Nexus 7 (2013) tablet install in the dash
I've pondered this install for over 2 years and finally decided to go ahead with the install.
I had originally upgraded the sound system in car by pulling out the stock Nakamichi Head Unit (a couple of years ago) and replaced all the wiring, speakers etc with decent components - Mid and tweeter (separates)- Focal speakers in the front door and a 13 inch Focal sub in the trunk. I focused this upgrade for an SQ setup and did not install any speakers in the rear on purpose. For amps, I used two Zapco's (one for the fronts and one for the subwoofer)
I installed a Pioneer AVIC-D1 navigation/Head Unit and also installed tons of sound deadening all over the doors, trunk etc.
Fast forward to today and here is my new setup - since I had upgraded the wiring and speakers already, I focused this build on the Tablet install and a new HU that connected to my upgraded wiring. I then connected the tablet via the USB DAC (the Microstreamer unit) to the Head Unit aux input for audio out to the car speakers/amps. This simplified my install as I only needed to focus on the tablet install and the new Head Unit Install. Needless to say I ripped out the Pioneer unit for this install.
I flashed Timur's kernel ( https://timur.mobi/timurs-kernel-n7-2013/ ) for a fixed install as its perfect for these types of installs - the tablet goes into a deep sleep mode when accessory power is shut off and it loses very little charge overnight (roughly about 1 - 2 % per 10 hours). As soon as you turn on the car, the tablet senses power has been applied and the screen comes on immediately. So even though my install allows me to remove the tablet from the car, I don't really have to remove it. It comes on immediately when the car is turned on and goes off (deep sleep) when the car is turned off. You don't need to setup any complicated (for me anyway) tasker routines to take care of this. I then connect my tablet to my Note 3's hot spot for Internet access.
I had the install done professionally - the custom fabrication of the tablet and Head Unit mount. That was really the main part of this install by Ultra Auto Sound in Mississauga, Ontario ( http://ultraautosound.com/tag/nexus/ ) . They did an excellent job as you can see from the pics on their website and below. Thanks Joe!
I haven't been able to get the backup camera to work yet with the tablet as my understanding of how it works with the tablet was not thorough enough and I need to do some more reading to figure it out properly.
Here are the parts I bought:
Nexus 7 (2013) tablet ofcourse
Head Unit - Kenwood eXcelon KDC-X998 CD Receiver with built in BT and HD radio - its one of the better Head Units on the market right now ( http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00I8S6B86?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00 )
USB Hub - DLink 7 port USB hub ( http://www.amazon.ca/D-Link-DUB-H7B...d=1439314404&sr=8-1&keywords=DLink+7+port+USB )
USB DAC - HRT microStreamer ( http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B4YE5BG?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00 )
Backup Camera - TaoTronics TT-CC17 Waterproof Color CMOS Car Licence plate backup camera ( http://www.amazon.ca/TaoTronics-TT-CC17-Waterproof-License-Distance/dp/B0092YMZJY )
USB Video capture card - VGB100 USB 2.0 Video Capture Device card ( http://www.amazon.com/August-VGB100...ords=VGB100+USB+2.0+Video+Capture+Device+card )
Bluetooth remote for audio controls - SatechiĀ® Bluetooth Button ( http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00RM75NL0?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00 )
USB Flash drive - SanDisk Extreme 64GB USB 3.0 Flash Drive ( http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00KT7DOSE?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00 )
Micro USB OTG cable and charger - (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00S67XK7Y?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00)
USB 2.0 A-Male to A-Female extension cables for charging my Note 3 and my wifes Note 2 while in the car ( http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00NH11R3I?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00 )
OBD2 BT dongle. This allows me to display a bunch of information on the Dash Command app (shown in a couple of pics below with the LFA "skin"). You can also read any error codes without paying an arm and a leg to the dealer.
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USB Hub with the USB Digital Audio Controller (HT Microstreamer), USB Flash Drive and Video Grabber for the backup camera
DashCommand for car diagnostics and other info via OBD2 BT dongle. This is the LFA "skin'
Waze maps and close up of the Kenwood KDC-X998 Head unit
Close up of the tablet mount
Close up of the Satechi BT audio controller
Some more pics
Some random pics of the car:
The install looks great. Good job. I've got a 2011 GMC Sierra that I've installed my Nexus 7 (2013) in the dash. Turns out that the double din after market head unit adapter plates opening is just a hair bigger than the actual LCD. ( not the whole tablet but just the LCD). So I was able to use it with the Nexus mounted to the back of the adapter plate so that it fits tight against it covering the edges of the tablet and only leaving the LCD exposed. I'll take some pics and upload them soon. Good job on yours. Love seeing how others went about their install.
nice built but may I ask, is it really needed to add an usb dac to the instalation process if I am runing audio from the tablet with 3.5mm audio jack cable to the car's player aux ?
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The install looks great. Good job. I've got a 2011 GMC Sierra that I've installed my Nexus 7 (2013) in the dash. Turns out that the double din after market head unit adapter plates opening is just a hair bigger than the actual LCD. ( not the whole tablet but just the LCD). So I was able to use it with the Nexus mounted to the back of the adapter plate so that it fits tight against it covering the edges of the tablet and only leaving the LCD exposed. I'll take some pics and upload them soon. Good job on yours. Love seeing how others went about their install.
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Thanks. I love the setup as is and the audio shop that installed it recommended mine be setup (the mount) like this because of my requirement of wanting to be able to unplug it or get to the buttons for whatever reason. I personally prefer the look that you went for where the tablet is behind a plate as that looks more OEM than mine.
Mine looks so obviously like a tablet on the dash even though the quality of the audio shop's custom mount is good, it still doesn't look like an OEM screen (when its behind a plate).
My installer said it would be more expensive to mount it behind a custom opening and also make it removable at the same time, hence the end result you see here.
Looking forward to seeing pics of your setup!
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nice built but may I ask, is it really needed to add an usb dac to the instalation process if I am runing audio from the tablet with 3.5mm audio jack cable to the car's player aux ?
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No you don't have to do what I did especially if you are not pulling out your stock stereo.
great ! thanks !
This is awesome and has inspired me to create my own Nexus 7 setup. Great stuff!
how did you make the august vgb100 work with the nexus , I bought it and the tablet couldn't recognize it.
Hi, could you share related .dxls file. I searched for LFA skin, bu it dosent look exactly like yours ?
Thanks.
EDIT: Sorry, I found lots of LFA skins, its ok!
What app are you using as the "dash" app for nav and such. Looks very android auto'y
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What app are you using as the "dash" app for nav and such. Looks very android auto'y
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Automate
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Beautiful, thanks!
how is the install holding up... Im getting ready to do a similar set up with a 99 gs300
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how is the install holding up... Im getting ready to do a similar set up with a 99 gs300
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Its holding up fine.
I could never get the backup camera working and that bugs me.
I'm having second thoughts about the whole system now and want to get an Android Auto HU such as this one - http://www.crutchfield.com/S-Xvsy2Zazrje/p_1304200NEX/Pioneer-AVH-4200NEX.html
What is your budget and requirement for the install of a tablet in your car? The obvious ones in terms of requirements are Phone calling/receiving, Navigation and listening to your music collection. Any others you have?
If your budget can swing for the unit above - it has very good reviews, I would just do that instead.
CayenneGTS said:
Its holding up fine.
I could never get the backup camera working and that bugs me.
I'm having second thoughts about the whole system now and want to get an Android Auto HU such as this one - http://www.crutchfield.com/S-Xvsy2Zazrje/p_1304200NEX/Pioneer-AVH-4200NEX.html
What is your budget and requirement for the install of a tablet in your car? The obvious ones in terms of requirements are Phone calling/receiving, Navigation and listening to your music collection. Any others you have?
If your budget can swing for the unit above - it has very good reviews, I would just do that instead.
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my main reason for the tablet diy is to play my music folders... I make them every other week... with new content... then of course navigation (google)... web browser right in the car if im parked in a parking lot waiting for her to come back....and the other obvious extras n perks.... I think this is more for me than the pioneer... I was looking into that first.... and decided i wanted more hands on experience with a tablet and able to customize as well.... did you use a custom dash kit bezel... how about the wire harness what did you use.... Im thinking of just doing a simple aux wire from the top of the nexus to the aux input in an aftermarket radio
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my main reason for the tablet diy is to play my music folders... I make them every other week... with new content...
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Check. Android Auto lets you play the music from your phone.
then of course navigation (google)...
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Check. Android Auto does that from your phone
web browser right in the car if im parked in a parking lot waiting for her to come back
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When you're parked, just do this from the phone. You don't need a tablet for this.
....and the other obvious extras n perks....
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What obvious extras and perks are you referring to specifically?
I think this is more for me than the pioneer... I was looking into that first.... and decided i wanted more hands on experience with a tablet and able to customize as well....
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Hand ons experience using a tablet? I don't follow what you mean by this statement. I had the same expectations when I didn't have the tablet in the car. Android Auto looked so limiting. However I've had a change of heart after using a tablet in the car for about a year now and then trying out Android Auto for a week in a rental while I was on vacation two weeks ago. Hands down, the tablet route in the dash is not worth it. Its so much simpler and cleaner (both in looks and functions of the Android Auto unit) to install the Pioneer Android Auto unit I linked above. I'm going to go that route next summer.
I got used to the Backup Camera on the Android Auto HU and and I can't replicate that on the Tablet in the dash. You don't have to worry about the tablet being charged all the time so that you can actually use it in the car without having to take it out and charge it if you haven't driven your vehicle for a few days (perhaps this does not apply to you if your GS is a DD. Mine isn't and the battery drain on the tablet is a major PITA).
did you use a custom dash kit bezel... how about the wire harness what did you use.... Im thinking of just doing a simple aux wire from the top of the nexus to the aux input in an aftermarket radio
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Yes, the audio shop custom fabricated the bezel kit and the wiring harness goes in the Kenwood HU that I already specified in my first post on this thread. I then connect the tablet via the OTG cable to a Digital Audio Converter to get better sound and then connect that to the HU AUX port - you can also see that in the pics I posted.
CayenneGTS said:
Check. Android Auto lets you play the music from your phone.
Check. Android Auto does that from your phone
When you're parked, just do this from the phone. You don't need a tablet for this.
What obvious extras and perks are you referring to specifically?
Hand ons experience using a tablet? I don't follow what you mean by this statement. I had the same expectations when I didn't have the tablet in the car. Android Auto looked so limiting. However I've had a change of heart after using a tablet in the car for about a year now and then trying out Android Auto for a week in a rental while I was on vacation two weeks ago. Hands down, the tablet route in the dash is not worth it. Its so much simpler and cleaner (both in looks and functions of the Android Auto unit) to install the Pioneer Android Auto unit I linked above. I'm going to go that route next summer.
I got used to the Backup Camera on the Android Auto HU and and I can't replicate that on the Tablet in the dash. You don't have to worry about the tablet being charged all the time so that you can actually use it in the car without having to take it out and charge it if you haven't driven your vehicle for a few days (perhaps this does not apply to you if your GS is a DD. Mine isn't and the battery drain on the tablet is a major PITA).
Yes, the audio shop custom fabricated the bezel kit and the wiring harness goes in the Kenwood HU that I already specified in my first post on this thread. I then connect the tablet via the OTG cable to a Digital Audio Converter to get better sound and then connect that to the HU AUX port - you can also see that in the pics I posted.
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yea i checked it out.... and its great... I would just go with the nexus for now and see how my budget changes next year... for now I'm trying to stay under 200... do I have to get a dac/ microstreamer or can i just plug it from the 3.5mm headphone jack straight into my aftermarket radio aux input... what do you think?
So, did you switch, or are you now happy that you can run android auto straight from your tablet?
I am trying to find if Android Auto has any problems running from an Android headunit such as the Joying units. Otherwise, I would love to see if a nexus 9 could work in my Ram.
Having used tablets, android auto (pioneer and kenwood HU), and joying HU I think I can offer a lot of insight here.
For starters the tablet is still hands down the best carPC you can get. It simply does everything you want it to do without any sacrifices, and tends to look the most clean as well. The reflexive matte screens on android auto HU's are just dull and boring overall, but beyond that their performance is abysmal and android has been completely crippled on these devices in the name of safety. You cant reliably browse for music, the UI/search/scroll functions in the supported music apps block you from doing too much to keep your eyes on the road, and they all require you to plug your phone in which is just a PITA every time you get in your car.
I dont know about you but I dont like having a phone in my cup holder, glovebox, center console, or on some chintzy grip mounted to the dash. It's just ugly, the wires are ugly, and having an additional screen + wires dangling about just breaks the symmetry of a nice clean A/V setup. Using a tablet with hotspot is so much more elegant. The Nexus 7 will charge faster than it drains on any car accessory charging port (cigarette charger) so it should be nearly 100% all the time while you drive. If this car isnt your daily driver then why are you putting a tablet install in it? lol. Ultimately the Android Auto head units are manufactured by companies that just have no experience in this area and are prone to bugs and other anomalies. The entire experience just felt gimped.
As for Joying HU, while the concept is admirable the execution is flawed. Their biggest issue is just poor hardware. You just cannot squeeze an entire Android equipped OS with proper hardware and all the other stuff required to make a functional HU for the prices they are asking. If a tablet alone costs as much as their entire HU then imagine what kind of processor theyre sticking inside these things. While it worked overall, the dang thing has to BOOT UP every time you start your car. This might be tolerable on cold winter mornings where you might sit in your driveway for 5 minutes anyway, but for most other occasions it's just annoying not being able to get your music/waze configured until you've drive a couple of miles, or to just sit there aimlessly tapping your fingers waiting for it to start.
Also due to such poor hardware in the Joying units multi-tasking becomes a chore. CPU/GPU intensive apps like waze are laggy, multi-tasking between your music app is frustrating, and you forget doing things like split screen viewing. The only advantage these have is the ability to integrate with a backup camera, of which I have no need for since I know how to reverse my car without running over a fire hydrant.
A pioneer/kenwood HU might have superior audio internals, but you have to remember the source audio is usually coming from a streaming app which is going to be 128kbps or less anyway so youll never properly exploit all that great audio technology anyway. A simple 3.5mm to aux-in adapter works beautifully and produces good sound on any HU. I never bothered with DAC's or other ways to convert audio, just get a solid single-DIN HU and the aux-in will be fine for all but the purist audiophiles. Even among those types there is still no desire to use Android Auto since it feels like you're using a 1st gen smart phone from 2000.
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Guyz, need ur honest opinion/idea here :help:
i'm thinking to install this 7" monitor in my car (USD110), and plug it with my Touch Pro via TV-Out cable .. so the video appears on the screen and the audio comes out from my car speakers..
The purpose is, so i can use my TP in-car with larger screen and better view
- Garmin Mobile XT GPS navigation (actually this is my main purpose)
- Google Maps Satellite Image n Street navigation
- internet surfing
- watch video
- listen to mp3
- play games (for my kids)
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actually i'm stealing this guy's idea.. looks cool and useful
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjnABOFkJZw
So what do guyz think? is it not worth..? i can see more pro's than cons.. here are some cons that i've thought about:
- TP battery will suffer especially if long distance traveling (even we can charge battery while using the TV-out cable)
- internet surfing only when my car is idling ... how to surf if driving 60mph?! :shock:
There might be more +ve or -ve consequences, so i need ur honest opinions especially those who have tried and used it before.. Thanks in advance
Should work only problem is your Touch Pro is 4:3 and that's a 16:9 screen so you will either have a stretched image or black bars at the sides....
Infact now I see it says only 234 pixes high that's rubbish!
i use my Fuze on my iva-w505 all the time for gps, but i always want to touch the w505's screen to make changes.... then i have to grab the fuze to do it.
for gps... i say get something dedicated, for everything else... the touch pro should be perfect.
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Should work only problem is your Touch Pro is 4:3 and that's a 16:9 screen so you will either have a stretched image or black bars at the sides....
Infact now I see it says only 234 pixes high that's rubbish!
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i'm noob in pixel resolution etc.. whats the best pixel for 7" screen?
I haven't checked if the TV out image goes off when you hit the power button to turn off the screen on the touch pro, but in my setup in my car i have my TP on a mount with some audio/power cable from ebay going into my center console. From there i wired an extra cig lighter off the cig lighter feed wires and plugged in a car charger to the audio/power cable as well as the audio to my aux on my stereo.
When I'm using it to listen to music if i need to charge it i just turn the screen off and it actually charges while still playing, so maybe it'll work the same way for the set up you're trying to do? This is all assuming the TV out doesn't shut off when you put the phone into standby.
According to that screen its 960x234 whereas the native resolution for TP is 640x480, so you would get a stretched screen, i tried it on my 46" lcd in the living room and it wasn't pretty.
I like using my Fuze connected to my Pioneer AVIC F700bt. Like someone else mentioned you have to tap the small screen on the Fuze to navigate it. There is a thread I found on mp3car.com that linked back to XDA talking about making the Fuze a usb host. If that becomes successful then we might be able to use an external touchscreen to contol our devices.
Until then, I'm gonna order a bluetooth mouse to control the Fuze easily with one hand instead of trying to tap small buttons on its screen with my fat fingers.
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While I like the idea you got going on... you're really not benefiting at all except maybe for GPS use.
The lack of a touch screen on the 7" sucks. If i have to hold the phone in my hand and look AT the phone to maneuver around... I might as well just use the phone with a windshield mount.
Don't they make a 7" touchscreen monitor that you can actually use to control the phone entirely? I remember some guy doing this for the Axim x51v.
Anyone made any progress with this sort of idea?
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I like using my Fuze connected to my Pioneer AVIC F700bt. Like someone else mentioned you have to tap the small screen on the Fuze to navigate it. There is a thread I found on mp3car.com that linked back to XDA talking about making the Fuze a usb host. If that becomes successful then we might be able to use an external touchscreen to contol our devices.
Until then, I'm gonna order a bluetooth mouse to control the Fuze easily with one hand instead of trying to tap small buttons on its screen with my fat fingers.
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i just picked up a Fuze to do this exact same thing with my f700bt. Was thinking of pairing the bluetooth mouse(Logitech v270 seems to work with WM phones) and keyboard(think outside stowaway) as well. My main purpose was really to escape the hassle of installing an external carpc. I do a lot of school and business on the road so this fulfills my needs with the mouse and keyboard added. Also, SLINGBOX
I just installed an AVH-P3100DVD with A/V input in my car today. I'd also like to run the TV-Out cable to use GPS on my screen.
I'm actually searching for the thread now on how to make it and I came across this thread.
just hook up the tv out cable to the fuze multi-adapter and the rca's on the other end to the a/v inputs of the headunit
i have a Pioneer AVH-P4000DVD which i then plug my HTC Fuze into. I use the adapter that came with the phone, and then plug a regular av cable into it. In order for the regular AV cable to work you have to plug the Red cable into the Yellow input, the Yellow Cable into the White input, and the White cable into the Red input.
The video quality is fair, the audio is so so. I use it mainly for my GPS and YouTube videos. Its pretty cool. When using the GPS on my Fuze I can have the sound from my phone come out through the speakers, at this point i cant play music though, but my stereo has a set up which i can use my AV input as my background (no audio just video), which then while allow me to play my ipod/radio/cd whatever with my GPS on the background. check ur manual many of Pioneer come with that option.
the sound that comes from the Fuze has a little static and can be quite annoying if the volume is high i dont know if this is because i am using the adapter and a regular cable.
anyone who has the actual Fuze Tv Out cable hear static?
well i hope this helps.
i would recommend it. it looks really cool and it is very useful when traveling.
Nathalie
well you could wait until the touch pro 2 comes out as that has 16:9 800x480 resolution.
for the external touch screen to work you would need 2 things
1st USB touchscreen kit, these are made for netbooks but most of them have Windows CE drivers on them...
2nd is your phone would require USB host mode but currently few of HTC phones have that.
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just hook up the tv out cable to the fuze multi-adapter and the rca's on the other end to the a/v inputs of the headunit
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I know how, I just thought I remembered someone making their own cable a while ago. I have 2 boxes full of A/V cables here but none of them have the correct jacks on both ends.
I have the TP from verizon, and i have slingbox at home, my kids are able to watch Disney in the van while driving around, not a bad picture, very little lag.
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pcboyy said:
Guyz, need ur honest opinion/idea here :help:
i'm thinking to install this 7" monitor in my car (USD110), and plug it with my Touch Pro via TV-Out cable .. so the video appears on the screen and the audio comes out from my car speakers..
The purpose is, so i can use my TP in-car with larger screen and better view
- Garmin Mobile XT GPS navigation (actually this is my main purpose)
- Google Maps Satellite Image n Street navigation
- internet surfing
- watch video
- listen to mp3
- play games (for my kids)
actually i'm stealing this guy's idea.. looks cool and useful
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjnABOFkJZw
So what do guyz think? is it not worth..? i can see more pro's than cons.. here are some cons that i've thought about:
- TP battery will suffer especially if long distance traveling (even we can charge battery while using the TV-out cable)
- internet surfing only when my car is idling ... how to surf if driving 60mph?! :shock:
There might be more +ve or -ve consequences, so i need ur honest opinions especially those who have tried and used it before.. Thanks in advance
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Yo... That'z Brilliant... I Never Even Thought About Doin That... Might Have To Make Some Stereo Changes In My Car Too!!! Lol I'm Already Blind As A Bat... The Bigger Screen The Better...
It works grate man
I have a Ford Ranger with a kenwood 7in in dash almost just like the one u are looking at and let me tell u garmin works grate. OOOOO by the way all the music u have is gonna sound like u have the band in the back seat with u fliping rocks go for it. P.S. u need to go look at ebay for the av cable that has a charging port u will need it with the gps running. (About 8 bucks U.S.)
Hey guys, I know I should post this on a Wolkswagen forum or something like that, but I think I won't receive replies. You are "the pro's"
I'm about to buy a 2008 Wolkswagen Polo 1.6 sportline.
It mounts stock 2din radio, but I'd like to remove it and mount a tablet like Nexus 7.
Do you know if it is possible and which is the easiest way?
I was thinking about disassembly stock radio and use his body for hold the tablet that is placed in a cover.
That looks like pretty easy, but will the tablet fit there?
How can I connect power supply, audio out and an female USB cable for easily update my track list, my ROM or watch a film through USB device?
Could I use a Bluetooth GPS for use it with gMaps / Waze , right?
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farfetch said:
Hey guys, I know I should post this on a Wolkswagen forum or something like that, but I think I won't receive replies. You are "the pro's"
I'm about to buy a 2008 Wolkswagen Polo 1.6 sportline.
It mounts stock 2din radio, but I'd like to remove it and mount a tablet like Nexus 7.
Do you know if it is possible and which is the easiest way?
I was thinking about disassembly stock radio and use his body for hold the tablet that is placed in a cover.
That looks like pretty easy, but will the tablet fit there?
How can I connect power supply, audio out and an female USB cable for easily update my track list, my ROM or watch a film through USB device?
Could I use a Bluetooth GPS for use it with gMaps / Waze , right?
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As long as your nexus 7 is 3G you could use the navigation.
You can do it but it's going to require a lot of custom work. I would forget about trying to use the stock radio as a holder, you will want to build a custom mount out of fiberglass and metal or MDF. Fiberglass is easy to work with for stuff like that, and when its finished you can sand and paint and clearcoat it and it will look as good as the exterior paint.
You will want to use a kernel like Faux's with USB OTG which allows a Y OTG adapter to be plugged in so you can charge while you have an external storage drive connected, or use a USB mouse and keyboard on one plug while charging the other, etc.
The tricky part is going to be if you want to use the Nexus 7 as your receiver. I'm thinking your best bet is to go with a nice receiver/head unit with bluetooth, and mount it somewhere hidden if you don't want to see it.
The Pioneer App Radio and other similar head units will work with a lot of apps from the play store to communicate apps with your receiver. and vice versa. You could mount it in the dash also, or you could mount a smaller radio without the LCD and everything under the seat or in the glove compartment, and either use the remote or hack the nexus 7/USB to be hardwired.
Check out this guys link. Obviously those statements up above are just suggestions/ideas to get the thinking process started
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Car/AppRadio/AppRadio+2+(SPH-DA100)
I used to have an installation business and build a lot of custom interiors for my own show trucks and for friends and fellow club members, stuff like that. I don't know about the inside of a Nexus 7 and hard wiring it to work with the "brain" of a nice head unit to control the inputs and outputs and tuner and all that business.
But feel free to send me a PM if you want to discuss things I'm familiar with or just brainstorm.
I'm attempting to follow loosely in Kuchar09's footsteps with my stereo upgrade. His thread can be found here.
This is going to be a two-stage install. I'm upgrading the stock sound system's components and then replacing the stock head-unit with a Galaxy Tab 2. I've already started the fabrication necessary but there is a lot more to come. If you'd like to look though my pictures the album can be found here, however I will be linking to the appropriate pictures during my work log.
Components:
Stage 1
Subs: Alpine SWS-10D4[$149.99] x2 (Fiberglass work has started on the rear doors to get these to fit.)
Amp: JBL GTO-5EZ[ $399.99]
Replacement Speakers: Polk Audio db6501[$174.99] & db5251[$189.99]
Stage 2
Front end: Galaxy Tab 2[$329.00]
USB DAC: FiiO E10 USB DAC[$75.99]
USB Mass Storage: HGST Touro Mobile 1TB[$79.99]
Dock: Samsung Universal [$31.81]
Steering Wheel Controls: Joycon EX[$38.01]
USB Hub: D-Link DUB-H7 [$25.60]
Equalizer: Clarion EQS746 [$63.35]
USB OTG: CE Compass[$6.90] (This might be switch out for a couple of these.[$9.99])
Proposed Setup:
Its not easy to draw schematics in forum posts (I might do one by hand and upload) so I'll have to paint a picture "verbally". I want to access music and movies from an external HDD (which is sync'd wirelessly with my NAS (dropbox/dropsync apps)) with my Tab 2. I want the audio from these files to play over my car stereo. There are several methods at my disposal to accomplish this task. The one I'd like to use is having the HDD and DAC connected to the tablet via a powered USB hub. Audio information will flow (hopefully) along this path: HDD > hub > Tab 2 > hub > DAC > EQ > Amp > Speakers/Subs. If I can't achieve USB audio I'll attempt to utilize the line out on my dock or, failing that, bluetooth.
Notes:
I hope to get the majority of the system working out of the car before I start the install. I'll need to purchase a power supply for the EQ and Amp. My tacoma has a built in inverter which I'll be taking advantage of for the AC components. I have a lot of work to do still on the sub woofer enclosures and plenty of fiberglass cure time to test my set up.
Day 01
I've been working with fiberglass all weekend and expect to be at it the rest of the week. The "bottom" of my sub enclosures are pretty ugly and they'll probably stay that way. I'll be using pipe insulation to help form an appealing curve around the edges. It was a cheap and I'm fairly confident I could dissolve it with gasoline if it got stuck inside the enclosure. I've been monitoring my volume and I'm on track to hit the cubic foot requirements of the subwoofers (0.54-0.89 cu. ft). I'm glad that I prefer sealed boxes because the ported enclosure requirement is nearly double and I couldn't find that much room inside the door if I wanted. I'm sure the Crutchfield guys could though judging by how neatly they packed my stereo components.
Stage 1 Components:
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I'm fixing to leave for work but when I return I will be attempting to get the HDD, Tab 2, and DAC to play nice together. Wish me luck.
Back from work and working on configuring the tablet to work with a USB DAC. This has been a learning experience. I've tried flashing to a more USB friend kernel but to no avail. I'm seriously considering switching to a Nexus 7 at this point.
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DUDE you WAY OVERPAID buying all the stuff from Crutchfield, Hell I have those same db6501 components and I got them off amazon for like 107, and I just checked a few prices and I could get those subs for like 85 a piece (with shipping) and the other polks (the 5xxx) ones are right about a 100 bucks.
Your "stage 1" from Crutchfield adds up to $1,064.95 if you bought off Amazon it would of been $644.69 thats $420.26 difference in price man, Hell even if you don't buy car audio from Amazon you could could have bought the amp from Crutchfield gone to OnlineCarStereo.com (a place I used to go before I found the better prices of Amazon) to get the speakers and even with overpaying for the amp you would still only be like $826 for your "stage 1" costs.
But more importantly, WHY are you putting your subs in your rear doors and not like under the rear seats or just saying screw the rear seats and doing a proper ported enclosure?
If the dac don't work go with the line in, keep it up!
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It seems very hard process though .. Keep up
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He's completely integrating it which is a great idea.
Where as I'm making it easily dockable and removable so I can use my tab 2 10.1 still.
I just have to order the brodit holder now, possibly get a small good quality dac, and/or I'll get a good quality 3.5 Jack to 3.5 Jack line
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He's completely integrating it which is a great idea.
Where as I'm making it easily dockable and removable so I can use my tab 2 10.1 still.
I just have to order the brodit holder now, possibly get a small good quality dac, and/or I'll get a good quality 3.5 Jack to 3.5 Jack line
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I have yet to come up with how I want to mount mine, but i'll be like your planning. It will "dock" into the car and can be removed easily, for now my tab sits in the passenger seat and is connected by a 3.5mm male to male cable to the aux in on my head unit, a much easier install for sure.
Another thing you could do if you have the money is go to a custom audio/video Car Store and ask them if they know anyone who can do custom front shells.
And make sure to mention that you want it dockable.
A custom shell (where the head unit, controls for air con etc etc are)
Will cost between $200 to *%+ depending on the car you have
But they look amazing.
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In to see how you do this. Personally, like DarkKrypt, I'd want mine to be dockable. @DarkKrypt, do you have a thread with your install?
Actually no, ill be getting a basic holder and I'll start a thread.
Money and time are my dilemmas currently to not do a custom shell
Maybe in the future.
But I'll post pics and vids anyway of my simple secure setup.
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I'm attempting to follow loosely in Kuchar09's footsteps with my stereo upgrade. His thread can be found here.
This is going to be a two-stage install. I'm upgrading the stock sound system's components and then replacing the stock head-unit with a Galaxy Tab 2. I've already started the fabrication necessary but there is a lot more to come. If you'd like to look though my pictures the album can be found here, however I will be linking to the appropriate pictures during my work log.
Components:
Stage 1
Subs: Alpine SWS-10D4[$149.99] x2 (Fiberglass work has started on the rear doors to get these to fit.)
Amp: JBL GTO-5EZ[ $399.99]
Replacement Speakers: Polk Audio db6501[$174.99] & db5251[$189.99]
Stage 2
Front end: Galaxy Tab 2[$329.00]
USB DAC: FiiO E10 USB DAC[$75.99]
USB Mass Storage: HGST Touro Mobile 1TB[$79.99]
Dock: Samsung Universal [$31.81]
Steering Wheel Controls: Joycon EX[$38.01]
USB Hub: D-Link DUB-H7 [$25.60]
Equalizer: Clarion EQS746 [$63.35]
USB OTG: CE Compass[$6.90] (This might be switch out for a couple of these.[$9.99])
Proposed Setup:
Its not easy to draw schematics in forum posts (I might do one by hand and upload) so I'll have to paint a picture "verbally". I want to access music and movies from an external HDD (which is sync'd wirelessly with my NAS (dropbox/dropsync apps)) with my Tab 2. I want the audio from these files to play over my car stereo. There are several methods at my disposal to accomplish this task. The one I'd like to use is having the HDD and DAC connected to the tablet via a powered USB hub. Audio information will flow (hopefully) along this path: HDD > hub > Tab 2 > hub > DAC > EQ > Amp > Speakers/Subs. If I can't achieve USB audio I'll attempt to utilize the line out on my dock or, failing that, bluetooth.
Notes:
I hope to get the majority of the system working out of the car before I start the install. I'll need to purchase a power supply for the EQ and Amp. My tacoma has a built in inverter which I'll be taking advantage of for the AC components. I have a lot of work to do still on the sub woofer enclosures and plenty of fiberglass cure time to test my set up.
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I'm want to do the same with my Galaxy Tab 2, but I can't find a OTG cable to charge the tablet simultaneous!
Can you help me?
Thanks
Hello all,
I'm sort of new to a lot of this stuff. Especially car audio.
With that said, I'm planning on mounting a nexus 7 in my truck soon, preferably this weekend. I've done a lot of research and read a lot of threads all across the internet. This is where I've decided to ask the questions that remain...
So to start off I've got a 05 Silverado 2500 with a double din stock radio.
Theoretically the nexus 7 should fit, as I've seen it in a video; in a GM vehicle with the same dash and what not.
Next, the main problem/question for me is with regards to powering it. The simplest answer I've found is
saying
Yes, ignition->relay-> 12v 3A usb converter-> usb hub -> Nexus 7/DAC/USB Storage/Joycon Steering wheel controller
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I need to know if it truly is that simple.
I've already located what wires I want to use for the power source(a sunroof wire that's live for 10 seconds after the ignition is turned off, even though I don't have a sunroof it is still there) and I've figured out how to deal with the relay... But from there will the usb hub on work right? Initially all I plan on powering is the nexus 7 with a DAC(I've read USB is best?) and a flash drive. I don't have an amp, do I need one for a DAC to work right, it seems like everyone else has one? Again, I don't know car audio and's new ground for me.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks guys,
-Lane
I have purchased an Xtrons PF75ATTA. As I understand this information is some what useless so other information includes (MCU Version: MTCD_GS_V1.75_1 and Build Number: rk3188).
As I am sure most owners of similar headunits find even basic technical support is some what limited. So to my question
On the back of the unit I have a 8 pin connector titled D: split machine 3 ipod. In the factory settings it says ipod = yes. and there is an ipod app as part of the stock rom.
xtrons tell me the unit doesn't support ipod but I get the impression that is not the end of it. The back of the unit looks identical to other units and the cable for a pimpkin hu device looks like the cable I need (Unfortunately I am to much of a noob to be trusted to post links at the moment). So I guess my questions are as follows
1. Does anyone else have a unit which specifies it doesn't support Ipod yet has ports for it (other than USB)
2. Has anyone successfully got this working?
3. If so where did you get your cable from or did you make it?
4. If you made it what were the pinouts?
Thanks
i could never get an iPod to work right on my Joying and when I posted on the Joying forum, seemed like no one else could get it to work either.
Prior to getting the Joying, I was emailing with RoadNavi.com's support about the S160 series, and they also said their units didn't really work with an iPod
CadillacMike said:
i could never get an iPod to work right on my Joying and when I posted on the Joying forum, seemed like no one else could get it to work either.
Prior to getting the Joying, I was emailing with RoadNavi.com's support about the S160 series, and they also said their units didn't really work with an iPod
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With your joying did you have a specific ipod cable with ipod connector on one end and proprietary connector on the other end or were you using a standard ipod to usb connector and plugging it into the usb port? This can't be that difficult to do. My old Parrot Asteroid did it with no problems.
i used an iPod Classic with a 30 pin connector. I had a 30 pin to USB cord that worked fine in 2 different cars. I tried that on both the USB cords with no luck.
Road Navi does have an iPod specific plug and cable, but they said it didn't work right either
Yes, I can understand why a standard ipod 30 pins usb connector may not work. Can anyone share there experiences with a hui fei unit with dedicated ipod port and cable. Does it work as expected?
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Yes, I can understand why a standard ipod 30 pins usb connector may not work. Can anyone share there experiences with a hui fei unit with dedicated ipod port and cable. Does it work as expected?
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From what I have researched so far :- (Feel free to add or correct me) -
Standard IPOD Classic 6th gen works fine with the current Honda head units, which are still in the dark ages and running a Honda version of Android 6. !! (heavily LOCKED down so that nothing can be added with rooting)
Same device does NOT run on a Eonon GA2170B, running Android 8, even though the IPOD app is pre-installed, even when IPOD support that is turned off by default in Factory setting, is turned back on.
Turning on Ipod support still does allow Ipod Classic 6th gen to communicate with the installed Ipod App.
From what I have read, this is because the Eonon GA2170B is Android 8, and the "old" Ipod firmware is not compatible with the later Android versions.
There are Firmware alternatives for the Ipod (either permanent of via a dual boot), that claim to make the Ipods work with Android 8, with varying success, depending on the Model Ipod.
I have chosen to not mess with my Ipod, but rather to copy all its music onto a Mico SD card (or USB stick), and then use that in the Eonon unit with a suitable player, that can select Title, Album, Song, Artist from the Mp3's meta data.
Some many advantages of this are:
(a) Music is always in the Car,
(b) Ipod is NOT in the Car, getting HOT (or stolen)
(c) No need to worry about charging the Ipod.
(d) Far easier to add additional music (ITunes sucks )
I did find an OLD IPOD emulation Player app, that had a user Interface looking like the Classic Apple Ipod UI, but it was no longer on the Play Store, and when I got it from the author's website (5+ year old ), it also did not run on the Eonon Androis 8 unit.
BTW: My Eonon GA2170B is advertised as having 3 USB ports, but in fact it has 4 !
1 standard USB Port on the Back = USB 1
2 additional ports on a plug in cable to back = USB 2 & USB 3
1 Port on the front ( next to the front Mini SD port) USB 4
So, plenty of Ports to add USB storage devices with Music on them !!