Now that David Schuster is gone from Moto, I decided to contact Customer service... Don't think the person really knows.
Alessandro Chavez (Listening)
Alessandro Chavez: Hi, my name is Alessandro Chavez. How may I help you?
Alessandro Chavez: Good morning! Who do I have the pleasure of chatting with?
Scott Wilson: Greetings,
Alessandro Chavez: Hi
Scott Wilson: Now that David Schuster is laid off from Moto, How do we find out if we are ever going to receive Lollipop or other updates?
Scott Wilson: Many that have 2013 Droids are in the Dark. Vrizon tells us nothing, and we are frustrated
Alessandro Chavez: Ok, well to be honest all the Phones around the world will receive the update
Alessandro Chavez: Yes is understandable
Scott Wilson: from 2013 and up?
Scott Wilson: Are you saying that Verizon is still going to upgrade Lollipop for the 2013 Droids on Verizon?
Alessandro Chavez: Well what version of Droid you have?
Scott Wilson: Droid Maxx
Alessandro Chavez: Ok thanks, do you remember what was the original software?
Scott Wilson: Kitkat
Alessandro Chavez: Ok, so yes the phone will receive it, but it is randomly
Alessandro Chavez: We can't determine when you are going to receive it
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Now that David Schuster is gone from Moto, I decided to contact Customer service... Don't think the person really knows.
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Alessandro Chavez: We can't determine when you are going to receive it
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This is no surprise. Motorola can't tell you because it isn't up to them. The ball is in Verizon's court and has been for a long time. I really doubt my Droid Maxx will ever get another major version update. On the other hand I'm finding it works very well for me as it is. I have a Samsung tablet that got updated from 4.4.2 to 5.02 and generally speaking that was a big "so what's the big deal" moment. In the case of my Samsung Galaxy Tab S 8.4 it did seem a little smoother and a little snappier. On the other hand I did a factory reset after getting the update...and all devices feel snappier after a reset, right?
Anyway if you want to know about updates ask Verizon....where you will get a blank stare. For me, I don't particularly care if I get an update.
Someone actually wants Lollipop on an Ultra/MAXX/Mini? Really? Do they understand how badly it'll screw up our devices in doing so? KitKat is mature, stable, and it just works - Lollipop brings nothing to the party at this point in the Android game, so to speak.
Hell, I was considering getting a new device recently but then I realized all the new devices come with Lollipop and there's just no KitKat to work with anymore so it looks like I'll just keep buying old used devices that run KitKat and stick with 'em.
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I've been running LP 5.1.1 for the past month and is amazed at how it renewed my phone. No wonder Motorola is not pushing hard to get LP released, it'll mean less upgrades to their new models. My Maxx is a beast right now. The interface is silky smooth, scrolling through apps that used to choke on itself is no longer the case. Tapatalk for example used to be choppy as all hell, now it is like the phone is reading my mind. Overall, the phone is much snappier. Battery life is at least equal to the best I've ever had running on KitKat, probably better actually. With everything enabled and running on radio the whole day is no big deal. With the screen off, it is draining at about 1% per hour. Yeah, KitKat is just bad memory for me at this point. Its was ugly, and was laboring the phone. The chains have been released! Lol. Exodus 5.1.1 on the Maxx baby!
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Id almost bet $$ the mini and ultra will never see lollipop or 6.0.
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I've been running LP 5.1.1 for the past month and is amazed at how it renewed my phone. No wonder Motorola is not pushing hard to get LP released, it'll mean less upgrades to their new models. My Maxx is a beast right now. The interface is silky smooth, scrolling through apps that used to choke on itself is no longer the case. Tapatalk for example used to be choppy as all hell, now it is like the phone is reading my mind. Overall, the phone is much snappier. Battery life is at least equal to the best I've ever had running on KitKat, probably better actually. With everything enabled and running on radio the whole day is no big deal. With the screen off, it is draining at about 1% per hour. Yeah, KitKat is just bad memory for me at this point. Its was ugly, and was laboring the phone. The chains have been released! Lol. Exodus 5.1.1 on the Maxx baby!
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Did you do a factory reset or clean install in conjunction with 5.1.1? On a device that's been in use for a while I've found a reset in and of itself seems to make it work like a new phone. On my Samsung tablet I got an update to 5.02 and didn't really notice any performance improvement. Then I did a factory reset and it felt really fast...but it may have felt just as fast had I done a factory reset on 4.4.
No factory reset, but going from 4.4.4 to 5.1, I had to delete the systems folder. Kept data untouched and had all my apps still installed. Been doing dirty flashes since while updating the Exodus nightly. The biggest difference between 4.4.4 and 5.1.1 is how much smoother the LP UI is. It is like upgrading the graphics card in a computer. Scrolling is night and day as I've said, I use Crapatalk a lot and is the most active app on my phone and in LP, it is Tapatalk again. Scrolling is buttery smooth and that's not even exaggerating. Everything is snappier. When I say it is a new phone, I mean it. My wife has the OG Moto X and I still have a Moto X DE, both unlocked anf still running 4.4.4 so I've done plenty of comparison. KitKat is literally sh1t compared to Exodus 5.1.1.
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Johnny Wong said:
No factory reset, but going from 4.4.4 to 5.1, I had to delete the systems folder. Kept data untouched and had all my apps still installed. Been doing dirty flashes since while updating the Exodus nightly. The biggest difference between 4.4.4 and 5.1.1 is how much smoother the LP UI is. It is like upgrading the graphics card in a computer. Scrolling is night and day as I've said, I use Crapatalk a lot and is the most active app on my phone and in LP, it is Tapatalk again. Scrolling is buttery smooth and that's not even exaggerating. Everything is snappier. When I say it is a new phone, I mean it. My wife has the OG Moto X and I still have a Moto X DE, both unlocked anf still running 4.4.4 so I've done plenty of comparison. KitKat is literally sh1t compared to Exodus 5.1.1.
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I just said the same thing in another thread lollipop kicks ass over kk. Exodus rom is the ****. I just hope when they do update the maxx stock lollipop is as smooth.
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Hey Folks,
Anyone tested out the Droid 4? I used to have a G1 and loved it. Now I am contemplating switching back to android but want a qwerty. G2 would be great but it seems a bit old/outdated..
Has any G2 user switched to a droid 4 (seems like the best qwerty, with little plans to make a super smartphone with a qwerty) and how is it??
Thanks.
I love my Droid 4, the keyboard is a lot better than the G2.
Pros:
Bigger Screen
Higher Pixel Density
Dual Core 1.2 Ghz CPU
1GB of RAM
Amazing Keyboard
SD Card Support
Eventual ICS
Cons:
Locked Bootloader (Still have the ability to install Custom ROMS, but no Custom Kernels)
Pentile Display (Makes some colors look more dotted)
Still on Gingerbread
Non-Removable Battery
Thanks!! Super helpful.
Hmm unfortunately the locked bootloader is quite unfortunate. Might be a dealbreaker. (Also no sim card) I swung by a VZ store today to check out the galaxy nexus and also played with the droid 4. Honestly wasnt that impressed with the keyboard, although its probably because I have been spoiled by my blackberry 9900 which has the best keyboard ever. Suppose its going to be hard to find a better keyboard.
I am now swinging towards the gnex with a prepaid plan through tmobile for $30/month (!!). Gosh I am so indecisive.
PS- check your phone OTA for updates, the guy in store was updating the Droid4 there to ICS.
Was thinking about getting a droid 4 myself but the support for it is minimal on xda, maybe its a little better on roots wiki?
The bootstrap n the names they have for recovery is a bit confusing why not just say recovery, bootloader etc.
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PS- check your phone OTA for updates, the guy in store was updating the Droid4 there to ICS.
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The only official ICS for the D4 are the leaked builds, but not official OTA yet. The only Moto phone that is getting updates right now is the Droid Razr/Razr MAXX to ICS. The guy at the VZW Store must be updating to the leak builds lol.
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The only official ICS for the D4 are the leaked builds, but not official OTA yet. The only Moto phone that is getting updates right now is the Droid Razr/Razr MAXX to ICS. The guy at the VZW Store must be updating to the leak builds lol.
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Oh sorry perhaps he was updating the droid razr, etc rather than the droid4. It was the OTA update as I watched him do it (obviously not that carefully lol). Sorry for the false hope
I cannot wait! Currently using an up-to-date OTA S4 on Verizon, meaning I am stuck with bloated touchwiz . Can't wait to switch over to the Dev Edition Moto X. Once the new Eclipse update is released I shall start "ROM"ing.
StiM_AddiCt said:
I cannot wait! Currently using an up-to-date OTA S4 on Verizon, meaning I am stuck with bloated touchwiz . Can't wait to switch over to the Dev Edition Moto X. Once the new Eclipse update is released I shall start "ROM"ing.
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I made the switch from an at&t gs4 on mk2 using safestrap to flash Roms. Got tired of always flashing and setting up. Got this and got it rooted with gravity box, greenify. Don't really need the ROM ing on this phone. But I got a regular att not the DE
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StiM_AddiCt said:
I cannot wait! Currently using an up-to-date OTA S4 on Verizon, meaning I am stuck with bloated touchwiz . Can't wait to switch over to the Dev Edition Moto X. Once the new Eclipse update is released I shall start "ROM"ing.
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Just moved to a moto x DE from a verizon droid maxx that was stuck on 4.4 unrooted. Honestly, i wanted the droid maxx DE, but it was out of stock and i had the money now.
Only have had it for a couple days, but im really liking the size of the device. was kinda hesitant coming from the maxx, but it feels so good im my hands. I find that im not streching to reach the notification shade, and that the phone isnt sticking out the top of my shirt pocket when im working.
Another vote for Stock + xposed = no need to ROM. Wanted the dev edition so that i can always root no matter what update they throw at us.
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Just moved to a moto x DE from a verizon droid maxx that was stuck on 4.4 unrooted. Honestly, i wanted the droid maxx DE, but it was out of stock and i had the money now.
Only have had it for a couple days, but im really liking the size of the device. was kinda hesitant coming from the maxx, but it feels so good im my hands. I find that im not streching to reach the notification shade, and that the phone isnt sticking out the top of my shirt pocket when im working.
Another vote for Stock + xposed = no need to ROM. Wanted the dev edition so that i can always root no matter what update they throw at us.
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Awesome. Glad to hear the stock ROM is that good. Touchwiz left me with a bad taste in my mouth. What are the recommend "must haves" once I am rooted?
StiM_AddiCt said:
Awesome. Glad to hear the stock ROM is that good. Touchwiz left me with a bad taste in my mouth. What are the recommend "must haves" once I am rooted?
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Xposed with the Gravity Box module at a minimum. The rest depends on your needs. I also have the Moto Tether module.
Another benefit of the Dev Edition is to more easily flash ROMs down the road, when Moto/Lenovo stops supporting the device and releasing updates. Right now I have no interest in going off stock, but 2 years from now, that may change if I am stuck on Android 4.5 or whatever and 5.x has been out for a year.
StiM_AddiCt said:
Awesome. Glad to hear the stock ROM is that good. Touchwiz left me with a bad taste in my mouth. What are the recommend "must haves" once I am rooted?
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i ran a s3 for a year before switching over and i can agree i froze TW from the start and installed a diffrent launcher. but i am happy to say even the stock launcher on this phone is great.
here is some of the stuff i have done
root
xposed
titanium backup
freeze all apps i dont use
greenify
new launcher
battery state read just incase something is draining the battery
i get about 1day 4hr on a full charge.
Root
Xposed; Modules: Gravity Box, Youtube ad-away, moto tether, root cloak, preference injector
Root enabled file explorer, I use Solid Explorer
Thats what im using so far, just got my DE 2 days ago, so im still getting settled in.
I also plan on flashing the image to get rid of the unlocked bootloader warning message that shows prior to the boot animation, but thats not really a big deal to me
I had a Verizon S4 on MK2. I will never buy another samsung phone in my lifetime, unless they decide to get rid of touchwiz... HA, right. Right now, I currently have a VZW DE Moto X I picked up on Swappa for about 390. It took 2 days to get here, and it is great. I do not miss my S4 one little bit. I even have it up for sale on Swappa but I'm not trying to advertise so I won't go into further detail on that. I love the Moto X, but I'm worried to take it out of the house xD.
Another former touchwiz convert here ... Came from Verizon Note 3 (had Note 2 prior to it) and while I wasn't overly thrilled about TW, I didn't mind it on the Note series (my first devices with TW).
Loved my N2 in every way, but the N3 (for me) sucked as a phone - bad quality, dropped calls and constant data drops/in and out of 4G etc
Decided to take advantage of the Moto sales and grabbed a DE X ... Of course I was concerned about the significant size difference, but after a week or so with the x I was hooked! Sold N3 and haven't regretted it at all.
Also agree with others as far as ROM's go .. No need IMO. Get Xposed and Gravity Box and you're golden!
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Well both my DE and Black/White Bumper have shipped. Inter-webs say they will be here Tuesday. I shall turn on the Moto X and see if it needs to update to 4.4 and then check it out to ensure I am safe to port my number over. My phone is through a corporate account and is a pain in the ass to switch lol.
I've had the captivate, S2, S3, and Note 3. I always flashed custom ROMs because I hated TW so much. I bought the GSM DE, and feel no need to flash any custom ROM. For the first time, I'm completely happy with stock. Now, a custom kernel is another thing all together. Lol
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Another Verizon Samsung gs4 convert. I came from Sprint before complaining about the previous few generations of HTC evo phones and I had no idea how much worse Samsung had messed up the android experience (especially with the way Verizon locks down the phone). Whomever is responsible for the abomination that is touchwiz should be flogged.
I've got the vzw de x and so far haven't seen a reason to ROM it.
Hey guys are we really rushing lollipop on T-mobile. With all these US carriers talking about bugs in the latest version why would we even want it right now. 5.0 No 5.1 YES. I have a great running 5.0 rom running now but yes the battery isn't that great, yes it's gets hot, yes it takes longer to boot, yes my LTE is spotty at times, yes my WiFi isn't as strong at kit Kat. Am I alone on this one? Read the below article. The U.S. carriers isn't the only ones with the problem.
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/4...es-continue-as-some-carrier-testing-fails.htm
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Hey guys are we really rushing lollipop on T-mobile. With all these US carriers talking about bugs in the latest version why would we even want it right now. 5.0 No 5.1 YES. I have a great running 5.0 rom running now but yes the battery isn't that great, yes it's gets hot, yes it takes longer to boot, yes my LTE is spotty at times, yes my WiFi isn't as strong at kit Kat. Am I alone on this one? Read the below article. The U.S. carriers isn't the only ones with the problem.
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/4...es-continue-as-some-carrier-testing-fails.htm
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IBTL:highfive:
I like cheese.
for me, I'm in no rush. unless lollipop fixes this extremely laggy phone I can care less. this phone, as powerful as the specs say it is, is a slow, laggy, bad camera POS. I'm eligible for jump on 9/25 and it cannot come soon enough. I had a Moto X before this, and I was happy with it. the Note 4 is full of disappointment. I don't see how all of the early reviews were so positive for it, the moto x had embarrassing specs but performed perfect, the camera wasn't good but I preferred it over this one, at least it opened and focused quickly.
I still wouldnt call it a "rush" though when its the slowest to market.
Most of these articles make me like tmo even more. I can wait for greatness. I think sprint use to watch xda closely because some how after every update leak that had problems and xda devs fixed them sprint would release a newer update with those problems gone lol gotta love xda
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for me, I'm in no rush. unless lollipop fixes this extremely laggy phone I can care less. this phone, as powerful as the specs say it is, is a slow, laggy, bad camera POS. I'm eligible for jump on 9/25 and it cannot come soon enough. I had a Moto X before this, and I was happy with it. the Note 4 is full of disappointment. I don't see how all of the early reviews were so positive for it, the moto x had embarrassing specs but performed perfect, the camera wasn't good but I preferred it over this one, at least it opened and focused quickly.
I still wouldnt call it a "rush" though when its the slowest to market.
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Flash Dynamic Pop or Dynamic Kat and it'll change your mind about the phone.
I have been using the unmodified port of SM-N910W8 Lollipop firmware (http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...t-unmodified-port-sm-n910w8-lollipop-t3072920) for a while now and it has made my phone better. That said i rather wait for the tmo version without bugs instead of right now and render my phone unusable. Also there are many 5.0 roms already out which are infinite better than anything tmo can ever gives us .
racer83l said:
for me, I'm in no rush. unless lollipop fixes this extremely laggy phone I can care less. this phone, as powerful as the specs say it is, is a slow, laggy, bad camera POS. I'm eligible for jump on 9/25 and it cannot come soon enough. I had a Moto X before this, and I was happy with it. the Note 4 is full of disappointment. I don't see how all of the early reviews were so positive for it, the moto x had embarrassing specs but performed perfect, the camera wasn't good but I preferred it over this one, at least it opened and focused quickly.
I still wouldnt call it a "rush" though when its the slowest to market.
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Bad camera??? Laggy??? I dunno what phone you're using, but my Note 4 has an AWESOME camera and is faster/smoother than anything I've ever used before. Are you you running straight stock with no root, mods, etc?
You are not alone my friend. As much as I love them. .I finally flashed rapture again last night. Developers are limited as far as how great they can make touch wiz....Samsung as limited because Google dropped a messed up os to begin with its a shame really
mgbotoe said:
You are not alone my friend. As much as I love them. .I finally flashed rapture again last night. Developers are limited as far as how great they can make touch wiz....Samsung as limited because Google dropped a messed up os to begin with its a shame really
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I agree. Samsung should not push lollipop to anyphones unless google irons out all the bugs. Right now 5.0.1 or 5.0.2 is out for most. But why not wait for stable OS from google as nexus users will be the testers for us.
Also samsung needs to do lot of testing on stable OS from google because of TW skin
topgun303 said:
I agree. Samsung should not push lollipop to anyphones unless google irons out all the bugs. Right now 5.0.1 or 5.0.2 is out for most. But why not wait for stable OS from google as nexus users will be the testers for us.
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To be fair it's not like Apple and Microsoft put out perfect OS's right out of the box. Granted Apple is a different model but software is software, at some point the decision has to be made to release, bugs and all.
I have become so used to cm12 and now 12.1 and very happy that honestly dont see myself bothering with the official when ever its released
I like orange peanuts. ....oh and I'm loving the modified Canadian Lollipop port!
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I spoke with my friend who works for TMO he told me that they had been testing show failed it has reported back to Samsung takes little longer. He thinks it will release out in late summer. I am disappointed. I wish I had kept note 3 (N900T)
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Flash Dynamic Pop or Dynamic Kat and it'll change your mind about the phone.
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Very true statement here... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ :good::good::good:
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I have become so used to cm12 and now 12.1 and very happy that honestly dont see myself bothering with the official when ever its released
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Is Bluetooth working on it? 12.1 I mean also how's the battery. .last I tried it sucked bad
I agree with a lot of what was said here, but if you're on XDA, why not root and flash a custom ROM if you're unhappy with your phone? I've tried at least 4 ROMs for the Note 4 (and many more with the Note 3) and have found at least a couple are almost perfect and most have been far superior to stock in every way. And I'm just talking about normal performance; with root you also have the ability to add and subtract apps and features and theme your device and truly make it yours. With a custom ROM and all the options and performance root brings, we really won't need to update for years from the current OS. But if Samsung would lighten up TouchWiz, the updates would come faster.
mgbotoe said:
You are not alone my friend. As much as I love them. .I finally flashed rapture again last night. Developers are limited as far as how great they can make touch wiz....Samsung as limited because Google dropped a messed up os to begin with its a shame really
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G4???? Lmao
BAD ASS NOTE 4
So some people are not happy and wish to stay with their old phones or even want to sell the note because an incremental update is late. LOL, that's f**king absurd.
BACARDILIMON said:
G4???? Lmao
BAD ASS NOTE 4
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Haha u getting it?!?! That camera!
Well its official. Support is now dropped in terms of major ROM updates. We're stuck, official ROM wise, on the current 5.1.
Very very disappointing as I think our devices are perfectly capable of running Marshmallow. Just proves yet again the claim that Apple have better support. I mean the 4s got the latest iOS 9. Anyway…sorry to bring the sad news guys. Cyanogenmod it is then.
Let us know your thoughts.
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Already made the switch to cyanogenmod a while back.
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Would be nice to get an unlock for the xt1060, but that's probably not happening. Maybe it's time to bug the sunshine guys into looking into it again, I know they managed to get the 2nd gen bootloaders unlocked. Kind of our last hope.
stealtheye said:
Well its official. Support is now dropped in terms of major ROM updates. We're stuck, official ROM wise, on the current 5.1.
Very very disappointing as I think our devices are perfectly capable of running Marshmallow. Just proves yet again the claim that Apple have better support. I mean the 4s got the latest iOS 9. Anyway…sorry to bring the sad news guys. Cyanogenmod it is then.
Let us know your thoughts.
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We can already be happy to have received the 5.1 !!!!! (and perhaps an update for the latest major security breaches !! I think we're many people that are very disappointed by Motorola)
Well its now a 2 year old device, does it sucks ? Yes, of course
But considering the Nexus 4 had problems updating to L and its not on the roadmap for M (same exact situation for X2013), maybe theres something with the Snapdragob S4 Pro ?
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Faruko said:
Well its now a 2 year old device, does it sucks ? Yes, of course
But considering the Nexus 4 had problems updating to L and its not on the roadmap for M (same exact situation for X2013), maybe theres something with the Snapdragob S4 Pro ?
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Nothing wrong with the Snapdragon S4 pro. the nexus 7 2013 has it and it's getting the upgrade.
The biggest disappointment for me in not getting an M update is there will be no official fix for the Cell Standby battery drain.
I've since reverted (I hesitate to say downgraded) to 4.4.4. Sure, I'm missing the stage fright fix, but at least my battery isn't dead by 5pm. I guess I could consider a dead battery the ultimate stage fright fix.
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UncleMike said:
The biggest disappointment for me in not getting an M update is there will be no official fix for the Cell Standby battery drain.
I've since reverted (I hesitate to say downgraded) to 4.4.4. Sure, I'm missing the stage fright fix, but at least my battery isn't dead by 5pm. I guess I could consider a dead battery the ultimate stage fright fix.
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I was hoping for Moto to address the myriad issues in the 5.1 OTA, but that seems rather unlikely at this point. As much as I want to stick with the stock ROM, there are too many annoying problems. I think I have to make the switch to CM in order to have a stable, relatively bug-free experience once again.
locusto03 said:
I think I have to make the switch to CM in order to have a stable, relatively bug-free experience once again.
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I LOL'd at this, almost literally. If you think any source built ROM (CM, AOSP or otherwise) is going to be bug free, you're lying to yourself. The only place that is anywhere close to possible is with Nexus devices.
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I LOL'd at this, almost literally. If you think any source built ROM (CM, AOSP or otherwise) is going to be bug free, you're lying to yourself. The only place that is anywhere close to possible is with Nexus devices.
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I realize how it sounds, but that's truly how bad the 5.1 OTA has been for me. YouTube randomly pauses videos while audio continues to work, requiring a reboot. Random loud crackling/distortion through the speaker, requiring a reboot. Overall increased battery drain compared to 4.4.4, with random periods of even faster drain, requiring a reboot. Broken calendar sync.
Been playing with CM12.1 all day, and although I'll deeply miss the stock Moto features, performance has been great with none of the aforementioned bugs. It simply works as it should. If by some miracle Moto were to release a 5.1.1 update without annoying issues, I'd switch back in a heatbeat as I prefer the stock experience.
I would be happy if we just got a fix for youtube. It's broken now on my locked down ATT xt1058 and seems to be for many others as well.
We're on 2013, but many of the 2014 Moto X models aren't getting it either http://www.androidcentral.com/delays-and-abandonment-now-dominate-motorolas-comeback-tale
Which is abysmal. I can't imagine getting another Moto after this. Moving over to Nexus for my next phone. I'm generally happy running 4.4, especially seeing the issues some of you are having with OTA 5.1. I like this phone. I bought this phone because it was made by Google, but I don't think the Lenovo sale has been good news for Motorola.
brian Marshall said:
I would be happy if we just got a fix for youtube. It's broken now on my locked down ATT xt1058 and seems to be for many others as well.
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You've got to be kidding me...
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This is not a logical response on my part, but now that I know my Moto X 1st Gen won't be getting any more official upgrades, I suddenly feel much freer to play around with it, install custom ROMs, etc. I did this all the time with my previous phone (HTC Sensation), but I've stuck with stock on my Moto X, mainly because it has met my needs pretty well (apart from battery life). But now I'm free to play! In fact, CM12.1 went on my phone just this morning. Nice!
Oh boo hoo.
How did you do that? Any directions to an article?
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UncleMike said:
The biggest disappointment for me in not getting an M update is there will be no official fix for the Cell Standby battery drain.
I've since reverted (I hesitate to say downgraded) to 4.4.4. Sure, I'm missing the stage fright fix, but at least my battery isn't dead by 5pm. I guess I could consider a dead battery the ultimate stage fright fix.
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How did you do that? Any directions to an article?
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You've got to be kidding me...
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kidding you? about what? That youtube doens't work, or that I'd be happy if it did? /confused
Ahah, on Sprint XT 1056 latest firmware was 4.4.4, but I can install or flash 5.1 from 1053, and its fine. For me M isn't a big deal or step after Lollipop, how it was from KitKat. So, no hurry even for CM... 13(?)
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sherif2015 said:
How did you do that? Any directions to an article?
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How did you do that? Any directions to an article?
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Here's a link to the thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/guide-faq-how-to-downgrade-5-1-to-4-4-4-t3182118
It's intended for the XT1052, but the steps worked on my XT1053 as well (though someone else confirmed it before I tried). You'll need an unlocked bootloader and the factory images for your model.
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Ahah, on Sprint XT 1056 latest firmware was 4.4.4, but I can install or flash 5.1 from 1053, and its fine. For me M isn't a big deal or step after Lollipop, how it was from KitKat. So, no hurry even for CM... 13(?)
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For clarification: are you using your Sprint 1056 on the Sprint network after flashing 5.1 from the 1053?
http://www.computerworld.com/articl...d-upgrade-report-card-marshmallow.html?page=2
A BIG FAT "F"
Length of time for upgrade to reach current flagship: 65 days (51.6/60 points)
Length of time for upgrade to reach previous-gen flagship: 74 days for the unlocked model -- though with all U.S. carrier models abandoned (0/30 points)
Communication: Poor (0/10 points)
An Android manufacturer has never fallen as fast and hard as what we've seen with Motorola these past couple years. In a matter of months, Moto went from being the shining example of what an Android device-maker should be to being a bitter disappointment Android fans won't soon forgive. (So much for that "nothing will change" transition in ownership, right?)
Following last year's 65% "D" grade for Android upgrades, the Lenovo-owned Motorola gets a big fat embarrassing "F" for the mess it made of this year's Marshmallow rollout. While it did do a reasonably decent (though nowhere near the standard it had maintained in the past) job at getting Android 6.0 out to its current and previous-gen flagships, it did so with one major asterisk: the outright abandonment of all U.S. carrier models of its barely-one-year-old 2014 device.
Worse yet, Motorola stayed insultingly silent on the subject, without so much as an explanation -- let alone any sort of attempt to make things right with customers who had bought into its "ongoing reliable upgrades" message. It was a slap in the face to those who trusted the company, and even if Motorola recovers and manages to do decently well moving forward, it's an incident smartphone shoppers would be wise to remember.
They were excellent when it came to 2013 devices...but those were before the Lenovo takeover if I remember correctly
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In the past days the MOTO always says the Verzion Carrier test so long a time,just like droid1/2/3/4 and xt910/926/1030 and so on..
Now its becoming a department of lenovo, i dont think there are still enough development guys who can work with Verzion ones...
So i doubt the 6.0 would finally come with a final-final day or never come out
I really think we won't see it, like the Moto X Play 2014. We'll just get an out-of-the-blue message saying "SORRY". My next phone will be a Nexus, i'm done with Motonovo
Yep, l thinking about a Nexus myself, and see what Project Fi is all about. Sick of Verizon also.
Yea i'm on the same boat as you guys. Nexus may be my next phone.
im still not ready to leave my turbo, i dont need their updates. we have our own right here.
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In the past days the MOTO always says the Verzion Carrier test so long a time,just like droid1/2/3/4 and xt910/926/1030 and so on..
Now its becoming a department of lenovo, i dont think there are still enough development guys who can work with Verzion ones...
So i doubt the 6.0 would finally come with a final-final day or never come out
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In some cases it may be VZW holding things up...but the 2013 Droids received their updates faster than any phones outside of the Nexus devices...
That was in the Google days, and when Moto first started using the near Vanilla builds of Android...
They are still as close to Vanilla as you can get, but what has changed is Lenovo...
So you do the math
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In some cases it may be VZW holding things up...but the 2013 Droids received their updates faster than any phones outside of the Nexus devices...
That was in the Google days, and when Moto first started using the near Vanilla builds of Android...
They are still as close to Vanilla as you can get, but what has changed is Lenovo...
So you do the math
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i think the lenovo has make every dev-guys to run their VIBE rom project，their 2014 device named k3note has already update to mm。
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I think people need to realize it's not motos fault! Talk to Verizon about your updates because Verizon does in fact add their bloat apps which in turn takes longer. Google has in fact release the source code for mm. Just disappoints me to see people hating on moto over something they have little to no control over.
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I think people need to realize it's not motos fault! Talk to Verizon about your updates because Verizon does in fact add their bloat apps which in turn takes longer. Google has in fact release the source code for mm. Just disappoints me to see people hating on moto over something they have little to no control over.
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No, both are equally at fault. If it were only on Verizon then the non Turbo branded quark devices would already be updated.
alex_is_the_1 said:
I think people need to realize it's not motos fault! Talk to Verizon about your updates because Verizon does in fact add their bloat apps which in turn takes longer. Google has in fact release the source code for mm. Just disappoints me to see people hating on moto over something they have little to no control over.
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VZW had no problem pushing the updates for the 2013 Droids...they were the first non-nexus phones to get updates...
Wanna know what the difference was? Those phones were made when Google owned Motorola...our phones are under the control of Lenovo...
I have no love for VZW...and while they may slow things down in many cases, the fact remains...if a quality update is delivered to them, they will push it out...
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Not quite Metfanant the MotoX 2013 got updated quickly but the Droid Maxx/Ultra always lagged way behind.
In the case of the Turbo all of the other major 2014 flagships on Verizon such as G3, Galaxy S5, One M8 have seen updates to Android M. These are also all older devices than Turbo which makes it even worse. The reality is that the overall user experience will be very similar to what we have now but we at least deserve the bug fixes and security patches with the latest OS.
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Not quite Metfanant the MotoX 2013 got updated quickly but the Droid Maxx/Ultra always lagged way behind.
In the case of the Turbo all of the other major 2014 flagships on Verizon such as G3, Galaxy S5, One M8 have seen updates to Android M. These are also all older devices than Turbo which makes it even worse. The reality is that the overall user experience will be very similar to what we have now but we at least deserve the bug fixes and security patches with the latest OS.
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No sir...
The Moto X update to Kit Kat was pushed out starting Nov 19th according to this article...and it was the FIRST to get it...
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013...ryone-by-updating-its-moto-x-to-kitkat-first/
Just a month later the update had finished soak testing and was starting to get pushed to the Droid line...
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/12/1...-4-kit-kat-update-starting-today/#more-127805
I wouldn't call that lagging way behind at all...it was still quicker than most phones...
As I've always said...VZW sucks, but they had no problem getting updates out to Moto devices when Google ran the show...so I blame Lenovo...
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Droid Maxx2 update is rolling out. I guess (hope&prey) we are next in line..
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Droid Maxx2 update is rolling out. I guess (hope&prey) we are next in line..
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Yeah I saw that too, the Maxx 2 came out in Oct and I think this is its first update. I used one briefly but it had screen issues so ended up returning it for another turbo.
Just filled out a droid turbo soak test survey let's hope this is a good sign of things to come
I also received an invitation for this.
I thought I signed up for these, but have never gotten one. I really hope this means we get Marshmallow soon!
I guess they didn't like my feedback from the last soak. I haven't gotten anything.