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For some reason I have noticed that my att note 3 n900a stutters and lags when playing games that my mega 6.3 and note 2 have zero issues playing. Games like, Fifa14, Nba2k13, Homerun Battle 2, Real Basketball, and Frontline Commando. This baffles me, give the fact the adreno 330 and quad core a15 based krait 400 is theoretically capable of nearly double the computational capacity of the exynos 4412 of the note 2, and around 1.25x faster than the dual core a15 based s400 chip in the mega with adreno 305. The only thing I can figure which would cause this stuttering, frame dropping, and lag is lack of optimization or compatibility with the newer gpu, but given the fact the mega has the same basic architectural framework, albeit dual vs quad core a15 and higher clock, the compatibility should not be the issue. Im wondering if the insane overheating is causing massive throttling of the cpu and gpu, as my n3 heats up and dims the screen by 60% in only a few minutes of play, which is extremely annoying.
Ive also noticed that pictures take appx 4 to 6 seconds to process upon capturing the image, when set at 13mp and superfine quality. Again, with the power of the soc this is ridiculous.
There is also a bad delay between hitting the lock button and the time it takes for the phone to turn off the screen and lock the phone.
Lastly is the worst problem with the note 3...the call quality and speaker quality. While others may attempt to justify the hideous sound quality of the speakers baffles me, as the ear piece is quiet and tinny, and the speakerphone is so tinny and filled with digital artifacts it makes calling or talking on the note 3 an absolute chore. I realize the fact that its a phone and am not expecting dolby 7.1 hd audiophile quality, but the call quality of the note 3 is atrocious and has kept me on the edge of retunring it, as it fails to be even a decent phone.
All in all, im a massive note fan, I own all 4 note devices and love them, and bought the note 3 to be a backup to my mega 6.3 but to be honest. Its nowhere near the phone the note 2 is. For all its power and benchmark bragging rights, it performs identical or worse in nearly every aspect to the note 2 and mega 6.3 in real world use. The ui transitions are identical, as is the scrolling animations. The call and sound quality cannot stamd up even to my nearly 2 year old note 1 and are an absolute joke for an 800 dollar flagship device.
Another decision by samsung that I cannot comprehend is the s pen and software for the s pen. The s note app has had the entire premium suite stripped feom note 2 in the note 3 inexplicably, missing formula match with wolfram alpha, global search, and shape fixing. The handwriting recognition either doesnt work at all, or when it chooses to work, is a horribly ineefective "scrolling style" input vs. The intuitive and precise input of my note 2, note8, and note 10.1. The action memo is a redesigned ui of quick command ripped directly from note 2, except minus the customizable inputs and actions which quick command allows for in the rest of the note series.
If I wasnt a massive note series fan, and hadnt waited almost a year for the note 3 I would never have purchased it at all. Especailly given that its .13 inches larger than note 2, which is appx 3.2mm taller screen which is so tiny of a difference even side by side its hard to tell them apart. Subjectively, I much prefer the note 2 look and design, and overwhelmingly love the mega screen size over note 3, on top of the tacky fake stiching back panel, I am having to force myself to find anything at all which I like or serves me better than the note 2. Worse s pen input, worse s pen shape and size, stuttering laggy gameplay, overheating and screen dimming...EXTREME BATTERY DRAIN vs note 2, giving appx 2 hours less screen on time at identical settings of brightness and features active, and call quality so bad I try to avoid it if possible any time I carry the phone.
All in all, the only upgrades ive seen in the week 9 days ive had the note 3 is a slightly clearer picture quality in bright lighting, but this is offset with terrible mid and low light quality due to lack of any night mode for shooting, and slightly brighter screen. Hopefully samsung and att will update the note 3 soon to adress several of these issues in the software, as I do see great potential for the note 3 given the hardware kit inside, but the speaker and call quality is a hardware issue that is doubtful to change.
I am making this post as an honest objective take on my experience with the note 3, a phone I was absolutely ecstatic to get at 10:01 on day 1 of launch, but has left me dissapointed and havent seen these issues adressed honestly and openly. Again, I love the note lineup, I now have all 5 note devices and will be getting note 10.1 2014 after the first update releases, so please dont mistake where im coming from, as im sure much of these issues will hopefully get sorted out soon.
Hm..
I'm loving every aspect of this phone. I am coming from an HTC One, though.
I hardly ever play any games, mainly Hero of Many and Fieldrunners 2. I'm not having any issues with them. I'll see if I can try out the games you listed to check out the lag.
With the camera you can turn off Smart Stabilization and the processing time goes away completely. I don't really notice a difference with it on or off, but then again I hardly take pictures.
I love using the S Pen and the handwriting recognition works flawlessly for me; not sure what is going on there.
Power button lag is weird, I'll give you that one. Sometimes it's instant, other times I hear the locking sound but the screen stays on for 1-2 seconds afterwards.. doesn't really bother me, though.
Battery life is absolutely amazing so far. ~4-5 hours screen on time with 20% left is amazing in my book. Much better than my HTC One.
Loudspeaker quality does suck, unfortunately. Not enough for me to care, though.
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I play some of the games you listed for a bit and didn't notice any slowdown or lagging. I did not clear my RAM or close any applications prior to installing/playing the games.
Thats great man im gkad your enjoying it.
The handwriting recognition is the text messaging input or other conversion from handwriting to text, not the free hand part which works as it should. I take it youve never used note 2 or youd know the massive difference between the handwriting recognition imput styles...n2 50x better homestly. The s pen itself is also much thinner and narrower which makes it awkward to hold when writing, thankfully I have my note 2 one laying around or note 8 that I use so Im not stuck using the note 3s tiny little one.
The screen on time like I said is appx 2 hours less than note 2, and 3 hrs less than mega 6.3...never touched an htc phone so I have no cluewhat you were getting there...but my note 3 at full brightness only manages around 3 hrs, at 75% around 3.5 hrs...identical to my buddies sprint variant as well. Not exactly steallar when note 2 at full brightness pulls 5 to 6 and my mega easily goes 7 hours plus 20 hrs of standby time.
Im aware of the stabilization mode for the camera, but that doesnt automatically fix the processing as it occurs at random vs everytime with it activated. But the quality is the bigger issue, great bright light pictures but horrible mid to low light pics.
Try actually playing the games my man and you will see, as these issues have popped up on 4 different variants including the intl exynos that ive peraonally played on, not solely on my note. Play a half a game of fifa14 and wait till your soc is 160 degrees and tell me it diesnt dim or lag lol
Congrats coming from the dark side (htc) lol...the note 3 is a good phone but will be stellar once these issues get resolved like I said before, except the call and soeaker quality which is atrocious.
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Try a custom ROM such as cyanogen
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Try a custom ROM such as cyanogen
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Thanks for the suggestion, but id rather not have an 800 dollar paper wight. My best friends intl n9000 got bricked remotely as samsung knox registry does periodic pings, and samsung will brick rooted devices. I watched it happen in person. Plus no warranty...ill wait for the update lol
Haha good call I hope things go well
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Early in your post you mention overheating. Did you apply an early version of the Vega root method? I've heard the original firmware had some issues. I've had my Note3 since Tuesday last week and I haven't had any of the issues you are describing in your post.
You definitely use the S-Pen more than I do, I just scrapbook and do simple SNote taking for meetings with mine but the handwriting recognition has been perfect for me so far and I have awful handwriting.
I don't play any high end games really just stuff like Candy Crush, Plants vs. Zombies, Osmosis HD, Sushi Chop and Ingress but in those games I have seen zero stutter or lag and have had zero overheating issues.
I've also not had any power button lock lag. I have, a couple times now, had wake lag but maybe only 2-3 times in the last week and only right after I've received a SMS message so I might have hit the button while the screen was awake from incoming message and actually turned it off before looking at it.
Also picture processing for me has been fast. I went to an event this weekend and took a ton of pictures and video and although the picture quality was decent I wasn't blown away, but I think that is a common complaint for a lot of Note3 owners. I've had zero issues with picture processing times with Smart Stabilization either off or on.
If you have not applied an old firmware via the original Vega root then is it possible you just have a defective unit? The screen dimming and overheating you are describing would concern me a lot if that were happening on mine.
lag could be because of 1080p screen.
Background of me, I came from HTC one and S4 but I previously had Note 2 and 1 as well.
I just tried Fifa14 and Homerun Battle 2 on my Note 3 and there's zero lag. Mine is rooted with no issue of heating up or dimming screen. It gets warm a bit and that's it.
Like other suggested, turn off smart stabalization and problem's solved.
I notice that it happens random on mine as well but rarely the screen hang before it turns off. Most of the time, screen shut off as soon as I hit lock/power button.
Call quality is prefectly fine. I get better signal than my HTC one and call quality is excellent. Speakers can be better compare to Note 2 I must admit but on Note 2 I have registry hack going on so I wonder if I can change the value to make the Note 3 speaker louder. The sound quality is definitely better on N3 compare to N2 except it's a bit quieter IMO. Headphone output is excellent. I must say N3 is far from being fail to be a decent phone as you've said.
Compare Spen between N2 and N3, I prefer N2 stylus as well due to it's heavier weight and feel better but N3 stylus is a lot better on sensitivity and accuracy. To each it's own. I get use it pretty quick.
Can't comment on the battery life since I just got this phone 2 days ago but I can say it is better than HTC one battery life. I can go through HTC one with viper rom which supposed to be pretty darn good battery life and yet I have to charge twice a day with the way I use the phone. On N3, it lasted me a whole day. That's really more than I can ask for and it should be about the same as N2 battery life or better.
Sorry you don't have good experience with N3. May be you got the bad one out of the bunch. I suggest try to exchange it with a new one and try it out.
PS> You talk about your friend phone got bricked by Samsung Knox thing and I just don't see this is valid. My N3 is rooted and all the knox related stuff is freezed by Titanium Backup. Even without freezing it, I still don't think samsung is bricking the phones. Your friend must have done something wrong and don't wanna admit but to blame to Samsung Knox. No offense.
This is my 5th Note and I'm quite pleased with it. Formula match and convert handwriting to text are still there. You draw them with the pen on the main Note page and then select them with the cloud tool. This menu pops up.
Give this app a whirl if your rooted...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.grilledmonkey.lagfix&hl=en
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Give this app a whirl if your rooted...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.grilledmonkey.lagfix&hl=en
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May be I am wrong but isn't 4.3 has built in feature of this?
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This is my 5th Note and I'm quite pleased with it. Formula match and convert handwriting to text are still there. You draw them with the pen on the main Note page and then select them with the cloud tool. This menu pops up.
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Barry...nice find, im in my 4th year of med school going thru physics, and biochemical analytics and use the wolfram based formula match constantly and couldn't find it.
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Barry...nice find, im in my 4th year of med school going thru physics, and biochemical analytics and use the wolfram based formula match constantly and couldn't find it.
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Background of me, I came from HTC one and S4 but I previously had Note 2 and 1 as well.
I just tried Fifa14 and Homerun Battle 2 on my Note 3 and there's zero lag. Mine is rooted with no issue of heating up or dimming screen. It gets warm a bit and that's it.
Like other suggested, turn off smart stabalization and problem's solved.
I notice that it happens random on mine as well but rarely the screen hang before it turns off. Most of the time, screen shut off as soon as I hit lock/power button.
Call quality is prefectly fine. I get better signal than my HTC one and call quality is excellent. Speakers can be better compare to Note 2 I must admit but on Note 2 I have registry hack going on so I wonder if I can change the value to make the Note 3 speaker louder. The sound quality is definitely better on N3 compare to N2 except it's a bit quieter IMO. Headphone output is excellent. I must say N3 is far from being fail to be a decent phone as you've said.
Compare Spen between N2 and N3, I prefer N2 stylus as well due to it's heavier weight and feel better but N3 stylus is a lot better on sensitivity and accuracy. To each it's own. I get use it pretty quick.
Can't comment on the battery life since I just got this phone 2 days ago but I can say it is better than HTC one battery life. I can go through HTC one with viper rom which supposed to be pretty darn good battery life and yet I have to charge twice a day with the way I use the phone. On N3, it lasted me a whole day. That's really more than I can ask for and it should be about the same as N2 battery life or better.
Sorry you don't have good experience with N3. May be you got the bad one out of the bunch. I suggest try to exchange it with a new one and try it out.
PS> You talk about your friend phone got bricked by Samsung Knox thing and I just don't see this is valid. My N3 is rooted and all the knox related stuff is freezed by Titanium Backup. Even without freezing it, I still don't think samsung is bricking the phones. Your friend must have done something wrong and don't wanna admit but to blame to Samsung Knox. No offense.
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If you read my post you would have understood...I laid out the issues my and a few of my close friends are all having, mainly related to software issues that I said will get patched or fixed....the call, sound, and speaker quality of the PHONE part of the note 3 sucks...its no where near the clarity of the note 2, mega 6.3, or s4...the speakers and mic of the note 3 are hideous...maybe its difference for me since I have 7 other flagship phones laying around to compare it to, but in my opinion, that of my 3 best friends, and several people on xda and vast amounts across other forums the speakers are terrible, and filled with digital whitenoise as I said previously.
The s pen sensitivity can be tweaked on all s pen so that makes no difference to the feel or physical dimensions hahah...its an awkward, narrow, weightless piece of plastic compared to the note 2 pen, luckily for me I can keep it in the silo and use my other note pens.
And knox is causing hard bricks as validated by samsung tech support...its a mechanism in place to stop data mining if the device is stolen. So no, he didnt do anything wrong as it functioned rooted for several hours, then he went to unlock it after pulling it out of his pocket and it was off...upon reboot he got an error message and a symbol I had never seen before, then proceeded to call samsung tech for the next hour and a half. Just search xda for note 3 brick or note 3 know brick and you shall see many others my man....ps you realize the difference between att n3 and Intl right? Wheras att disabled the knox protocol except for the mainframe security, whereas intl phones have an app with knox that allows dual booting...
Anyway, as a device note 3 will be great once some bugs and kinks get worked out, but as a phone it sucks
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I have no lag playing games nor any power button issues. The only annoying part of the phone so far is the brightness levels not gradually changing. I think you have a defective phone/software installed.
Anyone tried a note 2 pen with note 3? Would it recognize on screen and would it even fit?
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I think you have a bad unit. I have had the OG Note, Note II and now the Note 3 and this by far is the best of the bunch in all aspects.
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I have trouble believing samsung would want to or care purposely brick rooted devices. Seems like good ground for a class action lawsuit if a manufacturer remotely accesses and bricks your device.
Anyway, try turning off one handed operation. Someone posted that it greatly affects benchmarks and it really does. It might be hindering your devices gaming performance.
This all makes me sad.
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Hi all, I'm currently using the Galaxy S5 and looking to upgrade to the G4. Anyone has switched to the G4 from Samsung's high end phones like the S6 or the Note 4? Can you give some impressions and comparisons (Camera (most important), screen, performance)? Thanks a lot!
From Note 4.... The G4 should crush the S5 except water resistance
I did it after one month with s6 edge, battery in s6 edge is so bad, other things are ok and almost identical, no lags on both phones. Camera is identical.
I came from the S5 to the G4 and haven't even had a second thought on going back
Camera is amazing. UX 4.0 beats Touchwiz (in my opinion better than S6 as well, my wife has that). Just takes some getting used to the no "hard" home buttons and the power/volume buttons on the back rather than the side but once you do it's actually more convenient knowing a case can protect them even more and are less susceptible to being damaged
I came from galaxy s3. Well, it's obvious that the g4 performs wayyyy much better
Note 4 to G4 here. So far, seems better in all aspects. Only one it might not beat the Note 4 in is battery, but I haven't had for long enough to really see how it averages. Camera is better. UI seems cleaner and easier to use. Love double tap on, as I was used to it with the HTC M8 and missed it on the Note 4. Only weird thing I had to get used to was in the cam app, the 3 software buttons don't show up (have to hit the back button in the camera view).
LG really did well with this phone
Thanks all , would love to hear more from Note 4 and S6 users too!
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I came from galaxy s3. Well, it's obvious that the g4 performs wayyyy much better
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I made same switch. And yeah, the G4 does seem to have just slightly better performance.
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Thanks all , would love to hear more from Note 4 and S6 users too!
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I'll post more as I get to use phone more. Just got yesterday. So far, it's really nice. I had almost written LG off after the Optimus G. Glad I didn't. So far:
PROs for G4 vs Note 4
Lighter. Also noticeably smaller despite screen being almost same size.
Better Camera
UI - UX 4.0 really is nice and light
No Keyboard FCs! Man that was annoying in Lollipop Note 4...keyboard FC but stayed on screen, had to reboot to get rid of
Double tap on and Knock unlock code
Themes
Settings app broken down into proper sections (Note 4 Settings scrolls all day with all settings on a single scrolling list)
Can get a real Glass Screen Protector without the dreaded Halo effect around all edges (Note 4 curved edge to screen caused this no matter which glass protector I used (tried 6).
64 bit processor
Faster in real world use
Cool offers of free stuff from LG
About $200 cheaper
PROs for Note 4
Stylus (I only used a handful of times....was more of a gimmick to me)
Better battery life?
Fingerprint scanner and heartrate monitor (I hardly used either, as the fingerprint scanner required an odd hand placement for such a large phone)
Physical Home button
Just different between the 2:
Home button and volume button placements (I prefer LG after using for a little bit)
Both have IR blaster, large beautiful screens, expandable storage, 3GB RAM, excellent wireless radios.
Switched over from a Samsung Galaxy S4...I traded it in for $100 to At&T so my G4 only cost me $99 + tax on my upgrade option. Loving it so far, praying for root to get rid of the bloatware. :fingers-crossed:
I did. I have the S6e at home and I intend to switch back and fourth. The G4 feels so much bigger. The camera quality is NOT the same and I have tested them both in the same scenarios. The s6 is brighter and crisper than the G4. Stock launchers is far better and faster than TW. TW began to lag on my S6, so I installed Nova Prime and it was super fast again. Battery on the G4 is 10 times better than the S6. I got 36 hrs on my G4 and still had 25% left.
I came from a rooted Note 3. First non-phone-specific: I REALLY REALLY miss root. The ability to block ads is missed and I have to wait to restore all of my titanium backups that I have sitting till the G4 is rooted.
As far as performance goes, my Note 3 was pretty snappy. I haven't noticed very many differences in performance yet. But I've been waiting for the battery to get a few cycles before I really start pushing performance with games and stuff.
Other than that, I don;t really miss my Note 3. The G4 is smaller, looks nicer has a better (but only slightly smaller) screen. I kind of miss AMOLED screen tech for battery and contrast, but everything else makes up for it. Do not regret it.:good:
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I did. I have the S6e at home and I intend to switch back and fourth. The G4 feels so much bigger. The camera quality is NOT the same and I have tested them both in the same scenarios. The s6 is brighter and crisper than the G4. Stock launchers is far better and faster than TW. TW began to lag on my S6, so I installed Nova Prime and it was super fast again. Battery on the G4 is 10 times better than the S6. I got 36 hrs on my G4 and still had 25% left.
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I have an S6e as well and agree with you. I had a Note 4 before the S6e and now the G4 and it feels downright massive compared to the S6e. The Note 4 felt smaller to me because it was thinner but it was a big device as well. I got rid of my Note 4 because of it's size, I ride motorcycles almost daily and the damned thing was never comfortable in my pocket, it was just too big and rectangle and flat. The S6e is perfect size for me in that regard but I really miss having a larger display (had a Nexus 6 before the Note). Because of the slight curvature of the back of the G4 it makes just enough of a difference in my jeans that it doesn't dig the corners of the phone into my leg when I squeeze the tank in turns, etc.
Cameras between S6e and G4 seem pretty similar to me but there is a difference but I attribute that to Samsung doing a better job of processing the jpg file that's output than LG with the G4 having the ace in the hole of giving you the raw file you can subsequently edit yourself. I know that's not what most people want to do (myself included for phone snaps), but I think the LG camera is better for that reason alone as you can certainly make a better image in the end. All that said, I believe the S6e will do the same once it gets official 5.1.1 and then a proper camera comparo can be done, though in all honesty it's still a phone camera and they are both outstanding for what they are.
Same thoughts on launchers too, the iteration of TW on the S6e is much better than anything they've done before but it still suffers from the same old problems of lag ultimately. I too use Nova (on both phones) and it solves the issue. If forced to use stock, I would probably pick the LG but I do hate the DPI of 640 and everything is so damned big and there's so much wasted screen real estate. The S6e out of the box with it's adjustable grid sizes and what not better utilizes the screen.
Agree on battery life also. On the stock ROM I could make it through a day (I work 18-20h shifts at times) on a single charge but I would cut it close some days. The built in Qi charging is really nice and I have a charger at work and I can just drop the phone on it when I can make it to my office and the quick charge via the INCLUDED wall charger is awesome. So even though the battery life wasn't great, it's quite easy to top it off. I did run the leaked TMo 5.1.1 software for a week or so and the battery life on it is a completely different animal. I could make it nearly 48 hours without a top off, so again, with 5.1.1 I think the S6e will be a lot better device than it currently is. The battery life on my G4 seems great so far. I've run it down to 10% twice now and it was at about 40h off charger each time. The phone itself supports quick charge 2.0 but the included wall charger doesn't. The wall charger charges it incredibly slow so I've been using my S6e charger which charges it in about 1/3 the time. I ordered a proper quick charge 2.0 certified charger that should be here tomorrow along with a Qi sticker for the stock back. All things considered, the G4 battery is certainly longer lasting but more of a pain in the ass to recharge for now (until my free spare battery from the promo shows up lol!) and for the way/scenarios I use my phone I prefer the S6e here. My Note 4 easily crushed them both in this category, it could go just over 3 days before dying.
Coming from S5 (Verizon) to the G4 (Verizon) ...
The S6 with no SD support was a no-go for me.
Battery life seems a little shorter than the S5. I suspect it is due to the beefier processor on the G4 even though the G4 has a bigger battery. The battery on the G4 seems to drop a LOT less when unused however.
I am kinda missing my fingerprint scanner on the S5, but the knock code and "locked files" in gallery help me keep certain pictures away from prying eyes.
Speaking of pictures, this camera is awesome. Period. Check out the "My LG G4 Photography" thread by alexfoxy. The front camera is pretty good too. A lady friend took a few selfies with my phone and said "damn, your phone makes me look good!"
I don't really notice the difference in the screen (size or resolution). S5 looked good and a the size is right for my big hands. G4 is the same.
This is the first phone that I didn't immediately wish for a ROM. I am missing my ad-blocking that requires root, but the default ROM is clean and fast (maybe kudos the the processor). I did have to change home back to Apex, tho.
All in all, very happy with the upgrade.
I'm coming from the Note 4 and I'm pretty sure the G4 is here to stay with me.
I can basically echo what others are saying;
- the ui is cleaner and smoother
- overall phone seems a lot smoother/quicker I haven't had much stuttering. The Note had its moments where it'd freeze or stutter really badly, even on a custom rom
- maybe it's just me but the pictures from the camera seem sharper.
- It feels better in hand aswell.
- The double tap on screen to unlock is nice to have
- the clip tray being an option when I long press where I would usually paste is nice to see as with the Note, the clipboard only showed up in select places
It just seems nicer overall. I do hope root comes soon as I'd want to disable some stuff.
In terms of battery, I feel like the Note might of done better but then again I had certain crap apps disabled *cough* tmo my account *cough*
I can't exactly judge though since my service at work sucks so whatever phone I use drains quickly. For some reason when I had the OnePlus it did a ton better in the poor coverage areas (in terms of battery drain) but it didn't have WiFi calling which is a big deal to me.
I didn't use the spen as much as I initially thought I would. When it came to taking notes I always went back to typing them rather than writing with the stylus. Although it did come in handy for selecting certain parts of a pic online and whatnot and quickly sharing it to something like hangouts.
Fingerprint and shealth I never cared for.
I haven't "missed" my Note 4 yet. I like having new devices and I'm sure I don't use them to their potential as some others do here but for my purposes the phone is great
Even though I have the HTC One M9 Dev Edition, I consider myself coming from the T-Mobile S5 to the T-Mobile G4. The dealmaker for me were the replaceable battery and removable storage. I'm still keeping my S5 of course. I still need a root-capable device.
To ex-note 4 users
What made you switch ?
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What made you switch ?
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Regarding the Note 4I got irritated with it to the point where I paid off half the phone's price to get rid of it. Lollipop was an absolute mess. First, we waited forever. Then when we get it, it really messed up the phone. Issues I had:
1) Constant keyboard FC (where keyboard stays on screen permanent until reboot)...this would happen about once an hour, but only when using special characters ( . , * $ etc).
2) Upon unlocking, I would go to a black screen occasionally, requiring me to press the power button to shut off phone, then turn back on.
3) Trying to open an e-mail from notifications would take me to e-mail APP, but to a blank page with a back button.
4) Sometimes, cellular radio would choose to ignore wireless data altogether despite being in a strong LTE area.
5) Wifi calling would hardly connect, and was as likely to drop mid-call as it was to stay connected
6) Battery life went from 2 days with my usage to about 18 hours.
On top of those Lolli issues, the settings menu was a mess...scroll all day to find the menu I wanted. Missed double tap to wake too.
While I LOVED the look of the M9 and I love HTC in general, I eliminated HTC M9 due to 2 reasons:
1) The camera wasn't a contender with the current flagships and I use it as my primary camera to take pics of my kids.
2) No dual apps on same screen. It's a feature I used on the Note 4, and M9 didn't have it.
The S6 got eliminated due to 3 main reasons:
1) Looks too much like IPhone...sorry, just not my style
2) Touchwiz...granted my opinion is based on the Note 4, but I found it to be overly heavy and loaded with things I don't really use.
3) No expandable storage. I read their point of using high speed EMMC and wanting to keep system fast. What I read in that was "Blah blah blah we want you to pay MORE to get more storage". Again, goes back to too much like IPhone.
I'm not saying the G4 is perfect...I'd love it to have an 8 core processor, but it's really powerful enough as is. It's not overloaded with apps I won't really used or features I don't use. I'm sure I'll find things I don't LOVE as I use it more, but nothing is jumping out at me so far, and considering this has only been out for what...2 weeks, it's still early release, so bugs could be expected somewhat even though I've had none thusfar. I also liked the promotions LG was putting with it considering it's the least expensive of all the flagships out there (at least for us T-Mobile customers...it's $50 less than the M9, $80 less than S6, $180 less than S6E, hell, it's even cheaper than a 16GB IPhone 6).
Sorry so long
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What made you switch ?
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im a phone whore ......... i wanted a new toy till the note 5 comes out. I pray they dont ruin it like they did the galaxy series
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im a phone whore ......... i wanted a new toy till the note 5 comes out. I pray they dont ruin it like they did the galaxy series
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hah, once their sales figures come in they will not make that same mistake with the s7 is my hunch. g2-g3, m7-m8
Talk about scoring an own goal against LG
g2 vs s4 and g4 vs s6 (!)
At the time if g2 intl version was like g2 korean version i think i would have bought it.
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i'm not one of those TL;DR types.
So Hey guys! Couple of days ago I bought S7 Edge with a 24 month contract (thank God I can pay it quicker) cause my S6 fell apart. Later I even realised that it had fake PLASTIC back. Advice to other people. Better get new ones!
But let's go back to the main topic which is.. Should You leave/sell Your S6/Edge and get a S7/Edge?
Quick answer aka spoiler alert: YESSSS! You definitely should
Let's compare first couple of things. Like camera, performance, speaker, build quality, new features, battery life, custom roms, display quality and similar things.
1. Camera:
S6 has a 16MP camera with 16:9 aspect. And honestly this is the best camera I've ever used(on a phone, dslr's are a different topic) (even though it had a broken OIS in it and it was barely possible to get focus.) S7 Edge has 12MP Dual Pixel camera with 4:3 aspect and honestly.. it actually looks pretty nice. They somehow balanced this camera to take really pretty pictures even without 16:9 aspect (which on photo comparisons IS visible). Other than that S7 Edge takes really great quality photos. Even in COMPLETE DARKNESS! Detail wise both devices have quietly same amount of details on pictures If You look at two photo examples taken with both phones the only thing You'll notice is that S6 has 16:9 aspect and S7 Edge has deeper colours and handles the light a lot better.
I'll try to add some photos as a comparison later.
2. Battery:
S6 has a 2500mAh battery (i'll correct this later if it's slightly different) and S7 Edge (in my case) has a 3600mAh battery. A HUGE monster! I had to charge my S6 AT LEAST twice a day (once a day on stock kernel/rom without root). And my S7 Edge is really hard to discharge it! (running a custom kernel btw). I can play games with highest graphic settings, watch movies, browse the web, call people, text them and check my email etc and at the end of the day (6-8am I wake up) around 10-11pm my phone is at around 20%. Which is great! To get the same results on S6 I would need to charge it again around 3-4pm and then MAYBE it would have ~20% at the end of the day. And for the curious ones, I charge my phone overnight.
Screen on time for my S6 was around 3-4 hours and S7 Edge gets 5-6 hours (so far).
3. Display:
Both devices come with quite the same display but there is noticeable difference when it comes to colours!
My S6 always had a stunning display, but since I've switched to S7 Edge I could HONESTLY see more vibrant colours. The colour red before was really red, and now it's really really red! Maybe it's because the S7 Edge also has a brighter display (in this case I'm not sure if that happens to all s6 models or if it just was my faulty model, no idea).
Other than that S7 Edge has a 5'5 inch display which is in my opinion perfect size. I still can use my one hand to reach the other end of the screen. And watching movies on it finally feels better.
4. Performance
S6 has 3GB of LPDDR4 ram and S7 Edge has 4GB of LPDDR4 ram, both devices have octa core processors and well... I forgot what Ghz they both have but that isn't THAT important (use google and we all know that what it says on the box doesn't mean that the device will be super slow or super fast).
S6 gets around 80-90k score on antutu (the higher the more battery life suffers)
And S7 Edge gets around 130-140k score.
But the real question is. Is it really noticeably faster?
It is! TouchWiz seems a lot smoother on 6.0.1 just like S6 did on 5.1.1. And things like converting a video or unpacking zip/rar files also happen a lot faster. Other than that flashing roms or even that annoying green screen with cogwheels that takes like an hour to load all applications, now takes less than 10 minutes. Which is awesome! I'd say that both devices boot really fast and with S6 barely working I can't compare booting times but I would say that it's barely noticeable.
5. Features!:
S7 Edge has obviously an Edge display that is truly something amazing and makes certain apps look cool. But it's not as sweet and pretty as You would think! Sometimes when You hold the phone the screen gets locked up because the edge of the display is detecting touch. But it's really rare so don't worry about it.
Always on Display? Is it really that awesome and worth switching to S7? Well.. Nope. It is a nice thing that barely discharges like 1% of the battery and it makes Your phone look a bit cooler. But it's not something that I would switch my phone for.
Working edge features? Well. Here it actually gets quite more interesting. Some of those features are ACTUALLY useful, like night clock. Or edge feeds.
Fingerprint sensor/scanner. Definitely improved. It even seems a bit bigger but that might be just a illusion, other than that it recognises my finger with just one fingerprint registered (instead of like 3-4 on s6 that I used to have just so it would actually always work).
Speaker? Well. Quality and the volume is pretty identical in other words REALLY GREAT! .
SDCard slot is definitely a feature that is useful. You can insert a 128GB sd card and stop worrying about the running out space. Or keep custom roms on SD card without taking the phones space. Or anything You want. Or.. if Your phones USB stops working, You can put new rom on Your sd card and flash it this way!
Waterproofness!
Finally something really useful! And cool. I like to bath with my phone just so I can chill and listen to some music or watch a movie (i'm a bathtub lover.. lol) or text some people in the meantime. And finally! I don't need to worry about dropping my phone into water! Even though nowadays most phones are quite resistant to water damage. They still aren't fully waterproof. So IP68 is definitely a great feature!
If You have any questions ask me! I'll be happy to answer. And also I know I was mad at Samsung cause my phone was failing etc and I considered getting G5 cause it has a really awesome wide angle camera but when I realised that it has a tiny amount of features, not so pretty display, no custom roms, etc. I decided to get S7 Edge. And so far I LOVE IT!
I'm not good in writing article like topics so sorry guys!
Then it is not worth the change for a little more battery.s6 forever
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Then it is not worth the change for a little more battery.s6 forever
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Well. After my s6 was dead I had to get a new phone so yeah. But if Your S6 works well then You can safely wait a year or two and wait for a new model.
not worth the upgrade for me. wait for Galaxy S8 and see what it has or Note 7.
not worth for me too.
Indeed the edge s7 looks good but i cannot stand the loose volume buttons and power buttons...they are not built well on the edge versions...they move up and down like crazy and make it feel a cheap phone. on the flat version it s not like that..that s why i switched from an s6 edge to an s6 flat
waterproof, sd card, bigger battery but still...i have an s6edge and getting an s7edge would be a sidegrade, not worth it.
i hope the s8 bring something cool otherwise i wont be upgrading either.
It's not worth it. I mean yeah , it's waterproof , it has an sd card slot but still. I don't think it's worth it.
HI guys.
Just wanted to share some of my frustrations with this device. Please note that I am compering it to my old galaxy s8 and it is only a matter of personal opinion. Please let me know if you experienced any of these issues.
1. Strange auto brightness incidents. When I open the phone or move to different apps (such as camera, google photos gallery or chrome) the brightness changes. I was really surprised since I don't have an option for auto brightness.
2. AT&T reception issues. Calls are connected really slow and I get spotty coverage (in Chicago). It is worse then the galaxy s8.
3. Boom sound is not booming at all. The galaxy s8 has a very similar volume but looks like they tweaked it for higher highs so it sounds crisper. The upper speaker on the U11 is really not necessary and effects the overall quality of the sound . If I have a stereo speaker, why one side have to be worse?
4. I cannot do it without the headphone jack. I tried to walk around with the converter and I agree it gives amazing sound but I just can't do it.
5. Cumbersome system menus that are different from the stock android we all got to love. Its so hard to find the NFC and there is no shortcut for it.
6. call speaker clarity= its not clear.
7. The squeezing does not work for me. I set it up for medium strength (which was hard since its its not calibrated for medium power) and the phone kept on turning my camera in my pocket. So dies that mean I cannot wear skinny jeans anymore?
8. Tap to wake is not consistent, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
9. Also I noticed a strange behavior with the home button (I don't use fingerprint): sometimes I can tap it to wake the phone, sometimes I need to tap it twice and sometimes I cannot unlock the phone by tapping on it. When the phone is awake the home button works perfectly.
10. Bluetooth connectivity lost at random times in my car.
11. I got a strange "do not disturb" toggle (on and off) when I make a call.
12. The camera is not noticeably better the the galaxy s8. The shutter speed is the same, the light exposure is the same. Not sure it is worth the upgrade. In addition the edge sense works really bad here since squeezing the sides of the phone to take a pic creates a tremor because of the awkward way you need to hold the phone up.
Selfie camera is sub par.
13. The galaxy s8 has a better sun visibility since its brightness can be cranked up even higher. I tested it side by side. WTF HTC, you have an lcd panel.
14. The size.... OMG the size. I know that HTC made a great looking phone but one you go infinity edge, impossible to go back.
15. Red glow. Comparing the galaxy to the U, it is notably reddish, even after making the screen "cooler" in the options it is still red looking to me.
16. HTC phone migrate tool is not working on the Galaxy and it crashes (not a big deal but its annoying).
17. Earphones drain battery (wtf?!?).
18. HTC horrible call center.
19. Muffled car Bluetooth sound quality . More then one call sounds fed horrible comparing g to the s8.
***PHONE RETURNED ***
Overall I prefer the S8 but was chucking you call it "old": still fairly new IMHO! ?
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Ok............
Old s8? The thing didn't drop a dollar yet
As for the rest this is typical feedback for anyone coming from s8, just like few reviews, some of comments hold true like s8 sun brightness due to over drive (I dare to use it like that extensively)
But other like the boom and audio is completely non sense
Remaining few bugs here and there which are being addressed in the imminent update
Speed, response and fluidity however completely slaughters your s8
As for camera, unless you zoom and crop you will not appreciate this mobile camera bomb
Red glow as opposed to pink tint on the s8? Extended display color options are coming in the imminent update
Size and ergonomics I fully agree there, however some tips which has massively improved my experience, Nova launcher for swipe up and didn't action, simple controls to add quick access to have buttons, I now rarely touch the back button, a slim or the inbox case is recommended to save ergonomics, or naked if you have the heart for it...naked it this is the most comfortable phablet you can find, let's remember that its a phablet after all, same size as pixel XL, ah yes let's remember kids the s8 is not really bigger screen than this phablet not even close
Peace, go back to your tiny s8 :laugh:
The boom sound is not that great. The Galaxy sound as crisp. Plus the two mods it provides is another headache. Theater mode is muffled and music mode is just not good.
BTW . The Galaxy S8 is my wife's , I will get the plus .
Yes, the Galaxy S8 has a smaller screen only if you watch videos all day
The sound quality is exactly the same! And the camera is not a lot greater. BTW, I can notice the different approaches this manufacturers took .
On zoom the u11 is sharper but pixelated . The Galaxy is less sharp but smoother .
3.5 Jack and and a higher screen ratio would have make this phone perfect . Too bed it's far from it.
I bought this phone becuase it wasn't an S8
As someone who has owned a number of devices I wanted some things that people call "old" such as the home button back. I could get by without it on my Z3 compact but there were apps that blew up so bad I had no choice than to restart the phone because the software home button wouldn't show up, but after holding down the power button the restart option would show up and respond.
I have seen the S8 and as someone that owned the S2-4 I really didn't like it. The S5 is the last Samsung phone that I really liked. Though I went with the Z3 compact because it was smaller and cheaper.
I agree that the lack of a headphone jack is disappointing but on nearly every other point listed I disagree. My screen has nearly zero tint to it, my Z3 compact and Samsung's had strong blue tints to them. My Moto phone had a greenish tint to it.
The speed of the S8 is frankly so shameful it isn't even funny. I bought the Galaxy S phones back when they had speed. Now with all of the junk useless crap on the S8 it seems like a $300 phone not 700-800.
Also any phone that isn't 16:9 needs to be thrown into the trash. Don't like it or care for it and want the trend to drop dead ASAP. Though if we could get a flagship device with a removable battery I guess then I would suck it up and deal with an odd ball screen.
This phone's reception on AT&T is really good as the voice quality couldn't get much better to me.
I almost bought a Sony XZ premium, but wanted to try a HTC phone and save some money so here I am. Overall the Sony XZ premium is likely the best flagship device out now but I wanted to pay a bit less and get the home button back so that's why HTC got my money this time.
I didn't think the phone was that great either, but most of your points are bull****.
1. You can turn auto brightness off
2. These reception issues probably has nothing to do with HTC, it is completely compatible with AT&T
3. boom sound is still better than most phones lol
4. if you can't do without the headphone jack, why did you buy this phone in the first place?
5. i'll give you that one
7. lol
The rest are pretty unfortunate for you to have, I kinda agree with you on 15 though. The screen was warmer compared to my other phones
1. My phone doesn't do that. It only changes brightness in camera or when there more light hitting the sensor
3. Boomsound is kind of weird. Doesn't work too well in landscape since it's unbalanced. Treble can be boosted a bit of you install Viper4Android. I don't think the snapdragon S8 has root to install sound mods.
4. I use Bluetooth, so this isn't a problem for me.
5. Isn't this exactly like stock Android? It's under more where it's always been. You can also search it.
7. I have the issue where edge sense didn't always activate when I squeezed the phone.
8. Don't know about this one, always use fingerprint.
10. Bluetooth connection to car is broken for me too. I think it's due to bugs in 7.1.1
11. That's weird
12. only squeeze with one hand, easier to take pic.
13. Wish it could do iPhone levels too but not dissatisfied
What i really love about this phone is how smooth it is. Night and day coming from my S7 edge. Using Google maps, browsing while downloading anything, experience is so much better.
+ We have an unlocked bootloader and can root
i have the s8 right here on my table didnt turn it on for two weeeks, the whole S8 sounds just as good argument is just absurd, its terrible, super low volume and dont make me start on the joke that is audio recording and voice messages, even when using the speakerphone i have to raise the phone to my ear
you would have won a decent objective argument if it wasnt for that absurd audio comment
s8 audio is good only in certain tones, ideal for certain ringtones that is i guess this is what you call crisp, you want to see how bad the audio is on your s8? just revert back to the stock song ringtone....just laughable
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The speed of the S8 is frankly so shameful it isn't even funny. I bought the Galaxy S phones back when they had speed. Now with all of the junk useless crap on the S8 it seems like a $300 phone not 700-800.
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this! why people walk passed this as if its not important, the S8 speed is hilarious, in gaming its a mid range and its even much slower and hotter in the worldwide exynos version
you want to pay 800$ for a phone operating like an iPhone 5 in terms of speed, fluidity and response be my guest, just leave us out of it
Galaxy S8 lovers (lets admit we all love it) it should be in your favor to bash Samsung for the incredible bad performance and lying reviews in order for them to fix this in the future and HTC deserves to awarded for doing this beast of a phone
Samsung Note 4 user here. Can't defend the S8 or Samsung of late since they bent the screen and locked all snapdragon bootloaders and blamed it on Google and Qualcomm. Fragile hot mess there! No thanks.
I'm remotely considering this phone but keeping options open.
I'm inclined to agree that updates may smooth some OP complaints but the first thing I would try is take phone out of battery saver mode and give performance a good try. That may be causing the inconsistency with brightness, cell signal and edge squeeze?
There are other battery saving methods to try. I never trust factory battery saving modes. That especially applies to Samsung. Please stop trying to optimize my phone; you're inducing lag and really need to learn how to manage RAM, Samsung. Try again just doesn't seem to be working for you.
Ultimately, Android and third party apps may do a better job. But HTC Boost+ is an app I use on my Note 4. LOL; I know that's an HTC app with ad sponsorship. Maybe HTC users get a free ride regarding the ads?
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Boomsound is crap? And your S8 sounds better? Really?
And from when did Samsung phones had stock android experience?
This writing of yours is more suitable in the S8 section. It would make many happy though it mostly doesn't make sense.
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Boomsound is crap? S8 sounds the same ?
Holy ****balls he just went full retard.
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I guess he never had a U11 in his hands, because (almost) every point is just nonsense.
And some people are so much addicted to Samsung that they just can't see the advantages in other devices.
I myself am addicted to HTC: Legend, Desire, One S, M7, M8, 10, U11.
There is one Samsung device i had a longer time and that was the Galaxy S2. Later i tried the S6 and S7, but both phones were greatly disappointing my expectations. All the UI and ROM just didn't feel like a flagship. Slow and unstable. I even experienced reboots with S7 when opening MAPS. Sound crappy, internal AND external. And so on. Only good thing was the camera and Amoled.
So if you really think your Samsung is better, then go with it and try to be happy.
HTC's systems menu is very close to stock. Samsung has the a** backwards system menu. Get out of here you skinny jean wearing troll.
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HI guys.
Just wanted to share some of my frustrations with this device. Please note that I am compering it to my old galaxy s8 and it is only a matter of personal opinion. Please let me know if you experienced any of these issues.
14. The size.... OMG the size. I know that HTC made a great looking phone but one you go infinity edge, impossible to go back.
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that sounded wrong...
you love that big black samsung phone dont you l:laugh:
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that sounded wrong...
you love that big black samsung phone dont you l:laugh:
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No I don't . But I don't have anything else.
If the U11 had a 3.5 jack I would have kept it. Yesterday I wanted to play music at my friends back yard, so he handed me a 3.5 mm cable; you should have seen his face when he realized I have no way of connecting it (he is an owner of an iphone 5s).
On the other hand if the galaxy 8 had no "edges" and has a normal resolution it will be the perfect phone right now.
Maybe the note 8 could be a better choice for me or the Oneplus 5. Money is not an issue, I am willing to spend 600-850 on a new phone but it has to be used properly and not just look great.
Besides, the U11 has a serious issue with lighting.
Samsung fans try so hard to hate HTC, they would be very disappointed if they couldn't find anything wrong. It's so bad that I have even been seeing Sammy fans buying this device, (or pretending to) just so they can show proof why this phone sucks Lol. Then they threaten to return it :laugh: It is killing them that this great phone just might be better than their Holy Samsung :crying: LMAO!
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No I don't . But I don't have anything else.
If the U11 had a 3.5 jack I would have kept it. Yesterday I wanted to play music at my friends back yard, so he handed me a 3.5 mm cable; you should have seen his face when he realized I have no way of connecting it (he is an owner of an iphone 5s).
On the other hand if the galaxy 8 had no "edges" and has a normal resolution it will be the perfect phone right now.
Maybe the note 8 could be a better choice for me or the Oneplus 5. Money is not an issue, I am willing to spend 600-850 on a new phone but it has to be used properly and not just look great.
Besides, the U11 has a serious issue with lighting.
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If you want a 3.5 headphone jack then get the Sony XZ premium because you can pick one up for under $800 USD though clove UK. It's better than the S8 in every way other than maybe the camera.
@borisb and why did you ignore the included 3.5 adapter?
anyway i dont see a point of a thread like "why i am returning" these threads are always controversial
besides no one asked you :laugh:
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If you want a 3.5 headphone jack then get the Sony XZ premium because you can pick one up for under $800 USD though clove UK. It's better than the S8 in every way other than maybe the camera.
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but but but the bezel, i would sell my soul for that bezel :laugh:
@borisb serious issues with lighting: simply switch to touch auto exposure from the camera settings but hey you are not here for solutions
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But, he....then you...ugh....dag....
All I can say is...apply liberally.
Dear all ,
Good morning.
I have been considering selling my aging iPhone 6s Plus and moving to android.
Mainly because of stale design(same as 3-4 years ago) and horrible/laggy/battery draining updates.
So about taking a dive back to android.
Before i got my 6s plus i had s7 edge. While i did like the phone overall , i had one major deal breaker for me. Heat.
I do not like a heating phone. I would use s7 edge for 20 minutes surfing the web via wifi and it reached 32-34 degrees (ambient temp 26). iphone would stay cool even if i browsed for hours.
So, my question to you guys, since you already posses the device, is : does the s8 plus behave thermaly the same as s7 edge ~~~clarification : In my area only the exynos variant is available.?
I cannot compare it to an s7 edge because I did not ever owned one but I can say no, absolutely not. I came from iphone 7 plus to the (normal) s8 and dont ever had the feeling that my device gets an uncomfortable temperature. During basic tasks like browsing, downloading and testing apps, whatsapp&facebook and so on it is "cold" - at least for me. Even when playing light games like clash royale (only game I play now and then) it doesnt come to an uncomfortable temperature, maybe 3-4°C warmer. The only situation the s8 gets really warm (and by warm I dont mean hot) is when charging through usb or qi, but I think this is physically unavoidable.
Personally, I don't have an S8, but I used one for a couple of hours and it gets pretty warm.
Thank you guys!
Just a clarification : In my area only the exynos variant is available.
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Thank you guys!
Just a clarification : In my area only the exynos variant is available.
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yes, here in my area (Austria) is also only exynos available
My S8 definitely heats up more with pokemon go compared to my iPhone 7.
By the way, if you think an S8 will get you out of lags and battery drains, read the threads in this forum from other users complaining the exact issues.
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My S8 definitely heats up more with pokemon go compared to my iPhone 7.
By the way, if you think an S8 will get you out of lags and battery drains, read the threads in this forum from other users complaining the exact issues.
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the s8 has also nearly four times the pixels to push than the iphone 7
and my s8 doesnt lag at all after 7 month and I have a custom rom on it, which I have heavily skinned and customized
s8 gets hot only when you fast charge it. Other than that its pretty cool.
Thank you guys! Awaiting more of your experiences in orderr to make an educated purchase!
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Only while gaming and charging. Regular surfing, media playback or socializing has no impact cool as a breeze.
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get an iPhone X Plus if you're used to iPhones
MicI wouldn't recommend S8 or S8+, maybe Note 8, but I think you'll be happier with an iPhone X Plus if you're used to iPhones. Personally, I don't care for iOS at all. Android is way better than iOS, but I really think you'll like iPhone X Plus.
Note: Your experience with an Exynos S8/S8+/Note 8 might be better than mine with S8+ Snapdragon, because it really isn't convenient to have a locked bootloader and a rooted phone that only charges to 80%!
No lag so far on my phone, I came from the S6 and that used to heat up a lot (so much so I could use it as a hand warmer on cold days, and some times I could not hold it to my face on calls).
My S8 has stayed cool, it has only gotten warm once or twice, and that wasn't very much. I regularly surf, use social media, play Vainglory and Mobile Strike. I also stream to my TV every now and then and it's been good.
I have the regular S8 on Oreo Beta 2.
Thank you,
So far it seems that s8plus does not have the same thermal attitude that exynos s7edge had.
I am tempted to make the move soon.
I've had my S8 for 3 odd months now, but I'm not a gamer, I've never had it heat up, I had teh G6 and iPhone 7 prior to this but hated the image quality of the iPhone, just a mushy mess when looking closer, the S8 is in another league IQ wise. iPhones are beautifully built but the S8 is equal to it these days. I'm very happy, I rooted my S8 only this week and am loving it, 60 odd hours between charges, 6 hours SoT (actually want much less before rooting) nothing more I could ask for. Superb device.
I also love my s8 and I also dont think I will upgrade to s9 when its released.
it has a small form factor (compared to other devices with that screen size), a gorgeous display, wireless charging, stereo speakers (with mod), is fast and snappy, has one of the best cameras, is water resistant,...
This phone has all I want and need
everything except the stock android ui experience. if this would happen one day, I think samsung phones would win another like 20-30% of "potential customers that are yet afraid of moving to touchwiz. I themed it as best as possible to stock pixel ui and I can live with it. Maybe samsung is making the move slowly over the years to go away from their playful icons and settings ui and closer to stock like sony or motorola/lenovo did.
Imagine the s8 with stock android - noone would buy pixel 2
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I also love my s8 and I also dont think I will upgrade to s9 when its released.
it has a small form factor (compared to other devices with that screen size), a gorgeous display, wireless charging, stereo speakers (with mod), is fast and snappy, has one of the best cameras, is water resistant,...
This phone has all I want and need
everything except the stock android ui experience. if this would happen one day, I think samsung phones would win another like 20-30% of "potential customers that are yet afraid of moving to touchwiz. I themed it as best as possible to stock pixel ui and I can live with it. Maybe samsung is making the move slowly over the years to go away from their playful icons and settings ui and closer to stock like sony or motorola/lenovo did.
Imagine the s8 with stock android - noone would buy pixel 2
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I agree, if it was stock and updated with the latest OS like the Pixel 2 (it will get more OS updates than through Samsung), then the Pixel 2 would have very few sales.
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I agree, if it was stock and updated with the latest OS like the Pixel 2 (it will get more OS updates than through Samsung), then the Pixel 2 would have very few sales.
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argh..i know.. i was set on pixel 2 XL but the million screen issues put me off..
Some more love here?
Just buy the damm phone ( S8 plus )....
You will not regret it .
Àwesome in every bloody way.
Coming from iphone 7