Incident of Motorola Service Centre over charging - Moto G General

Hi
I would like to share an incident that happened to my friend a week ago. He's fairly new to understanding the android ecosystem and hence soft bricked his phone by flashing the wrong kernel. So he didn't knew that all he needed to do was a simple firmware restore and hence he went to the service centre in New Delhi. Skipping all the unnecessary details what happened was that the guy at the service centre charged him Rs 500 just to flash the stock firmware.. Now he didn't know about flashing the firmware and all that and so he paid Rs 500 because for him it was like lose the phone worth 14000 or just pay 500.
The sad thing is that there are a lot of people who don't know about android development and troubleshooting techniques and these service centres trick hundreds of people every day into paying them a lot of money for the simpleat of things.
What we all can do is educate our family and friends about basic troubleshooting and encourage them to research online or consult someone before heading to service centres

Good idea
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Or tell them to leave there phones alone...
There's a reason for devices having locked bootloaders.
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its just business
Happen in my country too, from the era of j2me phone until now.
I know this model business when i first flash my w550i by myself.

Teach them not to mess around their phone
You see rooting has charms and it has downfalls to. If you don't know anything about what root and how it can ruin your phone. You should not mess around with your phone. Well most of people there didn't know the fact what disaster root can bring to them. Easily hack-able. I see lot of newbies mess around with their phones after looking the glittering stuff over internet. Well its not that safe to root and just take it to service center in those cases. You jeopardize your device security after rooting. Now you took the device after rooting to the service center. Well for the first reason while looking at the bootloader then person who flashed may have known that you already unlocked your device. The moment you get the unlock code from motorola the moment your warranty run to ashes... So as one recorganised contributor said above don't mess around with your phone too much when you don;t know what disaster root could bring. its better to remain on stock when you don't know is going on.

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[Q] Selling Evo...should I unroot?

I've an HTC Evo that's been rooted using unrevoked3 and flashed with Cyanogenmod 6.1.2. I'm planning on selling the phone but am curious what the general opinion is regarding doing so with a custom rom installed? Should I unroot and get back to factory default before selling or simply sell it as is?
i dont know...
but if I was John Doe... and wanted root, but was always scared to. I think it would be a Plus for a lot that it has ROOT and ROMed for better performance and battery life.
You should put in your ad...will put back to stock if you want.
put all the files for rooting, unrooting, ROMs, and mods that you have for the evo.. in to the sdcard...under 1 directory. do quick write up on how to instructions for all. links to the web instructions.
but if I was John Doe... and wanted root, but was always scared to. I think it would be a Plus for a lot that it has ROOT and ROMed for better performance and battery life.
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And I could also see people that are worried about it, and just want a stock phone in case they have problems and need to go back to the sprint store.
I would tell people in the ad, that the phone can either come rooted or stock, that way to appeal to both groups of people.
Maybe you should ask the buyer if he or she wants the phone rooted or not
Thank you all for your quick responses. I believe my question has been answered. I think the proper thing to do would be to unroot and reset to factory defaults for warranty purposes and provide the option of rooting should the buyer desire to receive the phone in a rooted state.
I say rooted phones have more value, some people dont wanna go through the process themselves, but like the person above me said, you should ask. You also might get some people asking whats root....which is weird and funny from our perspective, but theres normal people out there that want evo's dont forget
Give the buyer options, but since it is already rooted leave it that way until the buyer decides. why go through unrooting it until you know how the buyer wants it.
Unroot it is the best option, you might like CM but the buyer probably won't. I've seen so many posts of people having problems going back to stock and getting boot looped or stuck on boot screen. If you sell them a rooted phone then they won't be able to go back to Sprint for help and they will be screwed. Which means they will give you negative feedback or force a refund from paypal because you sold them a broken phone. Trust me, in the long run they want a stock phone and let them take the risk of rooting or you will have a lot of headaches.
Be honest with the customer. Sell what you have done to the phone as high points. I sold my old hero for $50 more than the going rate on CL because I created value in the eyes of the consumer through marketing. I also solicited my services should they have an issue software wise with the phone or if they ever had to take it into sprint for repair.
Indicate in the ad that the phone gets much better battery life because of customizations, cpu tweaks, etc as compared to stock. However do offer the option of bringing it to a fully stock state if the buyer chooses. The point about bringing it back to sprint is not withstanding. Anyone with half a clue realizes buying through such channels is on as is basis.
The words "as is" shoots into my mind

question about bootloaders

hey everyone. i dont come here much but this is kind of a general question. about how many encrypted and or locked bootloaders have been cracked and unlocked in the past? i guess im asking what are the chances that us a500 users will see recovery and roms? i know its up to whoever will figure it out in the end. but im just asking based on past devices. can it be done? has it been done before?
also as a side note. this is just my opinion. i can understand locking the bootloader on a phone so people dont abuse there unlimited data and such. but on a wifi only tablet? its like buying a laptop with a bios password set by the manufacture and the admin account locked out. it just doesn't make any sense to me. they should not be allowed to do this. thoughts?
(please dont take this as a rant. ive been driving myself crazy the past few days and watching the dev forum 24/7)
I don't know how likely it is to happen, but I agree with you it's a ****ty thing to do. It'd be fair in my eyes if we have to register the device, put in our serial number, then request an unlock code that invalidates the warranty to unlock the bootloader. That seems reasonable to me, but just straight up locking me out of my device is ****.
I'm hoping this isn't a trend we're going to have to start accepting. I'd rather the openness of the PC slip into tablets and phones, not the other way around.
Well hopefully that doesn't limit us. They (the community) were able to get around the droid x/2 bootloader to install custom roms, at least in some form. I am hoping this device catches on amongst enthusiasts, together, and by that I mean everyone but me, can work hard on modding this tab...jk.
Thanks for the feedback I'm really glad to know I'm not the only one who feels this way
Unfortunately the same reason Apple products are so successful is that people are very "accepting" , The manufacturers dont count on people hacking there products , its a relatively small amount of people who (even) root Android phones , sure they get the press , but how many "moms and pops" own an Android phone unrooted? The majority of owners dont mess with it , they just buy apps and do what the company tells them!
Look how many people in here whine about updates , obviously if they were rooting there phones the updates wouldnt be a big deal!

ZTE Blade X Max Z983 Request

Hi, all!
I bought the Blade X Max from Cricket, as it's got 32GB internal storage, a bigger screen, and seems a very hip machine.
Since Cricket seems to have instructed the various vendors, LG, Alcatel, and now ZTE to not only just make it difficult to root, but near-impossible, at least for someone without extensive knowledge as an Android dev, it's an annoyance...
There are legit, non-bootleg apps for which I spent good money (Titanium, Apps2SD Pro, FlashFire and others), which require root... Unlocking codes tend to be expensive, and the sites that offer them seem more spam-generators than anything else, and the Dr.Fone Root tool doesn't seem to even know the device exists, and, it's as yet not on their supported list, that I can see.
The device was released a month ago, so I'm not expecting immediate miracles, but wondering if anyone else owns the device, and if anyone with the dev chops would be interested in exploring the possibility.
Thanks for reading, and have a great day!
I own the ZTE Blade X Max as well, I havent tried root or anything else yet, I was a little surprised though when searching through XDA and this thread was all I found in relation to the ZTE Blade X Max.
XperianceIT said:
I own the ZTE Blade X Max as well, I havent tried root or anything else yet, I was a little surprised though when searching through XDA and this thread was all I found in relation to the ZTE Blade X Max.
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Well, since the device has only been around a few months, it's understandable that not a lot of the devs have access to one, but, yeah... All over the web, it's referred to as a carrier-branded phone, and people seem to not want to fiddle with it...
I don't need a custom ROM, but there are legit apps that I bought from the Play Store, and they require root...
I blame Cricket for being paranoid that someone would dare to customize her/his phone and tweak it... Times past, Cricket made it difficult to root a phone, but the LG G-Stylo was pretty much unrootable... I have a few paperweights of that model in my storage... The Idol 3 was able to be rooted, the 6055U Idol 4, not so much... and now this one... It seems that Cricket is trying to have the various manufacturers leave some things out of their flavors of Android, so that even someone who reasonably is willing to take the risk is sh!t out of luck... <sigh>
Yeah Cricket has been making it real hard to root any of their phones. I also have the Stylo 2, and they had lg remove the entire bootloader and stock recovery, how the hell that was possible is beyond me. Get used to this trend in Android, it's not just Cricket, allot of flagships are doing what they can to get rid of the ability to root, cause if we root we have control not them, and the manufacturers are making way to much in terms of ad revenue to allow us to have total control. My Blade X Max will sometimes randomly download apps and games without my permission, that's how they ( manufacturers ) make the money they do, we are basically walking billboards for them. So unless enough people get together and complain about the blatent abuse of the GPL Linux has laid out, it will never change, open source my ass, try getting the real source code for this phone, won't happen. I downloaded the source for the max x 2 and dug into the files, wasn't even the full code, and had junk files from dead devices. The Android world is not what it's supposed to be, get used to it.
zMILWAUKEE said:
Yeah Cricket has been making it real hard to root any of their phones. I also have the Stylo 2, and they had lg remove the entire bootloader and stock recovery, how the hell that was possible is beyond me. Get used to this trend in Android, it's not just Cricket, allot of flagships are doing what they can to get rid of the ability to root, cause if we root we have control not them, and the manufacturers are making way to much in terms of ad revenue to allow us to have total control. My Blade X Max will sometimes randomly download apps and games without my permission, that's how they ( manufacturers ) make the money they do, we are basically walking billboards for them. So unless enough people get together and complain about the blatent abuse of the GPL Linux has laid out, it will never change, open source my ass, try getting the real source code for this phone, won't happen. I downloaded the source for the max x 2 and dug into the files, wasn't even the full code, and had junk files from dead devices. The Android world is not what it's supposed to be, get used to it.
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Indeed...
Next time around, going to buy a pre-unlocked device (hell, even our local Walmart Super-aircraft hangar sells 'em), and just have the device ported over... if the vendor (Cricket, Metro, whomever) won't do it, they don't need my business... I'm a write-off from years back with Verizon, and, although my credit rating is much better these days, I worked for a Sprint call-center, and they sucketh verily and forsooth, and I don't know much about AT&T proper, or many other vendors...
But there are some vendors that are generally pretty hip, if a bit expensive, and I'm looking into seeing if, even if this is a vendor-branded device, there's a way, or just a straight-up trade for a device I can work with... Cricket's Android Nougat flavor is buggy as hell, and this is just kinda silly.
<sigh>
What the hell...
"Oh, Brave new world that hath such people in it.."
Wow are you serious? No root method? I'm going to have to sell this phone? WTF I just liked it.
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justlovejoy said:
Wow are you serious? No root method? I'm going to have to sell this phone? WTF I just liked it.
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Well, apparently the bootloader's crippled, as Cricket seems to have insisted things be removed from ZTE's source code...
But, I'm wondering (though I might just be talking out my butt), if the code module could be extracted from ZMax Pro, as that's apparently its non-Cricket branded twin...
My coding chops are limited to old XBASE and a bit of Delphi/FPC, so I'm not the guy to do it, but am I in the ballpark with my idea?
Never really messed with the bootloader. I've always been developing from code tho. Haven't tinkled too much in about a year but need a laptop power cord before I can try anything. Bootloader isn't always a root blocker. It's more of a custom rom blocker if memory hasn't been affected by times changing
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justlovejoy said:
Never really messed with the bootloader. I've always been developing from code tho. Haven't tinkled too much in about a year but need a laptop power cord before I can try anything. Bootloader isn't always a root blocker. It's more of a custom rom blocker if memory hasn't been affected by times changing
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Well, again, my chops are decades old, and tend to involve xBASE and Delphi coding, and I know very little about C/C++ and Java, and plead ignorance of what Cricket has insisted on having crippled in the source, and I lean on the expertise of devs here and elsewhere for that reason...
Just that it's one helluva device, or would be if it could be at least rooted.... I just don't know how... :laugh:
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Well, again, my chops are decades old, and tend to involve xBASE and Delphi coding, and I know very little about C/C++ and Java, and plead ignorance of what Cricket has insisted on having crippled in the source, and I lean on the expertise of devs here and elsewhere for that reason...
Just that it's one helluva device, or would be if it could be at least rooted.... I just don't know how... [emoji23]
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Facts!
That's what the kids say today, lol. It's a beauty. Had to get mine swapped out for another due to the fingerprint reader and camera being intermittent between reboots. Not much I can say wrong about this device. Waiting on the key to the mailbox for my laptop charger still. Can't promise anything yet but I'm hopeful that our resources will get us started, even if it's just a long list of what doesn't work. Lmfao
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Is there anything we can do to this phone? Any thing
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Yes I have z982 and would like a forums section
Bootloader and recovery
zMILWAUKEE said:
Yeah Cricket has been making it real hard to root any of their phones. I also have the Stylo 2, and they had lg remove the entire bootloader and stock recovery, how the hell that was possible is beyond me. Get used to this trend in Android, it's not just Cricket, allot of flagships are doing what they can to get rid of the ability to root, cause if we root we have control not them, and the manufacturers are making way to much in terms of ad revenue to allow us to have total control. My Blade X Max will sometimes randomly download apps and games without my permission, that's how they ( manufacturers ) make the money they do, we are basically walking billboards for them. So unless enough people get together and complain about the blatent abuse of the GPL Linux has laid out, it will never change, open source my ass, try getting the real source code for this phone, won't happen. I downloaded the source for the max x 2 and dug into the files, wasn't even the full code, and had junk files from dead devices. The Android world is not what it's supposed to be, get used to it.
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First off they can't remove the bootloader as android WON'T boot without it, and recovery is needed for factory resets. Cricket has never been helpful about supporting their phones, but of you do a search you can find out how to get into the recovery. (And it's the ZTE Blade ZMax, not X Max, X Max is just crickets version of the Blade ZMax)
To get into recovery you can go to this link for instructions
http://www.hardreset.info/devices/zte/zte-blade-x-max-z983/recovery-mode/
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First off they can't remove the bootloader as android WON'T boot without it, and recovery is needed for factory resets. Cricket has never been helpful about supporting their phones, but of you do a search you can find out how to get into the recovery. (And it's the ZTE Blade ZMax, not X Max, X Max is just crickets version of the Blade ZMax)
To get into recovery you can go to this link for instructions
http://www.hardreset.info/devices/zte/zte-blade-x-max-z983/recovery-mode/
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Have always been able to get into the stock recovery, and the download mode... those are not the issues, friend....
Whatever Cricket specified be done to their stock ROM by ZTE, we're blocked from doing those things that would enable us to actually use legit apps that we paid real money for.
I don't care about any sort of custom ROM, as these days, I really don't have the time to **** with it... But I've been an Android user for years... I've no problem rooting a device, given a workable method, and at least nutshell instructions, and doing a few things, as a user... As long as there is a way to get back to Square 1, should I screw up, I'm not afraid to explore, and, again, I believe in supporting good developers... If an app does what I want it to, I buy it, as long as it doesn't break the bank... in that case, I uninstall and find something better or cheaper...
But Cricket, in their either paranoia, or control freak attitude has been progressively making their devices less and less possible to do what we bought them for, unless we happen to be Cricket employees, sworn to secrecy regarding those codes beneath and behind the *# ones that really don't do much, at least not the ones we need to use, such as the menu option for "unlock" which doesn't without other input...
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Have always been able to get into the stock recovery, and the download mode... those are not the issues, friend....
Whatever Cricket specified be done to their stock ROM by ZTE, we're blocked from doing those things that would enable us to actually use legit apps that we paid real money for.
I don't care about any sort of custom ROM, as these days, I really don't have the time to **** with it... But I've been an Android user for years... I've no problem rooting a device, given a workable method, and at least nutshell instructions, and doing a few things, as a user... As long as there is a way to get back to Square 1, should I screw up, I'm not afraid to explore, and, again, I believe in supporting good developers... If an app does what I want it to, I buy it, as long as it doesn't break the bank... in that case, I uninstall and find something better or cheaper...
But Cricket, in their either paranoia, or control freak attitude has been progressively making their devices less and less possible to do what we bought them for, unless we happen to be Cricket employees, sworn to secrecy regarding those codes beneath and behind the *# ones that really don't do much, at least not the ones we need to use, such as the menu option for "unlock" which doesn't without other input...
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... and just to say that I know that "unlock" and "root" are two different things... was just an example.
pauljulian said:
Have always been able to get into the stock recovery, and the download mode... those are not the issues, friend....
Whatever Cricket specified be done to their stock ROM by ZTE, we're blocked from doing those things that would enable us to actually use legit apps that we paid real money for.
I don't care about any sort of custom ROM, as these days, I really don't have the time to **** with it... But I've been an Android user for years... I've no problem rooting a device, given a workable method, and at least nutshell instructions, and doing a few things, as a user... As long as there is a way to get back to Square 1, should I screw up, I'm not afraid to explore, and, again, I believe in supporting good developers... If an app does what I want it to, I buy it, as long as it doesn't break the bank... in that case, I uninstall and find something better or cheaper...
But Cricket, in their either paranoia, or control freak attitude has been progressively making their devices less and less possible to do what we bought them for, unless we happen to be Cricket employees, sworn to secrecy regarding those codes beneath and behind the *# ones that really don't do much without other input...
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I'm not sure how you would root that particular phone, but I'm sure there is a way, or will be once the phone is out there longer, being without root access is a pain in the a**
revjamescarver said:
I'm not sure how you would root that particular phone, but I'm sure there is a way, or will be once the phone is out there longer, being without root access is a pain in the a**
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When I originally started the thread, yep... I know the thing's not been out long... like since May (and I know crap all about the "Z" model used by other vendors... Obviously there's a drastic difference in the firmware, though...)...
Given time, I'm certain someone will work it out... There's a gentleman on another thread that seems to be working on it, and I'm going under the thing of "no news is good news" :laugh:
I've no doubt there's a way... I did a short stint at a call-center for Sprint, and there are always ways... It's a matter of having the right set of input codes, to get to the means to do the real deal...
I really dig the phone, although Cricket's flavor of Nougat isn't the most stable in the world... but, with the legal and legit apps I bought and continue to support, that's less of an issue.
It's frustrating when a company knows what a pain in the ass it is without allowing the user to administer it as really needs be... and they still refuse to permit it... I get that turning it into a paperweight can get tedious, but, given the means to get it back to factory standard in a reasonably simple way without sending it in, or buying another is just what I would see as normal... It's my own fault if I haven't backed up my data, but, if I somehow hose the firmware, just give me a means to get back to the start... It worked with their edition of the the Alcatel Idol 3... the Idol 4 (6055U)... I just gave the hell up.
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When I originally started the thread, yep... I know the thing's not been out long... like since May (and I know crap all about the "Z" model used by other vendors... Obviously there's a drastic difference in the firmware, though...)...
Given time, I'm certain someone will work it out... There's a gentleman on another thread that seems to be working on it, and I'm going under the thing of "no news is good news" :laugh:
I've no doubt there's a way... I did a short stint at a call-center for Sprint, and there are always ways... It's a matter of having the right set of input codes, to get to the means to do the real deal...
I really dig the phone, although Cricket's flavor of Nougat isn't the most stable in the world... but, with the legal and legit apps I bought and continue to support, that's less of an issue.
It's frustrating when a company knows what a pain in the ass it is without allowing the user to administer it as really needs be... and they still refuse to permit it... I get that turning it into a paperweight can get tedious, but, given the means to get it back to factory standard in a reasonably simple way without sending it in, or buying another is just what I would see as normal... It's my own fault if I haven't backed up my data, but, if I somehow hose the firmware, just give me a means to get back to the start... It worked with their edition of the the Alcatel Idol 3... the Idol 4 (6055U)... I just gave the hell up.
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I don't mean to freak out anyone that "Holy Cr*p! Someone's doing something"
.... But I'm just wondering if anyone's doing something.... ?
It's not going to happen my best advice to you is get another phone. I have the z982 the z981,982,983 all of them are unrootable ZTE had a bad hack a few years back that almost shut them down root was giving full access to those phones through apps. I hate this phone and can't wait to get a new one. Never again will I buy ZTE
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It's not going to happen my best advice to you is get another phone. I have the z982 the z981,982,983 all of them are unrootable ZTE had a bad hack a few years back that almost shut them down root was giving full access to those phones through apps. I hate this phone and can't wait to get a new one. Never again will I buy ZTE
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Well, for damned sure I'm sick of Cricket's control freak practice...
But it seems there are too many vendors that undercut legitimate developers whose products require root access...
I don't really need a custom ROM, but I bought Apps2SD Pro, Titanium and some others because I found them to be well-written, well-designed, and they did what I needed them for... But, since I can't root this otherwise pretty cool device, I've basically wasted my $$... I'll get another device at some time, preferably from a vendor that is less paranoid about users actually using their devices to their potential, but for right now?
This is one of the most stupid situations I've found myself... A device that is capable of being a laptop replacement, but the vendor only insists on our using them as they dictate...
So, is disgust an applicable word?
... mind you, not at those among us who were suckered into buying a hip but crippled device.
(although I've the idea that those who actually work for Cricket but are sworn to secrecy by potential lawsuits and loss of employment actually have an idea as to whatever *# commands actually go deep enough to do what's needed)
But I have no issues with those such as I that found a really hip little machine, yet have found ourselves locked away from its potential...
My issues are with the control-freak assholes that set the policies for the companies we pay entirely too much to remain in necessary communication.

S8 update messed up my sensors

Brought S8 from Middle East .. relocated to India, started using it. Was installing and following Samsung Updates quietly up until two days back.
On Jul 1st after the last update, all sensors stopped working bare the Finger Print and the Camera.
Failed sensors I found out so far ... Proximity, Ambient Light, Magnetic, Accelerometer, Barometer, Compass, IRIS
Phone turned into a basic phone having Finger Print sensor.
All this for no fault of mine.
As you guessed, No warranty in India ... Only option given was to "Change the Motherboard" costing nearly half the price of the phone.
Not going to do this, as I have no trust whether this would fail in the next update.
Has anyone got solution / suggestions ?
What I tried
- Factory Reset / Cache wiping
- Taking to the service center and it seems they have flashed the "Correttt version"
- My CSC shows INS/INS/XSG
MORAL :- A Samsung update messes up their Flagship model so much.
do you update it using odin? or OTA?
have u roll back to stock?
leo31 said:
do you update it using odin? or OTA?
have u roll back to stock?
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Updated using the OTA ... Did not roll it to stock as I was not so sure what to do.
Took it to service center and they say Motherboard (If there is such a thing) has been spoilt
did flash my phone with different pda and csc number which not belong to my country.
everything works fine here. just see couple apps that belong to mexican carrier.
i think the ota update that u did is still 'buggy' . roll back to stock, im sure it will fix all your problem.
leo31 said:
did flash my phone with different pda and csc number which not belong to my country.
everything works fine here. just see couple apps that belong to mexican carrier.
i think the ota update that u did is still 'buggy' . roll back to stock, im sure it will fix all your problem.
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Thank you and I really wish it does.
Question
1. How to find the pda and CSC thats suitable for my phone ?
2. I have Smart Switch , how do I roll back ?
3. I see people referring to some third party Sammobile etc. If I do that , will it void my warranty in any way ?
4. Once I flash to a different country, will I still get updates or after that I am on my own ?
Attached is my Phone Summary , I am not sure if I understood CSC PDA that well.. Presume its INS
Also attached is the Software Version
AjitBharat said:
Thank you and I really wish it does.
Question
1. How to find the pda and CSC thats suitable for my phone ?
2. I have Smart Switch , how do I roll back ?
3. I see people referring to some third party Sammobile etc. If I do that , will it void my warranty in any way ?
4. Once I flash to a different country, will I still get updates or after that I am on my own ?
Attached is my Phone Summary , I am not sure if I understood CSC PDA that well.. Presume its INS
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let me answer to help :
1. based on your attachment, the pda should be start with your 4 last digit of build number, so it is CRF7. u can use and flash all the rom published for SM-G950F with pda number ended with the same 4 digit like yours (in this case CRF7). it wont break your phone, since the rom is the published for the same type of phone (SM-G950F).
CRF7 is global firmware. the csc number will follow the pda number. just find one which suited best for your daily and dont forget to read the changelog and review from user from xda.
2. u need to root first
3. sammobile is just a website that release official firmware for samsung. i download 8.0 update from that site too. its safe. warranty? the rom is in stock condition, so it wont void your warranty.
4. if samsung says they will give update to their device. they will give the update. no matter which country you choose, update will be given. its just about timing, when will u get the update to your device.
hope my answers will help u brother
leo31 said:
let me answer to help :
1. based on your attachment, the pda should be start with your 4 last digit of build number, so it is CRF7. u can use and flash all the rom published for SM-G950F with pda number ended with the same 4 digit like yours (in this case CRF7). it wont break your phone, since the rom is the published for the same type of phone (SM-G950F).
CRF7 is global firmware. the csc number will follow the pda number. just find one which suited best for your daily and dont forget to read the changelog and review from user from xda.
2. u need to root first
3. sammobile is just a website that release official firmware for samsung. i download 8.0 update from that site too. its safe. warranty? the rom is in stock condition, so it wont void your warranty.
4. if samsung says they will give update to their device. they will give the update. no matter which country you choose, update will be given. its just about timing, when will u get the update to your device.
hope my answers will help u brother
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Clicked a Thanks for your help.
There are thousands who have been affected like this.
Some of them have actually tried downgrading to a previous version and that did not help either.
However shall take your advice and give it a shot in the near future.
Thank you once again. You guys help more than those Customer Care themselves
AjitBharat said:
Clicked a Thanks for your help.
There are thousands who have been affected like this.
Some of them have actually tried downgrading to a previous version and that did not help either.
However shall take your advice and give it a shot in the near future.
Thank you once again. You guys help more than those Customer Care themselves
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if that not helping you, bring your phone back to samsung service center, tell them what u did is just updating the system by ota, which released by samsung itself. tell them your phone still on warranty, dont give a **** to their up-coming answers because it will not help you to solve your problem.
shout at them, you want your phone to get fixed on the same day, tell them you are not the only one facing that problem. dont forget to make video recording when you visit samsung service center. if they still dont want to do anyhing, and tell you to pay for board replacement, ask him/her to show their manager, now u can f*ck*ng throw your phone in the manager's face.
samsung release the update , the update broke the system, user need to pay for getting fixed. what the **** samsung
.. contd ... FINAL UPDATE ..
Samsung wont repair my phone for the damage they caused.
Getting reports that many have got their devices repaired free of cost after repeatedly pestering the customer care. Another Technician revealed that this is a ploy to deter people from buying phones from outside ... PLUS .... enroll existing customers for their Extended warranty program.
Meanwhile :- I am sending this piece of **** ..... back to the Middle East for repairs.
Conclusion :- Samsung messed up their "flagship" phone with their own updates. This happened to me, can happen to anyone (even after warranty) So stay safe and be careful.
Now I stand corrected why ppl invest mere 25K+ on Chinese brands that almost give flagship like features
leo31 said:
if that not helping you, bring your phone back to samsung service center, tell them what u did is just updating the system by ota, which released by samsung itself. tell them your phone still on warranty, dont give a **** to their up-coming answers because it will not help you to solve your problem.
shout at them, you want your phone to get fixed on the same day, tell them you are not the only one facing that problem. dont forget to make video recording when you visit samsung service center. if they still dont want to do anyhing, and tell you to pay for board replacement, ask him/her to show their manager, now u can f*ck*ng throw your phone in the manager's face.
samsung release the update , the update broke the system, user need to pay for getting fixed. what the **** samsung
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You r right. A service center guy revealed that talk tough to the samsung customer care, pester them with phone calls and they might take responsibility.
AjitBharat said:
.. contd ... FINAL UPDATE ..
Samsung wont repair my phone for the damage they caused.
Getting reports that many have got their devices repaired free of cost after repeatedly pestering the customer care. Another Technician revealed that this is a ploy to deter people from buying phones from outside ... PLUS .... enroll existing customers for their Extended warranty program.
Meanwhile :- I am sending this piece of **** ..... back to the Middle East for repairs.
Conclusion :- Samsung messed up their "flagship" phone with their own updates. This happened to me, can happen to anyone (even after warranty) So stay safe and be careful.
Now I stand corrected why ppl invest mere 25K+ on Chinese brands that almost give flagship like features
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yesterday i broke my a3. removing some of stock apps, and the phone suddenly going crazy, cant use camera, many apps are broken, like instagram, line messenger, many fc's here and there, and reflashing the stock nougat rom using odin, and then my imei is GONE w*f, i dont remember what i did, i do many flashing , cp only , bl only, csc only, combining ap & cp & csc from oreo and nougat, and the imei is back LOL
and yeah, do you have to pay for getting repair of your phone?
Yes I have to pay for repairs ... for a 6 month old device that Samsung Messed up. (around 40% of the price of the phone)
It seems Samsung does a lot of research on their phones and an update doesn't mess up anything.
When I pointed them to the hundreds of issues they round it off with "Sire u do not have warranty"
Some stuffs I tried without success
Recap :- The issues started after I downloaded the firmware
G950FXXU2CRF7_G950FOXM2CRF7 on Jul 1
Update :- After reading lots of stuffs, I downloaded the same firmware (but of XSG version) from Sammobile .. (download is a slow process)
Flashed it with ODIN .. - Knox doesn't trip and doesn't brick if you pay good attention to the instructions.
Result :- The sensors are still dead
So tried with the Firmware before the update of July 1st
i.e. G950FXXU2CRED_G950FOXM2CREB_XSG Sensors are still dead.
Did not go beyond that firmware as it has U1 instead of U2 .. not sure what that is but read somewhere you shouldn't go back to U1 once you are flashed with U2
NOTE :- Contrary to some videos for Odin with s8, the latest firmware flash wont work with odin 3.12.x. You will have to use 3.13.x (It has to do with the Firmware file compression)
Did a factory reset before and after the flash.
The only thing I did not try is removing the SIM before Factory reset.
Summary,
If SHAMsung customer care "advice's" you to downgrade and try .... They are wasting your time .... trying to void your warranty and these wont work anyways
Either they have some software patch that they can rectify this problem
OR else
..... give in and get your Motherboard changed (If you are like me without warranty in your country .. u r SOLJWF)
Conclusion :- I am going to send this trash back to the Middle East via my relative and keeping my fingers crossed.
The cost emailed by SCAMSung India is 20K+ INR with NO WARRANTIES for motherboard. Looking at their service centers there is a worry if they are capable to retain IP65 after opening it PLUS not sure if this would repeat.
So instead of all this, I could shell another 5 to 8K get phones like Vivo / Opo etc with equal or better features All within warranty.
To all those facing such issues, never spend additional money on these brands.
For those proud owner of S8 GALAXY, better start counting ur STARS
Unfortunate owner of S8
You do know, that THAT is excatly what Samsung excludes in their warranty conditions, right?
"Failure of the product arising from incorrect installation [...]
Unauthorized modifications carried out to the product in order to comply with local or international technical standards in countries for which this SAMSUNG product was not originally designed." (Official Samsung's warranty terms and conditions)
And yes, you did so.
Doesn't care if your S8 is an international version or not. Your phone was not meant to be used outside of the middle East. So your firmware/csc/whatever change made you lose your warranty in the first place. Second, you did flash some firmwares by yourself. No one can be sure, that you flashed it correctly (which I assume though). So next time, if Samsung asks you to reset or downgrade it, let them do it at a service point. Period. Then you can definitely say, you did nothing wrong. But, you altered the phone to work in India, which recaps to unauthorized modifications.
I understand, that it is a very unpleasing situation for you, don't get me wrong.
Even if everything worked fine before the 1st July update, you could have a bug in your phone, which just didn't come out to that time.
Some numbers for you: Samsung sold about 8 million copies of the S8 (plus). So even if "thousands of users report this problem", it's just about 0.01% of the actual users. It's sad for a company that big to wave off the customers like that. But believe me, with such a small number they just don't care enough. The high the number of faulty units seem, it's just too few to really think that it could be a malfunctioning update. Because, why do have thousands not working sensors when millions do not have problems? That's where the whole "altered system, you did something wrong etc." starts.
But what I would do, if Samsung denies me that (questionable) service: I would try to make charges and complains against the seller? I think that in your buying contract, there could be something like "promised working etc."
I work in a place, that has such problems every day. Customers who feel let alone from their company.
It's sad, but it's true. If the costs are to high to swap the faulty devices because the amount is so small, it just won't be done.
See Apple with their downsizing battery. They admitted the mistake (like Samsung could do sometime in the future with the motherboard), but they didn't offer a free repair, just cheaper.
In all your anger and disappointment, I hope I could let you see the other site of the problem.
Sent from my Galaxy S8 using XDA Labs
Just to avoid confusion for prospective readers in future.
You said
"Failure of the product arising from incorrect installation
Unauthorized modifications carried out to the product in order to comply with local or international technical standards in countries for which this SAMSUNG product was not originally designed." (Official Samsung's warranty terms and conditions)
My Response:-
Initially it was an OTA update. Maybe you did not read the thread. No where does Samsung say NEVER INSTALL OTA in a different country. Does it?
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Doesn't care if your S8 is an international version or not. Your phone was not meant to be used outside of the middle East. So your firmware/csc/whatever change made you lose your warranty[/QUOTE]
.. and ..
Period. Then you can definitely say, you did nothing wrong. But, you altered the phone to work in India, which recaps to unauthorized modifications
My Response
So what does International version mean ?
You Said
Second, you did flash some firmwares by yourself. No one can be sure, that you flashed it correctly (which I assume though). So next time, if Samsung asks you to reset or downgrade it, let them do it at a service point
My Response
Yes they too tried it, and did a Shabby job too.
In the end Installed the XSG version myself and got it verified by Samsung Customer Care center here as well as from online tech support via their Remote assistance.
You Said
In all your anger and disappointment, I hope I could let you see the other site of the problem
My Response
No you didn't reveal anything I was unaware. Rather you failed reading the entire thread.
Read post #9 of this thread
The only reason why I didn't persist was, I have the option to send this trash back to the Middle East and claim warranty ... which I am going to do.
So
Whether Defects are 1% or .001%, Failures are Failures, I and many like me are affected while trusting a Global brand ... to help its customers.
FACT IS I invested in a Flagship phone, Trusted the Samsung Service personal stating "You will get all Assistance / Warranty anywhere"
Didn't read "Terms and Conditions" to verify that claim.
Another SHAMEsung device dies
My sister had brought S7 Edge along with my S8
Just few hours back, she called me to say her screen has turned Green..
I read a lot of reports online about this infamous "Green screen of Death" problems of Samsung phones. So much for investing in Flagship devices ..
Got my s8 Back
Update !!
I got my S8 back from the middle east and its working "AS OF NOW"
The report says , changed PCB 2 etc etc
Price paid ? 0$
Won the Trust back? Not yet !! I am not sure if I would do another Samsung Update.
Advice (For those who have s8 Note 8 etc )
- If you ARE under Warranty, go for all the Updates and you will have chance to get the problems fixed.
- If you ARE NOT under Warranty, Take your device to the nearest ShameSung service center and ask them to do the update for you.
Advice (For those who are planning to get s8 Note 8 and S7 edge)
- Please Dont !!
Except for the Camera, there is nothing Extra Ordinary.
Curved display is a gimmick, you will end up accidentally touching the sides while wondering why your menu ain't responding.
Tempered Glass always cracks from the sides.
IRIS Scanner doesn't work for some irises, Doesn't work for me at least
So !! there are better options to look into the market. Look what suits you and you will be happy to pay 1/3rd of the price, yet enjoy all the warranty and support.
Good Luck !!
So, If you are still under warranty
Is there any chance that a new update will fix this issue?
Sorry to be the one telling you this - You seem extremely butthurt and unaware of your own wrong doings.
Just because you had these self inflicted issues, you don't recommend the S8 to others? Boy please. It's people like you i advice to cross over to apple and iOS.
AjitBharat said:
Update !!
I got my S8 back from the middle east and its working "AS OF NOW"
The report says , changed PCB 2 etc etc
Price paid ? 0$
Won the Trust back? Not yet !! I am not sure if I would do another Samsung Update.
Advice (For those who have s8 Note 8 etc )
- If you ARE under Warranty, go for all the Updates and you will have chance to get the problems fixed.
- If you ARE NOT under Warranty, Take your device to the nearest ShameSung service center and ask them to do the update for you.
Advice (For those who are planning to get s8 Note 8 and S7 edge)
- Please Dont !!
Except for the Camera, there is nothing Extra Ordinary.
Curved display is a gimmick, you will end up accidentally touching the sides while wondering why your menu ain't responding.
Tempered Glass always cracks from the sides.
IRIS Scanner doesn't work for some irises, Doesn't work for me at least
So !! there are better options to look into the market. Look what suits you and you will be happy to pay 1/3rd of the price, yet enjoy all the warranty and support.
Good Luck !!
So, If you are still under warranty
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Samsung Updates
Either you haven't read the complete thread ... or ... You did not understand what you just typed
Doing a Samsung Update is what everyone does and what Samsung and Android recommends.
Look around, there are hundreds of S8's and Note 8's affected with the update, and Samsung is rectifying them.
All on their flagship device ?
I have posted both for owners and Prospective buyers..
Lastly my Recommendations / suggestions are based on my experience.
Creedo4Life said:
Sorry to be the one telling you this - You seem extremely butthurt and unaware of your own wrong doings.
Just because you had these self inflicted issues, you don't recommend the S8 to others? Boy please. It's people like you i advice to cross over to apple and iOS.
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(Disc) Possible Road to Root US models

It has been a very long time since I have worked on a phone project, mostly been working on switch and ps4 exploits. I'm not up to date on all the latest phone stuff.
My last exploit and the only one I released publicly, was for the Grand Prime (Cricket variant). Just like last time (I hope) I can get access to the diagnostic flash files and used them to create a modified boot. Also just like last time, I will not release the diag files to the general public if I get them because they can be used for nefarious deeds (They can be used to fully remove frp from a device among other things) and they are proprietary. Not to mention someone could really screw their phone up messing with things. The only thing it doesnt do is unlock the bootloader.
My question is, since im so far out of date and only started doing research, is it even feasible since (at this time) it cannot be used to unlock the BL?
Yes - PAID though
Follow https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...sac23-note-20-ultra-n986u-custom-rom-t4164875
I already did that just waiting for something to come along, what ever happened to this being a place where people go to look at new ideas and discuss. Sure there's only a paid way right now, but might not always be that way....because people work together and come up with other ways. If the world gave up like you did Trump would be president in the USA.....oh wait
And the phone i rooted was deemed impossible by many because how locked down cricket keeps their phones and how locked down samsung keeps their devices.
But you also missed the point, I'm not looking to unlock the bootloader, I'm looking for exploits to allow root without unlocking the bootloader. And before you say it can't be done, your wrong. The impossible is only impossible until it becomes possible.
Yeah good luck with that lol.
Since samsung started Knox stuff for US models
Has been harder and harder to root these phones.
You might have to wait two years if not more to get even half baked root
Glad I paid the money and get my unlocked ultra rooted and bootloader unlocked
For someone like me it's worth it since I'm always flashing and experiencing..
Sure xda users love free stuff but nothing in life is free.
That unlock guy is risking his job.
Who knows one day we won't even have that service because he could get caught.
TheUndertaker21 said:
Yeah good luck with that lol.
Since samsung started Knox stuff for US models
Has been harder and harder to root these phones.
You might have to wait two years if not more to get even half baked root
Glad I paid the money and get my unlocked ultra rooted and bootloader unlocked
For someone like me it's worth it since I'm always flashing and experiencing..
Sure xda users love free stuff but nothing in life is free.
That unlock guy is risking his job.
Who knows one day we won't even have that service because he could get caught.
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How much was it? An where did you do it?
LRiley said:
How much was it? An where did you do it?[/QUOTE
There's one guy on here who does it. Search around and you will find him (look up). I costs about 100-150 depending on model. I have the N986U1 it was 125.
That unlock guy is risking his job.
Who knows one day we won't even have that service because he could get caught.[/QUOTE said:
I doubt that. There are many public tools you can use like z3x to gain full access to a device and write the required token, they just cost money for the hardware and software. They also require hardware keys that need to be renewed every 6 or 12 months and live in the grey area of the law. I know of one vendor who let's you use a VPN to appear in their service region (hk only) just because of covid, but once the lockdowns end they say the VPN access will also go away...odds are thats when he won't be able to do them anymore
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