Hi all. I'm asking for the expert opinion of all the xda ogs. I bought an HD2 about 5 months ago off ebay for almost full price. And now it won't start (I tried everything). Sent it to htc repair center in Texas.
Now my question is: If it costs more than 150 to repair the phone, I'll probably just buy a new one instead of repairing it to have better peace of mind. Should I get another HD2, this time brand new from amazon for 299, or should I get an HTC sensation for abouit 540?
I really don't see myself using the dual core cpu that much, but the higher megapixel camera would be much more badass, and I do take alot of pictures.
Any productive opinions are welcome.
You say your HD2 will not start, so did it just start this or were you flashing something and it did this after the flash? If so what were you flashing? I ask this cause it sounds like you have bricked your HD2 and that is fixable for a third of the 150 dollars you suggested.
Now as for your Sensation question I don't really have any advice for you as I am currently wrestling with what device to upgrade too myself. And the Sensation is like one of the top devices I am looking at.
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Hi all. I'm asking for the expert opinion of all the xda ogs. I bought an HD2 about 5 months ago off ebay for almost full price. And now it won't start (I tried everything). Sent it to htc repair center in Texas.
Now my question is: If it costs more than 150 to repair the phone, I'll probably just buy a new one instead of repairing it to have better peace of mind. Should I get another HD2, this time brand new from amazon for 299, or should I get an HTC sensation for abouit 540?
I really don't see myself using the dual core cpu that much, but the higher megapixel camera would be much more badass, and I do take alot of pictures.
Any productive opinions are welcome.
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I have the same question...my HD2 is also gone for repair and I was thinking of selling it..once I get it back...but the problem is HD2 still allows you to do so much...there is no other phone like it quite yet...there is also possibility of DFT still releasing new version of MAGLDR for wp7 mango which you never know, it maybe good enough for daily driver...
I'm in same dilema...still not decided though
However, instead of sensation I was thinking of buying TMO G2X (LG optimus 2x)...You can get a new one for ~ $350-400 on eBay compared to sensation which is almost $500-600 now...
Compared to sensation it has better camera and no death grip issues, while you lose out on High res screen and Sense UI (which is quite good in its 3rd installment but i think I can manage with cm7, as I was using that on my hd2)
blah, seems like the Sensation has way too many issues right now. I wouldn't be able to stand having dust underneath my screen. Or death grip.
At 299 right now, the HD2 seems like the best value. 4.3 inch screen, and I could flash a new rom every week if I wanted.
What I really want is the samsung S2 of course, but it's still almost 700 on amazon.
I just wish they had another phone for about 300 with a bigger screen (I prefer 5 inch lol) and a better camera.
Best advice of all is to wait if I can. Prices will drop quickly, and maybe the next batch of sensations will be better built.
I'm due an upgrade next month (or if O2 won't match/beat Vodafone's tarriffs it'll be in 4 months when I jump ship) and so far the Sensation is the only thing that appeals to me.
Tried one out in CPWH yesterday and was impressed, no lag, no stutters.
That's a UK based version though, and from what people say about the phones over in the US, your carriers add a load of bloat that can affect performance.
My HD2 will go to my fiancee to replace my old HD.
I will miss the ability to make calls without having to go to the home screen, but I'll get used to it.
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blah, seems like the Sensation has way too many issues right now. I wouldn't be able to stand having dust underneath my screen. Or death grip.
At 299 right now, the HD2 seems like the best value. 4.3 inch screen, and I could flash a new rom every week if I wanted.
What I really want is the samsung S2 of course, but it's still almost 700 on amazon.
I just wish they had another phone for about 300 with a bigger screen (I prefer 5 inch lol) and a better camera.
Best advice of all is to wait if I can. Prices will drop quickly, and maybe the next batch of sensations will be better built.
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HTC Sensations and LG 2X have already sold in Jakarta.
Next week, 23 July, Samsung will launch Galaxy S2 at Pacific Place, Jakarta, with the special price starting from Rp4.1 Mio (USD 500 - 600)
I think it is reasonable price, considering the specs
I remember that I bought HTC Touch HD (Blackstone) at Rp10.5 mio (USD1.100) when it was launched
I heard that Sensation has a death grip issue. So, You might consider waiting till the price of Galaxy S2 drop
Cheers
If you still want to stay with HTC and don't mind a single-core phone, there's always the Desire HD. Same sized screen, but more RAM (same as Sensation but less than SGS2) and newer generation of Snapdragon. It also has a 8MP sensor but I don't know how that compares to the one on the Sensation. It's also about $100 cheaper too. I see one right now that is actually the Inspire 4G but it is unlocked and that is like only $400. I would buy that buy I think my HD2 will last me maybe until the end of this year and then I might move on to Virgin Mobile or something and keep the HD2 as a test phone and for traveling.
DPMAce said:
Hi all. I'm asking for the expert opinion of all the xda ogs. I bought an HD2 about 5 months ago off ebay for almost full price. And now it won't start (I tried everything). Sent it to htc repair center in Texas.
Now my question is: If it costs more than 150 to repair the phone, I'll probably just buy a new one instead of repairing it to have better peace of mind. Should I get another HD2, this time brand new from amazon for 299, or should I get an HTC sensation for abouit 540?
I really don't see myself using the dual core cpu that much, but the higher megapixel camera would be much more badass, and I do take alot of pictures.
Any productive opinions are welcome.
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Man, you can pick up hd2s for less than 200 on Craigslist... why would you spend 150 on a repair?
even sensations go for 350 max... flippin' eck...
Mafioso said:
I have the same question...my HD2 is also gone for repair and I was thinking of selling it..once I get it back...but the problem is HD2 still allows you to do so much...there is no other phone like it quite yet...there is also possibility of DFT still releasing new version of MAGLDR for wp7 mango which you never know, it maybe good enough for daily driver...
I'm in same dilema...still not decided though
However, instead of sensation I was thinking of buying TMO G2X (LG optimus 2x)...You can get a new one for ~ $350-400 on eBay compared to sensation which is almost $500-600 now...
Compared to sensation it has better camera and no death grip issues, while you lose out on High res screen and Sense UI (which is quite good in its 3rd installment but i think I can manage with cm7, as I was using that on my hd2)
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Sensation is far superior to g2x, trust me on this, I've owned both...HD2 is still the most enjoyable experience to be had..
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I currently have the Touch (Elf) which I really like. However, I am desparately wanting the Touch HD and wonder if the benefits of upgrading are worth the hundreds and hundreds of dollars. I'm sure everyone will say it is definitely worth it but, let's face it, the THD is not a cheap device. Also, what is the life expectancy of all of these devices?
its expensive, but once you've used one, you'll never go back to what you had before, especially coming from a 2.8''.
I had a 8525 before, and bought the HD as a replacement, but really had a hard time justifying the price in my mind, but after that big beautiful screen and how much improved the experience is, there is no way i could go back to the 8525 or any other qvga device again.
It's worth it and the price is coming down...keep checking the xda marketplace or ebay for used ones!
it is nice, charming and irresistible... if u hav the $$, buy..
i'm hacked off with windows mobile so probably going to sell the HD
has anyone looked at selling theirs to buy a iphone?
i'm after a 16gb model
anyone know if i'll be able to get enough for a mint HD to buy a new iphone?
i'm sure others have looked into this before
i'm in the uk if that makes any difference
Considering how long ago the HD was launched I can't imagine that it will sell for top dollar.
the highest offer i got on my HD that i recently put on ebay was 475 plus 20 shipping. I relisted because i want at least 500 for it.
I sold mine is feb for $690 on ebay and bought an iphone. You will get enough for an iphone for sure (at contract price).
Will buy the new iPhone 3GS regardless of whether I get good price for my HD or not. Will also keep my iPhone 3G 16GB for my family. Everyone of them wants me to pass to them.
cheers guys
Its about 1 month old as i had it replaced, and is in mint condition
its not however unused, but you cant notice that it has been
Will the prices of a pay as u go iphone (non S) drop when the S is released
How long will i have to wait?
Currently i think i can get a 16gb model for £340
so i'm hoping i can get that for my HD
cheers
You shouldn't have a problem selling it for at least £350... I was monitoring the HTC HD up till 2 weeks ago (I got mine last week, finally got it under contract from O2) coz I was thinking of getting one without contract..
All the phones were going for above £300, even the ones where it's been 'used' for a week or a month...
Might be selling mine on ebay after I get the TP2 with Tmob USA!
why dude whyyyyyyyyyy?
put a dutty or miri rom on and you're golden.
Good luck with your fruit.
Have you tried ebay?
Off topic. Hey homer that is a beautiful American Pitbull you have looks alot like mine but mine but with less white, to bad idiots and the media give them such a bad rep.
Marketplace section
m.r.davies said:
i'm hacked off with windows mobile so probably going to sell the HD
has anyone looked at selling theirs to buy a iphone?
i'm after a 16gb model
anyone know if i'll be able to get enough for a mint HD to buy a new iphone?
i'm sure others have looked into this before
i'm in the uk if that makes any difference
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If you decide to sell please go to Marketplace section
You´ll have more chances over there
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If you decide to sell please go to Marketplace section
You´ll have more chances over there
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thanks mate, didn't know there was one!
cheers
Harhar
I think this is funny ....
You want to sell your HD to get an IPhone
I sold my IPhone to get a HD
For me ... this is funny!!
fwt said:
Harhar
I think this is funny ....
You want to sell your HD to get an IPhone
I sold my IPhone to get a HD
For me ... this is funny!!
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that is quite funny
grass is always greener huh!
it's all about the new S version and OS 3
m.r.davies said:
that is quite funny
grass is always greener huh!
it's all about the new S version and OS 3
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well ... OS3 sound great ... at least IPhoners now get "copy & paste" and some other nice features
and about the "S" ... hm ... we'll see
but always remember ... it's all about Marketing and those guys and gals over at Apple now that job
good luck anyway
i've no doubt the hd is better in terms of specs etc
however, i want something that is quick to use, and doesn't give you rsi as you need to put a fair bit of pressure on the screen
who knows, i maybe back in a month!!!
You wont be back in a month trust me you wont be back to the HD at all.
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You wont be back in a month trust me you wont be back to the HD at all.
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lol, I've used the iPhone 3G for some months and now I'm back to the Touch HD and probably won't get an iPhone again (at least I definitely won't get the 3GS, I'm waiting for the Samsung i8000 or the Acer F1).
The iPhone is still way too limited. At least it's got copy&paste and voice control now but the camera still sucks, it still can't download things from the internet, the display resolution is still bad and lots of other things that were disturbing me.
Unlike the iPhone, my Touch HD does everything I want (except for good pictures in low light) and there's no situation where it lets me down because Windows Mobile is limitless.
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You wont be back in a month trust me you wont be back to the HD at all.
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Speak for yourself man!
no brainwashing please.
peace out.
For the holidays I want to get my wife a GSM WP7 phone, but I don't think the HD2 is the right choice for her. Don't get me wrong, I love using my HD2 running WP7, but she isn't as tech savvy as I am.
For the price, I think the HTC Mozart might be the best bet. Newegg is currently selling them for $279 with free shipping. The LG Optimus 7 is the only other WP7 phone with a cheaper price tag, but they don't seem to be built as well as the Mozart. Before I bought my HD2 I purchased 2 LG Optimus 7's and had to return them because the hardware buttons were very flimsy.
Seems like the HTC Mozart is the best WP7 phone for my wife.
What do you guys think?
good choice go with it. or wait till the Nokia Lumia 601 comes out.
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good choice go with it. or wait till the Nokia Lumia 601 comes out.
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Thats probably a better idea, if time permits that is, be a shame to get a device thats effectively being replaced in a few weeks
If you want a simple WP7(stable, fast, smooth, etc...), do not choose HD2 ^^
I went ahead and ordered the mozart. I wasn't sure if it was a good buy, but now I see that Newegg is out of stock after I presumably ordered the last one. I guess I got a pretty good deal.
I'm looking into a new phone but I'm just not sure if I should get the Find 5 or One. The camera is not a deciding factor for me, battery would mean more. If I read right the Find 5 has a bigger battery, can I assume that means the Oppa also have better battery life?
My second sticking point is, are there any rumors for when 4.2.2 will be released for it?
Third is how is the support for T-Mobile HSPA+ and LTE?
I should go for the HTC One, BTW it will be better supported!
well i guess in the end its all about the price. the find 5 is way more reasonable, at least in europe
the battery might be bigger on the oppo but i think there are some issues with the battery management. thats just what i read in other threads and on the oppo forums - please correct me if im wrong...
i dont have my find 5 yet, but ordered one yesterday. i was unsure between those two as well, but eventually ordered the black find 5 since it will still take some time until the black htc One is on sale.
so if the oppo doesnt work for me i will sell it and get the me the htc one...
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well i guess in the end its all about the price. the find 5 is way more reasonable, at least in europe
the battery might be bigger on the oppo but i think there are some issues with the battery management. thats just what i read in other threads and on the oppo forums - please correct me if im wrong...
i dont have my find 5 yet, but ordered one yesterday. i was unsure between those two as well, but eventually ordered the black find 5 since it will still take some time until the black htc One is on sale.
so if the oppo doesnt work for me i will sell it and get the me the htc one...
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Where did you buy Oppo find 5 in Europe? The only one I found in Europe is on amazon.co.uk and it costs 400£ . Did you manage to find it any cheaper ?
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Where did you buy Oppo find 5 in Europe? The only one I found in Europe is on amazon.co.uk and it costs 400£ . Did you manage to find it any cheaper ?
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on their homepage oppostyle com the 32gb version for 569$ - they ship for free!! (express it says )
Did you have to pay customs etc? (it's shipped from Asia) Cause as far as I know that would add in excess of 20% (of value) to the phone price... And then it simply would not be worth the hassle with customs etc
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shem2409 said:
Did you have to pay customs etc? (it's shipped from Asia) Cause as far as I know that would add in excess of 20% (of value) to the phone price... And then it simply would not be worth the hassle with customs etc
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yes your right maybe its not worth it when extra fees are added...but sometimes you have to pay them and sometimes it just gets through without any extra costs.
i ordered mine two days ago so i hope i don't have to pay custom duties... but even with the 20% added its still about 50€ cheaper than the htc
- not that much but i was just curious and needed a phone...
aliexpress
You can buy Find 5 on Aliexpress for only 530$ btw
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You can buy Find 5 on Aliexpress for only 530$ btw
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Don't recommend Ali
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Hi Knitler,
In my opinion, the main drawback of the find 5 is its fragility.
The back side of the phone, despite it is very stylish and uncommon (but certainly not as much as the Htc one <3 ), has a very soft plastic.
I owned it since a few weeks and one thing I can say is i'm always trying to be careful on where I place it and how it stands on a desk.
Dust easily scratches the rear side of my poor Oppo and loves lodging into them, especially on the white model
And what is most frustrating than handling the Oppo like it would be a jewel !? Damn, it's just a phone !!
(so if you hesitate, chose the black one )
Otherwise, this smartphone is just a killer plaything
Regarding the battery side, I'm not shure a few milliamps would make the difference on a whole day. In both cases, you would have to charge it every day.
Another interesting point mentionned by brakke97, I believe the One will have a better support.
But, chose the HTC and you will have Mr Everyone's phone
Pixel69 said:
Hi Knitler,
In my opinion, the main drawback of the find 5 is its fragility.
The back side of the phone, despite it is very stylish and uncommon (but certainly not as much as the Htc one <3 ), has a very soft plastic.
I owned it since a few weeks and one thing I can say is i'm always trying to be careful on where I place it and how it stands on a desk.
Dust easily scratches the rear side of my poor Oppo and loves lodging into them, especially on the white model
And what is most frustrating than handling the Oppo like it would be a jewel !? Damn, it's just a phone !!
(so if you hesitate, chose the black one )
Otherwise, this smartphone is just a killer plaything
Regarding the battery side, I'm not shure a few milliamps would make the difference on a whole day. In both cases, you would have to charge it every day.
Another interesting point mentionned by brakke97, I believe the One will have a better support.
But, chose the HTC and you will have Mr Everyone's phone
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It's not fragile at all, it's very well built. Soft plastic does NOT make a phone fragile, it makes it impact resistant!
I hate how people constantly ignorantly bash plastic as a build material. Properly engineered plastics (as found in Samsungs and the Oppo) are more impact resistant and durable than any other material available for a phone. I speak this from experience - I would be blind in one eye if not for polycarbonate plastic's impact resistance.
I'd say find 5 if your on a budget,and HTC's aren't the best choice if battery life is a concern...
I would choose Oppo find 5. There are many updates from Oppo and the phone is fantastic.
I am sure HTC one will have great support, but what about the locked bootloader? You will lose warranty as soon as you unlock it. So think twice before you choose a phone. Oppo is budget phone while HTC is costlier one. I think we should encourage Oppo so that they will release much more devices in the future.
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To be honest I don't see how the price makes any difference here:
HTC One price 32gb (sim unlocked, bootloader locked )- 575$
64gb (sim and bootloader unlocked) - 650$
Oppo Find 5 16gb -500$ (but you can't really compare to any of the above due to storage)
32gb- 569$
So from what I can see the price difference is 6$ when comparing the 32gb units.
Now depending on where you live you might be able to get the Oppo Find 5 in your country or will need to get it shipped from Hong Kong as in the case of most of the world (including Europe) so you risk getting charged VAT (20% of value) and custom charges. In that case Oppo becomes significantly more expensive.
If you do live in the USA however then the decision between the two devices comes to personal preference. Both are great devices but do bare in mind that HTC One has the following advantages:
+Faster processor
+Higher Pixel density
+Aluminum unibody
+Possibly better developer support as most people will own the device (but you would have to buy the developer's edition to take full advantage of that)
As of now there are also other great devices on the market from China that might be worth considering as well such as Huawei Ascend D2. Alternatively you also have Xperia Z (which I currently own) and Samsung Galaxy s4.
To be honest I really wanted to buy the Oppo Find 5 here in Europe but due to lack of availability and the high import cost I have decided to choose something different. Buying a phone from Asia also will come with problems when servicing and looking for spare parts or accessories.
So summing up I don' t see the reason why anyone would opt for Oppo other than wanting to be unique. Don't get me wrong it is a great device indeed but it is just not competitive enough in the market right now. I wish that Oppo have released the device a lot sooner as I have been reading about since October 2012.
shem2409 said:
As of now there are also other great devices on the market from China that might be worth considering as well such as Huawei Ascend D2. Alternatively you also have Xperia Z (which I currently own) and Samsung Galaxy s4.
To be honest I really wanted to buy the Oppo Find 5 here in Europe but due to lack of availability and the high import cost I have decided to choose something different. Buying a phone from Asia also will come with problems when servicing and looking for spare parts or accessories.
So summing up I don' t see the reason why anyone would opt for Oppo other than wanting to be unique. Don't get me wrong it is a great device indeed but it is just not competitive enough in the market right now. I wish that Oppo have released the device a lot sooner as I have been reading about since October 2012.
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Got a chance to look at the Xperia ZL and HTC One (Xperia Z isn't available in the US Sony Store unfortunately)
Xperia ZL - don't know which version of the display I was looking at, but viewing angles are definitely inferior to the Oppo (washed out when you don't look straight into the display). It is smaller (basically size of Oppo minus the bottom white non-screen portion)
HTC one - display similar to Oppo, lighter, feels just as good build-quality wise
I just dislike HTC enough (from previous device Amaze 4G, and the craptastic Sense) to not buy phones from them anymore
battery life for Find5 - people say the CM10.1 experimental has way better battery life...
If I had to choose between the Find 5 and HTC One (with a fully working CM10.1 build on both), it's hard to decide... but now, Sense is enough to say no for me
I personally wanted a 5" screen as being 6'3 I have big hands. It is a fact that the viewing angles are not great. The screen does offer beautiful color reproduction though and Sony offers great developer support which the owners can benefit from. There is a few bugs that are still present that I hope that will be resolved with the update.
Coming back to Oppo 5, as I said it is a great device but due to lack of access to it/ price I went for Xperia Z. So far I am super happy with the phone but I like to try out new devices and would love to get my hands on HTC ONE 64GB Developer Edition. It's a shame it's only available in the US. ( the price is kinda steep though :-/ and I personally don't care about Boom Sound or Zoe) I have seen pictures of the aluminum unibody scratching easily as well ( but that could be the paid of Sammy fans...LOL) but I carry my phone in a hard case anyways.
Long story short if I were to buy a phone in the US I would for sure go for HTC ONE DE. Because I live in Europe I think that the Xperia Z is one of the best options here. You can also find it for much cheaper than HTC ONE as it has been out for a while already ( and you get water resistance, a camera which allows you to zoom in (ekhm... HTC one 4mp) and an sd slot (rare these days)
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shem2409 said:
To be honest I don't see how the price makes any difference here:
HTC One price 32gb (sim unlocked, bootloader locked )- 575$
64gb (sim and bootloader unlocked) - 650$
Oppo Find 5 16gb -500$ (but you can't really compare to any of the above due to storage)
32gb- 569$
So from what I can see the price difference is 6$ when comparing the 32gb units.
Now depending on where you live you might be able to get the Oppo Find 5 in your country or will need to get it shipped from Hong Kong as in the case of most of the world (including Europe) so you risk getting charged VAT (20% of value) and custom charges. In that case Oppo becomes significantly more expensive.
To be honest I really wanted to buy the Oppo Find 5 here in Europe but due to lack of availability and the high import cost I have decided to choose something different. Buying a phone from Asia also will come with problems when servicing and looking for spare parts or accessories.
So summing up I don' t see the reason why anyone would opt for Oppo other than wanting to be unique. Don't get me wrong it is a great device indeed but it is just not competitive enough in the market right now. I wish that Oppo have released the device a lot sooner as I have been reading about since October 2012.
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well 6$ difference is not correct. i did some reading and apparently oppo declares their packages as 150$ value. so you will have to pay about 30$ vat depending on where you live in europe.
so i paid 449€ paying with paypal, plus 23€ duty, means a total of 472€.
compared to the 599€ of the same sized Htc One.
just saying....
and at the moment the availability of the oppo is way better - in Austria at least.
but of course importing phone from asia from a "small" company can cause some problems and might be a bit risky
Without a doubt HTC one
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once cyanogenmod 10.1 getting better on Find 5, I think it is more valuable to get a Find 5 than HTC one
I am really big fan of HTC HD2, but I still get tired with my old Omnia i900. Yesterday searching the Internet I found HD2 in very strange price - 567 PLN (about 185 USD). And my question is: should I try and buy this one or look for any more expensive? Should I trust this seller?
As device is 4yrs old that price is possible for old stock, I buy them around 90USD for 100% working clean examples with void stickers still present ...
Hm... I forgot to write it's completely new. So it is really, really strange.
I can buy new old stock for about same here in Thailand, seems about right to me. At HD2s age you get no HTC warranty & it is old hat hardware by today's standard, they need clear them & HD2 demand is not so high these days so prices have fallen.
So do you think I should buy this one?
No idea as not seen the retailers details, if has some form of buyer protection & return policy then might be worth it as buying used HD2's is only good if can be hands on with device prior to purchase as eBay etc are full of the sh1te used devices.
I sure would not want spend more on a new old stock 4yr old handset with known digitiser & bga failings.
JJKPL said:
So do you think I should buy this one?
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I am not recommended you to buy this. Because i think it also old. You did not get same version from old version...
You'll try to buy an used item on ebay.. it's an old funny phone.. but I bought a Nexus 4 for that price!
great post
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I am really big fan of HTC HD2, but I still get tired with my old Omnia i900. Yesterday searching the Internet I found HD2 in very strange price - 567 PLN (about 185 USD). And my question is: should I try and buy this one or look for any more expensive? Should I trust this seller?
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i am wondering anybody is still using this device today
I have still 2 HTC HD2 at home.
At the one the screen is broken and in the other the mainboard seems to have a problem.
Actually i wanted to join them. But since i have a Moto G, the HD2 is nearly completly out of my Head.
But i had really nice 4 years with this device.
Do you really want to spend this much money on such a old device?
I don't know. I would really recommend you not to do that.
If you are a dev, then it is maybe ok, but as a simple user...?
I think the times are nearly over or not? But if your money is falling out of your pocket
As i said did not follow HD2 since 5 months. I would reccomend you to buy a Brand new Moto G.
Google converted middel class Hardware phones to low class price phones. Excellent!
looks like a used phone to me.