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Hello everyone so I'm doing a full dash replacement. Done a lot of research. I just want to make sure this is pretty much how it goes ? If someone wouldn't mind posting it that would be fantastic. Thanks!
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Not my favorite way of doing it but that will work. Don't forget in line fuses where needed.
I never understood the need for hubs and sticks. I mean I have terabytes of music but it's more of a collection and archive. I only listen to a couple of albums at a time so my internal 32gb is more than enough for me. Wireless charging is so much more cleaner. That's just my opinion though.
Take pics of your process along the way and do a build thread as it might help someone else out later.
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Not my favorite way of doing it but that will work. Don't forget in line fuses where needed.
I never understood the need for hubs and sticks. I mean I have terabytes of music but it's more of a collection and archive. I only listen to a couple of albums at a time so my internal 32gb is more than enough for me. Wireless charging is so much more cleaner. That's just my opinion though.
Take pics of your process along the way and do a build thread as it might help someone else out later.
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Please explain better what needs to be changed. You can wirelessly charge these now? All the installs I saw were from a year or two go. Is there better ways to go about this now? I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks.
There are many ways to accomplish the same thing and what you have will work if that's how you want to do it.
My install is not permanent. I can take out my tablet and take it with me. Even though I have other tablets, I don't like leaving my N7 in the truck. Wireless charging is enabled by default. All you need is the charger. For me, since I can take it out, I can take it in the house and transfer anything I want to it or use Airdroid and transfer anything to it wirelessly. Again, with 32gb, it's more than enough for me.
My audio is streamed wirelessly to a bluetooth module which goes to my RCAs which feed my amps. Because I use JetAudio, I have all my EQ and other settings in the software.
Here are some pics of mine
https://www.facebook.com/TrickedOut...21658036467.1073741951.100002259154742&type=1
if you want your tablet to slowly discharge over time in your dash, wireless is the way to go.
if you actually want to keep your tablet charged while using GPS/data/etc, use a cable.
Not true. With mine, Tasker is used to auto turn on both bluetooth and wifi. My brightness is also turned on to full brightness and set to do a few other things. I have never killed my battery by using it with a wireless charger and I have done a few trips out of town that were a couple of hour trips.
I also use an app called Galaxy Charging Current and you can use it to see you are on the (+) side of charging and not in a deficit
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if you want your tablet to slowly discharge over time in your dash, wireless is the way to go.
if you actually want to keep your tablet charged while using GPS/data/etc, use a cable.
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So let's say minus the car charger part and I didn't a dc dc converter instead wired to a fuse box would that work too? Do I need a new radio harness for my car ?
And also do I need to know what channel amp I need ? I want to keep stock speakers but know I need an amp for the dac, can I use just a mono block ?
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So let's say minus the car charger part and I didn't a dc dc converter instead wired to a fuse box would that work too? Do I need a new radio harness for my car ?
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I bought a DC cig lighter USB plug, gutted it and used the inerds to connect to 12v and allow my wireless charger (or any charger) to connect to. The cig lighter is already a fused circuit. If you are running a wire from the battery, then fuse it.
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There are just too many variables for this to answer. You aren't trying to keep the email radio are you? If so, why? The tablet can do radio stations, stored music, movies, Netflix, YouTube, bluetooth calls, ect. Again, I never understood the need for some people to want to keep the OEM head unit.
How many door speakers do you have? Are you going to upgrade them to aftermarket? Any subs? If so, how many?
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I bought a DC cig lighter USB plug, gutted it and used the inerds to connect to 12v and allow my wireless charger (or any charger) to connect to. The cig lighter is already a fused circuit. If you are running a wire from the battery, then fuse it.
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There are just too many variables for this to answer. You aren't trying to keep the email radio are you? If so, why? The tablet can do radio stations, stored music, movies, Netflix, YouTube, bluetooth calls, ect. Again, I never understood the need for some people to want to keep the OEM head unit.
How many door speakers do you have? Are you going to upgrade them to aftermarket? Any subs? If so, how many?
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No I'm not trying to keep oem head unit trying to do full replacement and I don't plan to upgrade door speakers and MAYBE add a sub later
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No I'm not trying to keep oem head unit trying to do full replacement and I don't plan to upgrade door speakers and MAYBE add a sub later
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You could do a 2 channel amp with the 2 left side door speakers wired in parallel and the right side wired the same. Or you could run a 4 channel amp. Or you could run a 5.1 amp for future sub add-on
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You could do a 2 channel amp with the 2 left side door speakers wired in parallel and the right side wired the same. Or you could run a 4 channel amp. Or you could run a 5.1 amp for future sub add-on
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Ok cool so a mono won't work then ? Also I mean what so the best way to wore up the power to allow charging and run my usb hubs ? I saw this dcdc to usb from mini box that people say is the best
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Ok cool so a mono won't work then ? Also I mean what so the best way to wore up the power to allow charging and run my usb hubs ? I saw this dcdc to usb from mini box that people say is the best
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Sure. You could do a mono is you were really serious about it. Not something I would advise because you have no balance or fade control. But assuming your OEM speakers are 4 ohm, you could wire the two on the left side in parallel to get a 2 ohm load and the same with the right side for another 2 ohm load and then wire both sides in series to get a 4 ohm load again and 1 channel.
Or do it backwards and do each side is series to get an 8 ohm load and then wire both together is parallel to get a 4 ohm load. Like I said, lots of ways to get the same results.
DC to DC via USB can be accomplished with any car charger with a USB post. Keep is simple (and cheap). No need for something like an OPUS Solutions DC power supply. (sarcasm)
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Sure. You could do a mono is you were really serious about it. Not something I would advise because you have no balance or fade control. But assuming your OEM speakers are 4 ohm, you could wire the two on the left side in parallel to get a 2 ohm load and the same with the right side for another 2 ohm load and then wire both sides in series to get a 4 ohm load again and 1 channel.
Or do it backwards and do each side is series to get an 8 ohm load and then wire both together is parallel to get a 4 ohm load. Like I said, lots of ways to get the same results.
DC to DC via USB can be accomplished with any car charger with a USB post. Keep is simple (and cheap). No need for something like an OPUS Solutions DC power supply. (sarcasm)
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I appreciate your help first of all. So I guess what would be the easiest way to do this then just a 2 channel or 4? Let me post then and then my next post I'll finally post my supplies with links cause I will be able to.
Nexus 7 2013 32 with t1murs and misc.
Dash kit
90 degree otg - http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00932N46S/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1402804640&sr=8-1
UBS y otg - http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00CXAC1ZW/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1402804685&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40
Usb dac - http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000KW2YEI?pc_redir=1402629036&robot_redir=1
Usb hub - http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003M0NURK/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?qid=1402804775&sr=8-2&pi=SY200_QL40
Flash drive
Power source - http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00D8...qid=1402804854&sr=8-10&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70
Will that charger work ? For everything to run correctly ?
Amp- http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B007AQ2WXU/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?qid=1402804924&sr=8-7&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70
Amp wiring kit
Is there anything else you can think of even really minimal cause what I lauded is literally all I got
With a 2 channel amp, all you will have is ether balance OR fade. Can't have both. If you do a 4 channel you can have both and would be configured with the hardware you use and/or software on the device.
The charger you are looking at will work fine but I would look at this one since it is a rapid charger. I personally own two of these and love them.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/400715271607
Ok I'll change the amp to 4 channel (4$ more ) and is there any better power adapter or will that work perfectly ? I'm just concerned about it charging and also running the Hub along with dac and flash drive
Will I need a radio harness for any reason for my car ?
And are these better power sources ?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0088U6OZY/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1402814900&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B006SU0SX0/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?qid=1402814944&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70
Hi Guys,
Recently put the finishing touches to my Nexus 7 install so thought i'd share some pics.
Im running 5.0.2 lollipop and Timur Kernel, with the following attached;
OTG Cable - http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00B5T4A60?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00
Powered 4 port usb hub - http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00ICZL3KG?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s02
Behringer USB DAC - http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000KW2YEI?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s01
256gb External SSD - http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00JQRB0I4?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
Generic DVB-T usb stick and SDR Radio - http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B009VBUYA0?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00 - used these 2 adapters to enable me to use the car aerial, works a treat - http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00F347YA2?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00 & http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00118YG5K?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00
Alpine 4 Channel Amplifier - http://www.caraudiocentre.co.uk/product_m-alpine-bbx-f1200_p-32324.htm
Audio Volume is controlled with this - http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00RM75NL0?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00
Power supply is from a 2amp (5v) cigarette usb socket, which is wired up behind the dash and not using the original cigarette socket in centre console.
I installed the amp under the passenger seat and run all the cabling under the carpet and out, where needed, behind the facia panel, the dac is also situated there and i ran the usb hub into the glovebox. You literally cannot see any wiring bar in the glovebox as i wanted to maintain a stock look throughout the car as best i could, everything is also revertable back to stock if the need ever arises, the only thing i had to do was screw the amp into the carpet under the seat, but the small holes left would never be seen anyway.
The facia panel was designed and made by a lad named reece who runs http://www.rtafabrication.com/ - top bloke and did an amazing job and the finish and quality of the panel is top notch. I went for a wired dash panel but he can also do wireless panels too!!! - if your thinking of a car install contact him to see if he can design a facia panel for your vehicle.
android apps i use
poweramp,
sat nav is navfree
video is archos Kodi.
As you can see, also for fun have a megadrive emulator with ps4 pad to play games lol. Also can use either torque pro or OBDlink II for my OBD Link LX bluetooth OBD port reader. (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00H9S71LW?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00)
Had an alpine before which was a great piece of kit, but nothing compared to this.
Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCYpLold_jQ&feature=youtu.be
Cookie
Lots of people viewing this thread but no responses. I'll be the first to say AMAZING JOB!! :thumbup: :beer:
I may try this is my wife's Scion xB.. Or my Expedition 4x4.
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Got any videos of it all in action?
Awesome job
I'm planning on doing the same, but not spending as much as you lol. I see so many integrations with android to car, but no discussion.
Great integration btw!
You installed your wheel on the wrong side! A common mistake on these installations
Great Job!
Dis the same on my S2000
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nice job
nicely done looks clean..i,ve istalled mine but not in dash i am using the holder .planning to get it in dash.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-7-2013/general/nexus-7-2013-car-install-looking-t3035967
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You installed your wheel on the wrong side! A common mistake on these installations
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Haha, I see why you did there[emoji23]
I came running once I saw Evo in the title, That's my favorite car of all time, and to do that with a nexus 7 gets me hyped to do the same once I save up for one
Now just get digital car app ....gotta sign up on g+ for it ...
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Nicely done! I'm running a similiar build in my car, using glitch kernel not Timur's. How are you finding Timur's? Reliable? I find glitch occasionally needs rebooting as it fails to mount my USB DAC.
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Nicely done! I'm running a similiar build in my car, using glitch kernel not Timur's. How are you finding Timur's? Reliable? I find glitch occasionally needs rebooting as it fails to mount my USB DAC.
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Hi finally got around the making a video of it running, here is the link and added it to OP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCYpLold_jQ&feature=youtu.be
In terms of Timur ROM reliability, its great and had no issues worth mentioning so far
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Im thinking of buying his rom when i can afford it. But i have it in my car without a usb otg. So the rom is not fully functional to what it can do once i get around to get a usb otg.
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Hi finally got around the making a video of it running, here is the link and added it to OP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCYpLold_jQ&feature=youtu.be
In terms of Timur ROM reliability, its great and had no issues worth mentioning so far
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What the advantages of having Timurs Kernel? I have ElementalX.... Thanks
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What the advantages of having Timurs Kernel? I have ElementalX.... Thanks
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I have never used Elemental X but my understanding of using Timur over any other Kernel was that it uses his own Powerevent Manager app which can do things like wake up when power is applied and deep sleep when power is removed, something i believe Tasker can do. Also not sure if Elexmental X allows simultanious USB hosting and charging + Fast Charging. Supports certain Rear Camera's. Automount of upto 4 FAT32 drives, custom boot animation and shutdown video's, block wakeup alarms. People using other kernel may tell me otherwise but this is what i came up with when researching which to go for.
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Just a question to be sure I understood everything.
Without USB Hub, you plug the OTG cable to the tablet and USB DAC to the USB port. Then the USB DAC is connected to the amp using RCA correct?
Currently my setup is not using a DAC (rca to jack directly connected to the amp) and I have interferences because of that so I'm thinking about using a DAC. Is it natively managed by Android?
Thanks,
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Bingoig11 said:
Just a question to be sure I understood everything.
Without USB Hub, you plug the OTG cable to the tablet and USB DAC to the USB port. Then the USB DAC is connected to the amp using RCA correct?
Currently my setup is not using a DAC (rca to jack directly connected to the amp) and I have interferences because of that so I'm thinking about using a DAC. Is it natively managed by Android?
Thanks,
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Yep that is pretty much it, OTG cable then USB DAC straight into USB port, and connect it to your amp / stereo via Red & White RCA jacks, or as i did - - - - - Nexus 7 - OTG cable - USB Hub (4 port) - USB DAC - AMP
I believe Lollipop handles USB audio natively, anything before needs a kernel to implement it - again if anyone knows different then please let me know
Is audio taken from usb? I didn't think any Android can send audio from the usb? Or is that why I need the OTG-cable?
That looks amazing, stock even, imagine having Andoid auto on there.
Any pics of the evo?
Nexus 7 (2013) tablet install in the dash
I've pondered this install for over 2 years and finally decided to go ahead with the install.
I had originally upgraded the sound system in car by pulling out the stock Nakamichi Head Unit (a couple of years ago) and replaced all the wiring, speakers etc with decent components - Mid and tweeter (separates)- Focal speakers in the front door and a 13 inch Focal sub in the trunk. I focused this upgrade for an SQ setup and did not install any speakers in the rear on purpose. For amps, I used two Zapco's (one for the fronts and one for the subwoofer)
I installed a Pioneer AVIC-D1 navigation/Head Unit and also installed tons of sound deadening all over the doors, trunk etc.
Fast forward to today and here is my new setup - since I had upgraded the wiring and speakers already, I focused this build on the Tablet install and a new HU that connected to my upgraded wiring. I then connected the tablet via the USB DAC (the Microstreamer unit) to the Head Unit aux input for audio out to the car speakers/amps. This simplified my install as I only needed to focus on the tablet install and the new Head Unit Install. Needless to say I ripped out the Pioneer unit for this install.
I flashed Timur's kernel ( https://timur.mobi/timurs-kernel-n7-2013/ ) for a fixed install as its perfect for these types of installs - the tablet goes into a deep sleep mode when accessory power is shut off and it loses very little charge overnight (roughly about 1 - 2 % per 10 hours). As soon as you turn on the car, the tablet senses power has been applied and the screen comes on immediately. So even though my install allows me to remove the tablet from the car, I don't really have to remove it. It comes on immediately when the car is turned on and goes off (deep sleep) when the car is turned off. You don't need to setup any complicated (for me anyway) tasker routines to take care of this. I then connect my tablet to my Note 3's hot spot for Internet access.
I had the install done professionally - the custom fabrication of the tablet and Head Unit mount. That was really the main part of this install by Ultra Auto Sound in Mississauga, Ontario ( http://ultraautosound.com/tag/nexus/ ) . They did an excellent job as you can see from the pics on their website and below. Thanks Joe!
I haven't been able to get the backup camera to work yet with the tablet as my understanding of how it works with the tablet was not thorough enough and I need to do some more reading to figure it out properly.
Here are the parts I bought:
Nexus 7 (2013) tablet ofcourse
Head Unit - Kenwood eXcelon KDC-X998 CD Receiver with built in BT and HD radio - its one of the better Head Units on the market right now ( http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00I8S6B86?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00 )
USB Hub - DLink 7 port USB hub ( http://www.amazon.ca/D-Link-DUB-H7B...d=1439314404&sr=8-1&keywords=DLink+7+port+USB )
USB DAC - HRT microStreamer ( http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B4YE5BG?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00 )
Backup Camera - TaoTronics TT-CC17 Waterproof Color CMOS Car Licence plate backup camera ( http://www.amazon.ca/TaoTronics-TT-CC17-Waterproof-License-Distance/dp/B0092YMZJY )
USB Video capture card - VGB100 USB 2.0 Video Capture Device card ( http://www.amazon.com/August-VGB100...ords=VGB100+USB+2.0+Video+Capture+Device+card )
Bluetooth remote for audio controls - Satechi® Bluetooth Button ( http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00RM75NL0?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00 )
USB Flash drive - SanDisk Extreme 64GB USB 3.0 Flash Drive ( http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00KT7DOSE?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00 )
Micro USB OTG cable and charger - (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00S67XK7Y?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00)
USB 2.0 A-Male to A-Female extension cables for charging my Note 3 and my wifes Note 2 while in the car ( http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00NH11R3I?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00 )
OBD2 BT dongle. This allows me to display a bunch of information on the Dash Command app (shown in a couple of pics below with the LFA "skin"). You can also read any error codes without paying an arm and a leg to the dealer.
Here is the before pic:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
And the current pics:
USB Hub with the USB Digital Audio Controller (HT Microstreamer), USB Flash Drive and Video Grabber for the backup camera
DashCommand for car diagnostics and other info via OBD2 BT dongle. This is the LFA "skin'
Waze maps and close up of the Kenwood KDC-X998 Head unit
Close up of the tablet mount
Close up of the Satechi BT audio controller
Some more pics
Some random pics of the car:
The install looks great. Good job. I've got a 2011 GMC Sierra that I've installed my Nexus 7 (2013) in the dash. Turns out that the double din after market head unit adapter plates opening is just a hair bigger than the actual LCD. ( not the whole tablet but just the LCD). So I was able to use it with the Nexus mounted to the back of the adapter plate so that it fits tight against it covering the edges of the tablet and only leaving the LCD exposed. I'll take some pics and upload them soon. Good job on yours. Love seeing how others went about their install.
nice built but may I ask, is it really needed to add an usb dac to the instalation process if I am runing audio from the tablet with 3.5mm audio jack cable to the car's player aux ?
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The install looks great. Good job. I've got a 2011 GMC Sierra that I've installed my Nexus 7 (2013) in the dash. Turns out that the double din after market head unit adapter plates opening is just a hair bigger than the actual LCD. ( not the whole tablet but just the LCD). So I was able to use it with the Nexus mounted to the back of the adapter plate so that it fits tight against it covering the edges of the tablet and only leaving the LCD exposed. I'll take some pics and upload them soon. Good job on yours. Love seeing how others went about their install.
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Thanks. I love the setup as is and the audio shop that installed it recommended mine be setup (the mount) like this because of my requirement of wanting to be able to unplug it or get to the buttons for whatever reason. I personally prefer the look that you went for where the tablet is behind a plate as that looks more OEM than mine.
Mine looks so obviously like a tablet on the dash even though the quality of the audio shop's custom mount is good, it still doesn't look like an OEM screen (when its behind a plate).
My installer said it would be more expensive to mount it behind a custom opening and also make it removable at the same time, hence the end result you see here.
Looking forward to seeing pics of your setup!
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nice built but may I ask, is it really needed to add an usb dac to the instalation process if I am runing audio from the tablet with 3.5mm audio jack cable to the car's player aux ?
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No you don't have to do what I did especially if you are not pulling out your stock stereo.
great ! thanks !
This is awesome and has inspired me to create my own Nexus 7 setup. Great stuff!
how did you make the august vgb100 work with the nexus , I bought it and the tablet couldn't recognize it.
Hi, could you share related .dxls file. I searched for LFA skin, bu it dosent look exactly like yours ?
Thanks.
EDIT: Sorry, I found lots of LFA skins, its ok!
What app are you using as the "dash" app for nav and such. Looks very android auto'y
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What app are you using as the "dash" app for nav and such. Looks very android auto'y
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Automate
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Automate
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Beautiful, thanks!
how is the install holding up... Im getting ready to do a similar set up with a 99 gs300
warnel33008 said:
how is the install holding up... Im getting ready to do a similar set up with a 99 gs300
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Its holding up fine.
I could never get the backup camera working and that bugs me.
I'm having second thoughts about the whole system now and want to get an Android Auto HU such as this one - http://www.crutchfield.com/S-Xvsy2Zazrje/p_1304200NEX/Pioneer-AVH-4200NEX.html
What is your budget and requirement for the install of a tablet in your car? The obvious ones in terms of requirements are Phone calling/receiving, Navigation and listening to your music collection. Any others you have?
If your budget can swing for the unit above - it has very good reviews, I would just do that instead.
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Its holding up fine.
I could never get the backup camera working and that bugs me.
I'm having second thoughts about the whole system now and want to get an Android Auto HU such as this one - http://www.crutchfield.com/S-Xvsy2Zazrje/p_1304200NEX/Pioneer-AVH-4200NEX.html
What is your budget and requirement for the install of a tablet in your car? The obvious ones in terms of requirements are Phone calling/receiving, Navigation and listening to your music collection. Any others you have?
If your budget can swing for the unit above - it has very good reviews, I would just do that instead.
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my main reason for the tablet diy is to play my music folders... I make them every other week... with new content... then of course navigation (google)... web browser right in the car if im parked in a parking lot waiting for her to come back....and the other obvious extras n perks.... I think this is more for me than the pioneer... I was looking into that first.... and decided i wanted more hands on experience with a tablet and able to customize as well.... did you use a custom dash kit bezel... how about the wire harness what did you use.... Im thinking of just doing a simple aux wire from the top of the nexus to the aux input in an aftermarket radio
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my main reason for the tablet diy is to play my music folders... I make them every other week... with new content...
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Check. Android Auto lets you play the music from your phone.
then of course navigation (google)...
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Check. Android Auto does that from your phone
web browser right in the car if im parked in a parking lot waiting for her to come back
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When you're parked, just do this from the phone. You don't need a tablet for this.
....and the other obvious extras n perks....
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What obvious extras and perks are you referring to specifically?
I think this is more for me than the pioneer... I was looking into that first.... and decided i wanted more hands on experience with a tablet and able to customize as well....
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Hand ons experience using a tablet? I don't follow what you mean by this statement. I had the same expectations when I didn't have the tablet in the car. Android Auto looked so limiting. However I've had a change of heart after using a tablet in the car for about a year now and then trying out Android Auto for a week in a rental while I was on vacation two weeks ago. Hands down, the tablet route in the dash is not worth it. Its so much simpler and cleaner (both in looks and functions of the Android Auto unit) to install the Pioneer Android Auto unit I linked above. I'm going to go that route next summer.
I got used to the Backup Camera on the Android Auto HU and and I can't replicate that on the Tablet in the dash. You don't have to worry about the tablet being charged all the time so that you can actually use it in the car without having to take it out and charge it if you haven't driven your vehicle for a few days (perhaps this does not apply to you if your GS is a DD. Mine isn't and the battery drain on the tablet is a major PITA).
did you use a custom dash kit bezel... how about the wire harness what did you use.... Im thinking of just doing a simple aux wire from the top of the nexus to the aux input in an aftermarket radio
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Yes, the audio shop custom fabricated the bezel kit and the wiring harness goes in the Kenwood HU that I already specified in my first post on this thread. I then connect the tablet via the OTG cable to a Digital Audio Converter to get better sound and then connect that to the HU AUX port - you can also see that in the pics I posted.
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Check. Android Auto lets you play the music from your phone.
Check. Android Auto does that from your phone
When you're parked, just do this from the phone. You don't need a tablet for this.
What obvious extras and perks are you referring to specifically?
Hand ons experience using a tablet? I don't follow what you mean by this statement. I had the same expectations when I didn't have the tablet in the car. Android Auto looked so limiting. However I've had a change of heart after using a tablet in the car for about a year now and then trying out Android Auto for a week in a rental while I was on vacation two weeks ago. Hands down, the tablet route in the dash is not worth it. Its so much simpler and cleaner (both in looks and functions of the Android Auto unit) to install the Pioneer Android Auto unit I linked above. I'm going to go that route next summer.
I got used to the Backup Camera on the Android Auto HU and and I can't replicate that on the Tablet in the dash. You don't have to worry about the tablet being charged all the time so that you can actually use it in the car without having to take it out and charge it if you haven't driven your vehicle for a few days (perhaps this does not apply to you if your GS is a DD. Mine isn't and the battery drain on the tablet is a major PITA).
Yes, the audio shop custom fabricated the bezel kit and the wiring harness goes in the Kenwood HU that I already specified in my first post on this thread. I then connect the tablet via the OTG cable to a Digital Audio Converter to get better sound and then connect that to the HU AUX port - you can also see that in the pics I posted.
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yea i checked it out.... and its great... I would just go with the nexus for now and see how my budget changes next year... for now I'm trying to stay under 200... do I have to get a dac/ microstreamer or can i just plug it from the 3.5mm headphone jack straight into my aftermarket radio aux input... what do you think?
So, did you switch, or are you now happy that you can run android auto straight from your tablet?
I am trying to find if Android Auto has any problems running from an Android headunit such as the Joying units. Otherwise, I would love to see if a nexus 9 could work in my Ram.
Having used tablets, android auto (pioneer and kenwood HU), and joying HU I think I can offer a lot of insight here.
For starters the tablet is still hands down the best carPC you can get. It simply does everything you want it to do without any sacrifices, and tends to look the most clean as well. The reflexive matte screens on android auto HU's are just dull and boring overall, but beyond that their performance is abysmal and android has been completely crippled on these devices in the name of safety. You cant reliably browse for music, the UI/search/scroll functions in the supported music apps block you from doing too much to keep your eyes on the road, and they all require you to plug your phone in which is just a PITA every time you get in your car.
I dont know about you but I dont like having a phone in my cup holder, glovebox, center console, or on some chintzy grip mounted to the dash. It's just ugly, the wires are ugly, and having an additional screen + wires dangling about just breaks the symmetry of a nice clean A/V setup. Using a tablet with hotspot is so much more elegant. The Nexus 7 will charge faster than it drains on any car accessory charging port (cigarette charger) so it should be nearly 100% all the time while you drive. If this car isnt your daily driver then why are you putting a tablet install in it? lol. Ultimately the Android Auto head units are manufactured by companies that just have no experience in this area and are prone to bugs and other anomalies. The entire experience just felt gimped.
As for Joying HU, while the concept is admirable the execution is flawed. Their biggest issue is just poor hardware. You just cannot squeeze an entire Android equipped OS with proper hardware and all the other stuff required to make a functional HU for the prices they are asking. If a tablet alone costs as much as their entire HU then imagine what kind of processor theyre sticking inside these things. While it worked overall, the dang thing has to BOOT UP every time you start your car. This might be tolerable on cold winter mornings where you might sit in your driveway for 5 minutes anyway, but for most other occasions it's just annoying not being able to get your music/waze configured until you've drive a couple of miles, or to just sit there aimlessly tapping your fingers waiting for it to start.
Also due to such poor hardware in the Joying units multi-tasking becomes a chore. CPU/GPU intensive apps like waze are laggy, multi-tasking between your music app is frustrating, and you forget doing things like split screen viewing. The only advantage these have is the ability to integrate with a backup camera, of which I have no need for since I know how to reverse my car without running over a fire hydrant.
A pioneer/kenwood HU might have superior audio internals, but you have to remember the source audio is usually coming from a streaming app which is going to be 128kbps or less anyway so youll never properly exploit all that great audio technology anyway. A simple 3.5mm to aux-in adapter works beautifully and produces good sound on any HU. I never bothered with DAC's or other ways to convert audio, just get a solid single-DIN HU and the aux-in will be fine for all but the purist audiophiles. Even among those types there is still no desire to use Android Auto since it feels like you're using a 1st gen smart phone from 2000.
Has anyone seen any compatibility info with the 6P and Android Auto? I am sure there should be none, but I don't know if the USB-C would make a difference. I haven't seen any Android Auto info at all for the new Nexus models.
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Doubt it would matter, USB is backwards compatible if it's micro you would just need an adapter.
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Has anyone seen any compatibility info with the 6P and Android Auto? I am sure there should be none, but I don't know if the USB-C would make a difference. I haven't seen any Android Auto info at all for the new Nexus models.
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Should hopefully work like normally, I'm gonna be using the USB-C to USB-A cable that comes in box for my car for Android Auto. Hopefully it works without any issues otherwise this would be a huge over site by Google and a huge deal-breaker for me because no way I'm not driving around with Android Auto (it has completely changed my commutes.)
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Should hopefully work like normally, I'm gonna be using the USB-C to USB-A cable that comes in box for my car for Android Auto. Hopefully it works without any issues otherwise this would be a huge over site by Google and a huge deal-breaker for me because no way I'm not driving around with Android Auto (it has completely changed my commutes.)
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I agree. Android Auto makes my long commute that much bearable. Now that Amazon Prime Music works with Auto too? Sweet
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Should hopefully work like normally, I'm gonna be using the USB-C to USB-A cable that comes in box for my car for Android Auto. Hopefully it works without any issues otherwise this would be a huge over site by Google and a huge deal-breaker for me because no way I'm not driving around with Android Auto (it has completely changed my commutes.)
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How's it worked out so far for you? I have no issues, so far so good. Always good to hear from other AA users since there aren't too many of us out there (yet)
Mine works fine using the cable I bought from Google.
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How's it worked out so far for you? I have no issues, so far so good. Always good to hear from other AA users since there aren't too many of us out there (yet)
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Ive had no issues so far! Its been amazing! Ive just been using the USB-C to USB-A cable that came with the 6P. Its the perfect length for this kinda thing!
I haven't had any problem at all. That short adapter cable is the perfect size for this. I just bought another, longer cable to use at home.
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I haven't had any problem at all. That short adapter cable is the perfect size for this. I just bought another, longer cable to use at home.
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Same here. I had my installer put the USB port in where the cigarette lighter plug was (I had two of these on my dash). So I bought a Brodit Proclip mount and the short USB OEM cable works great
What do you guys choose for a USB option when you plug in your device? I tried all the options and my car and AA app don't seem to recognize. Will try a new cable this afternoon.
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What do you guys choose for a USB option when you plug in your device? I tried all the options and my car and AA app don't seem to recognize. Will try a new cable this afternoon.
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Make sure you have android debugging on. It won't work without it.
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Make sure you have android debugging on. It won't work without it.
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That's not true. I'm using a USB A to C cable I ordered from Google and it works fine on a 4100NEX.
Thanks for the responses.
It ended up being a setting on my headunit that was incorrect. It was set by default to use MirrorLink and not Android Auto, switched it up and now works perfectly! :good:
Would like to reopen this discussion as I'm buying a VW Golf TSI 2016 that has a factory installed Android Auto unit. I tried it at the dealership and it was a pain to initially connect my N6P with original USB-C to USB-A cable. It did eventually work but I had to turn on debugging, remove my lock screen pattern/security (unit in the car was saying the phone was locked and it couldn't access it but it wasn't?) ... It ultimately worked but it was a pain to setup really (took over 10 minutes). And then Maps and phone worked, Google Music wouldn't had to unplug, force close Google Music and then replug and it worked ... I tried it in a 2016 Honda Civic too while shopping and fumbled around for 20+ minutes to get it to connect ; no luck. It bluetooth paired but it was like I hadn't plugged anything in the USB port.
Of note ; in both case I compared with iPhones/Car Play : plug it in and within 3 to 5 seconds, everything is setup.
I'd be curious to see if anyone here has experience with 2016 VWs and how easy (or hard) it is to get it to connect? If I have to fumble around in the settings for a few minutes everytime I get in the car, that's a major bummer. Will try again tonight before signing paperwork.
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Would like to reopen this discussion as I'm buying a VW Golf TSI 2016 that has a factory installed Android Auto unit. I tried it at the dealership and it was a pain to initially connect my N6P with original USB-C to USB-A cable. It did eventually work but I had to turn on debugging, remove my lock screen pattern/security (unit in the car was saying the phone was locked and it couldn't access it but it wasn't?) ... It ultimately worked but it was a pain to setup really (took over 10 minutes). And then Maps and phone worked, Google Music wouldn't had to unplug, force close Google Music and then replug and it worked ... I tried it in a 2016 Honda Civic too while shopping and fumbled around for 20+ minutes to get it to connect ; no luck. It bluetooth paired but it was like I hadn't plugged anything in the USB port.
Of note ; in both case I compared with iPhones/Car Play : plug it in and within 3 to 5 seconds, everything is setup.
I'd be curious to see if anyone here has experience with 2016 VWs and how easy (or hard) it is to get it to connect? If I have to fumble around in the settings for a few minutes everytime I get in the car, that's a major bummer. Will try again tonight before signing paperwork.
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Sounds like an issue with VW. My Android Auto (non-VW), set up fine. And to this day, I can use Android Auto without disabling my pattern lock.
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Sounds like an issue with VW. My Android Auto (non-VW), set up fine. And to this day, I can use Android Auto without disabling my pattern lock.
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Ok so ended up buying the VW and Android Auto took some time to setup the first time around but nothing as painful as when I was at the dealership. So far, 98% of the time I plugged my phone in Android Auto started within 5 seconds or so. On 2 occasions it failed to launch. One time it was kind of stuck in a loop where it would connect via Bluetooth, disconnect, try to connect via USB, fail, reconnect via Bluetooth, disconnect (and start over again endlessly). I had to unplug it and restart the car for it to work but that happened only once so...
Everything works flawlessly and is well integrated with the VW infotainment system (Google Maps voice instructions will play on top of FM radio or Sirius XM and only lower the volume of whatever is playing a tadbit, I actually did not expect that (I was expecting the sound to cut completely and then come back once Google Maps is done telling me XYZ instruction)).
2016 Kia Optimia & N6P Connection Issues
Hello,
I have a new 2016 Kia Optima and I'm been fooling around with this for 2 weeks and I can't get it connected. Here's what I've done.
-tried different cables which includes the short one that was shipped with the unit
- factory reset of the device
- turned degging off and on
- uninstalled the android app
- turned wireless off and removed the connection (that's what the Kia rep told me to do)
The only thing that I get when connected it the options to choose what to do when connected via USB. I've toggle all of them and have toggled the off and on ADD new cars to android auto button till I'm blue in the face.
Right now I'm all out for suggestions. Does anyone have any idea? It will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Ron
Anyone else having a problem with no notification sound when receiving a text message. I can see the message pop up on screen but I have to be looking at the screen or I will miss the message. Happens with Messenger and Hangouts. Nexus 6P is full stock with latest firmware. Head unit is a Kenwood DDX9702S with the latest firmware.
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Anyone else having a problem with no notification sound when receiving a text message. I can see the message pop up on screen but I have to be looking at the screen or I will miss the message. Happens with Messenger and Hangouts. Nexus 6P is full stock with latest firmware. Head unit is a Kenwood DDX9702S with the latest firmware.
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Have you tried raising the 'alert' level, available at the right side of the screen when you adjust volume levels?
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Have you tried raising the 'alert' level, available at the right side of the screen when you adjust volume levels?
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I'm having the same problem. Will try that and report back.
I have purchased an Xtrons PF75ATTA. As I understand this information is some what useless so other information includes (MCU Version: MTCD_GS_V1.75_1 and Build Number: rk3188).
As I am sure most owners of similar headunits find even basic technical support is some what limited. So to my question
On the back of the unit I have a 8 pin connector titled D: split machine 3 ipod. In the factory settings it says ipod = yes. and there is an ipod app as part of the stock rom.
xtrons tell me the unit doesn't support ipod but I get the impression that is not the end of it. The back of the unit looks identical to other units and the cable for a pimpkin hu device looks like the cable I need (Unfortunately I am to much of a noob to be trusted to post links at the moment). So I guess my questions are as follows
1. Does anyone else have a unit which specifies it doesn't support Ipod yet has ports for it (other than USB)
2. Has anyone successfully got this working?
3. If so where did you get your cable from or did you make it?
4. If you made it what were the pinouts?
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i could never get an iPod to work right on my Joying and when I posted on the Joying forum, seemed like no one else could get it to work either.
Prior to getting the Joying, I was emailing with RoadNavi.com's support about the S160 series, and they also said their units didn't really work with an iPod
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i could never get an iPod to work right on my Joying and when I posted on the Joying forum, seemed like no one else could get it to work either.
Prior to getting the Joying, I was emailing with RoadNavi.com's support about the S160 series, and they also said their units didn't really work with an iPod
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With your joying did you have a specific ipod cable with ipod connector on one end and proprietary connector on the other end or were you using a standard ipod to usb connector and plugging it into the usb port? This can't be that difficult to do. My old Parrot Asteroid did it with no problems.
i used an iPod Classic with a 30 pin connector. I had a 30 pin to USB cord that worked fine in 2 different cars. I tried that on both the USB cords with no luck.
Road Navi does have an iPod specific plug and cable, but they said it didn't work right either
Yes, I can understand why a standard ipod 30 pins usb connector may not work. Can anyone share there experiences with a hui fei unit with dedicated ipod port and cable. Does it work as expected?
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Yes, I can understand why a standard ipod 30 pins usb connector may not work. Can anyone share there experiences with a hui fei unit with dedicated ipod port and cable. Does it work as expected?
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From what I have researched so far :- (Feel free to add or correct me) -
Standard IPOD Classic 6th gen works fine with the current Honda head units, which are still in the dark ages and running a Honda version of Android 6. !! (heavily LOCKED down so that nothing can be added with rooting)
Same device does NOT run on a Eonon GA2170B, running Android 8, even though the IPOD app is pre-installed, even when IPOD support that is turned off by default in Factory setting, is turned back on.
Turning on Ipod support still does allow Ipod Classic 6th gen to communicate with the installed Ipod App.
From what I have read, this is because the Eonon GA2170B is Android 8, and the "old" Ipod firmware is not compatible with the later Android versions.
There are Firmware alternatives for the Ipod (either permanent of via a dual boot), that claim to make the Ipods work with Android 8, with varying success, depending on the Model Ipod.
I have chosen to not mess with my Ipod, but rather to copy all its music onto a Mico SD card (or USB stick), and then use that in the Eonon unit with a suitable player, that can select Title, Album, Song, Artist from the Mp3's meta data.
Some many advantages of this are:
(a) Music is always in the Car,
(b) Ipod is NOT in the Car, getting HOT (or stolen)
(c) No need to worry about charging the Ipod.
(d) Far easier to add additional music (ITunes sucks )
I did find an OLD IPOD emulation Player app, that had a user Interface looking like the Classic Apple Ipod UI, but it was no longer on the Play Store, and when I got it from the author's website (5+ year old ), it also did not run on the Eonon Androis 8 unit.
BTW: My Eonon GA2170B is advertised as having 3 USB ports, but in fact it has 4 !
1 standard USB Port on the Back = USB 1
2 additional ports on a plug in cable to back = USB 2 & USB 3
1 Port on the front ( next to the front Mini SD port) USB 4
So, plenty of Ports to add USB storage devices with Music on them !!