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Should I get this phone?

I no I no....this post is gonna receive lots of bias info but I still wanna give it a try and I hope people r honest. I have read all over in these forums, there are lots of threads like this but at points it seemed people were overly sarcastic about everything.
My contract ends in a couple of weeks. I'm gonna be switching to tmobile as its hella cheaper. Now putting specs aside, I no they are great, how is everything else in the phone.
My primary concern is the glass back. It seems like everyone is split among the issues-some have already shattered it and others haven't.
Anything else I should no before setting my mind on which phone I should get?
Thanks
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Hardware is great, price is great. It appears that build quality is VERY inconsistent seeing as most of my friends and myself have seemingly perfect units, but there are still a billion new RMA threads every day. To protect the glass back it's safest to get yourself a case. If, like me, you don't like using the phone with a case on then try a pouch case to protect it in your pocket but which allows you to use it 'naked' when you want to. Mine hasn't shattered yet although there are some minute and unnoticeable scratches on the back glass; they can't be seen unless in the perfect light.

I have this phone for a few months now and I absolutely love it! It's fast it's super handsome ... it is very unique!!!
Personally I didn't have any problem with the glass... except a little scratch which I don't know what happened!! My problem with the glass is that it's super slippery! It sometimes moves even on flat surfaces like coffee table...! 2 week ago I ordered some skins for back of my phone from here:
http://dbrand.com/submodels/nexus-4/
My phone looks even better with this, looks very luxury! It has a better grip now and doesn't slip away like fish! I'm using screen protection on gorrila glass also just to avoid taking any scratch...
I didn't drop my phone on a hard floor but I did drop it on carpet and one time I kicked it and it hit the wall! Nothing happened thou
If you like taking pictures with your phone I have to say the Camera isn't the best specially in low light situations but it's not the worst either...
I like the screen better than Super Amoled cause colors are more natural but I gotta say it looks a little washed out sometimes! It could be more colorful, you can improve it with custom kernels if you are planning to root...
Everything else about this phone is 10/10... battery life, smoothness, update support, appearance and ..... I'd give this phone 9 out of 10

I was seriously considering this phone also a couple of weeks ago. Posted my thoughts on XDA and the guys convinced me to buy it. One of the best decisions ever. The phone looks stunning and the build quality is excellent on mine. So far I managed to avoid scratches by keeping the back screen protector on and putting a case on it straight away.I haven't rooted mine yet because you will get the fastest updates from Google straight. However if you do want to root it there will be a variety of alternatives available (maybe an Ubuntu OS later). So trust me it is a good phone I will give it a 9.5/10 minimum.

Don't mean to troll..still with vzw. And hella jelly of u assholes...DNA is Aiight tho...on topic was I'd buy it if I could... Might anyway!!!!
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I waited to buy my n4 for a while, I mean the shortage helped but still I waited. Expandable storage being the biggest reason and the geek in me wanted to see what else would come to the market to rival the n4.....I wish I had pulled the trigger earlier. The phone is phenomenal! Best phone I've owned by far, still wish storage was expandable....I'm annoyed with Google for that and their dumb explanation, but other than that I love my phone! I got myself a heavy duty case just in case....so far so good!
Did I mention that I love this phone with all my heart lol
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That's it....nexus it is! Lol
How loud is the rear speaker during music playback? I'm a music guy not a camera guy.
Which case do u guys recommend?
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Check out this video, sound isn't the best but it's still quite loud. The quality can be a bit tinny at times but normally it's OK. The biggest issue with the speakers for me is the placement as when you put the phone down on a flat surface the sound is entirely muffled (and I mean entirely, there's almost nothing coming out).

Its the best phone for the value of any smart phone and if you are going TMobile pre-paid check out Straight Talk, its basically the same service but $15 a month cheaper.
Nigeldg said:
Hardware is great, price is great. It appears that build quality is VERY inconsistent seeing as most of my friends and myself have seemingly perfect units, but there are still a billion new RMA threads every day. To protect the glass back it's safest to get yourself a case. If, like me, you don't like using the phone with a case on then try a pouch case to protect it in your pocket but which allows you to use it 'naked' when you want to. Mine hasn't shattered yet although there are some minute and unnoticeable scratches on the back glass; they can't be seen unless in the perfect light.
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Just a comment on this, there is an idea of a "self-selection" bias. This is a forum to discuss the phone and when are people most likely to discuss something? When they have a complaint. There are likely millions of perfectly good Nexus 4s out there with owners who are blissfully unaware of what XDA is (or even what RMA means).
If you go into any forum and base your picture on complaints in a product forum youd think everything was garbage. Look at Apple forums, youd think Iphones and Ipads are nothing but terrible batteries, rattles and light bleed.
The reason your phone is good is the same reason my phone is good. The vast majority of Nexus 4s are quality.

mubby93 said:
That's it....nexus it is! Lol
How loud is the rear speaker during music playback? I'm a music guy not a camera guy.
Which case do u guys recommend?
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Great for music, it shocked me how great it is for that purpose....its definitely gaining ground on iphones. Franco kernel and for a music player i went from power amp to vanilla music player but lately I've been really feeling emersys 3d music player...best audio I've heard so far through my headphones, gonna mess with it a lil while longer to test for bugs if im still happy with it I'll buy the premium version.
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If you have to ask, then you don't deserve this phone. Go and get a Samsung Galaxy phone.
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jamesc760 said:
If you have to ask, then you don't deserve this phone. Go and get a Samsung Galaxy phone.
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Hey I'm asking just to make sure that I don't make a mistake I made with HTC twice. I have never owned a Samsung phone and never will.....I sincerely hate touchwiz!
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mubby93 said:
Hey I'm asking just to make sure that I don't make a mistake I made with HTC twice. I have never owned a Samsung phone and never will.....I sincerely hate touchwiz!
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This is realy a great phone, it is fast and fluid, esasy to root and restore, no hassle with unlocking bootloaders and loosing warranty. A very good screen and very active development and a descent price for the device. I didn`t regret buying this phone for a second.

jamesc760 said:
If you have to ask, then you don't deserve this phone. Go and get a Samsung Galaxy phone.
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dont be a ****

T-mobile is a bit like the mafia when it comes to the contract - be sure you are ready to make a long-term commitment
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I would save the extra money and get the phone without contract and go with something like straight talk or t-mobile's
Prepaid plan.
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44BSD said:
T-mobile is a bit like the mafia when it comes to the contract - be sure you are ready to make a long-term commitment
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fordraimo said:
I would save the extra money and get the phone without contract and go with something like straight talk or t-mobile's
Prepaid plan.
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What do u guys mean? How is it like the mafia? It's a two year contract and when it ends, it ends?!?!?!?!
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Dunno what they mean but its still always a better value to get it from the play store, then you are not locked into the contract. You can use ST as an MNVO and get the same signal you would with T-Mobile but for $25 less (comparing to the contract plan) a month. If you do the math youd realize that the contract route costs more money.

Oh I see. No I'm getting a family plan and I get a 12% discount through my school.
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One of the best phones I've owned. IMO: Pros: IPS, the feel, size (fits well on my hand), jb is smooth. cons: miss the home button from the iphone and spend too much time on xda.

Thinking of buying N4

Hi guys, I'm thinking of buying a N4 in a month or so, and just wanted to ask for your opinions and thoughts about this phone. Thanks

DarkLP said:
Hi guys, I'm thinking of buying a N4 in a month or so, and just wanted to ask for your opinions and thoughts about this phone. Thanks
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Worth the $350 I paid for it. Nice screen. Feels solid in hand. Performs well. Oh and its a nexus.
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i personally own a htc one s and thought about buying a nexus 4 as well. i think its a great phone with great hardware and a nice design. especially the white one looks fantastic in my opinion. the only thing i dont like that much is the backside of it.. i dont like the glass there, thats why i will wait for the hopefully soon releasibg nexus 5
cheers
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robin216 said:
i personally own a htc one s and thought about buying a nexus 4 as well. i think its a great phone with great hardware and a nice design. especially the white one looks fantastic in my opinion. the only thing i dont like that much is the backside of it.. i dont like the glass there, thats why i will wait for the hopefully soon releasibg nexus 5
cheers
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Define "soon" . you may be waiting until around November or so. I think the back glass itself is sleek as all hell. I'm just afraid of breaking it. So I put it in a case where I don't get to enjoy its beauty.
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i am praying every evening that google release it the next day
yes, i would also use a case, but the back of the n4 is too nice :/
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Here's what I said in a thread of someone asking if it's worth it. Basically: you should buy it.
Johmama said:
The main pros of the Nexus 4 that I keep listing anytime I tell people about it are the following:
1. Price. $350 is pretty much half the price of any other competitor to the Nexus 4
2. Pure Android, updated directly from Google. As soon as a new version of Android is released, it's on the Nexus. Google develops Android FOR this device.
3. Design. Glass front and back, it's a solid phone. Looks sleek.
Now, newly-released phones do have slightly better hardware. But we're getting to the point of diminishing returns. We're packing so much hardware into these devices, you'll hard-pressed to find software that actually makes use of it. I think the only debate you should be having is buy the Nexus 4 now, or wait until the next Nexus comes out, possible during the holidays. That isn't to say this phone won't still be a solid phone then, but I can understand if some people wait to buy updated versions.
To answer your question: yes. It is definitely worth it. At $350, it's fiscally irresponsible NOT to buy a Nexus 4. Right now I'm paying $30/mo for a tablet plan on AT&T with 3gb of data. Having weird and crazy options like that don't seem to happen with other phones. I feel like the Nexus 4 is YOUR phone, not 80% your phone, 20% the manufacturer's.
Spoiler alert: I might be a little biased, but c'mon. It's a sweet phone.
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Ringke fusion has a transparent back, nice case also.
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Do it. Don't ask questions. Do it. You will NOT regret it. I've had mine for about 5 days. It's fantastic.
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You're falling further behind, get it asap and let the good times roll!

Thanks everyone for replies, especially @Johmama . How's the battery life and speaker sound? I wish I could buy it now, but I have tickets to pay so I have to wait a month

Not to mention the strong development support, if you're the adventurous type it's nearly impossible to hard-brick a Nexus.
Pure Android (AOSP) is rather nice by itself and I could live with that, but I like to go custom a bit .

DarkLP said:
Thanks everyone for replies, especially @Johmama . How's the battery life and speaker sound? I wish I could buy it now, but I have tickets to pay so I have to wait a month
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Well battery isn't as long as say a Galaxy S3 with a 7000mAh extended battery on it. The N4 uses a 2100mAh battery and depending on your usage, it could last maybe 4 hours of constant screen usage at full brightness (screen takes most the battery), or it can last over 21 with the occasional checking of facbook, emails, etc once every couple of hours.
Here's a screenshot when I finally got it down to zero percent. (it stayed idle overnight as I slept, and then I used it here and there during the day.)

AIDAKU said:
This is nexus forum...What do you expect nexus owners to tell you...
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LoL, true we may be bias, but I'll at least tell you quirks I've noticed. Even so I'd still pick an N4 unless all the other brands want to ship full AOSP at the same price and include extras like maybe a micro-SD card slot or replaceable battery . I kind of wish you could use USB-OTG without a 5V adapter, but I don't use my phone the same way I use my Tablet.

DarkLP said:
Thanks everyone for replies, especially @Johmama . How's the battery life and speaker sound? I wish I could buy it now, but I have tickets to pay so I have to wait a month
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It usually lasts me the whole day until late. I'm not constantly using it, however. I'm on all stock so you'd get much better battery running a different kernel and rom

AIDAKU said:
This is nexus forum...What do you expect nexus owners to tell you...
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Well I'm not buying a phone of any of you, so it's not like someone has to advertise it so I'd buy it. That's why I asked in N4 forum, because all of you have N4.

Basic stuff like Wifi and 3G data have hardware or driver problems. I sometimes wish I'd paid $100 more for a phone that has had more testing/QA. (Not sure there is a better phone for only $100 more, though.) I still prefer this phone to the SGS3, which has fundamentally bad OS design and poor compatibility with third party Android builds.

Custom Moto X Parts?

Here's my thought:
Those of use who were unable to use motomaker on verizon and soon other companies, why could we not just buy the parts from a third party and customize ourselves?
I think it would be relatively easy compared to a screen replacement.
Where would we go about doing such a thing? Has anyone heard of anything like this? I think it would be easy and a great way for everyone to be able to have a custom moto x.

apetrok91 said:
Here's my thought:
Those of use who were unable to use motomaker on verizon and soon other companies, why could we not just buy the parts from a third party and customize ourselves?
I think it would be relatively easy compared to a screen replacement.
Where would we go about doing such a thing? Has anyone heard of anything like this? I think it would be easy and a great way for everyone to be able to have a custom moto x.
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I'd love to see phones being made with replaceable snap-on plates, like the old Nokias. Only issue would be, there would be no way to stop people from using tacky designs from some cheap 3rd party plate makers.

Have you seen the ifixit teardown? It might take a bit of effort to take off the backplate, and a new one might end up coming loose.
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iandr0idos said:
Have you seen the ifixit teardown? It might take a bit of effort to take off the backplate, and a new one might end up coming loose.
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Personally it looks exactly like the Original Razr and that wasnt too hard. I've replaced parts on those before the back isnt that hard to take off and sticks again well, their adhesive is very strong.

apetrok91 said:
Personally it looks exactly like the Original Razr and that wasnt too hard. I've replaced parts on those before the back isnt that hard to take off and sticks again well, their adhesive is very strong.
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Maybe this site will eventually stock all colors?
http://www.etradesupply.com/replacement-part-for-motorola-moto-x-battery-door.html

Review: Motorola Moto X for Verizon Wireless

The review also lists out the bloatware.
http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=14611

It's good that Verizon didn't mess with it too much at least.

The more I read about this phone the more I'm going away from it. Was really exited for this phone but I really can't regress in battery life and lose wireless charging and no SD card is ruining it for me. I keep trying to justify buying it, but don't think I can do it. Im currently on a G2, which from most reviews still rates higher.
I guess I'll wait and see what this Droid Turbo has to offer. At this point I only think I would need root for a current moto phone.
Just my opinion.

So where the heck is it

So, not a readable display in the outdoors!!
Here we go again? Same as last x?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/fyi-dim-screen-moto-white-glove-t2753559

aviwdoowks said:
So, not a readable display in the outdoors!!
Here we go again? Same as last x?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/fyi-dim-screen-moto-white-glove-t2753559
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I'm I missing something? This thread is from the OG X section and the last post is 7/14 ... way before the 2nd Gen X was available
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aviwdoowks said:
So, not a readable display in the outdoors!!
Here we go again? Same as last x?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/fyi-dim-screen-moto-white-glove-t2753559
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Blah, the 2014 X is perfectly readable in direct sunlight, even when I have polarized sunglasses on. Unless you're purposely trying to read thousand page novels in direct sunlight you're fine.

Where's my verizon x 2014

tacosrdelicioso said:
Where's my verizon x 2014
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Looks like the 26th with possible free promo
http://phandroid.com/2014/09/19/moto-x-2nd-gen-verizon-sept-26/

Wonder if the promo is with a white front because of the shortage of black. Would consider white but all the sensors are too noticeable.

Verizon Moto X available in stores (and on line) tomorrow (9/26), as predicted by many websites.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/news...r-for-verizon-wireless-available-sept-26.html

What time???!

None mentioned ... I'd assume midnight??
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Just ordered mine!

I ordered mine like around one. Estimated delivery 10/1

Got mine ordered around 5:30 this morning ... Estimated delivery - 10/2
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I want to pull the trigger on one but I can't live without at least root. If there was a Dev Edition I already would have.
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Ordered mine at 1230, eta of 8/1. I was gonna get the Pure but they didn't have 32gb. When I checked this morning, they had it so I tried to have it changed over the phone. They were too far into the process. I'll have to return it and go that route. Not sure what I'll do. My lack of patience got me. It'll be hard to get that box on Wednesday and not open it. No one's fault but mine... I use LMT/PIE on all my devices so root is important to me.
Edit: now I see why I've been seeing multiple duplicate posts

dutchy716 said:
I want to pull the trigger on one but I can't live without at least root. If there was a Dev Edition I already would have.
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I'm in the same boat. I really want this device, but just cannot do without root.

I pulled the trigger anyway. Where there's a will there's a way

Got a new Moto X today

Model XT1053. Came with 4.4.3. I set up my Google account and accepted to OTA update to 4.4.4. After the update was complete, the picture I have for my wallpaper on my current phone was the wallpaper on the Moto X. I'm not sure if I'm impressed or frightened. Maybe both!?
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Is it Fragile?????
lmacmil said:
Model XT1053. Came with 4.4.3. I set up my Google account and accepted to OTA update to 4.4.4. After the update was complete, the picture I have for my wallpaper on my current phone was the wallpaper on the Moto X. I'm not sure if I'm impressed or frightened. Maybe both!?
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How does it feel in the hand? I've heard from many that its fragile and breaks easily if dropped (the screen). Whats your first impression of the device

lmacmil said:
Model XT1053. Came with 4.4.3. I set up my Google account and accepted to OTA update to 4.4.4. After the update was complete, the picture I have for my wallpaper on my current phone was the wallpaper on the Moto X. I'm not sure if I'm impressed or frightened. Maybe both!?
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Do you back up your system with Google? When you first set it up, it will ask you to do this

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How does it feel in the hand? I've heard from many that its fragile and breaks easily if dropped (the screen). Whats your first impression of the device
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It feels great in the hand! Such a nice size and feel. I don't think its fragile, its pretty solid but I can see the screen breaking if it fell from too high or landed at hte wrong angle. Most of hte times I've dropped it, it was in a TPU case so never had any issues. The few times I've dropped it without a case have been on carpet. Also it is a little slippery without the textured back or a rubbery case, and I could see it easily falling. I think the screen is gorilla glass 3 so it should be as durable as most other phones.

unlock moto x at&t
Hi everyone, I got a moto x about two mounths ago and still I can`t use it cause it locked by AT&T and there is nothing I can do. I tried to get code via special services but nothing. I tried to got it through motorolla company but also nothing. Is there anyone who can help me? To get code I need to be a customer of AT&T company but they don`t work in my country.
Thank you for your attention.

You can probably get it unlocked through an unlocking service I would imagine...? I'm sure for under $25

Does it have Google Now or any Motorola app? I'm thinking of buying one. I want to have just a pico GApps. I don't mind flashing a custom ROM but will it lose all the features like shaking it to turn the camera on or wake it up ...?

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You can probably get it unlocked through an unlocking service I would imagine...? I'm sure for under $25
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unfortunatlly all of my attempts didn`t lead to a good result. And now I am in dispair. If someone got att account and is ready to help me it wiil be perfect and I will not leave it witout a reward.