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Anyone notice that it looks like the hardware for the front camera is there on the vibrant? Any chance that could be activated and used with a new rom?
Lol, it's not a FFC.
Apparently you skipped over the stickied thread at the top that says "Read Before Posting" ...this has nothing to do with development.
But to answer your question, that isn't a camera. It's a proximity and light sensor.
When I first looked at my phone out of the box, I was REALLY excited about that as well.
Than my brain kicked in out of my geek coma I was in and realized that it was just sensors.
Reports and reviews from overseas basically say the FFC is basically a POS and really never gets used much for anything.
Basically it's about as powerful as a gameboy camera with ****ty resolution.
I don't miss it.
Someone please delete or at least lock this thread.
androidmonkey said:
Anyone come up with a mod yet to solder LED light on the back of the camera?
Hell, lets make it with 3 LEDs, convert the prox sensor to a FFC, and finally dip the phone in stainless steel so we can have a metal coating....
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Haha better yet gold so its balling out of control. but where are all the rom files i just got rid of my hero and used to flash that thing everyday people need to step it up and get workng on some roms so i can test them and see whats good or bad with them.
From what i am told. The little thing on the front of the phone is a proximety sensor and something else. I always thought it was the cam. and we just had to enable it
but, I guess thats not the case.
HI,
Unfortunately, the front camera does not exist on the vibrant or captivate.
The camera hole would be located to the right of the speaker slit.
There is no hole there.
Probably left out to reduce costs.
It is only on the euro models.
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Anyone notice that it looks like the hardware for the front camera is there on the vibrant? Any chance that could be activated and used with a new rom?
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can understand your excitement OP, but alas!
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Like it has a spring inside?
No, I'm not kidding here!
Hold the phone between your index finger and thumb about 1/4 way from the bottom and tap the back near the camera while listening. You can actually feel it too, like there is a spring inside. Not sure if it's the battery terminals or the display inside. I have the 16GB Korean model if that makes any difference.
I will try using the voice recorder to see if it can be recorded in case nobody else's phone does this. I've had it in many different cases as well, does not make any difference in the sound.
EDIT: The voice recorder and video camera (using the same mic) do not pic up this "anomaly". It would have to be recorded with another device.
cpufrost said:
Like it has a spring inside?
No, I'm not kidding here!
Hold the phone between your index finger and thumb about 1/4 way from the bottom and tap the back near the camera while listening. You can actually feel it too, like there is a spring inside. Not sure if it's the battery terminals or the display inside. I have the 16GB Korean model if that makes any difference.
I will try using the voice recorder to see if it can be recorded in case nobody else's phone does this. I've had it in many different cases as well, does not make any difference in the sound.
EDIT: The voice recorder and video camera (using the same mic) do not pic up this "anomaly". It would have to be recorded with another device.
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How often do you go around tapping your phone with it up to your ear?
I think it's either the camera lens or the vibration module. This is very normal, don't worry about it.
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How often do you go around tapping your phone with it up to your ear?
I think it's either the camera lens or the vibration module. This is very normal, don't worry about it.
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Just curious as to what's inside causing this. I felt it, if you hold it up to your ear you can hear a distinct "boing" when it's tapped.
Speaking of camera lens is the "stabilizer" function of the camera digital or active, i.e. suspended elements servo controlled, etc. ?
None of my other phones do this.
Some may call me crazy, but I do enjoy that sound. Not quite as good as the ting my s2 used to make doing the same thing
I get it too. Not worried about it.
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s4 weird feel
I noticed that too and they replicated that feel to the charger that came with it. kinda weird.
same here
i have it also...and is actually very bad. i tried to get it replaced, but the guys from samsung said it's normal and it will not affect the hardware of the phone. the phone is working great...without any problems,lags or errors so i think i will leave it that way. i watched a video on youtube about how to disassemble the s4, and i think is the vibrator motor. i hope so...because if is not the next think would be the display. if someone has any other clues please let us know
Its just the vibration module, the force makes it spin slightly causing the "springy" feeling like a light vibration, same with plugging your charger in its just haptic feedback bud
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Update: According to this site, 'magnetic input' does not work with original Moto G:
http://gweb-cardboard.appspot.com/#compatibility
Update #2: Should work with Moto G LTE since it has an actual Gyroscope.
Update #3: I've ordered one to experiment; since it's cheap and it cannot be absolutely verified it will not work with Moto G's hardware. For example, the issues might only be with the official Cardboard app (and alternative apps are fine), or a custom ROM might enable it to work correctly.
interesting... please report if it works on an original moto g (no lte)
I will be testing with an original Moto G (XT1032), but it could be a few weeks before the headset arrives. Order still not even dispatched according to the website.
UPDATE: I've just read existing stock sold out and there won't be more until 29th September. I might not get the item now until mid/late October / early November.
ordered it 2 weeks ago. today I got this:
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My order status has now changed:
Order Status: Shipped
If using the magnet proves impossible with Moto G (1st Gen) - there is an alternative control option (other than just using your finger):
According to the Google cardboard official website, the magnet is used for clicking inside of demos. When you pull and release the ring, your phone's magnetometer detects changes in the magnetic field. Not all phones will be able to detect magnet pulls.
You can use Cardboard without the magnet by sticking copper tape along the side of the viewer and having it come into contact with the phone screen. When you tap twice on the copper tape with your finger, the phone will react as if it had detected a magnet pull.[Source]
If you want to make things a bit smoother, you can add a copper strip to the side, tape one end to your phone's screen and close it up - a double-tap on the strip will register as a screen-tap.[Source]
Although the [headset] works with any modern Android phone, it was designed for the Nexus 5. Many people reported problems with the magnetic sensor. That's because it's not in the same place on all phones. Having a slightly unusual phone, I ended up using a strip of cardboard with aluminum foil tape to do the same job.[Source]
i received my google cardboard today from a chinese supplier on aliexpress. assembled it and used it a little.
im using Moto G 2013 no lte version
my mini review
1. the magnet does not work, so the google cardboard apps are pretty much useless. but you can poke the display with your finger through the nose hole to activate the app.
2. again, the cardboard apps are rendered useless with the lack of gyroscope for linear motion sensing. so head tracking are out of the scope. the only apps that work pretty well without the gyro are rollercoaster vr with some degree of head tracking using accelerometer.
3. playing "3D side by side(sbs) video" on youtube is pleasant for me. its like having a big tv. the 3d effect turn out to be like the one you experience in a cinema with black&clear 3d glass.
4. for someone who are not used to wear any glass, like me. having to watch anything through a lens is a bit headache inducing experience. be warned.
5. 720p nature of our display is not forgiving when paired with the cardboard's lens. i can start seeing individual pixels, and even subpixel(rgb) if i focus enough on one spot.
anyway, i am pretty sure if you got a better spec'ed phone. the experience will be light years away from what i experienced just now.
@urra901109, can I just clarify what ROM you did your tests on? From my experience the Motorola Stock ROM does not necessarily indicate what is possible with the hardware. I won't be satisfied until tests are done with pure CyanogenMod and/or CarbonROM.
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@urra901109, can I just clarify what ROM you did your tests on? From my experience the Motorola Stock ROM does not necessarily indicate what is possible with the hardware. I won't be satisfied until tests are done with pure CyanogenMod and/or CarbonROM.
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i used the stock ROM.. but i think it will be pretty much the same across all ROM since most of what i talked is regarding hardware limitation(magnet sensor, and gyroscope) on the phone itself. i did enjoy it a for while with the 3d videos. but, later a headache caught me
ps: to overcome the gyroscope absence in this phone, i did connect it to xbox360 controller with the hope i can use right analog stick to pan left and right but no success on that, none of the VR apps i downloaded support the right analog stick. only the left analog is working.
Miracast is broken in stock ROM and works fine in CM / CarbonROM. Motorola have deliberately limited functionality in that case and who knows in what other instances.
I found it fairly poor with the Moto G. As reported, not only does the magnetic trigger not work, but the Moto G accelerometers don't work to control movement. The Google Cardboard demo app is fairly useless without that. Also the optics are fairly bad for the 4.5" screen of the Moto G. Probably a happier combo with the Nexus 5. Update: Yes, I tried it with a friend's Nexus 5, and it's much better. Do not buy the Cardboard kit unless you have a Nexus phone.
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I found it fairly poor with the Moto G. As reported, not only does the magnetic trigger not work, but the Moto G accelerometers don't work to control movement. The Google Cardboard demo app is fairly useless without that. Also the optics are fairly bad for the 4.5" screen of the Moto G. Probably a happier combo with the Nexus 5.
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i am quite dissapointed too with the absence of gyroscope in the first gen MOTO G, since head tracking is the whole idea about this VR thing. It is likely to cost a few cent more to add the sensor but they skipped on it. it is understandable though that they dont include it as the sensor are rarely used. but yesterday i had an idea about external usb gyro sensor. any one know if such a thing exists? may be we can use it without buying a new phone.
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i used galaxy note 3 with the google cardboard yesterday. it is much more enjoyable.. the screen door effect is not very pronounced like there is with first gen moto G. but the cardboard need some modification to make it focus properly and a few more hole to make it fit the Note 3, otherwise the lid will continously pressed on the volume button and power button
I guess I don't understand why they can't use the accelerometers in place of a dedicated gyroscopic sensor. In theory a 3-axis accelerometer should be able to do the exact same job, since it is impossible to move in any direction, including rotation, without causing an acceleration in one or more of the 3 axes.
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I guess I don't understand why they can't use the accelerometers in place of a dedicated gyroscopic sensor. In theory a 3-axis accelerometer should be able to do the exact same job, since it is impossible to move in any direction, including rotation, without causing an acceleration in one or more of the 3 axes.
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i dont get it either. on google streetview the simulated gyro does the job pretty flawlessly although a bit laggy but it is perfectly usable.
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i dont get it either. on google streetview the simulated gyro does the job pretty flawlessly although a bit laggy but it is perfectly usable.
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That is so cool! I had no idea that was possible now. And yes, you're right, it does illustrate exactly that there is no need for a gyroscopic sensor to use Cardboard apps. I wish Google would fix that.
I also wish Google would fix the magnetic declination issue in Google Maps. Where I am in Vancouver, the compass points 16 degrees off true north, so anything using compass north (like Streetview or navigation) is off by 16 degrees from the real world view unless corrected. It's not like Maps doesn't know the compass error from your current location, so it should be trivial to do the correction.
It might not be too much work for a DEV to have an option 'Use Accelerometer instead of Gyroscopic sensor' in their app / game. It's worth at least asking.
so on a moto g xt1033 this would not work ? even tho Google Night sky app works ?
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so on a moto g xt1033 this would not work ? even tho Google Night sky app works ?
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Correct.
Any update on the Moto G front?
Hi! Anyone still trying to make it work with the Moto G first gen?
I'm not a techie at all but I really really want to play with the Cardboard. And there is this cool kit for sale on Amazon now.
Its been a while since the last post so I'm hoping some clever person has come up with a way to make the accelerometer work.?
No cardboard navigation on Moto G(2013)
vocalico said:
interesting... please report if it works on an original moto g (no lte)
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I have the original moto g(2013) and cardboard navigation doesn't work on this model. As the gyroscope is missing. Only accelerometer doesn't help. And the magnet clicker is also not working may be because of weak magnetometer. Other features are working as expected.
there was this hype about the 2014 design for moto smartphones x, g and e, and only now I noticed that the 2 grills on the front are NOT stereo speakers. top one only works for phone calls, and bottom one acts as a loud speaker for music, notifications, speaker phone, etc.
who started this thing about stereo speakers anyway? kinda disappointing
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who started this thing about stereo speakers anyway? kinda disappointing
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Clueless tech bloggers making assumptions rather than waiting for facts.
Yeah a few devs were trying to see if they could activate the top speaker for music but I don't think that it is going anywhere.
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Yeah theres a thread for it on here. Needs root.
What I don't understand is that the moto G which is cheaper has stereo speakers but the moto x doesn't
I don't believe moto G has stero speakers either.. does it?
The second generation G does have stereo speakers, but I do believe the single one on the X is better. Obviously the stereo effect is nice but im fine with it.
The Moto X was never claimed to have stereo speakers.
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The Moto X was never claimed to have stereo speakers.
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A lot of the reviewers said it was but with a lot of them I have learned to take what they say with a pinch of salt.
I think it have something to the do with the Moto X noise canceling technology and it's 4 microphones.
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I think it have something to the do with the Moto X noise canceling technology and it's 4 microphones.
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Why would that prevent them from including stereo speakers?
I've seen one blog mention that the moto x play doesn't have dual speakers, but can anyone confirm this?
It seems like a huge oversight and deal breaker to me if it doesn't, seeing as the g and style do.
tbh there probably using the same housing as they did in the droid turbo and therefore only having one speaker would make sense BUT i really hope theres two speakers, not a deal breaker for me but just annoying.
Having one front firing speaker is 1000000000x better than a rear and side firing.
Yeah that would make sense but that's really disappointing if so. One front firing speaker is definitely better but when you turn the phone on it's side its really annoying hearing the sound so loudly from one side.
The already announced at their event that it has stereo speakers on the front.
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The already announced at their event that it has stereo speakers on the front.
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They announced this for the Style. Correct me if I'm wrong.
It has just one speaker like the 2nd Moto X.
Only the Moto X style has two speakers, both the G and the X play have only one.
Please have a look at this :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/development/mod-oneplus-one-stereo-mod-t2967925
If this is achievable on the oneplus-one, why not on our device.. It will have a more natural stereo output than the OPO...
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Please have a look at this :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/development/mod-oneplus-one-stereo-mod-t2967925
If this is achievable on the oneplus-one, why not on our device.. It will have a more natural stereo output than the OPO...
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I hope a dev makes a similar mod for our device.. Only thing I am missing are the stereo speakers[emoji3]
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I can confirm that the Moto X Play XT1562 only has a mono speaker.
I'm German and even I know that it's "they're" not "there" ...
Shockz said:
The already announced at their event that it has stereo speakers on the front.
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Stop lying man
I don't know if anyone watching this thread, but I want to share something with you guys.
I've got my Moto X Play (XT1562; no carrier) a week ago.
I'm listening to the official FM radio app right now, and suddenly realized that the sound is coming from lower half of the phone, which obviously means that this model has two speakers on its front panel.
However, the radio sound isn't coming from the upper speaker at all, so, maybe the upper speaker is for phone call purpose only.
Can anyone confirm it or hack into it?
sorry for my bad English
nns774 said:
I don't know if anyone watching this thread, but I want to share something with you guys.
I've got my Moto X Play (XT1562; no carrier) a week ago.
I'm listening to the official FM radio app right now, and suddenly realized that the sound is coming from lower half of the phone, which obviously means that this model has two speakers on its front panel.
However, the radio sound isn't coming from the upper speaker at all, so, maybe the upper speaker is for phone call purpose only.
Can anyone confirm it or hack into it?
sorry for my bad English [emoji14]
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Only the bottom one is main speaker.
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It is literally the same as the vast majority of phones.... A speaker towards the bottom, and an earpiece at the top for calls.
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soo any hack to activate the 2nd front speaker as loud speaker also?