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Moto G Kitkat Review

Those who got the update share your review here

I think american users must be still asleep?
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I'm in the us with a us amazon version and still Haven't received the update. So when I do, sure I'll give a review as well as a flashable version.
Moto Gee :-¢

davwman said:
I'm in the us with a us amazon version and still Haven't received the update. So when I do, sure I'll give a review as well as a flashable version.
Moto Gee :-¢
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As they should be.
Moto Gee :-¢

davwman said:
I'm in the us with a us amazon version and still Haven't received the update. So when I do, sure I'll give a review as well as a flashable version.
Moto Gee :-¢
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i tried the guide which helped you flash the us sw on the EU version of the device, and it worked. I was running the US version for 1 day, tried updating, nothing worked, i kept it for about 26 hrs and no update popped up, i would've pulled the update and uploaded it. Now i returned to the EU version so i can benefit from the update when it rolls our for the EU versions. I can't say i'm disappointed, moto G is an awesome device, cant wait for january

I'll give my impressions once I actually get KitKat. I pre-ordered the US GSM model direct from Motorola, and I live right smack dab in the middle of the USA.....no update yet. =(

Improvements in camera ?
Any improvements in camera in this update ?

bharath78910 said:
Any improvements in camera in this update ?
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I doubt it, good cameras come from using good quality lenses and sensors, motorola skimped in the camera hardware for the price point knowing that most ppl just upload to facebook or ruin with instagram.

bharath78910 said:
Any improvements in camera in this update ?
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The camera is much faster and the pictures seem to come out sharper with better focus.
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just updated
phone seems to be a little bit snappier. but cant really compare yet as i just got the phone today, and updated after unlocking the BL and root. also i think a new addition in the cloud print option. camera is way better than JB (rear)
US - Global GSM

PottsyNZ said:
I doubt it, good cameras come from using good quality lenses and sensors, motorola skimped in the camera hardware for the price point knowing that most ppl just upload to facebook or ruin with instagram.
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The camera is most certainly improved with KitKat. The pictures seems to be much sharper than before.

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PottsyNZ said:
I doubt it, good cameras come from using good quality lenses and sensors, motorola skimped in the camera hardware for the price point knowing that most ppl just upload to facebook or ruin with instagram.
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Nice try. There is nothing wrong with the camera hardware in this phone. There has been some sort of aggressive software filter that blurred the photos in 4.3 but it is fixed in kitkat. Perhaps you should see for yourself next time.
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Anyone got before-after pictures to compare?

I have a XT1033 and after updating to kitkat I got no SIM signal..
So, got back to 4.3...

Just updated my Moto G, but the Google now command "OK Google" doesn't work from outside Google Now. I have to click on the button first to enter now, and then it works. Wonder if this feature is disabled on Moto G, or if I'm doing something wrong. Was kinda excited to be able to use my phone completely hands-free while driving etc.

endesmus said:
Just updated my Moto G, but the Google now command "OK Google" doesn't work from outside Google Now. I have to click on the button first to enter now, and then it works. Wonder if this feature is disabled on Moto G, or if I'm doing something wrong. Was kinda excited to be able to use my phone completely hands-free while driving etc.
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The always listening feature is Moto X only, unless i dont understand what you are asking for
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endesmus said:
Just updated my Moto G, but the Google now command "OK Google" doesn't work from outside Google Now. I have to click on the button first to enter now, and then it works. Wonder if this feature is disabled on Moto G, or if I'm doing something wrong. Was kinda excited to be able to use my phone completely hands-free while driving etc.
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I believe that if you get the GEL (Google Experience Launcher), it should work.

rogeriorp said:
I believe that if you get the GEL (Google Experience Launcher), it should work.
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Thanks it works now but not when the phone is inactive (black screen). I heard that Moto X can wake up at "OK Google" even when inactive, and I was hoping installing Kitkat would introduce this feature to Moto G, but I suppose I was wrong.
Thanks anyway!

^^that is MOTO X *ONLY* feature known as Touchless controls, which uses special X8 core on soc to always listen from you
However devs will never sit quitely
We have Open Mic+ and Utter!
Try those apps.

Should I jump to the Moto X?

Motorola is offering the X at a stupid cheap price. I was wondering how the dev scene is for the phone? Is it fully unlocked including the kernel?

Its fully unlocked if you buy the Dev edition or T-Mobile unlocked edition, the latter lose its warranty when unlocking. As for the 'dev scene' you could find that out yourself, but there will be official CM for it.
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Depends on which one your buying. Dev edition? Which carrier? Seems like most people (including myself) are just rooting and installing gravity box. The phone is so solid as is that I don't think most people feel the need to be flashaholics. Do yourself a huge favor and read up on all the development threads
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I would buy the Verizon edition and It would be the dev version;. Honestly yeah, Id just like to root it so I can well have root access for xposed framework, titanium back up etc.

I see it comes on JB 4.2.2 ... Also hows the hardware and camera?

Hardware is great IMO.....camera not so much
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I would assume its gotta be better than what I have on my razr maxx lolol

Don't know about Dev edition but my daughter just got hers and it had 4.4 installed.
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Well Imade the jump. 349 shipped for the motoX off contract cant be beat lol

mroneeyedboh said:
I would assume its gotta be better than what I have on my razr maxx lolol
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I'm pretty sure the camera is the same as the maxx. Actually, everything should be the same inside save for larger battery and wireless charging.
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tango41 said:
Don't know about Dev edition but my daughter just got hers and it had 4.4 installed.
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My VZ dev ed came with 4.2.2 installed build date on the box is 1/16/2014. It was delivered Thursday and it took 2 updates to get it to 4.4
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I can confirm that the Verizon non dev comes on 4.4.
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I'm thinking about making the jump today as well. It's the Moto X with a wood back or the Nexus 5. Has anyone transitioned from a Nexus 4 to the Moto X?
Main thing I'm concerned with is the lack of dev's and ROM options in comparison to my Nexus.

Sheldonjace said:
I'm thinking about making the jump today as well. It's the Moto X with a wood back or the Nexus 5. Has anyone transitioned from a Nexus 4 to the Moto X?
Main thing I'm concerned with is the lack of dev's and ROM options in comparison to my Nexus.
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Roms aren't in big demand here. Xposed and gravity box give all the same customizations. Plus cm based anything takes away the unique Moto x features.
If rom flashing is anyone's thing....I'd pass on the x.
Maybe when the x is done getting updates roms will start flowing....but don't see much happening before then.
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A better camera is the only thing stopping the Moto X from being the greatest phone of all time.
I own the Moto X Dev Edition GSM
My back up phone is the Nexus 5 to fulfill any flashing needs.

I dont have wireless charging and Im going to sell my phone on swappa. I dont have a need for it any longer.

kj2112 said:
Roms aren't in big demand here. Xposed and gravity box give all the same customizations. Plus cm based anything takes away the unique Moto x features.
If rom flashing is anyone's thing....I'd pass on the x.
Maybe when the x is done getting updates roms will start flowing....but don't see much happening before then.
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yeah I dont need to flash roms much anymore.. Im mainly interested in Xposed. That will work fine once rooted right? Would I need to root with the dev edition? this would be my first dev edition.
martinezma99 said:
A better camera is the only thing stopping the Moto X from being the greatest phone of all time.
I own the Moto X Dev Edition GSM
My back up phone is the Nexus 5 to fulfill any flashing needs.
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What all did you have to do to it? root it? unlock it?

mroneeyedboh said:
yeah I dont need to flash roms much anymore.. Im mainly interested in Xposed. That will work fine once rooted right? Would I need to root with the dev edition? this would be my first dev edition.
What all did you have to do to it? root it? unlock it?
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Yes...you still need to unlock dev edition boot loader...and root. Like the other phones capable of those. The only difference is you get to keep your warranty. Lol
And xposed will work fine once rooted.
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Okay yeah /I have to look into whats the best way to root and unlock. Im guessing there is a utility program.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2632761
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Chromecast Mirror Screen

So now that Google released an update to allow Chromecast Mirror Screen on N5, S4, LG G2 etc, can we somehow get it to work on our Moto G's?

That would be great, i was looking to buy one, if it can work with my moto g

Me too, be ordering one here I think £18.99. https://chromeshop.wuaki.tv/uk/checkout/index.html?

eemgee said:
Me too, be ordering one here I think £18.99. https://chromeshop.wuaki.tv/uk/checkout/index.html?
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Well it works perfectly, you can go ahead and buy it. This thread is about the screen mirroring option that Google started to roll out yesterday. Moto G will get it eventually, but it'd just be nice to have it now.

Are you kidding me? All carriers except Verizon?

Maybe I'm jumping to conclusions, but I thought the 6P was an unlocked device agnostic to all carriers.
I'm tempted to see what happens if I flash this factory fresh on my 6P which is on Verizon.
Edit: If I were to take a guess, either Verizon only wants their Pixel line of devices on 7.1.1, or there is an actual problem.
Regardless, I may bootloader unlock my device again if Verizon gets shafted in the update for 6P

Yeah, that caught me off guard too. Killed the Dev Preview, and updated everything EXCEPT for working on Verizon. Dev Preview 2 worked on VZW, so my question is, what the heck did they break so bad that now VZW doesnt work?

Could it just be something to do with the Visual Voicemail on Verizon being cooked into the newest 7.1.1 build?
But I am no way defending Verizon from being Evil. They are the Evil CDMA Red Dragon for sure.
*Sprint SERO FTW! :toot:

chevycam94 said:
Yeah, that caught me off guard too. Killed the Dev Preview, and updated everything EXCEPT for working on Verizon. Dev Preview 2 worked on VZW, so my question is, what the heck did they break so bad that now VZW doesnt work?
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Yeah, very odd none the less...
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Could it just be something to do with the Visual Voicemail on Verizon being cooked into the newest 7.1.1 build?
But I am no way defending Verizon from being Evil. They are the Evil CDMA Red Dragon for sure.
*Sprint SERO FTW! :toot:
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I would hope. We may be giving Verizon too much credit though. However I would do the opposite of complain if they did bake in VMM and Wifi Calling into 7.1.1 Nexus. Or heck, even one of those would be nice

Sooooo the real question is, who's gonna try flashing it and report back??

Really though, it must just be some sort of off the wall issue or feature that might have held it back from them alone. The 5X doesn't have the same update limit so, it's just something 6P specific. (Unless 7.1.1 brings Pixel features, and Verizon doesn't want Nexus to rain on their Pixel party just yet...)

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Sooooo the real question is, who's gonna try flashing it and report back??
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Lol. Might want to Bootloader Unlock for that one. That is key
If i was still in Custom Rom mode for my daily driver, I'd have no problem doing so.

I just flashed it and so far calls work fine between me and another verizon phone. Messing around to see if I can find what doesn't work, if anything.

This might be a crazy idea but you might just want to flash and see if it works if it doesn't flash back to DP2 or 7.0 what is the problem?

so i flashed it, im on verizon looks like there is no sound for notifications and ringer. In settings it just shows none with no option to change, so far from what ive noticed
edit disregard that, is working

KnifeSkills said:
I just flashed it and so far calls work fine between me and another verizon phone. Messing around to see if I can find what doesn't work, if anything.
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That's cool. Any new features?
theleet said:
This might be a crazy idea but you might just want to flash and see if it works if it doesn't flash back to DP2 or 7.0 what is the problem?
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Right now I am bootloader locked with OEM unlocking unchecked. If something were to go wrong, I'd most likely be screwed. Or maybe it wont even flash for me
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so i flashed it, im on verizon looks like there is no sound for notifications and ringer. In settings it just shows none with no option to change, so far from what ive noticed
edit disregard that, is working
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Good to know!

bigblueshock said:
Right now I am bootloader locked with OEM unlocking unchecked. If something were to go wrong, I'd most likely be screwed. Or maybe it wont even flash for me
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You can't flash anything with locked bootloader only accept official OTAs which you won't get probably because 'no verizon' so flashing it yourself is the only option really (I guess, OTAs will be rolling out to everyone over the next few days/weeks).

Everything seems to be working so far.
Created a boot.img that doesn't force encrypt. Flashed it then wiped userdata to be unencrypted. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B57DcrCR3fugajI4b3RleTlJSDg/view?usp=sharing
Then got root and adaway working using existing root stuff I had sitting around, I don't even know what the latest versions are but I used - TWRP 3.0.2, Magisk 7.0, phh superuser 17 magisk version, adaway systemless hosts v2, and adaway downloaded from f-droid.
Then flashed a zip I made with Pixel Launcher, Nexus Launcher Icons, and working stock version of the pixel Live Wallpapers with updated libs. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B57DcrCR3fugZDZaSnhYS05OSGM/view?usp=sharing
Next up: pixel navbar icons for this systemUI and build.prop edit for assistant

looks like ambient display still turns on even if set to off

I flashed it. Everything is working on vzw except Bluetooth in my GM vehicle
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=69943736
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It's almost fully working on VZW.
The problem is, and the probable reason for that notice is, that Verizon likes to promote their devices by their sw versions. I remember when their G3 got Lollipop first........that f**kin ad was everywhere.
So I believe they would like to throw in their bloatware in to the OTA first.

mihovil13 said:
It's almost fully working on VZW.
The problem is, and the probable reason for that notice is, that Verizon likes to promote their devices by their sw versions. I remember when their G3 got Lollipop first........that f**kin ad was everywhere.
So I believe they would like to throw in their bloatware in to the OTA first.
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pls vzw cant put there bloatware on google store bought phones only if you buy it from vzw and they never sold it so pls again that only happened with the nexus 6 and people found a way to remove the partition with the apps from vzw
its probably vzw just haven't approved the new radio yet or want a different one for them

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Next up: pixel navbar icons for this systemUI and build.prop edit for assistant
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Could you do a system tuner with the nav bar options for this?
NeXus 6P
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billycar11 said:
its probably vzw just haven't approved the new radio yet or want a different one for them
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Perhaps, but the DP2 radio is the same as this, and works fine for me. I'm really irritated by this, after buying from Google. It has to be some proprietary stuff to make CDMA work, except isn't sprint CDMA too? And they aren't an exception for the new release.
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Well I just installed the OTA image on my Nexus 6p (which runs on Verizon). After the upgrade completed, I noticed that my data connection was not active. The phone could make calls, but no data. I tried switching in and out of airplane mode, but that didn't fix it. So I powered off the phone, then powered it back on, and all was well. I connected at 4G and everything appeared to be fine. However, I do notice is that the VoLTE setting is nowhere to be found. If I search for "voice" under settings, I see "Enhanced 4G LTE Mode". But if I click it, it takes me to the "Cellular network settings" page, which does not list that setting. I just made a test call to another Verizon phone, and it didn't sound like the enhanced voice mode was active. Not really a big deal though. I'm sure a new update will correct that before long.

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Well I just installed the OTA image on my Nexus 6p (which runs on Verizon). After the upgrade completed, I noticed that my data connection was not active. The phone could make calls, but no data. I tried switching in and out of airplane mode, but that didn't fix it. So I powered off the phone, then powered it back on, and all was well. I connected at 4G and everything appeared to be fine. However, I do notice is that the VoLTE setting is nowhere to be found. If I search for "voice" under settings, I see "Enhanced 4G LTE Mode". But if I click it, it takes me to the "Cellular network settings" page, which does not list that setting. I just made a test call to another Verizon phone, and it didn't sound like the enhanced voice mode was active. Not really a big deal though. I'm sure a new update will correct that before long.
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Aah. Well, on DP2 I noticed I was unable to call voicemail, it just hung up on me. The fix ended up being disabling enhanced lte/hd voice in my account. I still have the vvm. As dp2 is the same version as the official, that's likely the reason a separate release will be needed. Personally, I don't care about the HD Voice, but enhanced LTE would be good to get back.
NeXus 6P

Verizon wear24 any way to unlock for use with other carrier?

I just picked up a Verizon Wear24 for cheap. I'm a Project Fi user and would like to get rid of the verizon crap on the watch and link it more completely to my phone. I'm new to Android Wear but not to android. Is there a way to unlock AW and flash a more stock ROM?

jnasmith said:
I just picked up a Verizon Wear24 for cheap. I'm a Project Fi user and would like to get rid of the verizon crap on the watch and link it more completely to my phone. I'm new to Android Wear but not to android. Is there a way to unlock AW and flash a more stock ROM?
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The SIM actually comes out in this if you take it apart enough. You can replace with any SIM of your choosing. The real problem is that the phone is limited on bands as it is just LTE band 13. Let's say you succeeded in adding bands, you would still have an issue entering APN settings as this menu is restricted.

Without root you cannot add any bands. i did this with my tmobile lg g3 back in the day. while complicated it did work.
Has anyone rooted this watch?

Adding bands to qualcomm you must patch rmt-storage or any modifications to the bands will revert
then you have to enable APN menu as adding new APN is disabled on this firmware.

Since this watch was available at $80, a lot of people jump in to get one. Hopefully with time we get more developers to be involve. I'm looking to replace the bands. As of now I don't care about LATE. But I wish we can enable NFC for Android pay

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Since this watch was available at $80, a lot of people jump in to get one. Hopefully with time we get more developers to be involve. I'm looking to replace the bands. As of now I don't care about LATE. But I wish we can enable NFC for Android pay
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Same here, working android pay would be great!
Would be nice to have separate forum for this model

Ordered mine for $80 and received it today. It would be nice to see the developers work some magic on this thing. Don't like the fact its stuck on Verizon and all the Verizon bloat on it. I can live without LTE but would love to see the Verizon SMS app and stuff go.

samt3 said:
Ordered mine for $80 and received it today. It would be nice to see the developers work some magic on this thing. Don't like the fact its stuck on Verizon and all the Verizon bloat on it. I can live without LTE but would love to see the Verizon SMS app and stuff go.
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For now you can just disable the Message+ app in System apps. Also disable the cellular radio.

Interesting approach, wonder if you can still send and receive texts with Message+ disabled?

Working for me fine

lifeisfun said:
Working for me fine
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That's great news. Can't wait to try.
This is one of the common review cons for the Wear24. Would be awesome if it was that easy [emoji16]

dattguy said:
That's great news. Can't wait to try.
This is one of the common review cons for the Wear24. Would be awesome if it was that easy [emoji16]
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Yeah, folks should probably use it for some time before posting review.
Too bad we won't see any updates but for $75 this watch is great buy.

lifeisfun said:
Yeah, folks should probably use it for some time before posting review.
Too bad we won't see any updates but for $75 this watch is great buy.
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It is, I bought a couple. There were enough sold that root and rooms will come...

lifeisfun said:
Working for me fine
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I have Sprint. Will I be able to receive calls via Bluetooth (speaker phone)? I have been told different things. Also will texting work like normal (voice response)without the Verizon text app? Will it work like another watch that isn't carrier specific?

Clayter21 said:
I have Sprint. Will I be able to receive calls via Bluetooth (speaker phone)? I have been told different things. Also will texting work like normal (voice response)without the Verizon text app? Will it work like another watch that isn't carrier specific?
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yes for the speaker phone function
yes for texting (I'm using the defaults android messaging app and hangouts)

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yes for the speaker phone function
yes for texting (I'm using the defaults android messaging app and hangouts)
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That's freaking awesome news thanks. I've been told by bunch of people that it won't work at all unless you have Verizon however it doesn't make sense because it's Android Wear watch

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yes for the speaker phone function
yes for texting (I'm using the defaults android messaging app and hangouts)
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Well mine came with wear 2.0 and speaker phone died not work and cannot text by voice. Any suggestions?

Clayter21 said:
Well mine came with wear 2.0 and speaker phone died not work and cannot text by voice. Any suggestions?
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Check if your BT profile is set to phone audio.
Or reset the watch and start over

lifeisfun said:
Check if your BT profile is set to phone audio.
Or reset the watch and start over
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Bt is phone audio. I'll do a reset see if that helps. Hope so because it is a nice watch. Maybe we will get stock wear it soon and have the full potential unlocked.

Tried the reset but no change. Everything seems to work except the mic. Google assist also does not work for texting with ok google. Watch is solid tho.