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Anybody experience apps being killed by OS when multitasking?
For example, I have 2 tabs open in Opera. I received a mail and opened Gmail. After reading the mail and return to Opera, Opera is killed and all the tabs have to reload. This happens all the time even when there are plenty of RAM available! (<550MB/766MB)
*Note: This doesn't occur on my SGS2 that is running Gingerbread. My SGS2 multitasks flawlessly.
Yeah, I too have this problem just by switching from one app to another and back. I will pay more attention to see what else I can notice about it.
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Mine was with Dolphin HD and some other app.
I have not had this problem. But I only use the stock browser.
likewise, when using Dolphin HD with at least 3 tabs opened, then an SMS will come via GO SMS, when I return back to Dolphin, all tabs were loading
i used to have windows mobile phone (Not windows phone)
i used a application called Alt+tab and set a hard key to it.
and works like a charm.
that's almost 10 years ago.. but this top of the line tablet still cant do proper switch running app action.
That is why we need ICS. I have no big problem with HC but that reloading of tabs are really annoying. On my Note with ICS i can do so much more without the frustration. They have virtually the same specs so only thing i can do is wait for ICS.
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c4Lvin said:
That is why we need ICS. I have no big problem with HC but that reloading of tabs are really annoying. On my Note with ICS i can do so much more without the frustration. They have virtually the same specs so only thing i can do is wait for ICS.
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Perhaps. I do suspect HC is the issue too. My SGS2 running Gingerbread multitasks without issues unless it is running out of RAM while the issue occurs all the time even if there are plenty of RAM available on my SGT 7.7!
I'm having the same problem. What makes it worse, is I got this thing as a sketchpad, and wanted to screencast my drawings....I've successfully completed a few, but I've had a few crash on me. Not just annoying....FRUSTRATING. I was really hoping this was going to be the answer to apples thrust toward "production-level" devices.
I'm needing too many work-arounds to make it so...
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exactly, multitasking in HC really annoys me especially when i'm browsing!
i guess, we will only need to wait for ICS. =(
Same here, Even small apps close if they are in the background,
SAMSUNG WE NEED ICS!!
JFSG,
Try this: under developers option in settings - at the bottom under category "apps", see if the box next to "don't keep activities" is checked.
If it is checked then un-check it.
This is just an idea, since I don't have a 7.7 and haven't messed with honeycomb in a while, but I thought I would throw it out there. I had a similar problem and found that I had checked this option.
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They're no développer options in HC ;-)
I'm wondering if this is related to how the stock tablet has always had such low free memory even when all the background tasks are closed. Someone brought it up in another thread and got the excuse of how android is soo efficient and it frees up memory as you need it, blah blah. That may be right, but I don't feel a top tier device should be such that switching tasks like this causes the background tasks to be wiped just because the free memory is already so low. I may be wrong, but I'm just wondering.
My Razr Maxx w/ Eclipse and CM9 Touchpad both start w/ over 500MB free memory and i don't see this issue on those devices.
Hi
Before I start let me tell you that I just love this phone. It's amazing and super snappy.. Almost.
However the launcher redraws are so bad on this one.
Now this is my first Android cell, so I'm not sure if it's a Android issue or S3 issue.
Just a simple scenario. If I go to Play Store browse some apps, see few videos for say 5 mins max and hit the Home button, the launcher would redraw.
It easily takes about 5-6 seconds. Sometimes the home screen would appear in a second but If I hit the app drawer button, it would load for almost 4-5 embarrassing.
Now I know there are few solutions posted for it, but frankly I paid Samsung to do that for me. And to a noob like me, it's not very simple.
It's unbelievable how bad the problem is.
I think just locking it in the Memory, would solve the issue.
Why hasn't Samsung fixed it yet?
It's embarrassing that my old iTouch (I hate Apple btw.) could get out of heavy games within a second.
Why is this beast so laggy? Everyday I face this issue for 5-6 times.
It's driving me mad.
To be honest everytime I browse from more than 10 mins, I feel scared.
Will Sammy ever fix it or the only option is to go through the complex process posted in some other thread.
I'm seriously disappointed in this regard.
I'm on stock ICS, rooted btw.
/rant over.
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Root and update now, or wait and update later.
Understand your pain bro...
I used to get some hard core redraws until I froze a bunch of apps I didn't need.. boom now the max redraw I'd have would take like 1sec and that's always the wether widget.
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nobnut said:
Root and update now, or wait and update later.
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Update to what? The Jellybean leaks fix it?
eggman89 said:
Hi
Before I start let me tell you that I just love this phone. It's amazing and super snappy.. Almost.
However the launcher redraws are so bad on this one.
Now this is my first Android cell, so I'm not sure if it's a Android issue or S3 issue.
Just a simple scenario. If I go to Play Store browse some apps, see few videos for say 5 mins max and hit the Home button, the launcher would redraw.
It easily takes about 5-6 seconds. Sometimes the home screen would appear in a second but If I hit the app drawer button, it would load for almost 4-5 embarrassing.
Now I know there are few solutions posted for it, but frankly I paid Samsung to do that for me. And to a noob like me, it's not very simple.
It's unbelievable how bad the problem is.
I think just locking it in the Memory, would solve the issue.
Why hasn't Samsung fixed it yet?
It's embarrassing that my old iTouch (I hate Apple btw.) could get out of heavy games within a second.
Why is this beast so laggy? Everyday I face this issue for 5-6 times.
It's driving me mad.
To be honest everytime I browse from more than 10 mins, I feel scared.
Will Sammy ever fix it or the only option is to go through the complex process posted in some other thread.
I'm seriously disappointed in this regard.
I'm on stock ICS, rooted btw.
/rant over.
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I agree, seems odd to me that samsung didn't lock TW into memory. I'm using Apex and while the problem isn't fully gone, it's much better than it was. They should have done a better job with the stock launcher imo.
Fade777 said:
Understand your pain bro...
I used to get some hard core redraws until I froze a bunch of apps I didn't need.. boom now the max redraw I'd have would take like 1sec and that's always the wether widget.
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I've also disabled lots of sammy apps (not frozen them).
Can you tell the main culpits?
I haven't had a launcher redraw since 1974 (ok, slight exaggeration). I have always rooted (there are lots of fixes for redrawers) but yes, JB fixes it.
I also downloaded Ram Manager Pro, as it has a "lock launcher in memory" option.
WHile that might have helped ( or just placebo) , but the problem is still there and I'm facing it a lot of times.
eggman89 said:
I also downloaded Ram Manager Pro, as it has a "lock launcher in memory" option.
WHile that might have helped ( or just placebo) , but the problem is still there and I'm facing it a lot of times.
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Are you using a custom Rom or still on stock? How about kernel? If you are rooted you can use titanium backup to freeze a lot of apps which will free up available RAM reducing redraws.
Use all in one toolbox. Goto boot speed up and see what 3rd party crap app is taking up your resources on boot up.
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jlevy73 said:
Are you using a custom Rom or still on stock? How about kernel? If you are rooted you can use titanium backup to freeze a lot of apps which will free up available RAM reducing redraws.
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I'm rooted, but everything stock. And I intend to keep it that way.
Really don't want any other ROm or Kernal as I'm quite satisfied with the Stock ones.
I use Nova launcher btw.
hey,
try this settings》developer 》animation scale set to off.
aswells as transition scale off
hope This helps
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gordonx10i said:
hey,
try this settings》developer 》animation scale set to off.
aswells as transition scale off
hope This helps
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Thanks for the suggestion. But I do not think it'll solve the issue.
Also I want all the bells and whistles. What's the point of this mighty hardware if I have to turn off the animations and fancy stuff.
I might just get a basic Android phone.
eggman89 said:
I'm rooted, but everything stock. And I intend to keep it that way.
Really don't want any other ROm or Kernal as I'm quite satisfied with the Stock ones.
I use Nova launcher btw.
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you don't sound happy with stock, maybe you should have a go at the latest LI5 jb leaks, the odin version seems to me to be the easiest way, takes about 5 mins literally.
Rumour has it that the official will be out sometime this week as an official update, but only on international roms i think.
I think if you want to update officially, you would need to flash via ODIN the international version of ICS which is Samsung official, and that will update when the time is right. if you are on a specific carrier version then they might take a while longer to push the updates to you! (at least that is what i am led to believe!)
By the way, i have never experienced any redraw problems from TW either on galaxy s2 or s3 using stock or custom roms. the JB roms are really smooth too.
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eggman89 said:
Thanks for the suggestion. But I do not think it'll solve the issue.
Also I want all the bells and whistles. What's the point of this mighty hardware if I have to turn off the animations and fancy stuff.
I might just get a basic Android phone.
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and there are more than bells and whistles on JB.......
Really glad I use sslauncher. No redraws on it.
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So... are people now saying jb DOES fix the redraw completely?
My understanding (from all the comments I read on each new leak) was that it HASN'T been fixed.
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Latest leaked JellyBean ROMs give 100 MB more available RAM, which is desperately needed on this phone. Should ease your redraw problems. Try it out.
eggman89 said:
Hi
Before I start let me tell you that I just love this phone. It's amazing and super snappy.. Almost.
However the launcher redraws are so bad on this one.
Now this is my first Android cell, so I'm not sure if it's a Android issue or S3 issue.
Just a simple scenario. If I go to Play Store browse some apps, see few videos for say 5 mins max and hit the Home button, the launcher would redraw.
It easily takes about 5-6 seconds. Sometimes the home screen would appear in a second but If I hit the app drawer button, it would load for almost 4-5 embarrassing.
Now I know there are few solutions posted for it, but frankly I paid Samsung to do that for me. And to a noob like me, it's not very simple.
It's unbelievable how bad the problem is.
I think just locking it in the Memory, would solve the issue.
Why hasn't Samsung fixed it yet?
It's embarrassing that my old iTouch (I hate Apple btw.) could get out of heavy games within a second.
Why is this beast so laggy? Everyday I face this issue for 5-6 times.
It's driving me mad.
To be honest everytime I browse from more than 10 mins, I feel scared.
Will Sammy ever fix it or the only option is to go through the complex process posted in some other thread.
I'm seriously disappointed in this regard.
I'm on stock ICS, rooted btw.
/rant over.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S3
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Wait just a little longer. Jelly bean doesn't have this issue.
Sent from an electronic device.
I wish redraws were the worst problem - browser quitting on me is a bloody nightmare...
Not sure why you people have all of these problems? maybe its an app you have installed or something? I dont get any 5 second redraws or browser crashing.
Hello,
I have this problem with the Chrome browser on my Nexus 10. Basically, it happens a lot. What happens is that after a tab loads and I switch to a new tab, when I switch back to the previous tab, it just automatically reloads? Then I switch to another one and it automatically reloads too. What's going on? Anyone know what's up?
Thanks,
Crazysah
Crazysah said:
I have this problem with the Chrome browser on my Nexus 10. Basically, it happens a lot. What happens is that after a tab loads and I switch to a new tab, when I switch back to the previous tab, it just automatically reloads? Then I switch to another one and it automatically reloads too. What's going on? Anyone know what's up?
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Sounds like you are low on memory. The tabs will not be kept if you run out of memory, so they will need to reload when you return to them.
I'm definitely not on low memory. Only installed like 20 apps on a brand new Nexus 10. Has to be something else.
I'm still having this problem. Anyone know the solution?
I see what you mean now, you're right. It does reload sometimes when it doesn't seen like it needs need to. Just a buggy app I guess. You using the beta?
It should never reload unless it has been a very long time or the site forces it too. I'm using the April 3rd update.
Still experiencing this? Any ideas guys?
Crazysah said:
I'm definitely not on low memory. Only installed like 20 apps on a brand new Nexus 10. Has to be something else.
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Don't confuse memory with space available on sdcard.
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I'm pretty sure I'm not on low memory either. How do I check that?
Crazysah said:
I'm pretty sure I'm not on low memory either. How do I check that?
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Are you stock, or running a ROM?
Generally, though, the recent apps implementation will show how much ram is left.
I'm on stock. Just installed like twenty apps and two wallpapers and that's about it really.
Crazysah said:
I'm on stock. Just installed like twenty apps and two wallpapers and that's about it really.
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Again, this really doesn't have any correlation to how much ram is in use. Given that the GPU takes up even more ram after the last update, the user is only able to use about 1.23gb. Depending on how many of those apps you have open, the system could feel like it is low.
Personally, I have swtiched away from using the Chrome beta, even though I miss the sync across multiple devices.
Free ram....I think the app OS monitor can show you this. Of course there is also the argument that free ram is wasted ram on Android.
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I have about 760MB of free RAM and I still have this problem.
Exactly the same as this problem: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=171316
Crazysah said:
I have about 760MB of free RAM and I still have this problem.
Exactly the same as this problem: crbug.com/171316
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I'm surprised more people aren't complaining about this problem, it is the biggest issue for me on the Nexus 10. I reported that bug on the Chromium bug tracker. I encourage everyone here to sign in to the bug tracker with your google account and star that thread. You don't need to add your own comment, unless you can help debug the problem, simply starring it will show that you care about this issue. Hopefully, the more people star it, the more urgency this issue gets from them.
This is a problem with every Android browser, as far as I can tell, except perhaps Opera Mini, haven't tried that one. It's because of the way Android handles memory: I can reproduce it with Firefox also, just after opening more tabs. Hopefully, the Chromium devs can do something about it. I wonder if the iPad and iOS have similar issues with web browsing, anyone know?
Crazysah said:
Hello,
I have this problem with the Chrome browser on my Nexus 10. Basically, it happens a lot. What happens is that after a tab loads and I switch to a new tab, when I switch back to the previous tab, it just automatically reloads? Then I switch to another one and it automatically reloads too. What's going on? Anyone know what's up?
Thanks,
Crazysah
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I'm dubious as to whether the problem is Chrome on your tablet, or just Chrome for android in general. Its really not all that great, especially compared to Dolphin and AOSP.
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I just got a Note 5 last week to mess around with a bit.
One of the first things i noticed was how much better multi-tasking / task switching is.
On the Note 4 the task switcher usually functions as a fancy launcer where it just re-lauches the app instead of resumes where i left it.
On the Note 5 it really saves the apps state allowing flawless switching like classic alt-tab on the desktop.
Is there any way to get this kind of task switching / memory management on my Note 4? I figure it has enough RAM to serve that functionality so i assume it's a software thing.
it should already work like that, unless an app uses too much RAM.
thedicemaster said:
it should already work like that, unless an app uses too much RAM.
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It really doesn't most of the time.
Specially with games, they will just restart. Even if i just switch to the browser for a few seconds. Phone still has free ram.
I tried several roms from completely stripped TW roms to stock to CM both 5.1.1 and 6.0.1.
You're busy and don't have time to wait, which is why you need to stop reading this thread and get back to organizing your Pogs. Rate this thread to express how the performs when multitasking. A higher rating indicates that the keeps many apps in memory so that they don't need to reload, and that when moving between apps, transitions are smooth and performance is excellent.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I don't know if it's app specific, but when playing a chinese game, Dengeki Bunko: Crossing Void, it's extremely unoptimised and laggy, it's just as if my RAM is at around 400mb spare. Extremely laggy.
Other than that, after only using it for half a day, my device is using around 4.4 GB of ram out of 6GB of RAM when IDLE.
RAM Optimisations need to happen in updates very soon. Again,
A little disappointed with the RAM management.
Anybody else?
YakuzaNeko said:
I don't know if it's app specific, but when playing a chinese game, Dengeki Bunko: Crossing Void, it's extremely unoptimised and laggy, it's just as if my RAM is at around 400mb spare. Extremely laggy.
Other than that, after only using it for half a day, my device is using around 4.4 GB of ram out of 6GB of RAM when IDLE.
RAM Optimisations need to happen in updates very soon. Again,
A little disappointed with the RAM management.
Anybody else?
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ugh, this post is so annoying. right. ram management on android... the more you use, the better your phone is. 4.4gb out of 6gb is not bad. if you have the 8gb oneplus 6, it uses around 5.5gb idle. when you have more ram, you can use more of it. no point having 6gb of ram and only having 2gb at idle
YakuzaNeko said:
I don't know if it's app specific, but when playing a chinese game, Dengeki Bunko: Crossing Void, it's extremely unoptimised and laggy, it's just as if my RAM is at around 400mb spare. Extremely laggy.
Other than that, after only using it for half a day, my device is using around 4.4 GB of ram out of 6GB of RAM when IDLE.
RAM Optimisations need to happen in updates very soon. Again,
A little disappointed with the RAM management.
Anybody else?
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These kind of comments... smh
Lack of RAM is not going to make your game laggy. Your game lacks optimization. Idle RAM = WASTED RAM. These ratings are pointless if idiotic comments like these are counted.
So I see that the ram management is quite aggressive. Today I switched from chrome to inbox to copy something. And chrome restarted the page and I had to start the form over again. Only clearing opened apps asked me to user it without reading the tab.
As gestures are a bit but I am trying XDA gestures and an early access FluiDN.G. which with fine for a few hours then close and disable the accessibility settings for each app. I have disabled auto power management of both applications and allow them to run in all situations. While this works for longer when opening the camera (worst offender) it shuts down the gesture apps and resets the accessibility settings
Other then that things have been as snappy as the one plus 6.
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LOGMD said:
So I see that the ram management is quite aggressive. Today I switched from come to inbox to copy something. And chrome restarted the page and I had to start the form over again. Only clearing opened apps asked me to user it without reading the tab.
As gestures are a bit but I am trying XDA gestures and an early access FluiDN.G. which with fine for a few hours then close and disable the accessibility settings for each app. I have disabled auto power management of both applications and allow them to run in all situations. While this works for longer when opening the camera (worst offender) it shuts down the gesture apps and resets the accessibility settings
Other then that things have been as snappy as the one plus 6.
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There's something with emui and accessibility settings. From my experience, on olther devices, I had to reapply the accessibility settings a few times until it stuck. It's a battle of wills between the phone and yourself.
As for gestures, I think I'm gonna go with the setup on my current device: oneplus gestures and edge gestures. Those two apps are so amazing when it comes to customizing your gestures. Just hope on android 9 I can still disable the nav keys. Although I have a feeling the phone's gonna be a pain to use without nav key, especially while typing.
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There's something with emui and accessibility settings. From my experience, on olther devices, I had to reapply the accessibility settings a few times until it stuck. It's a battle of wills between the phone and yourself.
As for gestures, I think I'm gonna go with the setup on my current device: oneplus gestures and edge gestures. Those two apps are so amazing when it comes to customizing your gestures. Just hope on android 9 I can still disable the nav keys. Although I have a feeling the phone's gonna be a pain to use without nav key, especially while typing.
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Same it's stabilized a little bit. Not sure what the AI power management is doing but maybe it's noticing trends after some use. Still using the camera from time to time makes both XDA gestures and the other nav app stop working
Agree. Ram management is a bit aggressive, hope it will better soon
Ram has taken a turn for the worst today. It's closing Spotify! While playing music. Can't even switch to the last recent app. I'm a power user and developer so I know how to tweak the settings how is a regular user supposed to use this
LOGMD said:
Ram has taken a turn for the worst today. It's closing Spotify! While playing music. Can't even switch to the last recent app. I'm a power user and developer so I know how to tweak the settings how is a regular user supposed to use this
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What is your solution until an official fix?
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What is your solution until an official fix?
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So far none. It just started happening a few hours ago. When the system goes under stress - taking phonecall then trying to message people across 2 different apps and signal changing from WiFi and authenticating VPN then proof - my gesture app gets killed (been fine all day and exempt from all power optimisation) and Spotify gets killed even if it was the last app like instantly.
I'll see if I can dig deeper this weekend. Literally a little polish on the software would make this the best phone I've ever used. Right now it's the worst.
I have a Huawei m5 8 inch tablet with 4gb ram and it manages memory fine. Never had to tweak battery optimisations in the 9 months I've had it.
I hope they fix it before my 30 day cool off. Or this will be the second Huawei I return. The Nexus 6p was stellar (I know Google did the software end to end)
If I can get some advice access to some logs I can maybe find when and where they are killing the apps - maybe there's a memory leak. With 6gb ram I would have though you leave at least 1gb guaranteed to the last 4-5 recent app.
UPDATE: just a thought it might be the smart resolution causing apps to redraw. I've switched off smart resolution now. And switched on 720p fixed. Will test it over next day or so
UPDATE 2: After setting to fixed 720p signs are positive... Now I can go back 20 apps on the recents screen and they all do not redraw or reload. I think there may be a bug in the smart resolution. It's been 30 minutes and I just reopened an app that was open last in recently 30 mins ago. Try this and see if it works too.
xtrocata said:
There's something with emui and accessibility settings. From my experience, on olther devices, I had to reapply the accessibility settings a few times until it stuck. It's a battle of wills between the phone and yourself.
As for gestures, I think I'm gonna go with the setup on my current device: oneplus gestures and edge gestures. Those two apps are so amazing when it comes to customizing your gestures. Just hope on android 9 I can still disable the nav keys. Although I have a feeling the phone's gonna be a pain to use without nav key, especially while typing.
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Can you please let me know if OnePlus Gestures and Edge Gestures apps work fluidly in the mate 20 pro? I haven't purchased them yet but others gesture app I've purchased had compatibility issues with samsung phones, similar to issues some users were having with mate 20 pro and third party launcher, the gestures did work, but with a 2-3 second delay to go home. If you can confirm OnePlus Gestures and Edge Gestures work as fast as native mate 20 pro gestures I'll buy those apps.
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Can you please let me know if OnePlus Gestures and Edge Gestures apps work fluidly in the mate 20 pro? I haven't purchased them yet but others gesture app I've purchased had compatibility issues with samsung phones, similar to issues some users were having with mate 20 pro and third party launcher, the gestures did work, but with a 2-3 second delay to go home. If you can confirm OnePlus Gestures and Edge Gestures work as fast as native mate 20 pro gestures I'll buy those apps.
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I've used XDA gestures and a new app called Fluid N.G (it's seriously amazing to use) and there is 0 lag. It's almost as snappy as huawei own gestures. Check the gif attached (sorry for bad quality I did it quickly)
vwite said:
Can you please let me know if OnePlus Gestures and Edge Gestures apps work fluidly in the mate 20 pro? I haven't purchased them yet but others gesture app I've purchased had compatibility issues with samsung phones, similar to issues some users were having with mate 20 pro and third party launcher, the gestures did work, but with a 2-3 second delay to go home. If you can confirm OnePlus Gestures and Edge Gestures work as fast as native mate 20 pro gestures I'll buy those apps.
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Sorry. After all the issues and head aches the Mate was giving people, I cancelled my preorder and went and bought the Note 9. Best decision I ever made (when it comes to phone purchases that is). So I won't be able to help you out.
But those two apps worked flawlessly on the LG G7 and now I only installed Edge Gestures on the Note 9 and it works without a hiccup.
Anyway, I think those apps have free versions, no?
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Sorry. After all the issues and head aches the Mate was giving people, I cancelled my preorder and went and bought the Note 9. Best decision I ever made (when it comes to phone purchases that is). So I won't be able to help you out.
But those two apps worked flawlessly on the LG G7 and now I only installed Edge Gestures on the Note 9 and it works without a hiccup.
Anyway, I think those apps have free versions, no?
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I couldn't find free versions but I ended up purchasing them and they work good on my Note 9 but haven't tried them in the Mate 20 Pro. I'm actually switching from Note 9 to Mate 20 Pro but I'd say the best gesture app for Samsung phones is One Hand Operation+, you have to download goodlock first from galaxy store, then it'll let you install one hand operation+, I'd suggest you try it if you have a chance
Not using smart resolution and locking the resolution to 1080 solved 80% of my ram problems... Haha as in you dont see the app rendering when switching between. I guess its a bug with different apps different resolutions therefore re-rendering upon switching... Suggest you guys try it...
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LOGMD said:
So far none. It just started happening a few hours ago. When the system goes under stress - taking phonecall then trying to message people across 2 different apps and signal changing from WiFi and authenticating VPN then proof - my gesture app gets killed (been fine all day and exempt from all power optimisation) and Spotify gets killed even if it was the last app like instantly.
I'll see if I can dig deeper this weekend. Literally a little polish on the software would make this the best phone I've ever used. Right now it's the worst.
I have a Huawei m5 8 inch tablet with 4gb ram and it manages memory fine. Never had to tweak battery optimisations in the 9 months I've had it.
I hope they fix it before my 30 day cool off. Or this will be the second Huawei I return. The Nexus 6p was stellar (I know Google did the software end to end)
If I can get some advice access to some logs I can maybe find when and where they are killing the apps - maybe there's a memory leak. With 6gb ram I would have though you leave at least 1gb guaranteed to the last 4-5 recent app.
UPDATE: just a thought it might be the smart resolution causing apps to redraw. I've switched off smart resolution now. And switched on 720p fixed. Will test it over next day or so
UPDATE 2: After setting to fixed 720p signs are positive... Now I can go back 20 apps on the recents screen and they all do not redraw or reload. I think there may be a bug in the smart resolution. It's been 30 minutes and I just reopened an app that was open last in recently 30 mins ago. Try this and see if it works too.
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Thanks for this suggestion... Works like a charm now without smart resolution..
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LOGMD said:
So far none. It just started happening a few hours ago. When the system goes under stress - taking phonecall then trying to message people across 2 different apps and signal changing from WiFi and authenticating VPN then proof - my gesture app gets killed (been fine all day and exempt from all power optimisation) and Spotify gets killed even if it was the last app like instantly.
I'll see if I can dig deeper this weekend. Literally a little polish on the software would make this the best phone I've ever used. Right now it's the worst.
I have a Huawei m5 8 inch tablet with 4gb ram and it manages memory fine. Never had to tweak battery optimisations in the 9 months I've had it.
I hope they fix it before my 30 day cool off. Or this will be the second Huawei I return. The Nexus 6p was stellar (I know Google did the software end to end)
If I can get some advice access to some logs I can maybe find when and where they are killing the apps - maybe there's a memory leak. With 6gb ram I would have though you leave at least 1gb guaranteed to the last 4-5 recent app.
UPDATE: just a thought it might be the smart resolution causing apps to redraw. I've switched off smart resolution now. And switched on 720p fixed. Will test it over next day or so
UPDATE 2: After setting to fixed 720p signs are positive... Now I can go back 20 apps on the recents screen and they all do not redraw or reload. I think there may be a bug in the smart resolution. It's been 30 minutes and I just reopened an app that was open last in recently 30 mins ago. Try this and see if it works too.
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Thanks for this suggestion... Works like a charm now without smart resolution..
Thanks for this suggestion... Works like a charm now without smart resolution..
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Yeah been half a day and no app crashes minimal reloading of apps. I'm at home today so battery drain is less anyways. I also turned off automatically manage all apps. That seems to contribute to aggressive killing.
What resolution you at? I'm trying 720p it still looks nice and crisp just can't play 1080 videos. Might switch back up to 1080 or QHD and see the battery difference.
LOGMD said:
Ram has taken a turn for the worst today. It's closing Spotify! While playing music. Can't even switch to the last recent app. I'm a power user and developer so I know how to tweak the settings how is a regular user supposed to use this
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No issue here. Used it for 8+ hours straight. I have it all set to manage manually. Spotify can't autolaunch but allowed to remain in background
LOGMD said:
Yeah been half a day and no app crashes minimal reloading of apps. I'm at home today so battery drain is less anyways. I also turned off automatically manage all apps. That seems to contribute to aggressive killing.
What resolution you at? I'm trying 720p it still looks nice and crisp just can't play 1080 videos. Might switch back up to 1080 or QHD and see the battery difference.
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I have been using WQHD+ since I got the device and battery life has been outstanding.
Thanks for the suggestion around Manual Management of apps, it has improved multitasking a lot.
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