I am keeping my Note 4 until there is a no compromise "Next Big Thing" Here is my must haves to leave my beloved Note 4.....
1. Root
2. 5.7" display minimum >400dpi
3. Removable battery >3000
4. SD slot
5. IR blaster
6. 3 gig RAM minimum
7. OIS + Excellent in low light
8. USB C
9. Good speaker(Not on back)
10. Wireless and fast charging
11. Quad Core Processor
Will the upcoming LG 4G Pro be the one or the next Nexus? If not I'll be waiting with my N4 in hand. No more non-rootable phablets for me.
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This is my checklist too. The only thing I would add is multi tasking capabilites, like multi window and floating windows. A stylus would be nice too (for taking notes at work), but not required.
Sadly, I think I'll be holding on to my Note 4 for a long time, unless Samsung gets their act together on the Note 6.
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Id also like to keep the IR blaster too
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tbparkey said:
I am keeping my Note 4 until there is a no compromise "Next Big Thing" Here is my must haves to leave my beloved Note 4.....
1. Root
2. 5.7" display minimum >400dpi
3. Removable battery >3000
4. SD slot
5. IR blaster
6. 3 gig RAM minimum
7. OIS + Excellent in low light
8. USB C
9. Good speaker(Not on back)
10. Wireless and fast charging
11. Quad Core Processor
Will the upcoming LG 4G Pro be the one or the next Nexus? If not I'll be waiting with my N4 in hand. No more non-rootable phablets for me.
Did I miss something?
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But Samsung already moved to 4GB of ram. And don't forget it's LPD, DDR4 ram while some use DDR3 still.
Plus a big one for me is not just display size and ppi, but Amoled. Especially the ones in the Galaxy that draw much less power while having higher brightness and calibration options to boot.
And their Octa Core is the best out currently. But a good quad can get it done.
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That new Asus Preditor 6 with 6 inch 1080p display, 4 speakers, and Helio X20 chip, and a super awesome design all built around gaming looks pretty sweet. Just wish it was Amoled.
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I expect I'll be compromising a bit and get the Hwawei Nexus 6. I'm sick of a rootless (permanent) phone and won't wait for everything on that list. I do not expect you will find a phone with everything. I hope someone makes one, though!
Wishing the Moto X Pure was AMOLED and had OIS.
The new Sony Z5 Premium sounds delectable. Unfortunately, if it makes it's way to Verizon, it will never see an update and probably be customized and ruined.
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Wishing the Moto X Pure was AMOLED and had OIS.
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agreed. I tried the note 5 and sold it. hoping moto x takes the crown. still cant beat my note 4 developer edition!
I think all that is a good checklist, but i would add dual front facing speakers, or at LEAST make the single speaker front facing. I mean whos bright idea was it to let everyone else hear your shiz?
Thinking the closest thing to that maybe the Moto Force/bounce/ ?
tbparkey said:
I am keeping my Note 4 until there is a no compromise "Next Big Thing" Here is my must haves to leave my beloved Note 4.....
1. Root
2. 5.7" display minimum >400dpi
3. Removable battery >3000
4. SD slot
5. IR blaster
6. 3 gig RAM minimum
7. OIS + Excellent in low light
8. USB C
9. Good speaker(Not on back)
10. Wireless and fast charging
11. Quad Core Processor
Will the upcoming LG 4G Pro be the one or the next Nexus? If not I'll be waiting with my N4 in hand. No more non-rootable phablets for me.
Did I miss something?
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I really the Xperia Z5 Premium was coming to Verizon. Seems to hit most of those blocks. No removable battery, but the security has been lacking in the past, so hopefully it will see root soon.
So really what's the next move? I have a note 4 DE. What's out there on Verizon that's a rootable unlocked bootloader upgrade for me?
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So really what's the next move? I have a note 4 DE. What's out there on Verizon that's a rootable unlocked bootloader upgrade for me?
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Nexus 6p? Fingers crossed. Might be the one. Drops in a few days.
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Nexus 6p? Fingers crossed. Might be the one. Drops in a few days.
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possibly if the nexus isnt great i am just getting a note 5 again. it is really a beast
New nexus devices look promising based on the current Google announcement. Hoping the camera is actually comparable to the Note 4 in real world conditions. That's a big deal breaker for me..
Nexus 6p falls short on IR, removable battery, and Ext SD. Fingers crossed for LG G4 Pro.
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New nexus devices look promising based on the current Google announcement. Hoping the camera is actually comparable to the Note 4 in real world conditions. That's a big deal breaker for me..
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No OIS is a big miss for the camera quality. I am really disappointed in the Nexus 6p. No reason to give up N4 yet.
Looks like the LG V10 hits most of my list. No IR blaster or USB C. These might be wants more than needs. If they get root on the Verizon Retail I'm in. Anyone else?
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Looks like the LG V10 hits most of my list. No IR blaster or USB C. These might be wants more than needs. If they get root on the Verizon Retail I'm in. Anyone else?
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I read a few sites that list the IR blaster as a feature of the device. One such below.
Look pretty promising:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/10/01/hands-on-with-the-lg-v10/
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I read a few sites that list the IR blaster as a feature of the device. One such below.
Look pretty promising:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/10/01/hands-on-with-the-lg-v10/
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Will this device ever see root on Verizon?
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Nexus 5 released a day back and the specs are not that bad if we see. Now this has given rise to a hunger of having an official google product in me. I use my note 2 like crazy and love it too but I want to see how it feels having a nexus device.
Storage is one thing that still makes me think of retaining my Note 2. I dont use SPen much either. Nexus 5 looks strong on paper and its tempting me. Is it advisable to sell my Note 2 off and get a Nexus 5?
I am in same situation but specs are really a boost from note 2 but major flaws of nexus 5 are storage and battery life....though I really want to see the display comparison....is the nexus 5 display better than note 2's...I know its 1080p compared to 720p but I really saw some 1080p display looking worse than 720p's like xperia z1....
I will wait for some reviews and then will decide is it worth to upgrade..
The Nexus 5 compared to Note 2 , looks like cheep, plastic, smaller and non Spen device.
Next Move will bring us to Note 4.
And the answer is no way to abandon my Note 2.
Performance on the Nexus 5 will be superior. That Snapdragon 800 screams.
The main issue is battery life. A petty 2300mha battery for a 5 inch 1080p display... It's going to suck.
Screen is slightly smaller with more pixels. But it won't be as jumping with colors as it's an LCD type screen vs our AMOLED screens which pop with colors.
The performance will be much better on the Nexus 5. Better processor. Same RAM. Better GPU. More FREE ram at boot.
Now, if I didn't have the Note 2 and I were to buy a new device, I'd get the Nexus 5. But I think the Note 2 is superior FOR MY USAGE. The SPen helps a lot, and the extra screen is great. The screen is plenty packed with pixels for my usage, too. The 2GB ram is great. In fact, the Note 3 having 3GB isn't an upgrade as you have LESS FREE RAM AT BOOT than the Note 2! WTF Samsung! haha. Anyways, RAM is taken care of by the Android OS. But Samsung takes up too much ram to begin with.
With Nexus devices you won't have that issue, as there is nothing at boot extra. It's only Android processes. So it should run much more smoothly. My Note 2 does stutter or lag a little every once in a while, but it doesn't bother me in the slightest.
I don't know... Battery life on both devices are different. Smaller with updated processors vs bigger battery with less efficient display & processor? I don't know... Wait for some battery tests? Regardless, I've never killed my Note 2 in 18 hours except for my vacation days where I'm on a bus or train for 5-6 hours then I get it down a nice amount.
i was also thinking into a change to a nexus but the battery definitely make me consider having my note a year more. i bought the note for screen and battery and mexus doesn't win at any. moreover i dt know any game yet that doesn't run smoothly in the note and the screen difference is not that noticeable since my cousin has a 1080p screen and mine seems to be better also for him.
my 2 cents
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of course Nexus 5. Note 2 will get its last update with Android 4.3 Jelly Bean. But you will have many updates with Nexus 5. If you are not a traveller person, don't think about battery life. Buy 32 gb model and live your days good.
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Nexus 5 released a day back and the specs are not that bad if we see. Now this has given rise to a hunger of having an official google product in me. I use my note 2 like crazy and love it too but I want to see how it feels having a nexus device.
Storage is one thing that still makes me think of retaining my Note 2. I dont use SPen much either. Nexus 5 looks strong on paper and its tempting me. Is it advisable to sell my Note 2 off and get a Nexus 5?
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Non removable battery (instant deal killer right there for me), small and non expandable storage (32GB vs the 80GB total on my Note II), small display (even smaller than its 5" since part of that space is taken up by the virtual buttons), no S-Pen, no Samsung SW features like MultiWindow = for a poweruser they don't even play in the same league.
Samsung is doing something very stupid with the Region Lock and something less stupid but that is pissing powerusers and geeks off with the Knox warranty status but the (sad) truth is that the Note III is the ONLY smartphone out there today which I would replace my Note II with. ANYTHING else is INFERIOR to my Note II.
I gass you have very big hands to use note 3 like phone lol
Ive got note 2 yesterday and one nexus 4
Sorry but that clean android isnt for me. I prefer samsung and htc devices....not nexus
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I will get a Nexus 5 for sure to replace my backup phone HTC HD2, and will also keep my Note II forever!! unless otherwise Samsung smoehow try to screw it up with an dubious update,(yes I don't trust them anymore),I've played with a Note 3 at the store but didn't find it much an upgrade to my existing Note II.
I`d go with nexus 5..coming from note 2 user!!
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The Nexus 5 compared to Note 2 , looks like cheep, plastic
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Yea lol my Note 2's high quality aluminum construction looks so much better
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I've bought n5 and my only worry is battery. I'll tell you in a few days.
I'm happy with N2 but love nexus flavor.
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Well, If I were to buy a new phone and the Playstore sold hardware in my country, I'd seriously consider the Nexus 5.
But as an upgrade to Note 2? No way. Sure, it will run circles around the Note in the performance department... but I find that for my use, the Note's performance is sufficient (even though it lags now and then). Even for games, the lower res mens that pretty much everything runs smooth so far. And the lower res doesn't really bother me, as I find the screen of the Note 2 absolutely fantastic... better then that of HTC One, IMVHO. Xperias just can't compare. Sure some text zoomed out can be a tad sharper on 1080p, but otherwise the screen on the Note 2 is just gorgeous.
The S-Pen is usefull... especially for extending menus while browsing the web. That's one unique functionality that only a handfull of phones has and means that some webpages can only be browsed with these devices. Other tricks like video or gallery highlight thumbs are neat as well. And it's good for Excel editing too, especially during a meeting (otherwise it's quite difficult in a zoomed out view - only view in which you actually see a reasonable amount of data).
Storage? For me 16+64 GB is barely enough. Actually scratch that, 16GB internal is definately NOT enough (a bit more than 10 GB available...). I hope an update can allow me to use the external memory for apps. My memory card is almost full as well. So 32 GB altogether? No thanks (even with less bloat).
Battery? It's decent on the Note 2, but I wouldn't call it a stellar performer. So here we have a battery that's smaller by almost a third? And not removable too? I'll pass, thank you.
Plus, does the Nexus 5 even have the USB OTG capability? I remember there were some issues with the earlier models. I like to output video via MHL... love connecting an external USB drive or additional memory card via a card reader and it can be nice to connect external controllers via USB. Is Nexus 5 able to do this all?
Other stuff, primarily Multiwindow and Popup Browser are neat also. Hopefully even Pen Window will be possible on the Note 2.
duskdiyebiri said:
of course Nexus 5. Note 2 will get its last update with Android 4.3 Jelly Bean. But you will have many updates with Nexus 5. If you are not a traveller person, don't think about battery life. Buy 32 gb model and live your days good.
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It's not correct. Note 2 will get Kitkat update next year
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Think of it this way. Only for a few minor hardware boosts and a new Launcher would you really want to upgrade ?
Note 2 still stands as a power house when compared. And if you like the idea of talking to your phone start using Google Now the experience will be no diff.
On the other thoughts I would love to upgrade to Moto X if ever get an opportunity
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darkchazz said:
Yea lol my Note 2's high quality aluminum construction looks so much better
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Do let me know.
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After reading all your views I completely feel I'll have that itch with the nexus 5 when it comes to battery and storage Coz both things matter to me. I think my note 2 will stay in my pocket for comparatively good time
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I am running the Ditto note 3 rom. .. With 4.3... Note 3 apps and installed the 4.4 kit kat apps on top of it. .
I also have the nexus 7_2013.. which will get 4.4 and is similar to nexus 5.. But I rarely use it. .
I use my note 8 and note 2 more
Why would I need the nexus 5 ?... Note 2 is good enough. .
Will bother about a new phone next year
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C'mon!
Oh God! I think it makes no sense at all! Galaxy Note II is a pretty much older device which can still be compared to other TOP devices. Plus, the Note II has got touchwiz, and lots of Samsung applications which are pretty usefule. Nexus devices are a little too poor to me. I think that if you want to try out a Nexus device, you should try the Nexus 7 2013! I think that rocks. Got such a cool display, so incredibly fast and pure Google style. Plus: updates and other Nexus stuff.
Came across this comparison, Nexus 6 is superior in every way except the camera.
Nexus 6 was found to have superior:
Display (qHD)
Battery (3220mAh)
RAM (3GB)
OS (Stock Lollipop, the best!)
Price,
Other features (water resistant, wireless charging, dual speakers)
I really think Nexus 6 will sell better than previous nexus devices. While the camera is still not as good as Note 4 or iPhone 6 Plus, it is still better than most of the devices out there.
Check it out.
Source
They stated the Note 4 and Nexus 6 are a tie when it comes to the display and battery life.
Nexus 6! Game over!!
yeah im not sure about the display..in other comparisons they have stated that the note 4 panel is subtly better, with slightly crisper text and sharper image quality and i even tried to do the comparison myself and the note 4 indeed has a better display
Well I got bored waiting for my December 2 delivery so I got a note 4 to try out. I came from a note 3. It's. Nice ut frankly not that different...
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ekerbuddyeker said:
Well I got bored waiting for my December 2 delivery so I got a note 4 to try out. I came from a note 3. It's. Nice ut frankly not that different...
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How is TW? Is it really laggy and buggy or is it a bit improved?
Day 2 and I have to say that it's really not that different to the 3. The home key has real lag. I set up both devices exactly the same and ran side by side comparisons of app running time... And most times the Note 3 was faster. Weird. Will keep it for 13 days then return it and wait a week for my nexus 64gb to arrive!
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^^The home key has real lag?
I don't have any lag with the home key. Have you turned off Svoice double tap to activate feature?
These 3 phone plus the note edge are my choices for January when I get my upgrade. I have the note 3 now and I don't feel like the note 4 is worthy of the upgrade. I finally got my hands on the edge at the at&t store. I was so excited to check it out. I left the store thinking it was pretty cool but I was still underwhelmed. So now I am down to the nexus 6 and iPhone 6 plus. At this point I'm really leaning towards the 6 plus (please don't hate). It's a personal preference type of thing.
I used to love the iPhone up to the 4s. Then I couldn't stand small screen size anymore. Fortunately for me they fixed that problem now.
I can't take touchwiz any longer and all the crap Samsung has added into the phones. That's sad to say because I have had the galaxy s, s2, s3, s4 and now the note 3.
I can't wait to check out a nexus 6 to make my final decision. I feel like it is going to be a tough one
Display is a tie? What a great joke. There is a thick chance the author doesn't even own a nexus 6. I wanted to like nexus 6 sooo much, it could've been my dream phone but unfortunately, the screen can only go as bright as 278 nits vs note 4 400+ nits and upto 700 nits in extreme bright light.
So far, note 4 NAND performance is faster. Eg better read and writes. Note 4 battery lasts longer. I think we all should be realistic. How can you call it superior ?
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Came across this comparison, Nexus 6 is superior in every way except the camera.
Nexus 6 was found to have superior:
Display (qHD)
Battery (3220mAh)
RAM (3GB)
OS (Stock Lollipop, the best!)
Price,
Other features (water resistant, wireless charging, dual speakers)
I really think Nexus 6 will sell better than previous nexus devices. While the camera is still not as good as Note 4 or iPhone 6 Plus, it is still better than most of the devices out there.
Check it out.
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Note 4 display is better.
Battery is the same.
RAM is the same.
OS is irrelevant.
Price is also too close to call.
Front speakers and water resistance is it. Wireless charging is possible on the Note 4.
Do some research before spreading crap.
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Display is a tie? What a great joke. There is a thick chance the author doesn't even own a nexus 6. I wanted to like nexus 6 sooo much, it could've been my dream phone but unfortunately, the screen can only go as bright as 278 nits vs note 4 400+ nits and upto 700 nits in extreme bright light.
So far, note 4 NAND performance is faster. Eg better read and writes. Note 4 battery lasts longer. I think we all should be realistic. How can you call it superior ?
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That's on manual brightness nits don't mean everything there are other factors. All the reviewers say the screen is excellent and easy to read in day light. Gsm arena review display
The note only has faster read times because it is not fully encrypted on Lollipop. Just wait until it gets it. Also the nexus 6 is smoother than the note all around through the operating system and within apps. The battery life is similar.
dont be saying around that the nexus 6 has a very display because thats not true
ekerbuddyeker said:
Well I got bored waiting for my December 2 delivery so I got a note 4 to try out. I came from a note 3. It's. Nice ut frankly not that different...
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Really curious about how you went about "trying out the note 4". Because I am really wanting to do this exact thing with both the iPhone 6 Plus and the Note 4 to decide if I'd want to switch to iOS or continue my crapwiz adventure, or try out the N6. I am on verizon and I see they have a $35 restocking fee if you return a product within 14 days. Is their a way around this? How'd you do it? What's your carrier?
From AnandTech who does very thorough objective testing. Traditionally they're pretty rough in their Samsung reviews and fairly "pro" Nexus with value taken in to account in their findings. With pricing similar to other high-end devices the Nexus 6 and 9 can't play the value card anymore.
Battery
The first test is our WiFi web browsing test which loads a set of web pages in a loop with pauses to avoid penalizing phones with faster SoCs than others. In this test we see that the Nexus 6 does perform somewhat poorly. Compared to Samsung's Galaxy Note 4 which has essentially the same specifications on paper, the Nexus 6 lasts 4.27 hours shorter. It is likely that this can be attributed to the display, which may not be as efficient as the latest and greatest AMOLED panel used in the Note 4.
Display
Overall, the Nexus 6 display is quite poor relative to the displays on other smartphones like the Galaxy Note 4, iPhone 6, and HTC One (M7). It's also a definite regression from the display on the Nexus 5, which is concerning given the fact that the Nexus 6 is $300 more expensive. It has been speculated that Motorola is unable to source the latest generation of panels from Samsung Display, which would explain why many of the panel characteristics are similar to previous generation AMOLED panels in the Note 3 and Galaxy S4. Although the efficiency of AMOLED displays when displaying black helps to reduce power usage with features like Ambient Display which wakes up the phone when notifications arrive or it is picked up, I don't believe it's worth the trade-off if it involves such heavy sacrifices in color accuracy and brightness.
Camera
I'm very happy with the improvements Google has made to their camera on the Nexus 6. I no longer feel like Nexus devices will always be a generation behind the competition when it comes to camera quality. Google and Motorola should also congratulate themselves on their white balance algorithm which helped the Nexus 6 to take photos that better reflected how the scenes actually looked in real life. I hope Google will continue to improve their camera software to make the user interface less menu driven, and to improve capture times for photos which is the one area that the Nexus 6 really falls behind its competition.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8687/the-nexus-6-review
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Really curious about how you went about "trying out the note 4". Because I am really wanting to do this exact thing with both the iPhone 6 Plus and the Note 4 to decide if I'd want to switch to iOS or continue my crapwiz adventure, or try out the N6. I am on verizon and I see they have a $35 restocking fee if you return a product within 14 days. Is their a way around this? How'd you do it? What's your carrier?
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I went from the 6 Plus to the Note 4 then back to the 6 Plus. Bought the 6 Plus at the Apple Store and the Note 4 at Best Buy. Neither have restocking fees. Even got to keep my $200 Best Buy gift card when I returned the Note. I also have the Nexus on preorder through Motorola with a December 2nd delivery date. This is the first iPhone I've had since the 4. I'm really liking it, but also excited to try the Nexus. [emoji2]
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I currently have the 6 Plus. Not bad but Apple was not ready for the big screen. So many apps are big and clunky. I've had a lot of random reboots and the screen isn't all that special.
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How is TW? Is it really laggy and buggy or is it a bit improved?
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I went from Note 3 to 4 and the lag and fluidity improvements are quite noticeable. Here's why...
AndreiLux said:
Qualcomm ROMs also have major issues mostly regarding camera - I'm not up to date with it.
They have fixed any discernible delay and lag as far as I can see in the Note 4 (and Alpha). The lag in previous versions were due to the userspace DVFS hooks, and that got totally rewritten in the Alpha and Note 4.
And btw you can just turn off those services and replace the stock keyguard - there goes your lag.
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I went from the 6 Plus to the Note 4 then back to the 6 Plus. Bought the 6 Plus at the Apple Store and the Note 4 at Best Buy. Neither have restocking fees. Even got to keep my $200 Best Buy gift card when I returned the Note. I also have the Nexus on preorder through Motorola with a December 2nd delivery date. This is the first iPhone I've had since the 4. I'm really liking it, but also excited to try the Nexus. [emoji2]
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So you're recommending me I go through a retailer to try out these phones, and then just return before the typical 14 day policy? Did you bring it to your carrier to use it? Or did you just use it with wifi? I feel like if you went through your carrier for the service it'd cause more problems.
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So you're recommending me I go through a retailer to try out these phones, and then just return before the typical 14 day policy? Did you bring it to your carrier to use it? Or did you just use it with wifi? I feel like if you went through your carrier for the service it'd cause more problems.
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I was on the Next program with the first iPhone and a 2 year contract with the Note. Both signed through AT&T. Yes, neither retailer have restocking fees. If I would have went through AT&T they would have charged me $35 for the first one and blocked me from returning the Note. I would have been stuck. Went back to the Apple Store for my current 6 Plus.
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(It's not the note 4 but I think it's relevant here; are you gonna get it?)
We're up and the hall is PACKED. Everyone is on their devices.
A woman in tight business suit and high heels comes on stage and welcomes CEO. He has the phone in his his pocket.
Relentless Innovation. We listened, we learned, we pushed forward. We rebuilt from the ground up. The most beautiful phone Samsung have ever produced and the most advanced one in the world.
The screens that go the ENTIRE way around the hall burst into life, aaaaand....
The pictures are exactly as leaked!
As has been the discussion all week, it's the curve that they're pushing - and yes, it's gorgeous. The detail is seamless.
It remains to be seen what they're going to do with the none-curved version.
The pricing will dictate whether or not the S6 flies off the shelf - and it's availability.
I think they should have released just the curve.
There you have it.
The curve is gorgeous. Absolutely. The detail is very precise. The plain S6 is plain ugly.
And the light-up notifications thing on the edge is tickling ALL the journalists.
Will you stick to the Note 4, or switch?
Let the games begin.
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(It's not the note 4 but I think it's relevant here; are you gonna get it?)
We're up and the hall is PACKED. Everyone is on their devices.
A woman in tight business suit and high heels comes on stage and welcomes CEO. He has the phone in his his pocket.
Relentless Innovation. We listened, we learned, we pushed forward. We rebuilt from the ground up. The most beautiful phone Samsung have ever produced and the most advanced one in the world.
The screens that go the ENTIRE way around the hall burst into life, aaaaand....
The pictures are exactly as leaked!
As has been the discussion all week, it's the curve that they're pushing - and yes, it's gorgeous. The detail is seamless.
It remains to be seen what they're going to do with the none-curved version.
The pricing will dictate whether or not the S6 flies off the shelf - and it's availability.
I think they should have released just the curve.
There you have it.
The curve is gorgeous. Absolutely. The detail is very precise. The plain S6 is plain ugly.
And the light-up notifications thing on the edge is tickling ALL the journalists.
Will you stick to the Note 4, or switch?
Let the games begin.
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Regarding the S6, I don't feel the glass back and the camera sticking out as on the iPhone 6 and 6 plus...Also software wise it does look smoother but the size of the icons and the whole UI looks kinda ugly, especially the percentage bar, it's just too big...also non removable battery is a miss.
If only the note 4 would somewhat benefit from the S6's software
I think Ill stick.Note 4 has got looks but hey s6 looks like iphone 6 same rounded metal frame,same speaker style,same protruding volume buttons.Although s6 edge could be worthy to switch over but can be cleared only when they are available in stores.Except processor Note 4 has an upper hand
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I really like the design they've chosen! I've always been jealous of iPhone smooth and clean designs, now there's a similar design from Samsung. No need to get iPhone knock-offs from China with android running.
But I'll still keep my Note 4.
- 5MP Front camera, not my thing, I don't care abt selfies and Note 4's 2MP 3.7MP (Edited) works well for video chat even at low light.
-No SD-Card slot... Bumper.. The choice for buying cheap128GB SD card to store media and easily transfering between devices has been a great advantage for Samsung phones, it will be missed
(Cuz 128 GB ver. Of S6 will be much more expensive than just getting basic 32GB + 128GB SD Card)
-Wireless charging, not an issue... I put in a wireless charging receiver pad and can use qi chargers to charge. No extra bulk.
-5.7" screen of Note 4 will be much better for viewing any media!
-S-Pen... Nuff Said.
However, these are the plus points of S6,
-Speaker at the bottom! Would prefer front facing but at least better than at the back...
- Touch finger print! I've no issues with Note 4's swiping sensor, been using wit great accuracy for months... But the new one might reduce the error rate.
- Double curves on display (S6 Edge)... Its just look smooth and sexy. Less awkward than Note 4 Edge.
-eMMC faster flash memory... Hopefully it'll be like changing from a tradiotinal hardisk to an SSD. With how Lollipop's ART runtime works (fully unpacked apps), S6 will be a beast.
-Exynos for all! Will be a great performer hopefully. Although, custom firmware will be lesser, snapdragon 810 on Note 4 is one of its draw backs. Hope the Exynos will not throttle its performance so much.
Sorry for the long post. Still great devices by Samsung.
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psycovirus said:
I really like the design they've chosen! I've always been jealous of iPhone smooth and clean designs, now there's a similar design from Samsung. No need to get iPhone knock-offs from China with android running.
But I'll still keep my Note 4.
- 5MP Front camera, not my thing, I don't care abt selfies and Note 4's 2MP works well for video chat even at low light.
-No SD-Card slot... Bumper.. The choice for buying cheap128GB SD card to store media and easily transfering between devices has been a great advantage for Samsung phones, it will be missed
(Cuz 128 GB ver. Of S6 will be much more expensive than just getting basic 32GB + 128GB SD Card)
-Wireless charging, not an issue... I put in a wireless charging receiver pad and can use qi chargers to charge. No extra bulk.
-5.7" screen of Note 4 will be much better for viewing any media!
-S-Pen... Nuff Said.
However, these are the plus points of S6,
-Speaker at the bottom! Would prefer front facing but at least better than at the back...
- Touch finger print! I've no issues with Note 4's swiping sensor, been using wit great accuracy for months... But the new one might reduce the error rate.
- Double curves on display (S6 Edge)... Its just look smooth and sexy. Less awkward than Note 4 Edge.
-eMMC faster flash memory... Hopefully it'll be like changing from a tradiotinal hardisk to an SSD. With how Lollipop's ART runtime works (fully unpacked apps), S6 will be a beast.
-Exynos for all! Will be a great performer hopefully. Although, custom firmware will be lesser, snapdragon 810 on Note 4 is one of its draw backs. Hope the Exynos will not throttle its performance so much.
Sorry for the long post. Still great devices by Samsung.
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The Note 4 has a 3.7MP front camera...
The only thing which I like on the S6 is the 64bit processor, new camera UI and the speaker on the bottom.
Without microsd, its crap.
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Without microsd, its crap.
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I originally thought that too, but when I really think about it, I could actually do without the MicroSD. For sale, Note 4U with extra battery, 2 cases, Gear VR, used once, for best offer!! Nuff said!
I like it, but there is no s pen do I don't think it can replace my Note 4.
Definitely much more compelling than the s5 though, which made me yawn.
I'll stick with note 4 ofc.
But if they won't give that better touchwiz to note 4. I won't probably buy another Samsung phone again. limiting exynos 5433 to 32 bit another retarded thing too.
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Without microsd, its crap.
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Lets not forget the battery is a smaller 2600mAh unit vs. 2800mAh in the S5, don't even dare give me the CPU is more efficient BS, once you get Facebook, Chrome and Instagram going all that stuff becomes typical marketing talk, and you realise the advantage of a much larger batt.
I'll keep my Note 4 thanks, I just hope the Note 5 doesn't go the same way or I'll be very disappointed.
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Lets not forget the battery is a smaller 2600mAh unit vs. 2800mAh in the S5, don't even dare give me the CPU is more efficient BS, once you get Facebook, Chrome and Instagram going all that stuff becomes typical marketing talk, and you realise the advantage of a much larger batt.
I'll keep my Note 4 thanks, I just hope the Note 5 doesn't go the same way or I'll be very disappointed.
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battery will be probably same with s5.
M glad i left S series at S3. Samsung started distroying it after that. Not worth. The true class in note series.
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Lets not forget the battery is a smaller 2600mAh unit vs. 2800mAh in the S5, don't even dare give me the CPU is more efficient BS, once you get Facebook, Chrome and Instagram going all that stuff becomes typical marketing talk, and you realise the advantage of a much larger batt.
I'll keep my Note 4 thanks, I just hope the Note 5 doesn't go the same way or I'll be very disappointed.
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The battery is actually 2550mAh but it will probably be on pair with the galaxy s5 and the note 4...
Staying with my note 4
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The battery is actually 2550mAh but it will probably be on pair with the galaxy s5 and the note 4...
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s5 and note 4 has different battery life. it can just reach s5. probably 5 hour sot will be most for s6.
Waiting for note 5
You all know if the s6 is this good, the note 5 will be twice as good. I love the note 4 because it was a real upgrade from the note 3. Screen, CPu and Gpu. The s6, yes with 64bit with nothing that will use it, the note 5 will come out when there will be software that will use it.
The note 4 is my baby till it dies. I really do not see the need for another phone that will do nothing better on day to day activities.
More so, I really hope Samsung gives us the new tw unlike what they do normally. Which is they may upgrade Android versions but they rarely upgrade tw on older devices
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You all know if the s6 is this good, the note 5 will be twice as good. I love the note 4 because it was a real upgrade from the note 3. Screen, CPu and Gpu. The s6, yes with 64bit with nothing that will use it, the note 5 will come out when there will be software that will use it.
The note 4 is my baby till it dies. I really do not see the need for another phone that will do nothing better on day to day activities.
More so, I really hope Samsung gives us the new tw unlike what they do normally. Which is they may upgrade Android versions but they rarely upgrade tw on older devices
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It'd be great if they give us 5.0.2 with the new touchwiz but i doubt that will happen...
You never know, maybe that's one of the reasons for the lack of lollipop on the Note 4 so far (optimising TW)...I hope.
Happy the S6 looks good. Samsung has two ticks a year.
I always keep my phones for two years so I'll pass.
Hardware specs
Samsung Exynos 7 octa-core processor
32GB/64GB storage options 4GB of RAM
3,000mAh battery (non-removable)
No microSD expansion slot
Wi-Fi: 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac
No usb-c
My only question is WHY?
Why smaller non-removable battery?
Why no microSD?
Why no usb-c?
Why not just keep my Note 4?
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Hardware specs
Samsung Exynos 7 octa-core processor
32GB/64GB storage options 4GB of RAM
3,000mAh battery (non-removable)
No microSD expansion slot
Wi-Fi: 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac
No usb-c
My only question is WHY?
Why smaller non-removable battery?
Why no microSD?
Why no usb-c?
Why not just keep my Note 4?
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Note5 will get rooted and roms.. even tw roms. Sad times for note4 verizon owners :/
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Note5 will get rooted and roms.. even tw roms. Sad times for note4 verizon owners :/
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That remains to be seen. Why would the Note 5 be easier to root?
tbparkey said:
Hardware specs
Samsung Exynos 7 octa-core processor
32GB/64GB storage options 4GB of RAM
3,000mAh battery (non-removable)
No microSD expansion slot
Wi-Fi: 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac
No usb-c
My only question is WHY?
Why smaller non-removable battery?
Why no microSD?
Why no usb-c?
Why not just keep my Note 4?
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It's not even a true Octa-core processor, it's two quad core....
But yes I won't b upgrading.... Hopefully us Note 4 users get more then temp root or a temp root in 5.1.1 in time
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That remains to be seen. Why would the Note 5 be easier to root?
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It shouldn't b since at blackhat, they announce the exploit used for ping-pong root on the Galaxy S6, so wouldn't suprised me if it's patched on 5.1.1 on the Note 5...
Tho I'm sure they will find another exploit and will have full root, not temp root like the Note 4 (due to the WP on different processors) tho I could b wrong
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I've been on the note band wagon since the note2. But I'm out, Samsung let me down. Nothing compelling for a note 4 user to upgrade. To boot we never got root on the Verizon note 4. So low hopes for root on vz note 5. I think sales will be low on this phone. I'm not paying full price for this phone, I'll upgrade to something else.
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No removable battery
No SD card
No IR sensor ( I turn on my tv, cable box, and room air conditioner with my note4 - its great )
No Android M
IR Blaster is gone too. Man... I use my IR blaster daily for chromecast and TV. WTF Samsung?
This is a turning point for Samsung. I think sales will plunge as there is no compelling reason to buy these phones...SOS.
I've known for a while now that the Note4 DevEd would be my last Samsung. The Note5 looks disappointing to me as well. What makes anybody think the Note5 will get root if the Note4 didn't? I am wondering what the LG G4 Pro Note or whatever it's called is all about. It supposedly has 32-64 gigs internal, 3 gigs ram, sd slot, removable battery, and a pen. I'd love to be able to leave Samsung behind and still have a stylus!
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I think they conceded the rest of this year to Apple and are going to try to regroup for next year.
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yeah, note 5 is garbage. def sticking with my 4. next phone for me will be a nexus i think.
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That remains to be seen. Why would the Note 5 be easier to root?
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samsung cpu's from what I saw get exploited pretty fast (same with s6/s6e)
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samsung cpu's from what I saw get exploited pretty fast (same with s6/s6e)
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If the N5 gets perm root then that would be the only compelling reason to give up my N4. I would still lament the loss of the ir blaster, removable battery and sd card.
Not if they have write protection like the Note 4!
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it better be alot cheaper, if all those features are gone.
iratesubscriber said:
I've been on the note band wagon since the note2. But I'm out, Samsung let me down. Nothing compelling for a note 4 user to upgrade. To boot we never got root on the Verizon note 4. So low hopes for root on vz note 5. I think sales will be low on this phone. I'm not paying full price for this phone, I'll upgrade to something else.
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No removable battery
No SD card
No IR sensor ( I turn on my tv, cable box, and room air conditioner with my note4 - its great )
No Android M
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I'm with you on this. The note 5 is a step backward, not forward. When my 4 reaches it's 'recycle to another family member' point, I'll either find the next logical successor-
...or just go back to a flip phone and carry around a handy tablet. There are always ways to get what we want.
If the note 5 gets root I'm definitely getting it. I still have my note 2. I didn't think the note 3 was enough of an upgrade and since the note 4 didn't get root I didn't want it, not even the developer edition, but if that is an option for the 5 I may go that route.
I don't care about the sd card since there is a 64GB version and possibly even a 128.
I don't care about the removable battery either. I can charge my phone almost any time I want and have no need to see how long it can last on a single charge, and in all of the years I've owned a smartphone I've only needed to replace a battery once.
If the Note 5 came in a 128 gb variant and was rootable I might honestly overlook all the other things they took away. But as of now there is no 128 gb option and it is not rootable to our knowledge, and since the Note 4 has never been rooted (on Verizon) I have very little reason to think that the Verizon Note 5 will be rootable. Because of this I will likely get the upcoming Moto X pure or LG G4 pro/note this fall. My Note 3 is fine for now, although almost 2 years old.
There will be no 128gb option for the Note 5 nor the GS6 plus.
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I don't see why it is set in stone that there will never be a 128gb option, but I also am not overly hopeful that there will. Still don't think it is impossible that Samsung ends up offering a 128gb N5 down the line. Unless there is some kind of hardware issue that truly makes it not possible.
If the LG G4 Pro turns out to be the next Nexus phone I will be on it like a bum on a baloney sandwich!
Ok, we all know that the Note 7 is coming out in a few days but does anyone actually have any desire to upgrade? I've owned my note 4 for over a year and a half and gone through several ROMs and now I've settled with tx's stock LP OK1 ROM. After debloating and applying some minor tweaks my phone is running great. Everything works. The IR blaster is an awesome tool. I use it to to control my TV's, fios boxes, AC's, etc. The FM radio is great and can use it to listen to my radio stations. I love having the removable battery and when my battery starts loosing juice I'll buy a new one. My phone is fast and does just about anything I need it to. My phone is always in a case with a screen protector, so there are no scratches on it and the screen is perfect.
Now that it's just about 2 years old does anyone have any real desire to upgrade, if your phone is working properly? To me it seems like the missing features such as the IR Blaster, FM radio and removable battery in the Note 7 are a deal breaker. I'm sure it will be a handsome and lightening fast phone. Yeah it will beat out my note 4 on every benchmark but is it worth the $700+ upgrade? I just don't see any reason to upgrade.
Please share your thoughts.
deeken said:
Ok, we all know that the Note 7 is coming out in a few days but does anyone actually have any desire to upgrade? I've owned my note 4 for over a year and a half and gone through several ROMs and now I've settled with tx's stock LP OK1 ROM. After debloating and applying some minor tweaks my phone is running great. Everything works. The IR blaster is an awesome tool. I use it to to control my TV's, fios boxes, AC's, etc. The FM radio is great and can use it to listen to my radio stations. I love having the removable battery and when my battery starts loosing juice I'll buy a new one. My phone is fast and does just about anything I need it to. My phone is always in a case with a screen protector, so there are no scratches on it and the screen is perfect.
Now that it's just about 2 years old does anyone have any real desire to upgrade, if your phone is working properly? To me it seems like the missing features such as the IR Blaster, FM radio and removable battery in the Note 7 are a deal breaker. I'm sure it will be a handsome and lightening fast phone. Yeah it will beat out my note 4 on every benchmark but is it worth the $700+ upgrade? I just don't see any reason to upgrade.
Please share your thoughts.
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Not worth the upgrade in my opinion. Galaxy note 4 + 10000mAH battery is life
I got an AT&T Note 4, but due to locked bootloader, I sold it without even using it. Upgraded to LG G4, sold it due to bugs. Nexus 6P is nice, but I always found myself missing my Note 3 and the S-Pen, backup batteries, and SD cards.
So I sold the Nexus 6P and now I bought myself a Note 4 with unlocked bootloader and I'm all set for the long term with my Note 4. When I researched Note 5 and 7, I totally lost interest at the non-removable battery part. They should have renamed the Note series to Samsung Galaxy GNote 5 and GNote 7 (Gimped Note).
Is the Note 4 the last great phone? For me, yes.
Hard to justify going to a Note 7. It's just not that impressive. Only thing I wish would be better on the note 4 is the camera. The S7 camera is pretty impressive and fast.
I can let most things slide, or grow to love other features, it's just hard without the IR blaster... Not sure why Samsung thought it was a great idea to remove it from their phones. I mean it's not like they make home theater equipment.... So, yeah, it sucks as we evolve in some places we simultaneously devolve in others.
Looks like I'm not alone in my thoughts. Hopefully more of us are sticking with our Note 4's. I just hope the ROM community for it stays strong. From what I've heard its gonna be locked bootloaders from now on.
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Looks like I'm not alone in my thoughts. Hopefully more of us are sticking with our Note 4's. I just hope the ROM community for it stays strong. From what I've heard its gonna be locked bootloaders from now on.
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The Note 7 does sound very appealing, it has specs you can't ignore, it's defiantly better than the Note 5(which was a step backwards in my eyes, not even an sd card).
But i would never spend 700 on it to upgrade from a note 4. Maybe if I had a crappy phone, I would. Especially if they keep locked bootloader. These companies need to quit with this locked bootloader s#*t.
The note 4 is one of the best phones ever. It can still stand up to most new phones out there. Unlocked, replacable battery, sd card, ir port. Lots of development for it, need i say more.
With that being said, I'll be keeping my note 4 for a long while.
aaron74 said:
The Note 7 does sound very appealing, it has specs you can't ignore, it's defiantly better than the Note 5(which was a step backwards in my eyes, not even an sd card).
But i would never spend 700 on it to upgrade from a note 4. Maybe if I had a crappy phone, I would. Especially if they keep locked bootloader. These companies need to quit with this locked bootloader s#*t.
The note 4 is one of the best phones ever. It can still stand up to most new phones out there. Unlocked, replacable battery, sd card, ir port. Lots of development for it, need i say more.
With that being said, I'll be keeping my note 4 for a long while.
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Yup I agree. Once I heard the specs about the note 5 I completely lost interest. The note 7 does have some nice specs and the added SD Card support is great but still, too many essentials are missing. And most importantly the locked bootloader. No chance I'm going to buy a phone that is locked down. Hopefully nothing happens to my note 4 for the next few years.
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The FM radio is great and can use it to listen to my radio stations.
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Wait, what? How are you doing this?
AWildColin said:
Wait, what? How are you doing this?
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The NextRadio app lets you do this. Sprint has unlocked the FM Radio in their phones for quite some time now.
I got my Note 4 last July. By that time, it had already been out for a while, but I had an early upgrade opportunity and made the jump from the Galaxy S5 I had gotten just 11 months earlier.
At the time, I was looking at either the Nexus 6 or the Note 4. Ultimately, the Note 4 won because of a removable battery and the option to add a micro SD card for extra storage. The phone still works great, and while I'm still about a year out from my upgrade point, I'm hoping there will be better options by that time.
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Not worth the upgrade in my opinion. Galaxy note 4 + 10000mAH battery is life
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agreed
[/COLOR]Locked bootloader? No thank you.
Only way to fully protect yourself from malvertising 0 day exploits is full phone adblock and AdAway needs root.
My Note 4 has been great, with Anker battery and wireless chargers everywhere never running out of juice.
The Note 7 is pretty disappointing to say the least. Really not much different than an S7 Edge. Sammy really dropped the ball on that one.
Keeping mine too. I'm done with Samsung. Time to move on to someone else
The main appeal to me is the water resistance but not knowing if the battery will die fairly rapidly like the note 4 battery pretty much counters that with it being not removable. Ill probably wait and see if the next nexus iteration has water resistance.
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The Note 7 is pretty disappointing to say the least. Really not much different than an S7 Edge. Sammy really dropped the ball on that one.
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Note 7 was meant to be disappointing. You gotta remember, the note series is intended for business users who have a need for a stylus. It was never going to have 6GB of RAM or the newest snapdragon. If we all expected that then we don't know why the S7 exists. It is the flagship phone from Samsung, not the Note. The people on XDA who root their notes pales in comparison to the actual number of note users who do not. Samsung is like any other company. IPhone has 1 flagship. That's what samsung wants
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The note 7 is still an awesome phone. Better specs than the note 4. I still don't mind using the note 4 and will continue to do so. I wanted to upgrade to the newest note but if the bootloader is locked and no possibility of root it's a no go for me.
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the Note 5 disappointed me but the Note 7 has everything i want except for an IR blaster.
If you don't think the Note 7 is an upgrade, you must not have played with it in real life. The phone is gorgeous especially the screen. The only thing I will miss is the IR blaster but oh well. Now to find where to sell my Note 4 for the highest price....
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