Hello I wanted to create this thread because this phone is really nice and has a great camera, but not perfect at all, first problem is the raw mode, it's cool but why is has some darker corner and green tint ?? and it's only 20Mo instead of 30Mo with Camera FV-5 and ProShot apps.
But Vincent2167 find a calibration file : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61360315&postcount=314
LG still have to fix it and don't need this...
An other problem is the camera mode, we can't record in 1080p in 60fps, it kind of sucks for a flagship in 2015, but the worst is the 4K video, the video is pixelated, try to shot a landscape with a blue sky, you will noticed that the sky is very pixelated... probably because the bitrate is too low, only 30Mbps for 4K is low low. I read it's almost 50Mbps for the Galaxy S6.
To finish, the camera mode when you do a zoom, a close up, the mic change and the sound quality recorded become very bad, especially when you want to record a concert, you can see it here :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKJZqdD8oZc
@0:34 when we zoom the mic change and the sound is closed, pretty bad, when it unzoom the sound come to reality @1:28
Edit : I forgot the video stabilisation, I think LG can do better, and has to do something to activated or deactivated the stabilisation because it makes the picture very distorted when moving.
Edit 2 : The front camera pretty good details, but the background is always overexposed even with HDR activated, so bye selfies with nice landscape.
So please LG fix this, it's nothing, sound like you just wanted to contain all real potentials of the G4, and wait to make for G5 or what ?
Edit 3 : Since Marshmallow, videos in 4K have better bitrate, 46Mbps instead of 30Mpbs only with Lollipop.
Why doesn't the camera app have a night mode setting anymore? I'm too old to remember ISO and shutter settings anymore. In fact, the stock camera app seems to be missing many features that existed on the G2 stock camera app.
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Why doesn't the camera app have a night mode setting anymore?
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Because its not needed any more. The G4 will take a night shot by itself if it thinks its necessary. It even does this with the front camera.
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Hello I wanted to create this thread because this phone is really nice and has a great camera, but not perfect at all, first problem is the raw mode, it's cool but why is has some darker corner and green tint ?? and it's only 20Mo instead of 30Mo with Camera FV-5 and ProShot apps.
But Vincent2167 find a calibration file : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61360315&postcount=314
LG still have to fix it and don't need this...
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In the mean time use vincent's workaround.
An other problem is the camera mode, we can't record in 1080p in 60fps, it kind of sucks for a flagship in 2015, but the worst is the 4K video, the video is pixelated, try to shot a landscape with a blue sky, you will noticed that the sky is very pixelated... probably because the bitrate is too low, only 30Mbps for 4K is low low. I read it's almost 50Mbps for the Galaxy S6.
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Did you see this mod ?
60fps does not seem stable but higher bitrate 48Mbs? at 4k looks to work. Needs root though.
Suspect they used a lower bitrate rate to keep file size, power consumption as well as heat low as possible. With the Z3 in warmer climates you could not get it to record 4k for more than 3 minutes (!) cold weather was better.
To finish, the camera mode when you do a zoom, a close up, the mic change and the sound quality recorded become very bad, espacially when you want to record a concert, you can see it here :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKJZqdD8oZc
@0:34 when we zoom the mic change and the sound is closed, pretty bad, when it unzoom the sound come to reality @1:28
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LG has been doing this since the G2. They think voice is more important.
Edit : I forgot the video stabilisation, I think LG can do better, and has to do something to activated or deactivated the stabilisation because it makes the picture very distorted when moving.
So please LG fix this, it's nothing, sound like you just wanted to contain all real potentials of the G4, and wait to make for G5 or what ?
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I find this one a bit odd almost like they did not get time to do it by the time of launch. it could be better.
Its early days so fixes are possible
jlv3 said:
Why doesn't the camera app have a night mode setting anymore? I'm too old to remember ISO and shutter settings anymore. In fact, the stock camera app seems to be missing many features that existed on the G2 stock camera app.
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You basically answered your own question. It's not needed anymore *because* we can now manually control ISO and shutter speed.
"Don't include features, people will complain. Include those features, people will complain."
Now when I use manual mode and move the MF slider all the way up to auto the camera app fc's. Anybody else experience this?
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Now when I use manual mode and move the MF slider all the way up to auto the camera app fc's. Anybody else experience this?
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Using a custom dpi?
Yep 560.
One Twelve said:
Did you see this mod ?
60fps does not seem stable but higher bitrate 48Mbs? at 4k looks to work. Needs root though.
Suspect they used a lower bitrate rate to keep file size, power consumption as well as heat low as possible. With the Z3 in warmer climates you could not get it to record 4k for more than 3 minutes (!) cold weather was better.
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No I didn't thanks, but still need to be root.
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Now when I use manual mode and move the MF slider all the way up to auto the camera app fc's. Anybody else experience this?
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Custom DPI does this. It does it with me too sometimes.
What is custom DPI ?
UP, I hope LG will fix it. Do you think the stabilisation in the video can be improved ?
Which one have the best accurate colors ? the warm or cold one ?
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I have the warm...
Oversharpening!
Too much oversharpening when zoom photos.. And warmer colors than reaity
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Which one have the best accurate colors ? the warm or cold one ?
I have the warm...
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Have you rooted devices? I own H815 and don't have OFF or ON on sliders in settings (just I or O).
If rooted, how did you change temperature? Root app?
No I'm not root, I found this picture here, and I went to the store, the LG G4 has different screen temps, in the store it was cold, mine is warmer... So I wanted to know which one has the best accurate colors or which one has been reviewed on internet.
Where exactly have you found this photo?
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Where exactly have you found this photo?
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Here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-g4/help/2-g4s-cameras-screen-temps-t3186732
Someone know the answer of my question ? "Which one have the best accurate colors ? the warm or cold one ? "
DoKaTSuYa said:
Someone know the answer of my question ? "Which one have the best accurate colors ? the warm or cold one ? "
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Neither. The warm has more yellow and the cold has more blue. some people like colder screens ie blue. Course the degree of tint matters, if its too yellow or too blue then its not good as you never see white. This matters if you are watching movies or seeing photos but less if you are reading docs say..
The term 'accurate' isn't a good one because accurate colours require expensive screens to reproduce and are not attractive to view.
So vendors tweak the colours so that they pop and are pleasing. it seems pleasing is more important to people than accurate.
there is no way to calibrate a phone screen either, android does not support it yet like you could do using a spider say with a regular monitor. And this calibration needs to be done on a regular basis to remain accurate.
personally i prefer warmer as its easier on the eyes. on my laptop i have a utility called f.lux that drops the colour temperature after sunset. otherwise its like staring into a headlight! have to turn it off when viewing photos but otherwise for working its been great.
i did the same with my phone using an app called twilight.
Ok, but when I said accurate, I meant the color reproduction of the others colors, I think I read someone said warmer teint has better color reproduction than the cold one but I can't find it anymore. Personnaly I prefer cold, because of his real white, but not too cold to be blue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OAAy5D7E-U
How it can happened ? The sound didn't change when he zoom...
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I've got sgs around month ago and already tried many kernels and firmwares but neither of those deal with photo camera shots quality issues. Let me explain - I had Huawei u8220 before and the camera photo shots where nearly perfect, when I get to computer I will try to upload a couple of pictures to see. Now with this high end super phone I get photos of the same quality as my wife's simple nokia but 5mp instead... I wonder if this is hardware of software fault, and if it is software, maybe there is better app available for camera?
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The SGS's camera is not the best in the world, but I've been able to make fairly good shots with it. But in the end; just with all phone cameras, it's a tiny sensor with lousy optics. Just use it for what it is for and only use it under the right circumstances (enough light, little movement) and you should be oke.
I don't understand alot of the negative opinons about the sgs camera, it seems perfect for a phone camera, better than all those htc ones and my old nokia n95 one by far, which is all I could really ask for.
don't know what you talking about really.
SGS has a great camera.
Compare the pictures taken by sgs on other websites with yours and see any diffference.
Check setting and camera lens.
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[email protected] said:
don't know what you talking about really.
SGS has a great camera.
Compare the pictures taken by sgs on other websites with yours and see any diffference.
Check setting and camera lens.
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I have compared pictures before I purchased sgs and I saw that they are way worth than those from huawei but I thought that is because of taking picture conditions, besides I liked to have this phone,i still do, but here are two shots one from huawei and one from sgs,i didn't pick the best, just random.
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The photo compression on the SGS is bad. It would be great if somebody fixedthat and the crappy filters on the video.
if that sgs camera sample is actually indicative of all the pics you take then there is something seriously wrong with your camera, I've never taken a pic that bad. Maybe you're picture quality is on normal, not super fine and its on a low res?
go to camera then go to settings. try to change the resolution from 600x480(not exact) to 2500x1900(not exact) or something like that. I think its a bug cause when i put mine to 2000x1900 it magically changes back to 800x600. just check if you are really using the full 5m.
i also checked the one you uploaded and its just 600x480. may you are just using .3m
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go to camera then go to settings. try to change the resolution from 600x480(not exact) to 2500x1900(not exact) or something like that. I think its a bug cause when i put mine to 2000x1900 it magically changes back to 800x600. just check if you are really using the full 5m.
i also checked the one you uploaded and its just 600x480. may you are just using .3m
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the resolution was 2048x1536 and quality superfine why the image got smaller on the post? I dont know, will try to to find shots in approximately same condition. The size of Huawei's 3mp photo is slightly bugger than the SGSs 5mp. By the way, Huawei's camera was set on NORMAL image quality here (fine one would add some strange artefacts so, I never used it)
Huawei u8220:
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For me, the Camera on the Outside has a great Quality while the Front Facing camera Picture is useless because its blurry as hell. Like theres extreme Bloom is turned on.
I didnt find any options to change anything on the Frontcam.
Do you have the same prob?
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the resolution was 2048x1536 and quality superfine why the image got smaller on the post? I dont know, will try to to find shots in approximately same condition. The size of Huawei's 3mp photo is slightly bugger than the SGSs 5mp. By the way, Huawei's camera was set on NORMAL image quality here (fine one would add some strange artefacts so, I never used it)
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So what are you complaining about. You do not use SGS best quality but use the best quality of the Huwaei. The SGS is still much better if you compare. Both cameras is set to 3mp still the SGS is both sharper (you used the same number of pixel and they should be equal), have correct color, better contrast etc than the Huawie and still it is only roughly the half potential of the SGS (5mp versus 3mp). Strange thread the title should be why does my Huawei take so crapy pictures.
I think the problem is that you seem to prefer saturated pictures, the only problem is that the SGS camera looks 'dull' in comparison? Go fiddle with the settings?
Also, do you still have your huawei? Why don't you take pictures of the same subject matter to compare, instead of taking entirely different types of photos?
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So what are you complaining about. You do not use SGS best quality but use the best quality of the Huwaei. The SGS is still much better if you compare. Both cameras is set to 3mp still the SGS is both sharper (you used the same number of pixel and they should be equal), have correct color, better contrast etc than the Huawie and still it is only roughly the half potential of the SGS (5mp versus 3mp). Strange thread the title should be why does my Huawei take so crapy pictures.
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Both cameras on last uploaded photos are set to 3 mp, it's max for huawei, but the quality setting for huawei was set to normal and for sgs superfine
To me huawei pics look sharper and sgs ones are dull,
Yes I should experiment with settings of sgs camera and yes,i need to charge huawei and make a few pics of the same object, will be back with results tomorrow after charge.
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Ok I figured some options to make photos look better, and even better than huawei - settings-> adjust->+2 on contrast and sharpness and quality photos are there, however,i have to set this option ecru time I start camera, those are not saved for some reason, maybe there are some tricks on how to save options in camera?
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i wish i still had the shots i took with my first SGS. they were great! I'd have used them to populate this site
http://litlclic.com
(ok, little plug there)
it's still in the works ...
the SGS is a great little camera/phone! as someone above mentioned, of course it isnt as good as a camera, but take it for what it is and you can get some great shots!
this guide will help too
http://litlclic.com/guides/take-better-pics
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Ok I figured some options to make photos look better, and even better than huawei - settings-> adjust->+2 on contrast and sharpness and quality photos are there, however,i have to set this option ecru time I start camera, those are not saved for some reason, maybe there are some tricks on how to save options in camera?
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You know you can touch to zoom on specific ellements right?
Also, the different modes (click SCN) will make a big difference.
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You know you can touch to zoom on specific ellements right?
Also, the different modes (click SCN) will make a big difference.
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Touching doesn't zoom, but adjusts the focus.
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Touching doesn't zoom, but adjusts the focus.
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yep, my bad!
I meant Touch to focus
I've found that using Vignette, the SGS camera takes better photos.
Always remember, it's not the camera that makes a photographer, especially if you've comparing smartphone cameras. If we were talking about various prime lenses and the like, then it's a lot more serious.
Also, factor in that almost all photos nowadays go through post-processing if you want it to look good. I personally feel that there is nothing wrong with that, if one is just to touch up the photo.
Hence my inclination towards programs like Vignette, which do a lot of the post-processing effects that I like, all within the camera. Excellent feature of Vignette is that it can save both original JPEG (which considerably looks better than the default camera), and the edited JPEG.
Here are some random photos taken using Vignette:
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Vignette04
I am in no way affiliated with the makers of the program, nor am I being paid to this. These are all my side on things. I hope it was informative.
Im also using vignette and noticed that right before the photo is taken when the app is trying to focus theres a split second that you will see the images that are very very sharp and great quality, after the photo is snapped it looks dull.
Apparently, DxO Mark just gave out a score to Xperia Z1 and amazingly, just sits at 2nd place behind the Pureview 808 in overall Mobile Camera Ranking! :victory:
And that's without the "firmware updates" that will supposedly improve the camera!
I can't post the link as I'm still within the new user limitation of posting outside links. But if you're curious to see it, just do a quick google search for DxOMark and Xperia Z1!
More details:
Actually, the stills for Z1 stands at 5th place, however the video was deemed to be outstanding and the best in the mobile cameras and just 2nd place in their database behind the GoPro Hero 3!
If you're wondering what happened to the 1020, they also have an article on it and while they deemed the stills to be amazing and 2nd only to the 808. However, video was said to be lacking.
What are your thoughts?
bloodfire1004 said:
Apparently, DxO Mark just gave out a score to Xperia Z1 and amazingly, just sits at 2nd place behind the Pureview 808 in overall Mobile Camera Ranking! :victory:
And that's without the "firmware updates" that will supposedly improve the camera!
I can't post the link as I'm still within the new user limitation of posting outside links. But if you're curious to see it, just do a quick google search for DxOMark and Xperia Z1!
More details:
Actually, the stills for Z1 stands at 5th place, however the video was deemed to be outstanding and the best in the mobile cameras and just 2nd place in their database behind the GoPro Hero 3!
If you're wondering what happened to the 1020, they also have an article on it and while they deemed the stills to be amazing and 2nd only to the 808. However, video was said to be lacking.
What are your thoughts?
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I guess the big sensor is the key here. Dxomark doesn't reflect the real life though. I'm not very happy with the z1 camera... far too noisy especially at 20mp. Still better than my older nexus 4 anyway.
j0sh0 said:
I guess the big sensor is the key here. Dxomark doesn't reflect the real life though. I'm not very happy with the z1 camera... far too noisy especially at 20mp. Still better than my older nexus 4 anyway.
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Just curious, what settings are you using? I'm pretty satisfied with the Z1 Camera of mine, but that was after tweaking some of the shooting settings I'm in. At first, I was pretty disappointed as well but now I think I'm good.
bloodfire1004 said:
Just curious, what settings are you using? I'm pretty satisfied with the Z1 Camera of mine, but that was after tweaking some of the shooting settings I'm in. At first, I was pretty disappointed as well but now I think I'm good.
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I bought the phone yesterday so I'm still testing it. At the moment I like to shoot in manual mode at 8mp with image stabiliser on.
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I bought the phone yesterday so I'm still testing it. At the moment I like to shoot in manual mode at 8mp with image stabiliser on.
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Ah ok. That's good then. Shooting at 20MP especially in low-light results in (I'm not sure why) worse pictures than shooting at 8MP 4:3 .. in my tests, it resulted in darker images.
I also like to shoot at 8MP 4:3 to take advantage of the oversampling and leave the rest of the settings to Auto. One thing though is that I turn off the Stabilizer. I found that turning it on resulted in the camera choosing a much higher ISO than intended compared when leaving it off. This may be due to its detection of slight handshake movements and it tries to compensate by upping the ISO in favor of a faster shutter speed.
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Ah ok. That's good then. Shooting at 20MP especially in low-light results in (I'm not sure why) worse pictures than shooting at 8MP 4:3 .. in my tests, it resulted in darker images.
I also like to shoot at 8MP 4:3 to take advantage of the oversampling and leave the rest of the settings to Auto. One thing though is that I turn off the Stabilizer. I found that turning it on resulted in the camera choosing a much higher ISO than intended compared when leaving it off. This may be due to its detection of slight handshake movements and it tries to compensate by upping the ISO in favor of a faster shutter speed.
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Yes shooting at 20mp is useless. Pics are so noisy... it's a shame. At 8mp the image quality is pretty good and yes, with the stabiliser on the iso is higher for that reason. But I prefer a bit more noise other than a blurred image.
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Yes shooting at 20mp is useless. Pics are so noisy... it's a shame. At 8mp the image quality is pretty good and yes, with the stabiliser on the iso is higher for that reason. But I prefer a bit more noise other than a blurred image.
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Nice. What metering and focus are you using? Particularly for macro / night shots. I find that using Single Auto Focus setting doesn't keep the whole image in focus and just the middle part, but I find that the multi-auto focus setting doesn't do too well either particularly in macro shots. Currently, I shoot in landscape mode when shooting macro.
I'm using metering average (it seems to do a better job with white balance as well). About focus I always use touch focus... I like to choose what I want in focus...
I love th bokeh management of the lens.. look at this for example
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I'm using metering average (it seems to do a better job with white balance as well). About focus I always use touch focus... I like to choose what I want in focus...
I love th bokeh management of the lens.. look at this for example
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Ohh nice, I'm gonna try that out Thanks!
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I bought the phone yesterday so I'm still testing it. At the moment I like to shoot in manual mode at 8mp with image stabiliser on.
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And there's you mistake - the software image stabiliser introduces noise. Switch it off.
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And there's you mistake - the software image stabiliser introduces noise. Switch it off.
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Yeah, I know... but as I said I prefer a slighty noiser image than a blurred one. I'll try again without stabiliser anyway.
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Yeah, I know... but as I said I prefer a slighty noiser image than a blurred one. I'll try again without stabiliser anyway.
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Hopefully new update has improved superior auto mode...
Try night mode can reduce noise.
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Why is everyone so scared of noise I just don't get it. If the fine detail is their don't worry about the noise.
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Yeah. The Z1 does lovely bokeh.
here is theDxO report for the Z1 which i could not find on DxO's website.
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I dont think samsung software is better, have more mods, but is very large and camera lags, i have gs4 9500 until last week
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What i find telling from that review is this graph.
Above 80 lux the S4 shots have more 'texture' than the Z1.
Contrary to what people might think the Z1 has the best noise reduction indoors.
bloodfire1004 said:
Apparently, DxO Mark just gave out a score to Xperia Z1 and amazingly, just sits at 2nd place behind the Pureview 808 in overall Mobile Camera Ranking! :victory:
And that's without the "firmware updates" that will supposedly improve the camera!
I can't post the link as I'm still within the new user limitation of posting outside links. But if you're curious to see it, just do a quick google search for DxOMark and Xperia Z1!
More details:
Actually, the stills for Z1 stands at 5th place, however the video was deemed to be outstanding and the best in the mobile cameras and just 2nd place in their database behind the GoPro Hero 3!
If you're wondering what happened to the 1020, they also have an article on it and while they deemed the stills to be amazing and 2nd only to the 808. However, video was said to be lacking.
What are your thoughts?
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Not much of a fan of them anymore, after I wrote to them to see if they would do the Xperia Z test again after Sony updating the firmware to fix the bad camera quality, they didn't even respond to me. On the flip side it is Sony's fault for shipping substandard equipment, get all the important things right first, especially the camera when they are making such a big deal about how amazing it is.
DxO finally got around to testing the G2. Overall G2 placed 6th. However in the photo section it ties with the Z1 in terms of score. A closer examination of the parameters tested shows the Z1 edges ahead slighlty.
Where the Z1 comes out ahead : Exposure & Contrast, Colour, Noise Reduction, Flash
Where the G2 comes out ahead : Autofocus, Texture, Artifacts
4 > 3 or Z1 ahead by a little.
What lets the G2 down is video, where its ranked 15th to the Z1's 2nd place.
If you consider phones alone, Z1 has the best video out there.
Now we have to wait for DxO to test the Note 3 to see whether it will affect the Z1's ranking.
Sorry to jump here like that, I don't even know all this stuff but after read what you guys saying is like the camera on Z1 was made for experienced people who know how to set up the device. This is a phone anyway and I like to go around and shooting everything but almost of the pictures are crap. That how shouldn't be with a camera on a phone with 20mpx.
I am really fed up!
I can't understand why the camcorders of Mi A1 lag when shooting in low light condition like a 50$ Android Phone.
My brother have a low-cost Redmi 4X and his camcorders (rear and front) are super smooth in low light / internal ambients, and selfie quality is fantastic.
I hope it's a driver fault, because i don't think that in 2017 it's possible to have laggy camcorders on mid-range phones.
Mi A1 has OV12A10 and OV13880 as rear cameras, and OV12A10 has a max frame rate of 90fps at 1920x1080. Why we have only 30fps?http://www.ovt.com/sensors/OV12A10
Bad front facing camera chapter:
This phone has a 5-megapixel Samsung S5K5E8 BSI sensor, that is also used in Redmi Note 4 16GB, Redmi Pro, Vernee Apollo Lite and Meizu M3 Note. Why only in Mi A1 this sensor sucks? See this selfie from Meizu M3 Note!
Is Xiaomi using bad camera libraries? I hope yes!
How to fix this s#!t?
Was doing the same like you 3 weeks ago. I checked the actual sensor with 90fps on the website. I really dont get why we get this crappy camera. I just hope that its the buggy driver of the camera. Otherwise its pretty sad. FHD with 30FPS and FHD with 90FPS are 200percent difference. Not even my HTC HD2 had a laggy camera like the A1
Seriously bro! Front camera is bad as hell!!
And colour accuracy is ****.
I mean in indoor lighting the back camera can't identify the red color! It shows dull pinkish color. But back camera is good in outdoor conditions. But the front camera is ****! Really **** in indoor as well as outdoor!
Devs should do something to improve the camera performance.
And yeah, the video recording is crap in indoors as well as outdoors.
It should be a libraries issue, or at least I hope that. Same front camera used in other brands it's better
All this is true, unfortunately.
There's a Google Camera App that was ported from the Pixel (requires root) that improves the camera quality and adds HDR+ and video stabilization so there's still hope that Xiaomi improves the camera quality with a software update, right?
Cheers
When Xiaomi will release kernel sources, we absolutely need to solve these problems...
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One quick work around (until this issue is properly addressed) is this one:
✓ Download Open Camera from the Play store.
✓ When in low light, manually set video ISO to 3200
✓ Set Scene mode to "Steady Photo" ( I think it works best on our phone.)
✓ Enjoy your smooth video.
I completely agree, the stock camera app is horrendously bad in low light. I believe it has to do more with default settings in auto mode than drivers.
Good luck.
Steady photo mode provide steady photo or is it alternative to eis for videos recordin???
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One quick work around (until this issue is properly addressed) is this one:
✓ Download Open Camera from the Play store.
✓ When in low light, manually set video ISO to 3200
✓ Set Scene mode to "Steady Photo" ( I think it works best on our phone.)
✓ Enjoy your smooth video.
I completely agree, the stock camera app is horrendously bad in low light. I believe it has to do more with default settings in auto mode than drivers.
Good luck.
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Tried... but no visible improvements to be honest
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Tried... but no visible improvements to be honest
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That's interesting.Using this method I get 30 fps in low light every time. I'm trying to upload a screenshot showing 29fps but I get a "bad request" from the XDA app.
I have the global version purchased in Greece a couple of months ago. What is your version?
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Steady photo mode provide steady photo or is it alternative to eis for videos recordin???
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I'm not sure, but to me it seems better. Anyway you can stabilize your videos after you shoot them in Google Photos.
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That's interesting.Using this method I get 30 fps in low light every time. I'm trying to upload a screenshot showing 29fps but I get a "bad request" from the XDA app.
I have the global version purchased in Greece a couple of months ago. What is your version?
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Global version, Italy, one month ago
But i was talking about pictures, maybe you refer to video, is it right?
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Global version, Italy, one month ago
But i was talking about pictures, maybe you refer to video, is it right?
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Yes, that is correct. It wouldn't be of much help with the photos. I hope they fix that, it's so annoying not being able to capture a moment on video because you have to fiddle with the settings first.
It would be a good idea to compare the camera performance with the mi5x. Its the sale phone wirh different módem, firmware, OS and internal partitioning. If mi 5x can hace a decent camera performance so can The a1
Just to update, the lag issue has not been fixed!
Camcorder still sucks, and the only method to get a smooth video recording, is using the StePaDrums method.
StePaDrums said:
One quick work around (until this issue is properly addressed) is this one:
✓ Download Open Camera from the Play store.
✓ When in low light, manually set video ISO to 3200
✓ Set Scene mode to "Steady Photo" ( I think it works best on our phone.)
✓ Enjoy your smooth video.
I completely agree, the stock camera app is horrendously bad in low light. I believe it has to do more with default settings in auto mode than drivers.
Good luck.
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Just to update, the lag issue has not been fixed!
Camcorder still sucks, and the only method to get a smooth video recording, is using the StePaDrums method.
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Yeah, I kinda hoped that Oreo would fix this but nope. Otherwise I'm very happy with the device. Here's hoping for a fix. ?
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Yeah, I kinda hoped that Oreo would fix this but nope. Otherwise I'm very happy with the device. Here's hoping for a fix. ?
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I am not very happy... Because you can't do an Instagram stories without using Open Camera first...
Selfie camera is terrible! No one here can try porting other libs from other devices using the same model?
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I am not very happy... Because you can't do an Instagram stories without using Open Camera first...
Selfie camera is terrible! No one here can try porting other libs from other devices using the same model?
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That's true. It is definitely a software issue, so hopefully they will fix it.
Use CINEMA FV 5' and 'CAMERA FV 5',as they include lots of manual controls which we can use.
FOR VIDEOS
Open 'CINEMA FV 5' and first select settings from top left corner,then second tab from left then find image parameters option and open it,set contrast to 0 or 1(will work as alternative to HDR in video recording)saturation to 5 or 6 and sharpness to max.You can also select above option by your choice.
Now come back to main screen and set
ISO to auto(for good lighting) or 3200(for low lighting but will increase noise),now point you camera towards the point where the lighting is not too dark or bright and then set the exposure(third option below) control to frame average and lock it by tapping the lock option there.Now set exposure slider to max point where frame are smooth(in low light conditions.In good lighting, set according to your need).
Now when you start recording you may notice frame skips in low lightings,simply slide the exposure slider little bit and it will become smooth again.
You can play with various different controls to get the best result in different situations.
If your video is shaky then you can stabilise it in Google photos by selecting edit option in it at preview screen(Better than nothing).
FOR FRONT CAMERA
Open 'CAMERA FV 5' and select front camera(top right) and then go to setting(top left),then third option from left and find image parameters.open it and set the contrast to 0 or 1,saturation to 4 or 5 and sharpness to maximum.Now return back to main screen and set ISO to auto(for good light)or 3200(for low light) and set the exposure slider according to your need.You can turn on the screen flash for low light situations by selecting flash option in left side.
You're beautiful and everyone knows it. That's why you take selfies. Rate this thread to express how the front-facing camera of the performs. A higher rating indicates that the front camera produces fantastic results consistently.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
#BEAUTYGATE once again.
Even with Master AI turned off, Portrait mode seems to want to smooth my skin and make the brightness horribly bright.
It really ruins the image, I feel the selfie camera, if anything, is worse than my S8 Plus.
The live preview of my selfie just as I am going to take it shows my face "beautified" to the point where even my hair is smoothened (I have black hair so it's really noticeable).
When taking the picture in portrait mode, it tells me it's going to sharpen it so I shouldn't move for a few moments.
The image then comes out, a lot better than the live preview, you can actually see my hair a bit better, however the colour is still horribly off, I'm a semi tan shaded person, however using this front facing camera, I Seem to be extremely light and white.
Please someone tell me it's not just me??
It could be a bug that the live image is making my face extremely smooth and then sharpening it up once I take the picture, but for what reason should it be like this??
Also, the additional modes for the funky colourful backgrounds etc, DO NOT APPEAR for me when using the live preview. It's only when I snap the picture will the image in my gallery appear with the additional effects.
Has someone found the settings to make selfies look good here?
I saw some video camera reviews on yt where selfies look great, but dont tell what settings they use.
anybody knows?
Surely a selfie thread needs example selfies ;o)
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#BEAUTYGATE once again.
Even with Master AI turned off, Portrait mode seems to want to smooth my skin and make the brightness horribly bright.
It really ruins the image, I feel the selfie camera, if anything, is worse than my S8 Plus.
The live preview of my selfie just as I am going to take it shows my face "beautified" to the point where even my hair is smoothened (I have black hair so it's really noticeable).
When taking the picture in portrait mode, it tells me it's going to sharpen it so I shouldn't move for a few moments.
The image then comes out, a lot better than the live preview, you can actually see my hair a bit better, however the colour is still horribly off, I'm a semi tan shaded person, however using this front facing camera, I Seem to be extremely light and white.
Please someone tell me it's not just me??
It could be a bug that the live image is making my face extremely smooth and then sharpening it up once I take the picture, but for what reason should it be like this??
Also, the additional modes for the funky colourful backgrounds etc, DO NOT APPEAR for me when using the live preview. It's only when I snap the picture will the image in my gallery appear with the additional effects.
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This happened to me too i have black dark skin and i look white on the selfie camera its so bright and overexposed. Same thing happens on snapchat
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This happened to me too i have black dark skin and i look white on the selfie camera its so bright and overexposed. Same thing happens on snapchat
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I think that happens due to the image processing and what is desirable in Asian countries. The mass public they designed it for desire a lighter smoother face. But I could be assuming and completely wrong. My S9+ does this too and it drives me nuts. I hope it can be turned off somehow.
My gf just got a mate 20 pro. When we took our first photos together we immediately noticed they were so much whiter as compared to my s9+. Now I'm trying to find a solution so ended up here.
Disable the beauty effect..
in portrait mode you can change warmth so it can have some impact on skin tone.
I have a mate 20x but hence to same camera sensor i got a question... in portrait selfie i dont really get a bokeh effect (until i choose the backround light shapes) is that normal ? i think it should have a normal one too no?
Turn off all beauty features, except 'warmth'. In 'warmth' settings, tap on the most brown color on the left side, resulting in more natural image than none.
If u dont want overexposed face image, tap on the screen of your face first, then snap. But it looks like u loose HDR feature if taking pictures that way.
Hopefully these customer complaints will be addressed in software updates...after all, it's just processing (heavy handed) and not the camera.
That's true, the cameras on these phones is supposed to be top notch. Hopefully Huawei can adjust the software side to improve the results.
Why doesnt the front camera portrait mode blur the background?
It is meant to be like this?
Photo mode and portrait mode looks the same to me ( Front camera)
Some people claim that update 146 improves selfie quality. All I can tell is my lips don't seem to be pinkish as before but the overexposure processing still persists. Skin is pale and lacking details.
I have tried everything, including lowering exposure and choosing the darkest skintone. The photos still look weird. Post editing with google album app helps improve it, but troublesome when you have to share with family or friends.
In the end, I just ditched native camera app for selfie and am using hedgecam app. Lower one level of exposure and I look so much more natural.
I bought three phones from Huawei: Mate 8, P20 Pro, Mate 20 Pro. This problem has exisited since P20 series and still hasn't been addressed. Basically I have given up hopes. It's the Chinese sense of beauty.
pilico said:
Why doesnt the front camera portrait mode blur the background?
It is meant to be like this?
Photo mode and portrait mode looks the same to me ( Front camera)
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you need to click on that star on left bottom corner and choose an effect.
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you need to click on that star on left bottom corner and choose an effect.
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Thanks.
It is weird that we need to enable the blur feature after we select the portrait mode.
Is there any difference between the portrait mode with blur mode off and nornal camera mode?
For selfies, we find the usual smoothing of the skin, but it is not too pronounced here. Huawei pushes the luxury to propose some selfies effects with different backgrounds: pop, folding blinds ... the result don't make me happy.
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I think on .171 update, front camera got huge upgrade on low lights and skin tone looks much more natural now.
Hi. I've just get the unit today. It was exynos and I find out the camera was truly bad at dim condition. Even when comparing s20 ultra to note 9, the note 9 picture was much better. I have update my s20 ultra firmware to the latest from Samsung.
Look at the face. The s20 ultra result was having what looks like compression artifact. But it's right out of the camera without any editing. This only happen in dim condition. And also this happens to face only since other than face there's no artifact at all.
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well for one thing it's blurry from the head moving. Second i agree it looks like $hit (no offense to your baby!)
I have no advice other than to say it's unbelievable we could pay $1400 for such an unfinished product..steadily I am losing more and more faith in samsung. At least you were able to get the camera to focus!
We all have similar issues and I think that all of us waiting for the next SW update are customers with a lot of faith. At least Samsung admitted it and if they cannot fix it with the next update then probably most of the phones will be returned.
did you know the 108 megapixel is not on by default? youll have to change the aspect ratio and before you take a picture it should show from the settings which megapixel you are using.
Same. It's very blurry / grainy (yet unnecessarily oversharpened) at the same time in low indoor lighting.
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At least Samsung admitted it and if they cannot fix it with the next update then probably most of the phones will be returned.
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Can you link me?
xnostra said:
did you know the 108 megapixel is not on by default? youll have to change the aspect ratio and before you take a picture it should show from the settings which megapixel you are using.
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What? The post has nothing to do with (and no mention of) the 108mp mode.
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Can you link me?
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They didn't admit anything. It was I think a Twitter post that said something like "Samsung is committed to delivering the best experience for their customers, blah blah blah constantly working to improve experiences for everyone."
It was generic like that
There was an answer to The Verge that they will work on to deliver the best camera experience. Yes it was generic but camera oriented and it is good that they responded.
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did you know the 108 megapixel is not on by default? youll have to change the aspect ratio and before you take a picture it should show from the settings which megapixel you are using.
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I'm not talking about the 108mpx. Also the 108mpx didn't help with the pict quality.
For now the only solution is to use pro mode.
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I'm not talking about the 108mpx. Also the 108mpx didn't help with the pict quality.
For now the only solution is to use pro mode.
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Have you turned off bixby scene optimizer? Watched a YT video earlier that claimed turning it off gets rid of the awful skin smoothing effects.
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Have you turned off bixby scene optimizer? Watched a YT video earlier that claimed turning it off gets rid of the awful skin smoothing effects.
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Yes I've try it. No luck at all. The skin smoothing still happening
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Yes I've try it. No luck at all. The skin smoothing still happening
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I did a pic of myself after the ATBM update and my skin colour was the same as when I turned my head 90 degrees to the side. There was also no smoothing and I could see my pores and other natural stuff
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I did a pic of myself after the ATBM update and my skin colour was the same as when I turned my head 90 degrees to the side. There was also no smoothing and I could see my pores and other natural stuff
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Did you use your selfie or the main sensor?
If you are using main sensor, could you try using auto mode and Pro mode and share the result to here? Also cna you snap your picture in dim area, since I notice the processing occurred in a dim area was more aggressive than on a bright area.
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Did you use your selfie or the main sensor?
If you are using main sensor, could you try using auto mode and Pro mode and share the result to here? Also cna you snap your picture in dim area, since I notice the processing occurred in a dim area was more aggressive than on a bright area.
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I have used the main sensor and it was at work during day time with not bad light conditions. I will give it a try in light dimmed area and give you feedback.
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I have used the main sensor and it was at work during day time with not bad light conditions. I will give it a try in light dimmed area and give you feedback.
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Thanks. And also try move your head slightly when you snap the photo. I'm interested on the result.
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Thanks. And also try move your head slightly when you snap the photo. I'm interested on the result.
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This. I noticed in your first picture the hair on your child's head is blurry. I have a feeling what happened is there was motion in the photo and in trying to fix the motion created all of the weird artifact effect. you'll notice the hair from your note 9 photo is sharp and clear, likely because there was no motion while the photo was taken.
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This. I noticed in your first picture the hair on your child's head is blurry. I have a feeling what happened is there was motion in the photo and in trying to fix the motion created all of the weird artifact effect. you'll notice the hair from your note 9 photo is sharp and clear, likely because there was no motion while the photo was taken.
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The movement was indeed making the artifact worsen. But it also happen in no movement condition.
S20 ultra bad image processing
In this pict, the baby wasn't moving much (minimal movement) .
Movement make it worse.
This picture was in very bright room, the child wasn't moving and the artefact still happening, and take a look at the woman on the background. The artefact was really annoying
Yes I agree. I just took a photo of the news on TV and the anchors faces look like oil painting. How could Samsung have screwed up this badly...it's really unbelievable. And how more people aren't making afuss, I also don't understand.
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Yes I agree. I just took a photo of the news on TV and the anchors faces look like oil painting. How could Samsung have screwed up this badly...it's really unbelievable. And how more people aren't making afuss, I also don't understand.
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Yeah, I don't know what's going with the silence.
For now I'm using the pro mode with all settings set to auto. This way the picture processing won't happen and the picture was very good.
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The movement was indeed making the artifact worsen. But it also happen in no movement condition.
S20 ultra bad image processing
In this pict, the baby wasn't moving much (minimal movement) .
Movement make it worse.
This picture was in very bright room, the child wasn't moving and the artefact still happening, and take a look at the woman on the background. The artefact was really annoying
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It seems that the artifacts come from very bad hdr stitching. Try to take some photos with scene optimiser and hdr off, although it would probably make very little difference. The reason some other phones like pixel and iPhone cand take better shots of moving subjects is because they use something called zero shutter combined with a faster shutter. It means that the phone takes a lot of pictures before the picture is taken. Now, Samsung also uses a buffer since s9 with dedicated dram for the camera but probably is much lower and their hdr stiching is not as smart as Google's for example (accounting for movement in the frame). After all this time you'd think Samsung would figure this out but not many companies do this sadly). Also the big sensor that gathers more light should allow the phone to use faster shutter and bigger iso without introducing much more noise ala huwei.