Note 5 Disappointment - Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General

Hardware specs
Samsung Exynos 7 octa-core processor
32GB/64GB storage options 4GB of RAM
3,000mAh battery (non-removable)
No microSD expansion slot
Wi-Fi: 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac
No usb-c
My only question is WHY?
Why smaller non-removable battery?
Why no microSD?
Why no usb-c?
Why not just keep my Note 4?

tbparkey said:
Hardware specs
Samsung Exynos 7 octa-core processor
32GB/64GB storage options 4GB of RAM
3,000mAh battery (non-removable)
No microSD expansion slot
Wi-Fi: 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac
No usb-c
My only question is WHY?
Why smaller non-removable battery?
Why no microSD?
Why no usb-c?
Why not just keep my Note 4?
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Note5 will get rooted and roms.. even tw roms. Sad times for note4 verizon owners :/
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patt2k said:
Note5 will get rooted and roms.. even tw roms. Sad times for note4 verizon owners :/
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That remains to be seen. Why would the Note 5 be easier to root?

tbparkey said:
Hardware specs
Samsung Exynos 7 octa-core processor
32GB/64GB storage options 4GB of RAM
3,000mAh battery (non-removable)
No microSD expansion slot
Wi-Fi: 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac
No usb-c
My only question is WHY?
Why smaller non-removable battery?
Why no microSD?
Why no usb-c?
Why not just keep my Note 4?
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It's not even a true Octa-core processor, it's two quad core....
But yes I won't b upgrading.... Hopefully us Note 4 users get more then temp root or a temp root in 5.1.1 in time
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tbparkey said:
That remains to be seen. Why would the Note 5 be easier to root?
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It shouldn't b since at blackhat, they announce the exploit used for ping-pong root on the Galaxy S6, so wouldn't suprised me if it's patched on 5.1.1 on the Note 5...
Tho I'm sure they will find another exploit and will have full root, not temp root like the Note 4 (due to the WP on different processors) tho I could b wrong
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I've been on the note band wagon since the note2. But I'm out, Samsung let me down. Nothing compelling for a note 4 user to upgrade. To boot we never got root on the Verizon note 4. So low hopes for root on vz note 5. I think sales will be low on this phone. I'm not paying full price for this phone, I'll upgrade to something else.
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No removable battery
No SD card
No IR sensor ( I turn on my tv, cable box, and room air conditioner with my note4 - its great )
No Android M

IR Blaster is gone too. Man... I use my IR blaster daily for chromecast and TV. WTF Samsung?

This is a turning point for Samsung. I think sales will plunge as there is no compelling reason to buy these phones...SOS.

I've known for a while now that the Note4 DevEd would be my last Samsung. The Note5 looks disappointing to me as well. What makes anybody think the Note5 will get root if the Note4 didn't? I am wondering what the LG G4 Pro Note or whatever it's called is all about. It supposedly has 32-64 gigs internal, 3 gigs ram, sd slot, removable battery, and a pen. I'd love to be able to leave Samsung behind and still have a stylus!
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I think they conceded the rest of this year to Apple and are going to try to regroup for next year.
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yeah, note 5 is garbage. def sticking with my 4. next phone for me will be a nexus i think.

tbparkey said:
That remains to be seen. Why would the Note 5 be easier to root?
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samsung cpu's from what I saw get exploited pretty fast (same with s6/s6e)

patt2k said:
samsung cpu's from what I saw get exploited pretty fast (same with s6/s6e)
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If the N5 gets perm root then that would be the only compelling reason to give up my N4. I would still lament the loss of the ir blaster, removable battery and sd card.

Not if they have write protection like the Note 4!
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it better be alot cheaper, if all those features are gone.

iratesubscriber said:
I've been on the note band wagon since the note2. But I'm out, Samsung let me down. Nothing compelling for a note 4 user to upgrade. To boot we never got root on the Verizon note 4. So low hopes for root on vz note 5. I think sales will be low on this phone. I'm not paying full price for this phone, I'll upgrade to something else.
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No removable battery
No SD card
No IR sensor ( I turn on my tv, cable box, and room air conditioner with my note4 - its great )
No Android M
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I'm with you on this. The note 5 is a step backward, not forward. When my 4 reaches it's 'recycle to another family member' point, I'll either find the next logical successor-
...or just go back to a flip phone and carry around a handy tablet. There are always ways to get what we want.

If the note 5 gets root I'm definitely getting it. I still have my note 2. I didn't think the note 3 was enough of an upgrade and since the note 4 didn't get root I didn't want it, not even the developer edition, but if that is an option for the 5 I may go that route.
I don't care about the sd card since there is a 64GB version and possibly even a 128.
I don't care about the removable battery either. I can charge my phone almost any time I want and have no need to see how long it can last on a single charge, and in all of the years I've owned a smartphone I've only needed to replace a battery once.

If the Note 5 came in a 128 gb variant and was rootable I might honestly overlook all the other things they took away. But as of now there is no 128 gb option and it is not rootable to our knowledge, and since the Note 4 has never been rooted (on Verizon) I have very little reason to think that the Verizon Note 5 will be rootable. Because of this I will likely get the upcoming Moto X pure or LG G4 pro/note this fall. My Note 3 is fine for now, although almost 2 years old.

There will be no 128gb option for the Note 5 nor the GS6 plus.
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I don't see why it is set in stone that there will never be a 128gb option, but I also am not overly hopeful that there will. Still don't think it is impossible that Samsung ends up offering a 128gb N5 down the line. Unless there is some kind of hardware issue that truly makes it not possible.

If the LG G4 Pro turns out to be the next Nexus phone I will be on it like a bum on a baloney sandwich!

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I guess i won't be getting NOTE 5..

"SamMobi/e states that both the Galaxy Note
5 and the Galaxy 56 edge Plus will feature
glass backs, much like the Galaxy 56 and the
56 edge. The Note 5 is expected to feature
the Exynos 7422 Soc, an update to the
Exynos 7420 with an integrated Shannon LTE
modem manufactured by Samsung. The
Exynos 7422 will be Samsung's first all-in-one
Soc, incorporating the CPU, GPU, RAM,
storage(UFS 2.0) and the LTE modem in a
single package. Considering that the UFS 2.0
standard uses its own memory controller,
Samsung may not provide a microsD card
slot on the Note 5 or the 56 edge Plus as that
would involve figuring out a way to integrate
two memory controllers."
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I was holding out fir a Note 5 but when the rumirs started about no storage or removable battery i picked up a Note 4
Agreed. I was all set on getting a Note 5 or waiting for a Note 6. Now i'll just have to wait for something comparable with an SD slot once i get tired of the Note 4. I really wish Samsung wasn't doing this. If i wanted an iPhone i would have simply bought an iPhone.
JD
JudasD said:
Agreed. I was all set on getting a Note 5 or waiting for a Note 6. Now i'll just have to wait for something comparable with an SD slot once i get tired of the Note 4. I really wish Samsung wasn't doing this. If i wanted an iPhone i would have simply bought an iPhone.
JD
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So true...
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Agreed. It's off my list if there is no external memory and removable battery. I know quite a few people that jumped to iPhone instead of the S6 for the same reason. Shame. What once made the Galaxy stand apart is now no longer a selling point.
I'm surely buying one. But not going to be my favorite. I keep other phones for flash fun. Like s4. Nexus. Etc. I have no problems with buying with no battery removable or sd if it was all I had then yeah.
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Been on a China elephone kick. China is putting out killer devices for around 180
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All of my phones have been Samsung for the last 5 years. It's probably healthier to see what else is out there anyway. It's possible there might be a silver lining to this.
JD
Well i learned my lesson the hard way and will stay with samsung. I tried everything from the lg g3 and to the nexus 6 to the m8 to the g flex 2 . If you need everything to work right samsung delivers .g3 was a good phone too The other phones had deal breakers i couldn't settle with. I tried to avoid the note 4 thinking it was gonna be like the note 3 i had . Not even close. Only way i don't get a note 5 phone is Unless Huawei or sony release a flagship phone for sprint . Those the only 2 brands i haven't tried yet that's worth trying.
I have no problem with the lack of microSD slot or removable battery IF the battery can be replaced at a shop (or do it yourself). Batteries don't last forever. I had a battery in my S3 fail and start expanding just a few weeks ago.
Sprint usually requests a sd slot in its build orders, but those days may be over.....If this rumor does come true and the N5 lacks a sd slot and no removable battery I too will look to another brand, just wish Sony and Sprint could come to some deal.......
I definitely won't get it if it doesn't have an sd card. I'm perfectly content with the Note 4 for now. We'll see what other manufacturers come out with. No Sd, no money from me.
Waiting impatiently for my note 5. http://www.sammobile.com/2015/07/10/we-never-said-the-galaxy-note-5-wont-have-a-microsd-slot/
I just got the Note 4 about 2 months ago and truly love it, especially the camera. Note 5? Blah.
I like new phone's. Don't look back. No buyers remorse at all lol.
No removable sd isn't that big a deal to me. For saving backups and rom zips, USB otg works just fine. Get a model with a lot of storage. My nexus 7(2013) is a rom flashing beast and doesn't have either of these (removable sd/or battery).
I'd love to get a note 5, if it had removable storage, but I think I may hold off for Project Ara to release. Then no one can tell me what my phone has to have.
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I think battery pull and sd card is essential, especially when you get those boot freezes..gotta pull that **** lol
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Edit. I decided that my rant was premature. Though, some of it was completely valid. But on a different note. No pun intended.
Note 5 doomsday prepped lol
http://www.slashgear.com/galaxy-note-5-specs-leak-anew-4gb-ram-5-mp-ois-front-cam-13392801/
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Top 5 MAJOR Flaws Of The Galaxy Note 5!

I have to say that I was pretty hyped about this device while watching the unpacked event. Then again I am always stoked when new devices are announced and released I am just a tech nerd I guess. I am not hating on this device. In fact I have already pre-ordered mine, and at full price so I can keep my Verizon unlimited data however there are several flaws present in this device. These flaws are especially true if you are upgrading from a device like the Galaxy S5 or Note 4.
What do you guys think? Are these flaws enough to keep you away from the Note 5? I mean it still has plenty going for it. Revamped premium design, great screen, great camera, SPEN, Samsung Pay, wireless fast charging and the list goes on and on.
Coming from an LG G2, it's a clear upgrade across the board. I dont even fill up my current 32GB so the 64GB note 5 I have preordered should be more than enough space.
Im upgrading from my 64 GB S6 Edge to the Note 5 just because I like to be on the cutting edge as for CPU and SOC and Camera.
I find it very very very funny that allot of my co workers and friends are UPGRADING to the Note 4 or Note 4 Edge even though the Note 5 is coming out in a couple days lol.
Even though I like Note 5 for the Camera and CPU and GPU and the Glass on Glass construction, I have to admit, Samsung Failed.......
It is a great video and those are not a deterrence to me coming from a S4. Hopefully I will get to see his next video on why to get the Note 5. At this point I might consider the Note 4 just to save money. Either one is a big upgrade for me.
Why is everyone complaining. The note 5 is not an upgrade. They literally took the note 4 and rewrapped it.
Slie said:
Why is everyone complaining. The note 5 is not an upgrade. They literally took the note 4 and rewrapped it.
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Honestly. People say that a lot..but it's wrong. It has most of the Note features that were on the 3 and 4, but the software is completely different. It's more like the s6.
Hardware is completely different too. It has the s6 hardware with more ram. I'm not sure why people think it's just a note 4 in a new body. It's far from that.
Not saying there isn't a level of disappointment. .there definitely is, only for different reasons. If I was coming from the Note 4 straight to the 5 without a 4 month pit stop on the s6, I'd be stoked. Problem is, I have the s6 and this is basically that with the spen features added. The Note line used to be a bigger upgrade over the previous S version. This year it's not.
Let me get this straight. Rootjunky does a 4 minute video of what he believes are flaws for the Note 5 and then pre-orders one anyway?
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rsohne said:
Let me get this straight. Rootjunky does a 4 minute video of what he believes are flaws for the Note 5 and then pre-orders one anyway?
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Well, the guy has to get his hands on the phone to do a review right?
rsohne said:
Let me get this straight. Rootjunky does a 4 minute video of what he believes are flaws for the Note 5 and then pre-orders one anyway?
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That's what you call a classic sheep! It's quite pathetic really.
Maybe the trend has changed and the Galaxy S series is the phone to get the newest changes first. Seems to me with the S6 Samsung threw it against the wall and it stuck. It sold lots of phones and maybe for the more mainstream users the Note 5 will sell a ton. I think Samsung Note line was getting stale and needed an update. Heck if Samsung wasn't trying all this weird stuff with devices who knows where the smartphone market would be.
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Dr. Evo said:
That's what you call a classic sheep! It's quite pathetic really.
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I am hardly a sheep. Vote with your wallet and Samsung will get the message. The way I see it the new S6 design sold well so they figured they could capitalize on it with the Note 5. If they don't sell many the Note 6 may be different. If you don't like it buy another device this round. Seems that SD card slots and spare batteries are gonna be a thing of the past whether we like it or not.
By the way no disrespect to Rootjunky. He is great for the community but at this point everything is speculation.
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As far as we know, the S6 doesn't meet the expectations of Samsung in terms of sales.
I think, the Note 5 we are seeing is simply the result of decisions take a moment ago , regardless of the sales of S6.
I don't think there was anyway Samsung was going to keep increasing market share in the Android world. Probably why they have toyed around with Tizen. The flood of cheap phones from so many manufacturers was bound to happen with an open ecosystem. I think they figured that out a long time ago. They want to be the premium android manufacturer and not play in the low price war. They were probably smart and would have lost more market share if they had kept producing plastic, me too kind of devices. That's also the same reason they've always pushed all their special features (or bloat) Try to get you locked into something like Apple does. It just doesn't work unless the operating system is locked down and you control it.
rsohne said:
Let me get this straight. Rootjunky does a 4 minute video of what he believes are flaws for the Note 5 and then pre-orders one anyway?
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DroidModderX did the video LOL and yes I did pre-order the device and it arrives Tuesday. I think this device will be great, but i believe it is my job to weigh the pros and the cons of these devices.
I only have 3 major flaws but they are all deal breakers:
-no IR
-no 128GB
-Not available in the Netherlands
Other disappointments:
-small and non removable battery
-fragile build materials
-same processor as s6
-same camera as s6
The 2 main flaws I can think of, are the lack of mircoSD card and the IR blaster.
Hamidd said:
The 2 main flaws I can think of, are the lack of mircoSD card and the IR blaster.
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well the MicroSD is just the trade off for going with UFS 2.0. The memory controller doesn't natively support SDcards, so in order to have an SD card slot the phone would have to use eMMC 5.0/5.1 memory controller (which also supports SDcards), or add in a 2nd memory controller just to control the microSD slot. Which is a lot of PCB and headache just for a microSD slot, and i'm not sure if the Exynos 7420 would even allow you to use 2 different memory controllers at once, so i'm not even sure if you COULD just throw in another memory controller, even if you found space for it.
Basically, UFS 2.0 as the memory controller currently stands just doesn't support microSD, the next iteration of the UFS controller could potentially add microsd support, but I wouldnt count on it either.
As for the IR blaster, likely a space issue, but only samsung would know on that one.
hypersonicx said:
Im upgrading from my 64 GB S6 Edge to the Note 5 just because I like to be on the cutting edge as for CPU and SOC and Camera.
I find it very very very funny that allot of my co workers and friends are UPGRADING to the Note 4 or Note 4 Edge even though the Note 5 is coming out in a couple days lol.
Even though I like Note 5 for the Camera and CPU and GPU and the Glass on Glass construction, I have to admit, Samsung Failed.......
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You do know that the S6 edge has the exact same cpu and camera, right? The only thing thats upgraded is the memory. You were already on cutting edge.
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Let me get this straight. Rootjunky does a 4 minute video of what he believes are flaws for the Note 5 and then pre-orders one anyway?
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So what?
anyone can buy an a mediocre product. The thing is, it will disappoint and will no longer make you happy every day like the its predecessors did. Especially if it is grossly overpriced.
yes, for the majority of us, it would be insane to buy galaxy note 5, especially for its price.
but some people could, it's their choice.
i, personally, will vote with my wallet, and will advice AGAINST buying samsung products in my community.
Thanks for the correction. I don't know why I confuse those guys.
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Now that Galaxy Note 5 is released, simple question: WILL YOU BUY ONE?

Now that Galaxy Note 5 is released, simple question: WILL YOU BUY ONE?
Yes, I bought one out right, 64gb, black.
Edit: Will you buy one? If not, why?
Depending on the phone you're coming from but yeah I'm coming from the g4 and it's head over heels better than that device
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soukie said:
Yes, I bought one out right, 64gb, black.
Edit: Will you buy one? If not, why?
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No, I'm sticking with the Note 4 or moving to LG or Sony. I travel a lot, so upgradable storage and removable battery are must haves for me.
I don't want to rely on cloud storage or power outlets or BULKY external chargers.
I got one. And I love I it, so far.
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Neo3D said:
No, I'm sticking with the Note 4 or moving to LG or Sony. I travel a lot, so upgradable storage and removable battery are must haves for me.
I don't want to rely on cloud storage or power outlets or BULKY external chargers.
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I see. You should keep your Note 4 and hold up for the note 6 maybe they will add the micro SD and removable battery back (I'm hoping). The Note 4 still a great phone and I personally think nothing worth the upgrade over the Note 4 out there at the moment.
I got the Note5 because I loved the s-pen. I never use micro SD or change the battery.
Got it yesterday morning. So far, love it.
Don't buy one until I get mine first.
Got mine on Monday, been enjoying it all week. 64Gb black. Coming from an LG G2, fantastic upgrade.
Neo3D said:
Now that Galaxy Note 5 is released, simple question: WILL YOU BUY ONE?
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Will you mary me, every time I see you post something, I fall in love all over again
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nope..waiting for moto x pure
Kaboose666 said:
Got mine on Monday, been enjoying it all week. 64Gb black. Coming from an LG G2, fantastic upgrade.
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Note 4 would be an upgrade from that too and cheaper.
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Note 4 would be an upgrade from that too and cheaper.
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Yup it would, but since this was almost free for me I really dont care what it would have cost me off contract.
Moved to AT&T next which saved me $25/month on my bill. The phone costs $28/month. Total cost to me $3 more per month.
Besides the G2 didnt have a removable battery, and didn't have mSD card support, so what exactly would the Note4 offer me that the note 5 doesnt, besides a slower SoC, less RAM, worse display (though its still a good one), worse s-pen, and cheaper feel.
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Yup it would, but since this was almost free for me I really dont care what it would have cost me off contract.
Moved to AT&T next which saved me $25/month on my bill. The phone costs $28/month. Total cost to me $3 more per month.
Besides the G2 didnt have a removable battery, and didn't have mSD card support, so what exactly would the Note4 offer me that the note 5 doesnt, besides a slower SoC, less RAM, worse display (though its still a good one), worse s-pen, and cheaper feel.
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More storage and removable battery. Essential for power users, so maybe you're just not a power user.
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More storage and removable battery. Essential for power users, so maybe you're just not a power user.
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Lol I love this argument, i'm not a power user because I use cloud storage and sit at a desk therefore a removable battery means nothing to me.
I have USB OTG if I want removable storage so bad, but I have 1TB of cloud storage so generally I find that pointless, I have 30GB free on my 64GB note5 after installing my apps. I will be fine with the remaining storage considering I am used to 32GB internal from the G2.
You calling me not a power user because you can't fathom how someone else uses a phone without an mSD card or a removable battery is just stupid, those things have no correlation with being a power user. I keep my phone plugged into my computer for literally 80% or more of my day, what would a removable battery do for me? Nothing. mSD storage would allow me to keep 100GB of music with me at all times, sweet too bad I use spotify, or I could keep all those Linux distros on the mSD card, everyone knows power users use Linux for their primary OS so we always keep a distro or two on the phone just in case.
Give me a break, if you think someone not needing an mSD card slot and a removable battery means they aren't a power user then you don't know what a power user does. Those two things have absolutely no impact on what I use my phone for besides maybe not being a mobile data vault, which is a moot point when I have 1TB cloud storage and 75Mbps wifi.
Another dumb ass thread. If you don't want/like the phone don't get it. Nobody wants to keep logging in and seeing this crap. We are looking fwd to root and roms not people complaining about a phone. You don't Iike it don't buy it. Samsung will not lose sleep over you not getting this year's model. Stick to your Note from last year or whatever else you have and let us enjoy our devices. I go through a lot of devices.... Some with swappable battery and expandable storage... Some without. All manage to get me through a day or two and handle all task I do on a day to day basis. The Note 5 is a hell of a device. Awesome build quality, loud speaker, beautiful screen, beautiful camera, very responsive and very good battery life. Once we get root and custom roms more potential will be unlocked.
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Kaboose666 said:
Really? Note 5 has the best SoC on the market, fastest RAM (LPDDR4) and more RAM (4GB), best display (18-23% brighter than note 4 while using 20% less power), and fastest internal memory (UFS 2.0).
I got the phone for basically free, but hey I guess i'm just "stupid" for getting the current best phone on the market while only spending $50 out of pocket.
I feel really dumb now.
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Even with all that RAM Note 5 doesn't store apps in memory.
I bought it and still have my note 4.. Couple of downsides to it but it still outperforms the note 4 on every level.. .
I have a otg dongle for extra memory now that literally takes secs to use. And with Samsung's read write speeds it's more than adequately gets the job done..
But nonetheless I still will keep the 4 in case this thing goes belly up for some reason.
Kaboose666 said:
Seriously, I came into the thread since I already bought one. I posted a comment about buying it, the OP has done nothing but make rude comments and attack me since.
What the hell is the point of this thread if you're just going to call everyone who gets a note5 an idiot for not getting a note4?
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I got to be honest I'm running note 3 and ported s6 rom it's a fantastic rom but obviously being 64 bit running on note 3 it has limitations I'm in London and for some reason we don't get n5 till Jan I don't understand logic behind the wait as we are usually before the us on updates iv a choice between s6 edge + note 4 edge or wait for n5 so was hoping for some for and against but seems like the op should rename thread to all who hate note 5 (and love note 4 )
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I got to be honest I'm running note 3 and ported s6 rom it's a fantastic rom but obviously being 64 bit running on note 3 it has limitations I'm in London and for some reason we don't get n5 till Jan I don't understand logic behind the wait as we are usually before the us on updates iv a choice between s6 edge + note 4 edge or wait for n5 so was hoping for some for and against but seems like the op should rename thread to all who hate note 5 (and love note 4 )
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Don't get me wrong I love my note 5 and I'm going to keep it the only thing I don't like about it is not having an IR blaster and that's just because I travel for work and I use it often I cannot wait to get this thing rooted and see what ROMs come out for it

Next Phone=No Compromise

I am keeping my Note 4 until there is a no compromise "Next Big Thing" Here is my must haves to leave my beloved Note 4.....
1. Root
2. 5.7" display minimum >400dpi
3. Removable battery >3000
4. SD slot
5. IR blaster
6. 3 gig RAM minimum
7. OIS + Excellent in low light
8. USB C
9. Good speaker(Not on back)
10. Wireless and fast charging
11. Quad Core Processor
Will the upcoming LG 4G Pro be the one or the next Nexus? If not I'll be waiting with my N4 in hand. No more non-rootable phablets for me.
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This is my checklist too. The only thing I would add is multi tasking capabilites, like multi window and floating windows. A stylus would be nice too (for taking notes at work), but not required.
Sadly, I think I'll be holding on to my Note 4 for a long time, unless Samsung gets their act together on the Note 6.
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Id also like to keep the IR blaster too
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tbparkey said:
I am keeping my Note 4 until there is a no compromise "Next Big Thing" Here is my must haves to leave my beloved Note 4.....
1. Root
2. 5.7" display minimum >400dpi
3. Removable battery >3000
4. SD slot
5. IR blaster
6. 3 gig RAM minimum
7. OIS + Excellent in low light
8. USB C
9. Good speaker(Not on back)
10. Wireless and fast charging
11. Quad Core Processor
Will the upcoming LG 4G Pro be the one or the next Nexus? If not I'll be waiting with my N4 in hand. No more non-rootable phablets for me.
Did I miss something?
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But Samsung already moved to 4GB of ram. And don't forget it's LPD, DDR4 ram while some use DDR3 still.
Plus a big one for me is not just display size and ppi, but Amoled. Especially the ones in the Galaxy that draw much less power while having higher brightness and calibration options to boot.
And their Octa Core is the best out currently. But a good quad can get it done.
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That new Asus Preditor 6 with 6 inch 1080p display, 4 speakers, and Helio X20 chip, and a super awesome design all built around gaming looks pretty sweet. Just wish it was Amoled.
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I expect I'll be compromising a bit and get the Hwawei Nexus 6. I'm sick of a rootless (permanent) phone and won't wait for everything on that list. I do not expect you will find a phone with everything. I hope someone makes one, though!
Wishing the Moto X Pure was AMOLED and had OIS.
The new Sony Z5 Premium sounds delectable. Unfortunately, if it makes it's way to Verizon, it will never see an update and probably be customized and ruined.
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Wishing the Moto X Pure was AMOLED and had OIS.
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agreed. I tried the note 5 and sold it. hoping moto x takes the crown. still cant beat my note 4 developer edition!
I think all that is a good checklist, but i would add dual front facing speakers, or at LEAST make the single speaker front facing. I mean whos bright idea was it to let everyone else hear your shiz?
Thinking the closest thing to that maybe the Moto Force/bounce/ ?
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I am keeping my Note 4 until there is a no compromise "Next Big Thing" Here is my must haves to leave my beloved Note 4.....
1. Root
2. 5.7" display minimum >400dpi
3. Removable battery >3000
4. SD slot
5. IR blaster
6. 3 gig RAM minimum
7. OIS + Excellent in low light
8. USB C
9. Good speaker(Not on back)
10. Wireless and fast charging
11. Quad Core Processor
Will the upcoming LG 4G Pro be the one or the next Nexus? If not I'll be waiting with my N4 in hand. No more non-rootable phablets for me.
Did I miss something?
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I really the Xperia Z5 Premium was coming to Verizon. Seems to hit most of those blocks. No removable battery, but the security has been lacking in the past, so hopefully it will see root soon.
So really what's the next move? I have a note 4 DE. What's out there on Verizon that's a rootable unlocked bootloader upgrade for me?
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So really what's the next move? I have a note 4 DE. What's out there on Verizon that's a rootable unlocked bootloader upgrade for me?
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Nexus 6p? Fingers crossed. Might be the one. Drops in a few days.
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Nexus 6p? Fingers crossed. Might be the one. Drops in a few days.
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possibly if the nexus isnt great i am just getting a note 5 again. it is really a beast
New nexus devices look promising based on the current Google announcement. Hoping the camera is actually comparable to the Note 4 in real world conditions. That's a big deal breaker for me..
Nexus 6p falls short on IR, removable battery, and Ext SD. Fingers crossed for LG G4 Pro.
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New nexus devices look promising based on the current Google announcement. Hoping the camera is actually comparable to the Note 4 in real world conditions. That's a big deal breaker for me..
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No OIS is a big miss for the camera quality. I am really disappointed in the Nexus 6p. No reason to give up N4 yet.
Looks like the LG V10 hits most of my list. No IR blaster or USB C. These might be wants more than needs. If they get root on the Verizon Retail I'm in. Anyone else?
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Looks like the LG V10 hits most of my list. No IR blaster or USB C. These might be wants more than needs. If they get root on the Verizon Retail I'm in. Anyone else?
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I read a few sites that list the IR blaster as a feature of the device. One such below.
Look pretty promising:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/10/01/hands-on-with-the-lg-v10/
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I read a few sites that list the IR blaster as a feature of the device. One such below.
Look pretty promising:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/10/01/hands-on-with-the-lg-v10/
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Will this device ever see root on Verizon?

Is the Note 4 the last great phone?

Ok, we all know that the Note 7 is coming out in a few days but does anyone actually have any desire to upgrade? I've owned my note 4 for over a year and a half and gone through several ROMs and now I've settled with tx's stock LP OK1 ROM. After debloating and applying some minor tweaks my phone is running great. Everything works. The IR blaster is an awesome tool. I use it to to control my TV's, fios boxes, AC's, etc. The FM radio is great and can use it to listen to my radio stations. I love having the removable battery and when my battery starts loosing juice I'll buy a new one. My phone is fast and does just about anything I need it to. My phone is always in a case with a screen protector, so there are no scratches on it and the screen is perfect.
Now that it's just about 2 years old does anyone have any real desire to upgrade, if your phone is working properly? To me it seems like the missing features such as the IR Blaster, FM radio and removable battery in the Note 7 are a deal breaker. I'm sure it will be a handsome and lightening fast phone. Yeah it will beat out my note 4 on every benchmark but is it worth the $700+ upgrade? I just don't see any reason to upgrade.
Please share your thoughts.
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Ok, we all know that the Note 7 is coming out in a few days but does anyone actually have any desire to upgrade? I've owned my note 4 for over a year and a half and gone through several ROMs and now I've settled with tx's stock LP OK1 ROM. After debloating and applying some minor tweaks my phone is running great. Everything works. The IR blaster is an awesome tool. I use it to to control my TV's, fios boxes, AC's, etc. The FM radio is great and can use it to listen to my radio stations. I love having the removable battery and when my battery starts loosing juice I'll buy a new one. My phone is fast and does just about anything I need it to. My phone is always in a case with a screen protector, so there are no scratches on it and the screen is perfect.
Now that it's just about 2 years old does anyone have any real desire to upgrade, if your phone is working properly? To me it seems like the missing features such as the IR Blaster, FM radio and removable battery in the Note 7 are a deal breaker. I'm sure it will be a handsome and lightening fast phone. Yeah it will beat out my note 4 on every benchmark but is it worth the $700+ upgrade? I just don't see any reason to upgrade.
Please share your thoughts.
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Not worth the upgrade in my opinion. Galaxy note 4 + 10000mAH battery is life
I got an AT&T Note 4, but due to locked bootloader, I sold it without even using it. Upgraded to LG G4, sold it due to bugs. Nexus 6P is nice, but I always found myself missing my Note 3 and the S-Pen, backup batteries, and SD cards.
So I sold the Nexus 6P and now I bought myself a Note 4 with unlocked bootloader and I'm all set for the long term with my Note 4. When I researched Note 5 and 7, I totally lost interest at the non-removable battery part. They should have renamed the Note series to Samsung Galaxy GNote 5 and GNote 7 (Gimped Note).
Is the Note 4 the last great phone? For me, yes.
Hard to justify going to a Note 7. It's just not that impressive. Only thing I wish would be better on the note 4 is the camera. The S7 camera is pretty impressive and fast.
I can let most things slide, or grow to love other features, it's just hard without the IR blaster... Not sure why Samsung thought it was a great idea to remove it from their phones. I mean it's not like they make home theater equipment.... So, yeah, it sucks as we evolve in some places we simultaneously devolve in others.
Looks like I'm not alone in my thoughts. Hopefully more of us are sticking with our Note 4's. I just hope the ROM community for it stays strong. From what I've heard its gonna be locked bootloaders from now on.
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Looks like I'm not alone in my thoughts. Hopefully more of us are sticking with our Note 4's. I just hope the ROM community for it stays strong. From what I've heard its gonna be locked bootloaders from now on.
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The Note 7 does sound very appealing, it has specs you can't ignore, it's defiantly better than the Note 5(which was a step backwards in my eyes, not even an sd card).
But i would never spend 700 on it to upgrade from a note 4. Maybe if I had a crappy phone, I would. Especially if they keep locked bootloader. These companies need to quit with this locked bootloader s#*t.
The note 4 is one of the best phones ever. It can still stand up to most new phones out there. Unlocked, replacable battery, sd card, ir port. Lots of development for it, need i say more.
With that being said, I'll be keeping my note 4 for a long while.
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The Note 7 does sound very appealing, it has specs you can't ignore, it's defiantly better than the Note 5(which was a step backwards in my eyes, not even an sd card).
But i would never spend 700 on it to upgrade from a note 4. Maybe if I had a crappy phone, I would. Especially if they keep locked bootloader. These companies need to quit with this locked bootloader s#*t.
The note 4 is one of the best phones ever. It can still stand up to most new phones out there. Unlocked, replacable battery, sd card, ir port. Lots of development for it, need i say more.
With that being said, I'll be keeping my note 4 for a long while.
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Yup I agree. Once I heard the specs about the note 5 I completely lost interest. The note 7 does have some nice specs and the added SD Card support is great but still, too many essentials are missing. And most importantly the locked bootloader. No chance I'm going to buy a phone that is locked down. Hopefully nothing happens to my note 4 for the next few years.
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The FM radio is great and can use it to listen to my radio stations.
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Wait, what? How are you doing this?
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Wait, what? How are you doing this?
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The NextRadio app lets you do this. Sprint has unlocked the FM Radio in their phones for quite some time now.
I got my Note 4 last July. By that time, it had already been out for a while, but I had an early upgrade opportunity and made the jump from the Galaxy S5 I had gotten just 11 months earlier.
At the time, I was looking at either the Nexus 6 or the Note 4. Ultimately, the Note 4 won because of a removable battery and the option to add a micro SD card for extra storage. The phone still works great, and while I'm still about a year out from my upgrade point, I'm hoping there will be better options by that time.
iTzFeRReTTi said:
Not worth the upgrade in my opinion. Galaxy note 4 + 10000mAH battery is life
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agreed
[/COLOR]Locked bootloader? No thank you.
Only way to fully protect yourself from malvertising 0 day exploits is full phone adblock and AdAway needs root.
My Note 4 has been great, with Anker battery and wireless chargers everywhere never running out of juice.
The Note 7 is pretty disappointing to say the least. Really not much different than an S7 Edge. Sammy really dropped the ball on that one.
Keeping mine too. I'm done with Samsung. Time to move on to someone else
The main appeal to me is the water resistance but not knowing if the battery will die fairly rapidly like the note 4 battery pretty much counters that with it being not removable. Ill probably wait and see if the next nexus iteration has water resistance.
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The Note 7 is pretty disappointing to say the least. Really not much different than an S7 Edge. Sammy really dropped the ball on that one.
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Note 7 was meant to be disappointing. You gotta remember, the note series is intended for business users who have a need for a stylus. It was never going to have 6GB of RAM or the newest snapdragon. If we all expected that then we don't know why the S7 exists. It is the flagship phone from Samsung, not the Note. The people on XDA who root their notes pales in comparison to the actual number of note users who do not. Samsung is like any other company. IPhone has 1 flagship. That's what samsung wants
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The note 7 is still an awesome phone. Better specs than the note 4. I still don't mind using the note 4 and will continue to do so. I wanted to upgrade to the newest note but if the bootloader is locked and no possibility of root it's a no go for me.
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the Note 5 disappointed me but the Note 7 has everything i want except for an IR blaster.
If you don't think the Note 7 is an upgrade, you must not have played with it in real life. The phone is gorgeous especially the screen. The only thing I will miss is the IR blaster but oh well. Now to find where to sell my Note 4 for the highest price....
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