. In that case Oppo becomes significantly more expensive.
If you do live in the USA however then the decision between the two devices comes to personal preference. Both are great devices but do bare in mind that HTC One has the following advantages:
+Faster processor
+Higher Pixel density
+Aluminum unibody
+Possibly better developer support as most people will own the device (but you would have to buy the developer's edition to take full advantage of that)
As of now there are also other great devices on the market from China that might be worth considering as well such as Huawei Ascend D2. Alternatively you also have Xperia Z (which I currently own) and Samsung Galaxy s4.
To be honest I really wanted to buy the Oppo Find 5 here in Europe but due to lack of availability and the high import cost I have decided to choose something different. Buying a phone from Asia also will come with problems when servicing and looking for spare parts or accessories.
So summing up I don' t see the reason why anyone would opt for Oppo other than wanting to be unique. Don't get me wrong it is a great device indeed but it is just not competitive enough in the market right now. I wish that Oppo have released the device a lot sooner as I have been reading about since October 2012.
shem2409 said:
As of now there are also other great devices on the market from China that might be worth considering as well such as Huawei Ascend D2. Alternatively you also have Xperia Z (which I currently own) and Samsung Galaxy s4.
To be honest I really wanted to buy the Oppo Find 5 here in Europe but due to lack of availability and the high import cost I have decided to choose something different. Buying a phone from Asia also will come with problems when servicing and looking for spare parts or accessories.
So summing up I don' t see the reason why anyone would opt for Oppo other than wanting to be unique. Don't get me wrong it is a great device indeed but it is just not competitive enough in the market right now. I wish that Oppo have released the device a lot sooner as I have been reading about since October 2012.
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Got a chance to look at the Xperia ZL and HTC One (Xperia Z isn't available in the US Sony Store unfortunately)
Xperia ZL - don't know which version of the display I was looking at, but viewing angles are definitely inferior to the Oppo (washed out when you don't look straight into the display). It is smaller (basically size of Oppo minus the bottom white non-screen portion)
HTC one - display similar to Oppo, lighter, feels just as good build-quality wise
I just dislike HTC enough (from previous device Amaze 4G, and the craptastic Sense) to not buy phones from them anymore
battery life for Find5 - people say the CM10.1 experimental has way better battery life...
If I had to choose between the Find 5 and HTC One (with a fully working CM10.1 build on both), it's hard to decide... but now, Sense is enough to say no for me
I personally wanted a 5" screen as being 6'3 I have big hands. It is a fact that the viewing angles are not great. The screen does offer beautiful color reproduction though and Sony offers great developer support which the owners can benefit from. There is a few bugs that are still present that I hope that will be resolved with the update.
Coming back to Oppo 5, as I said it is a great device but due to lack of access to it/ price I went for Xperia Z. So far I am super happy with the phone but I like to try out new devices and would love to get my hands on HTC ONE 64GB Developer Edition. It's a shame it's only available in the US. ( the price is kinda steep though :-/ and I personally don't care about Boom Sound or Zoe) I have seen pictures of the aluminum unibody scratching easily as well ( but that could be the paid of Sammy fans...LOL) but I carry my phone in a hard case anyways.
Long story short if I were to buy a phone in the US I would for sure go for HTC ONE DE. Because I live in Europe I think that the Xperia Z is one of the best options here. You can also find it for much cheaper than HTC ONE as it has been out for a while already ( and you get water resistance, a camera which allows you to zoom in (ekhm... HTC one 4mp) and an sd slot (rare these days)
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shem2409 said:
To be honest I don't see how the price makes any difference here:
HTC One price 32gb (sim unlocked, bootloader locked )- 575$
64gb (sim and bootloader unlocked) - 650$
Oppo Find 5 16gb -500$ (but you can't really compare to any of the above due to storage)
32gb- 569$
So from what I can see the price difference is 6$ when comparing the 32gb units.
Now depending on where you live you might be able to get the Oppo Find 5 in your country or will need to get it shipped from Hong Kong as in the case of most of the world (including Europe) so you risk getting charged VAT (20% of value) and custom charges. In that case Oppo becomes significantly more expensive.
To be honest I really wanted to buy the Oppo Find 5 here in Europe but due to lack of availability and the high import cost I have decided to choose something different. Buying a phone from Asia also will come with problems when servicing and looking for spare parts or accessories.
So summing up I don' t see the reason why anyone would opt for Oppo other than wanting to be unique. Don't get me wrong it is a great device indeed but it is just not competitive enough in the market right now. I wish that Oppo have released the device a lot sooner as I have been reading about since October 2012.
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well 6$ difference is not correct. i did some reading and apparently oppo declares their packages as 150$ value. so you will have to pay about 30$ vat depending on where you live in europe.
so i paid 449€ paying with paypal, plus 23€ duty, means a total of 472€.
compared to the 599€ of the same sized Htc One.
just saying....
and at the moment the availability of the oppo is way better - in Austria at least.
but of course importing phone from asia from a "small" company can cause some problems and might be a bit risky
Without a doubt HTC one
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once cyanogenmod 10.1 getting better on Find 5, I think it is more valuable to get a Find 5 than HTC one

[Q] Would you recommend elephone?

I just heard about Elephone, and since their website takes you to all these off the wall places to buy their phones, is this a company you would recommend buying a phone from? I always am a bit suspicious about these off the wall brands and stores. I am particularly interested in the P7000 but there is no topic for the P7000 (another red flag), but the P6000 and P4000 are also enticing.
scottharris4 said:
I just heard about Elephone, and since their website takes you to all these off the wall places to buy their phones, is this a company you would recommend buying a phone from? I always am a bit suspicious about these off the wall brands and stores. I am particularly interested in the P7000 but there is no topic for the P7000 (another red flag), but the P6000 and P4000 are also enticing.
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go for P6000 or P7000.
you can visit their forum also, they have active developers and custom rom support also. :good:
My wife has an P6000 now for some weeks and she really likes it.
It replaces her Samsung Galaxy S2 Plus.
Screen is nice, battery is good, speed is good, Lollipop has since been released.
The only downside is the mediocre camera. It's okay for taking "party pictures" or just some pics to share, but can't compare to a good camera.
But for the price of $130, I would definetly recommend it.
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My wife has an P6000 now for some weeks and she really likes it.
It replaces her Samsung Galaxy S2 Plus.
Screen is nice, battery is good, speed is good, Lollipop has since been released.
The only downside is the mediocre camera. It's okay for taking "party pictures" or just some pics to share, but can't compare to a good camera.
But for the price of $130, I would definetly recommend it.
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I saw it also in a review by AA that the "kinda" downside of this device is the camera, hope it will gets better on a OTA update.
cheeze.keyk said:
I saw it also in a review by AA that the "kinda" downside of this device is the camera, hope it will gets better on a OTA update.
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Don't think the camera can be improved any further just by the software.
The build-in camera can only do 8MP, the 13MP as advertised is only interpolated. And the used CMOS isn't a Sony as advertised, but a somewhat cheaper one..
Same problem with most china phone, camera is often only mediocre. But if you aren't too heavy into photography, it shouldn't hold you back from buying a china phone
german_psycho said:
Don't think the camera can be improved any further just by the software.
The build-in camera can only do 8MP, the 13MP as advertised is only interpolated. And the used CMOS isn't a Sony as advertised, but a somewhat cheaper one..
Same problem with most china phone, camera is often only mediocre. But if you aren't too heavy into photography, it shouldn't hold you back from buying a china phone
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i was thinking of buying this device also or the moto g, for back up phone only.
Beamed from my LG G3 D855
cheeze.keyk said:
go for P6000 or P7000.
you can visit their forum also, they have active developers and custom rom support also. :good:
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Where is their forum?
i think its bbs.elephone.hk
Beamed from my LG G3 D855
Will the Elephone p7000 work with USA 4G/LTE? I've read several of these Chinese phones I have been looking at have poor wifi range. Does Elephone typically have that problem? I ask because where my office is at work isn't that close to the wireless router, I only get about 50% signal strength.
german_psycho said:
My wife has an P6000 now for some weeks and she really likes it.
It replaces her Samsung Galaxy S2 Plus.
Screen is nice, battery is good, speed is good, Lollipop has since been released.
The only downside is the mediocre camera. It's okay for taking "party pictures" or just some pics to share, but can't compare to a good camera.
But for the price of $130, I would definetly recommend it.
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Wait! Audio output too is a major downside. Never got such a ****ty one.. Unless I got defective unit? Doesn't seem so tough..
I've been using this phone for 3 days. It's fast, battery is OK ish, screen is good, audio wise it's OK, lacks compass and gyroscope, camera isn't so good, pictures come out kinda fuzzy. My ex-phone is a Jiayu G3T, so that is what I'm comparing it to. Cost me about 120euro.
scottharris4 said:
I just heard about Elephone, and since their website takes you to all these off the wall places to buy their phones, is this a company you would recommend buying a phone from? I always am a bit suspicious about these off the wall brands and stores. I am particularly interested in the P7000 but there is no topic for the P7000 (another red flag), but the P6000 and P4000 are also enticing.
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Sorry but this only partially true.
Elephone is only a manufacturer and does only B2B.
The information flow of Elephone is rather bad. They still have on their webpage under new products the P7000 announced as available from May. However the P7000 was only partially delivered to pre-orders and a lot of people who paid for the phone are still waiting for it. Apparently the next round of deliveries for the P7000 to shops is announced for the 25th of June.
The other new Elephone models G9, P4000 and S2/S2plus announced for June are still only to pre-order in shops.
[*]The shops where you can buy the products are not truthful about the Elephone products they have in stock. In my experience you have to ask them if the have the have the product in stock in their warehouse ready for shipping.
I did cancel my order for the P7000 in gold with To2C and had to fight to get a full refund.
I placed my order with them at the 21/05/ and got a confirmation of them that they will ship it from the 25th. On the 25th To2C said we'll ship Wednesday or Thursday, on the 28th Friday because they have do put them through their QC. On the 30th they admitted that they do not fulfil the order, it will be shipped out of direct from the Elephone factory to customers and that they cannot send via PostNL. I then asked them what MT6752 3GB phone they have in their own warehouse in stock ready to be send out. They offered the Ecoo E04 (which I looked up as alternative already; it is build by Elephone and out on the market). Next Monday 01/06/ they said again sorry they do not have it in stock, it wilol be send by Elephone. At this point I cancelled my order with them and wanted to be refunded. To2C send me an email showing that they put the paypal fee to me. At that point I did open a dispute with paypal, contacted paypal and raised the dispute to a claim for a full refund, which was done with in the next hours.
I did order then the Ecoo E04 at Aliexpress and it has cleared customs late last Friday. But be aware there are a lot of shop on Aliexpress who are not to be trusted. Eg. they put up pictures of a product alleged to be in stock and you find the same picture for it in an other shop with only the paper been photoshoped. There are even some shops which sell with DHL or FedEx shipping via an extra stop VAT/Duty free.​
They develop only their own stock and custom ROMs.
Elephone did not release the kernel source code for one of their android models, at least not on their forum under Developers Discussion› Android kernel.
There are some customers not happy with the support they get of Elephone.
They announced only the release of the kernel source code for their new MT 6753 based P8000 (slower cpu and Mali T720). The P8000 is announced for July, but well see my comment above
I posted a request in their forum thread to release the P8000 source code to release all their android kernel source codes.
Please support my post to push Elephone to release the kernel source codes: hxxp://bbs.elephone.hk/archiver/tid-5448.html​
I as well ordered a P7000 in gold at to2c.com during pre-sale on May 12th and I finally got it delivered to my place in the EU on June 16th, which is absolutely okay.
I also had problems getting the phone in stock with t2oc, it does get shipped direct and I complained to them about the in stock claim, they then gave a tracking reference which still said registered but not dispatched... That said I good the mains adaptor from t2oc within 2 weeks and the phone from elephone within 3 weeks, my old spare HTC sensation has been passed on to my father and my HTC one is now my spare. I'm happy with the p7000 so far, I'm not a developer but its a new toy and only £150, I've ordered another for a friend through coolicool and getting the same stock issues
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I just did. They are so slow in releasing new ROM. I bet they don't even develop their own ROM. You know why? Coz either JiaYu or some other manufacturer has exact releases as Elephone!
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I just did. They are so slow in releasing new ROM. I bet they don't even develop their own ROM. You know why? Coz either JiaYu or some other manufacturer has exact releases as Elephone!
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yeah... they drop all support for ROMs after about 6m since release.
they also delete forum posts that ask why the ROMs are no longer supported.
crappy company... cheap though
deaglecat said:
yeah... they drop all support for ROMs after about 6m since release.
they also delete forum posts that ask why the ROMs are no longer supported.
crappy company... cheap though
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*Facepalm*
Looks like they deleted the G2 section :/
I do reccomend to buy one. It's cheap, nice, good, not small capacity (16 GB if I'm right).
But it's hell hard to root but basicly other things are nice and I enjoy using Elephone.

Should I buy a note 3 in 2016?

Hey everyone,
Looking for a phone for around 150 UK pounds with a big display, good camera and long screen on time
Heard the note 3 would suit me
Is it still getting updated? Big dev support still?
How's the Camera?
What to look for in 2nd hand phones
Are the repairs on the display cheap?
Is it worth buying a cracked display cheaper and getting it fixed?
Is the upgrade to note 4 worth it?????
Sorry loads of questions
Coming from an meizu mx5 very poor support sot of around 4 hours and camera Isnt great poor support again from meizu
sutty86 said:
Hey everyone,
Looking for a phone for around 150 UK pounds with a big display, good camera and long screen on time
Heard the note 3 would suit me
Is it still getting updated? Big dev support still?
How's the Camera?
What to look for in 2nd hand phones
Are the repairs on the display cheap?
Is it worth buying a cracked display cheaper and getting it fixed?
Is the upgrade to note 4 worth it?????
Sorry loads of questions
Coming from an meizu mx5 very poor support sot of around 4 hours and camera Isnt great poor support again from meizu
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I just bought one for my wife. I have one too and they are great.
It cost me about £220 second hand. The note 4 is considerably more and not £100+ better. So sick with the note 3. Camera is 13 mega pixel and more than just adequate.
I don't really care what the Samsung support is, I put custom roms on both phones so they think they are note 5's. The support on xda is all you need. Get a decent case and screen protector and it'll last.
If you can get it for a price you want them go for it. Still a great phone.
Cheifwhat said:
I just bought one for my wife. I have one too and they are great.
It cost me about £220 second hand. The note 4 is considerably more and not £100+ better. So sick with the note 3. Camera is 13 mega pixel and more than just adequate.
I don't really care what the Samsung support is, I put custom roms on both phones so they think they are note 5's. The support on xda is all you need. Get a decent case and screen protector and it'll last.
If you can get it for a price you want them go for it. Still a great phone.
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Thank you for the honest reply
Whats roms are good for battery life
Well. I'm using the phronensis rom, which, despite its silly name is pretty dammed good. But have a look around, the thread titles will usually say if they are geared for performance or battery life (or both).
If you're new to rooting and installing custom roms then I'd recommend the all in one tool kit by skipsoft. Just search 'xda skipsoft' in Google. It pretty much does it all for you (or at least it holds your hand through the process). Just make sure that what you tell it is correct and toy should be good to go.
And be careful. I always read the last few comments in a thread to see what bugs have been reported and if the rom is still being updated. Wouldn't hurt to look up a tutorial on YouTube either.
Send me a private message if you'd like a phone chat about it
Would suggest flashing Lean or Idle kernel for good battery life.
Thanks guys
Going to buy a note three tonight for 140 pounds
Is there two different cpus which one would benefit me better.
Also it's locked down To ee is there a sim unlock tool/app
Or is it something I have to buy on the bay
sutty86 said:
Thanks guys
Going to buy a note three tonight for 140 pounds
Is there two different cpus which one would benefit me better.
Also it's locked down To ee is there a sim unlock tool/app
Or is it something I have to buy on the bay
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Buy it unlocked, otherwise unlock codes from EE will cost you. And there are no such tools.
And very likely you're looking at SM-N9005, the Snapdragon version. There's a tiny chance you might have happened upon N900, the Exynos version that has no 4G support. The performance of the two variants is identical.
Thank you , the price for an unlocked note is alot more expensive than the ee branded ohone
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Thank you for the honest reply
Whats roms are good for battery life
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For me after trying a lot of roms the better battery life have got is with this rom : http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/development/rom-qs-n9005-lp-t3037655
right gents,
i am now a proud owner of a note 3 unlock, running stock lolipop atm 5.0 going to root and start trying a rom,
paid £160 got an extra 3 batteries plus official samsung box, and samsung usb 3.0 extra battery charger...
and Armoured Case,
Slight marks on left hand side of casing, does not affect screen
i have another case, glass screen coming tomorrow also!
Thanks guys, very happy
cant believe how big it is im coming from a 5.5 inch phone also
Picked one up for $35 as a back up and to flash roms, best amount of money I've ever spent on a Android device!
For a phone this old it still kicks ass.
Cheifwhat said:
Well. I'm using the phronensis rom, which, despite its silly name is pretty dammed good. But have a look around, the thread titles will usually say if they are geared for performance or battery life (or both).
If you're new to rooting and installing custom roms then I'd recommend the all in one tool kit by skipsoft. Just search 'xda skipsoft' in Google. It pretty much does it all for you (or at least it holds your hand through the process). Just make sure that what you tell it is correct and toy should be good to go.
And be careful. I always read the last few comments in a thread to see what bugs have been reported and if the rom is still being updated. Wouldn't hurt to look up a tutorial on YouTube either.
Send me a private message if you'd like a phone chat about it
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Phronesis (Ancient Greek: φρόνησις) is a word used in the ancient greek and means "wisdom" or "intelligence", common theme in philosophical debates. As you can see, this word can be anything but silly my friend
Thanks for the translation of the name but got to agree does sound odd, not yet flashed but does look absolutely beautiful.
35 dollars wow bargain that's just over 20 pounds in the UK.
Are the phones capable of fast charging only seems to be charging at 1200mah on all my chargers even the fast charge 2.0 charger I have
sutty86 said:
Thanks for the translation of the name but got to agree does sound odd, not yet flashed but does look absolutely beautiful.
35 dollars wow bargain that's just over 20 pounds in the UK.
Are the phones capable of fast charging only seems to be charging at 1200mah on all my chargers even the fast charge 2.0 charger I have
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I charge it with my Nexus 6 charger and it charges pretty quick

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