So, for my birthday, I've wanted a Samsung Galaxy Note 8, but because of the release of the new nexus 7, I'm starting to think that the nexus 7 might be the better choice.
I've mainly wanted the Galaxy note 8 because of that extra inch, and the spen of course.
I think the specs are better in the nexus 7 slightly.
Galaxy note 8 vs Nexus 7 (2013)
189 ppi - 323 ppi (1080p)
338 g - 290g
4600 mAh - 3950 mAh
NA - Wireless charging built-in
Samsung Exynos 4 Quad core, 1600 MHz - Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 Pro, 1.5GHz
ARM Mali-400 MP4 - Adreno 320
Micro SD slot - NA
Both have Bluetooth and wifi
Both have same cameras (front and back)
Both have 2 gigs of ram
$330 (Varying) - $229
Specs are mixed between the two, better screen on Nexus 7, better processor on Galaxy note 8, Better battery on note 8.
I'm currently hooked on the Galaxy note 8 because of the spen, better battery, and bigger screen. but the new nexus 7 is lighter, better screen, price, and it's pure Google, updates first, easier to root.
So from your experience with the nexus 7, please tell me weather I should get it for my birthday, I really don't want to make the wrong choice.
189 ppi on Note is meagre. If the device will be used for viewing media, e.g books and videos than better screen is critical.
I doubt the processor is actually better on the note and the screen is that bad on the note? Really? Nexus all the way
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I doubt the processor is actually better on the note and the screen is that bad on the note? Really? Nexus all the way
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In fact, the processor in the Nexus is FAR better than the one on Note 8 -> it uses 4x cores of Krait A15 instead of the older A9 present in the Note.
Not that the Note's CPU is bad, but you can see this in the many benchmarks popping out these days.
True. The new nexus 7 trumps note 8 processor. Which was discovered to have Krait 300 cores. So although they call it S4 pro, its a variant that's really a lower clocked/lower binned snapdragon 600. Like other poster said, most all new benchmarks popping up are showing that nexus7 is top notch in processing power compared to other android devices and ipad4/mini. Plus it has Andreno 320 GPU.
Clearly.new nexus 7 brings the best bang for buck. If you really into the Spen, note is what u want. For everything else, Nexus7 beats it out.
I have a galaxy note 10.1. Although a nice.feature, I rarely use.the pen. Its a great tablet even.without.the pen. Its your choice though. IMO, I'd say.save the extra cash and get the new nexus7.
I have both and have just started to compare. First impressions in reading this forum with the dark theme (white type on black)
and large font on the nexus and normal font on the note, the black background is dark black on the note and grayish black on the nexus with same brightness level.
The font is just as easy to read and clear on the note. Practically speaking they read the same. But the real black background on the note is more pleasing to my eyes.
Holding each with one hand while reading, the note is more comfortable and feels lighter probably because of the size and balance.
So I this use case I prefer the note.
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In fact, the processor in the Nexus is FAR better than the one on Note 8 -> it uses 4x cores of Krait A15 instead of the older A9 present in the Note.
Not that the Note's CPU is bad, but you can see this in the many benchmarks popping out these days.
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I searched the interwebs for these bench marks, both on quadrant.
The only place where the note 8 is bad in is the freeze issues, because of the touch-whiz lagging it.
I'm not sure if what you were talking about (Krait A15, A9) makes a difference to the benchmarks on quadrant, I believe that the nexus 7 is .1 GHz lower than the Note 8, that may not make a big difference.
Scores:
Nexus 7 (2013): 5501
Note 8: 6848
There's many other benchmarks out there which may vary, but I thought that quadrant would be the best to look at.
I could be noobing out here about processing power and benchmarks, if I am, please correct me.
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I searched the interwebs for these bench marks, both on quadrant.
The only place where the note 8 is bad in is the freeze issues, because of the touch-whiz lagging it.
I'm not sure if what you were talking about (Krait A15, A9) makes a difference to the benchmarks on quadrant, I believe that the nexus 7 is .1 GHz lower than the Note 8, that may not make a big difference.
Scores:
Nexus 7 (2013): 5501
Note 8: 6848
There's many other benchmarks out there which may vary, but I thought that quadrant would be the best to look at.
I could be noobing out here about processing power and benchmarks, if I am, please correct me.
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Just taking one benchmark won't guage power best. Just look at anandtech mini review. He did a very thorough benchmarking. It's enough different benchmarks to show a wider range of where nexus7 power lies at. Actually anandtech has done the most thorough benching yet.
Quadrant alone varies from test to test.
I can tell.you're on.the fence about which one to get. Ask yourself, how badly.do you want that Spen? If new n7 wasn't out, the note8 would be the small tablet to get. I.wanted one..lol
I had this same dilemma when I was in bestbuy but I got the Nexus because there is much more development for the N7 over the samsung tablet. Last year when I was buying the original N7 and the galaxy tab was out also there wasnt much development going on so I went with the N7. Both are great though :good: Just not as much development with the galaxy tabs like the phones
If neither has an sd slot, seems a 32gb N7 2 is the better buy.
I have both right now, and I'm having a really hard time deciding which one to keep. The N7 definitely has better specs, and the Anandtech mini-review removed any doubt about which processor is superior, but the overall experience I'm getting on the Note is the same, if not better. The bigger screen makes the Note really feel like a tablet, whereas to me the N7 just feels like a giant phone. The screen on the N7 is noticeably better when looking at them side by side, but when using the Note by itself it's easy to forget that it's only a 1200x800 display. In terms of weight, the Note is a tad heavier but the difference is negligible. The expandable storage on the Note is also a huge bonus. I'm still trying to decide if I'll use the S-pen; I took it to class the other day and tried to take notes, and while that worked, I'm not sure I won't get sick of it after awhile. My biggest issue with the Note is the price. If they dropped the price on the Note, I would probably keep it, but as of right now the $150 savings I would get by choosing the N7 is really tempting. The N7 also has NFC, wireless charging, and better support from Google. But I hate the N7 form factor, so I don't know what I'm going to do. As I said earlier, I'm having a great experience with the Note, so if price isn't an issue for you, and you could see yourself using the S-pen a lot, then I would recommend the Note.
1280*800 on a 8"? that's pretty bad. the gen1 N7 has the same resolution and you can see some pixelation.
plus the n7 is cheaper. this should be a no brainer unless you REALLY like spen.
Thanks for the detailed post, I'm most likely going to get the note 8 now.
I am 13 years old (yeah, I know, a kid...on XDA) meaning I will be getting the tablet from my parents, if they tell me that the note 8 is a tad to expensive, I will definitely ask them to get the new N7.
I'm not really looking for a whole ton of speed anyway, I will root the device I get, but will mostly be using YouTube, flip board, and possibly other note features if I get it.
Again, thanks for all posts helping me decide which one to get.
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The big thing here is the Nexus 7 will get lots of updates. With KeyLime Pie right around the corner... the Note will lose its luster fast. Plus the Note has a Pen.
Big things to leave out.
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If you plan to use the pen for drawing, note taking, filling out and signing PDF documents, etc. the pen outweighs the higher resolution. As for performance, the Note 10.1 I had was very responsive while the Note 8 is even better. If you don't plan to use the pen then it's a toss-up between the two best 7 to 8" tablets on the market.
For work = Note 8
For Home = Nexus 7
I love the Idea of the S Pen (Have have a Note II currently), I've been wanting and smaller tablet to complement my 10.1" tablet (that currently works but needs a screen replacement, due a crack is making the touch interface very wacky). Like the Idea of an 8" S Pen enabled device and been keeping an enye on the new Nexus 7 recently.
Here are my thoughts on the subject after looking at both:
Galaxy Note 8:
+ S pen (comes in handy though I really don't use it very often on my Note II)
+ 8" screen is a nice size (but makes it a little less portable vs a 7" tablet)
+ Samsung has some nice multi-window features and other customizations on the devices
+ expendable memory with microSD
- Too big with a thick bezel all the way around making for a harder one hand hold.
- Performance is not competitive with newer devices
- More expensive
- lower resolution on a larger screen (not bad but doesn't compare to the new Nexus 7)
- Android update is always slow.
Nexus 7 (2013)
+ Performance best in class in the small tablet form factor at the moment
+ Thinner bezel on the sides makes it easy to hold in portrait mode and bigger bezel on top and bottom gives you a place for you hands in two handed landscape mode.
+ Beautiful 1920x1200 screen that is just AWESOME
+ Fast updates straight from Google
- Smaller 7" display (I do like the size of the 8-inchers)
- No S-pen (though I don't use it as often as I thought, still nice to have)
- No cool multi-window functionality like Samsung adds
- No MicroSD card slot
In the end I decided the I could live without the S Pen, larger display and Samsung added features. The new Nexus 7s display, performance and updates made it an easy choice for me. I already have an S pen enabled phone anyway. I do miss the MicroSD card, where I usually store music, photos and videos, but I never come close to using all the space. I figure 32 GB will suffice.
Today I walked out of Best Buy with a Nexus 7, and no regrets. I love the screen, the resolution is fantastic, and is much smaller than I expected (in a good way). So far it has been FAST and SMOOTH.
Bottom like, if you need or REALLY want the S Pen get the Note 8.... If not the Nexus seven is the best small Android tablet currently available.
GreatLachlan said:
So, for my birthday, I've wanted a Samsung Galaxy Note 8, but because of the release of the new nexus 7, I'm starting to think that the nexus 7 might be the better choice.
I've mainly wanted the Galaxy note 8 because of that extra inch, and the spen of course.
I think the specs are better in the nexus 7 slightly.
Galaxy note 8 vs Nexus 7 (2013)
189 ppi - 323 ppi (1080p)
338 g - 290g
4600 mAh - 3950 mAh
NA - Wireless charging built-in
Samsung Exynos 4 Quad core, 1600 MHz - Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 Pro, 1.5GHz
ARM Mali-400 MP4 - Adreno 320
Micro SD slot - NA
Both have Bluetooth and wifi
Both have same cameras (front and back)
Both have 2 gigs of ram
$330 (Varying) - $229
Specs are mixed between the two, better screen on Nexus 7, better processor on Galaxy note 8, Better battery on note 8.
I'm currently hooked on the Galaxy note 8 because of the spen, better battery, and bigger screen. but the new nexus 7 is lighter, better screen, price, and it's pure Google, updates first, easier to root.
So from your experience with the nexus 7, please tell me weather I should get it for my birthday, I really don't want to make the wrong choice.
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Grab the Note 8...it's a no brainer..don't let anyone tell you differently!
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GreatLachlan said:
So, for my birthday, I've wanted a Samsung Galaxy Note 8, but because of the release of the new nexus 7, I'm starting to think that the nexus 7 might be the better choice.
I've mainly wanted the Galaxy note 8 because of that extra inch, and the spen of course.
I think the specs are better in the nexus 7 slightly.
Galaxy note 8 vs Nexus 7 (2013)
189 ppi - 323 ppi (1080p)
338 g - 290g
4600 mAh - 3950 mAh
NA - Wireless charging built-in
Samsung Exynos 4 Quad core, 1600 MHz - Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 Pro, 1.5GHz
ARM Mali-400 MP4 - Adreno 320
Micro SD slot - NA
Both have Bluetooth and wifi
Both have same cameras (front and back)
Both have 2 gigs of ram
$330 (Varying) - $229
Specs are mixed between the two, better screen on Nexus 7, better processor on Galaxy note 8, Better battery on note 8.
I'm currently hooked on the Galaxy note 8 because of the spen, better battery, and bigger screen. but the new nexus 7 is lighter, better screen, price, and it's pure Google, updates first, easier to root.
So from your experience with the nexus 7, please tell me weather I should get it for my birthday, I really don't want to make the wrong choice.
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I actually returned my note 8 for the nexus 7
I miss the SD card, the extra inch and that's about it
I mostly use tablets for reading and video. Hence, having more dpi was important to me. Plus this thing is super smooth compared with the note 8.
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Oh and, why do you need the sPen so bad? I have never found a good use for it other than being able to scroll while hand were messy, so as not to worry about getting oil on the screen from eating, etc
I hated the resolution in the note 8, this became very evident while trying to read and zooming in on stuff
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Also, the note 8 felt cheap and I already have the s4. It just felt like a bigger s4 with a crappier screen.
I guess i went with nexus 7 becuase I wanted to have a new device that worked differently and wasn't just a bigger screen twin of my s4
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I had the note 8. Returned it for the nexus 7 2013.
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So Ive had my Note 4 for a nice bit, but now its time to stack it up against its in house brothers. Ive got in my stock an AT&T Samsung Galaxy S5 and a Wifi only Note 10.1 2014.
Both are the newest in their segments from Samsung, both packing some pretty great hardware. Lets break down how they compare with a few benchmarks. The two of which I decided to use was 3D Mark and Vellamo.
First I want to go over a brief overview of the specs for the unfamiliar.
Note 10.1 -Wifi only
Screen: 10.1" WQXGA Clear LCD (2560 x 1600), 299 ppi
CPU: Exynos® 5 Octa (1.9GHz Quadcore + 1.3 GHz Quadcore)
GPU: ARM Mali T628MP6 (6 Core)
RAM: 3Gb
Memory: 16GB with 32Gb Class 10 Micro SD
Sprint Note 4
Screen: 5.7” Quad HD Super AMOLED (2560 x1440), 515 ppi
CPU: Snapdragon 805 Quadcore 2.7GHz
GPU: Adreno 420
RAM: 3Gb
Memory: 16Gb with 16Gb Class 10 Micro SD
Galaxy S5
Screen: 5.1” FHD Super AMOLED (1920 x 1080), 432 ppi
CPU: Snapdragon 801 2.5 GHz
GPU: Adreno 330
RAM: 2Gb
Memory: 16Gb with Class 10 Micro SD
I would like to note that all of these devices are stock, used often, and not enhanced from their factory setting in any way.
LETS GET READY TO RUMBLE!
3D Mark:
Note 10.1 This unit scored a number of 13513. I do want to make note that 3D mark has removed the device from caparisons as it was flagged for unfair modification to boost benchmark results. That being said, this turned out to be the runt of the litter despite the Octa-Core CPU in this benchmark.
Note 4 This device scored a whopping 20159 on this benchmark. With superior hardware to its brothers it bests even the iPhone 6 Plus which is scored at a modest 17843 and the iPhone 6 which is ranked even lower at 17307 on 3D Marks comparison charts.
Galaxy S5 This device ranked at a nice 18217. Besting both of Apples newest attempts and bumping along just short of Note 4.
Vellamo
This benchmark measures things a little differently, which I like. It has Browser benchmark, obviously for the borwser(For this I measured the stock Samsung browser and Chrome). It has Multicore which is exactly as it suggests, an advanced multicore benchmark. Lastly, it also has Metal, which measures maximum power of the device.
Note 10.1
Browser:
Samsung Browser: 3524
Chrome: 3214
The Note 10.1 seemed to really blaze along here, both results coming in with hot numbers ranking above HTC's M8.
Multicore The Device ranked a very nice 1570, it show up short of the G3 at 1711 and ahead of the nexus 5 at 1525.
Metal Once again, no disappointment. The device ranked in at 1374 beating out the Nexus 5 (1271) and coming in below the LG G3 (1497).
Galaxy S5
Browser:
Samsung Browser: 3278
Chrome: 2908
Bumping along a little slower than the Note 10.1, still scoring in with some nice results. This however was my daily driver for quite some time so cache and cookies may be hindering some performance here.
Multicore This device scoring a nice 1701, which is just ahead of Vellamo's score for the GS5 at 1647. Chugging along ahead of the Note 10.1 as with the 3D Mark, but not crushing it quite as bad. The Device ranks in just below the G3 as well, and has some significant distance ahead of the Nexus 5.
Metal Scoring an impressive 1518 this device is once again besting Vellamo's score for the GS5 at 1464. It tops everything on their comparison list except for the OnePlus One which ranks at 1653.
Note 4
Browser:
Samsung Browser: 3546
Chrome: 3377
Crushing the competition here, the Note 4 is the clear winner.
Multicore Dropping it like its hot at 1870, this bad boy is killing everything on their list.
Metal Going in for the finishing blow (Que mortal combat announcers "Finish Him") the Note 4 is sitting at staggering 1823. Surpassing the Galaxy S5 by over 300 points in this segment, and the top chart comparison the OnePlus One by 170 points.
With that out of the way, I do want to say benchmarks are not the end all be all. The devices are all great and id recommend all of them to anyone, but I figured this was interesting to see on a numbers game just how they matched up. I recommend reading up into the two benchmarks I used if your interested in testing things out for yourselves. I find them both interesting and they both seem to keep interest in accurate results. Hope you guys enjoyed this! Let me know what you think and feel free to share input you've found along the way!
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Interesting, Chrome is slower on each device. I wish I actually liked the stock browser...
On a side note: is the Quadrant benchmark still a thing? Looks like it hasn't been updated since 2002
I'm torn between getting a Note 4 or the Tablet (Note 10.1). The screen seems to be so much better on the 4 with its almost double ppi. I just think the Tablet would be more useful for the S Pen. Man can't decide lol.
Note 4
chevyhighrider said:
I'm torn between getting a Note 4 or the Tablet (Note 10.1). The screen seems to be so much better on the 4 with its almost double ppi. I just think the Tablet would be more useful for the S Pen. Man can't decide lol.
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I had a choice of brand spankin new Note 5 or a mildy used Note 4 from swappa, Note 4 hands down, Its not as pretty as Note 5 but I always slap a case on my phone anyways. The 64 bit processor in Note 5 is awesome gd investment for future but the Note 4 being 32 bit will be supported till 2020 at least. Removable battery is always required for me, sd slot, ir blaster....I have this thing tweaked every which way...thanks to awesome devs on xda.
chevyhighrider said:
I'm torn between getting a Note 4 or the Tablet (Note 10.1). The screen seems to be so much better on the 4 with its almost double ppi. I just think the Tablet would be more useful for the S Pen. Man can't decide lol.
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Lollipop brightens the screen and makes it clearer as well. Got both the T-Mobile Note 4 and Note 10.1 2014 and Lollipop looks amazing on my tablet, downloaded a beach picture from a website in 2560x1600, and it looks clear. Definitely use the tablet with the spen more than the spen in my phone
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Thanks for the input. Ya pretty sure now that I'm going to use my money for a tablet not a phone. I just wish Samsung had or will have something to replace my Note 8.
what's a good benchmarking test aside from quadrant?