Hi Community,
i am really new to smartphone hardware and dont have much knowledge, so sorry if my question is a bit stupid ^^
I am owning an UMI Zero with the Sony IMX214 Exmor 13 MP Camera Sensor. With the original Software this sensor produces so much noise, the pictures really aren`t good.
So i was locking for other devices ( Phone´s / Dashcams ) with exactly the same Sensor. For me it seems like that other devices handle this sensor way better than my Phone.
Also this Sensor should not be bad i`ve read. So i wonder if there is any way to tweak my cam ? I installed a Custom Rom on my Umi and it really feels like pictures are looking much better now.
Also i`ve read ssenssor specifications and saw that this sensor is able to record 4k in 30 fps. Is it possible to unlock this features somehow? Is anyone willed to help / explain me why or why not? Is it more a hardware thing like Digital Analog Conveerters which are used or OP amps which are used in hadrware? Or is there a way
that Software can improve this really much ? Maybe there is a possibility to install another camera driver to my Phone?
PS: I am really sorry if this is the wrong section ! I am pretty new to this forum, if anything is wrong pls tell me !
Thank you very much !
Greetings,
Dom
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I m new here. Need a guide, is there any quality to improve VGA camera in XDA2? since it has tonnes of grain.
I also see the thread that mini camera only slightly better than XDA2.
That's why I still considering to change to mini, since I am a photo camera maniac.
Very thank you if anybody can answer my confuse:
a) What s the purpose to upgrade radio version ? will it void the warranty? I still have 5 months warranty left.
b) Kindly guide me how to do that.
many thanks
I would like to start a project to make a better camera app.
In other posts there are people talking about the bad quality of the chip or the lens.
I think they are right about that, but I think the program itself could be better.
I think there is a lot of compression made in the program.
Now I'm not a programmer so that is my problem.
What I am interested about is to get a picture right from the chip. Without any compression and without any contrast, sharpness and brightness adjustment. Then we really know how bad the chip and lens are. After that we can try to adjust some things and look at compression.
Is there anybody crazy enough to create anything like this?
If it works we might be able to get real photos out of our Wizard
Feel free to react or correct me if I'm wrong
I really wouldn't put any effort into a handset-camera... they generally still suck (mostly). you can't get any quality when the source is bad... And the compression itself won't change too much here (I've ripped the cam out of my wizard, if you see that 8x8mm thing you *know* that can't be any good )
If you would rip the chip out of the new sony cydershop it wil also be a tiny 8X8mm chip.
It stil is a 1.3 Mpixel chip. I think the lens is our biggest problem.
making a nice contrastcurve could help a lot
yep, the lenseis one of the biggest problems... I should have mentioned, that the 8x8mm thing was the *complete* camera module, including lense of course the CCD in a "normal" digital camera isn't big either, but at least there's appropriate surroundings... but probably some work on the camera software could better the results...
You can get add on lenses not sure how good they are from the link below
http://mobile.brando.com.hk/MobileLensCombo2.php
or
http://modtown.co.uk/mt/review2.php?id=amacroxlens
if you try them let us know how they work
Rob
Hi guys. I was thinking about the camera of the ipaq 614c - it sucks. But is it the camera hardware or just the software. My gues is the software. I have tried Cool camera and the barcode recognition software Barcorama. It seems they both capture images from the camera and none of the blurry and distorted "effects" are present. The only problem is that Cool Camera doesn't work properly with the ipaq and the image is always rotated 90 degrees and shrinked
so it's no use for now. My question is : Is there a newer (and probably better) version of the Arc Soft camera software. As you know, they don't sell it as a separate piece of software - they sell it to manufactures to implement it into roms. I saw there are new versions that support image stabilization, smile detection and so on. Is there any phone that has that superior software and would it work with the ipaq camera.
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Hi guys. I was thinking about the camera of the ipaq 614c - it sucks. But is it the camera hardware or just the software. My gues is the software. I have tried Cool camera and the barcode recognition software Barcorama. It seems they both capture images from the camera and none of the blurry and distorted "effects" are present. The only problem is that Cool Camera doesn't work properly with the ipaq and the image is always rotated 90 degrees and shrinked
so it's no use for now. My question is : Is there a newer (and probably better) version of the Arc Soft camera software. As you know, they don't sell it as a separate piece of software - they sell it to manufactures to implement it into roms. I saw there are new versions that support image stabilization, smile detection and so on. Is there any phone that has that superior software and would it work with the ipaq camera.
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Nope, it's the hardware that sucks. No matter what soft u throw at it, u won't get better images. It's the lens that's in no relation with the CMOS-chip
Dirk
Are you sure
Yes, technically speaking, this is what causes most of the cameras to suck.
Lens aberation and so on. BUT.
I have some experience in photography and physics and the things i see here are not due to the lens (at least not only)
If you have noticed that some of the images get distorted in a strange way (something like a photoshop filter "twirl") - that's not the lens, as it happens only from time to time on some photos. I must say that blutty and coloured images on the edges are probably because of the lens, but the other things are due to poor software. I have taken images with still hands and they sometimes come out very well. But when you move even a little - the photo is blurry as hell.
So, if someone has an idea of an alternative camera App that might work, i'm willing to help with whatever I can - say can we make Cool camera work on the ipaq, or some other camera application extracted from another phone.
axlastro said:
Yes, technically speaking, this is what causes most of the cameras to suck.
Lens aberation and so on. BUT.
I have some experience in photography and physics and the things i see here are not due to the lens (at least not only)
If you have noticed that some of the images get distorted in a strange way (something like a photoshop filter "twirl") - that's not the lens, as it happens only from time to time on some photos. I must say that blutty and coloured images on the edges are probably because of the lens, but the other things are due to poor software. I have taken images with still hands and they sometimes come out very well. But when you move even a little - the photo is blurry as hell.
So, if someone has an idea of an alternative camera App that might work, i'm willing to help with whatever I can - say can we make Cool camera work on the ipaq, or some other camera application extracted from another phone.
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Hi,
Yes, i'm sure ... As u say urself, even moving a little makes the pic blurry. In fact it's almost impossible to have a 'rocksteady' hand, cos of the relative high power u need to press the button. And again ; the lens is much to close on the chip and much to sharply bent to give good images. Just take a pic and look at it. U'll see that the sides are showing almost everything on the left or right from u. Looks like HP built a combined 28-35mm lens on 4mm²...
It's even better viewable when u take panoramapics ... then u get a kind of 'ondulated' result.
The only real solution would be : removing the lens and put something more apropriate in....
Dirk
Well that's an argument I wouldn't disagree with. I have noticed that "fish eye" effect in panoramic shots and the built-it blur effect on the edges of the image.
That's it - the camera is on par with an old 1.3Mpx siemens M75 and a lot suckier than the fixed focus cameras in samsung i600 and motorola Q9. Can't they learn it's not about the megapixels. Oh wait, they know it, but your average custumer doesn't. Whatever. Hp - never again dor a lot more reasons than the camera, which i actually don't use that much, but still...
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Well that's an argument I wouldn't disagree with. I have noticed that "fish eye" effect in panoramic shots and the built-it blur effect on the edges of the image.
That's it - the camera is on par with an old 1.3Mpx siemens M75 and a lot suckier than the fixed focus cameras in samsung i600 and motorola Q9. Can't they learn it's not about the megapixels. Oh wait, they know it, but your average custumer doesn't. Whatever. Hp - never again dor a lot more reasons than the camera, which i actually don't use that much, but still...
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Right, you got it Even more surprising is the fact that HP has the techno for building decent pictureboxes (i have one ), but it seems impossible to use that technology to put a decent cam in a phone. Might be cos of the size ? The smaller you have it, the worse gets the pics... bottomline : phones are not pictureboxes, and will never be.
Dirk
Speaking of the camera i have only 1 question ( dumb ) ...how do you zoom ? Haven't found this option !
you can only zoom when you are not in max resolution (3M), change to lower and you can zoom, the zoom slider is on the left side and you can use keypad (6 & 4) to control too
Maybe i'm missing basic photo knowledge but, the bigger the resolution ,smaller the zoom ?
at least that's how the ipaq work, i have no idea about the reason but then you don't really expect it can zoom much since then lens can't really move much like a real camera anyway
keyx said:
at least that's how the ipaq work, i have no idea about the reason but then you don't really expect it can zoom much since then lens can't really move much like a real camera anyway
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Hi,
It's an electonic zoom, nothing to do with the lens. If you want to 'zoom' the software uses an alogorithm to recalculate the picture and display the 'center' part of it as larger (zoomed). Gives nice distortions too
Dirk
as I definitely won't use my camera, do you know a program that can use the led of the camera as a flash light and that works on 614C ?
I tried nuelight and torchbutton but none of them work on this device ...
Hi everyone, do you have a cab with the latest and greatest camera sw with autofocus which works with Jade? My wife complains about poor quality of the pictures and I was appointed to search for a solution.Thx in advance.
does she use the maximum capacity of camera? I mean 3M.
ady_uaic said:
does she use the maximum capacity of camera? I mean 3M.
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yes, of course.
the ideea is first to have the autofocus implemented, since the current camera sw which is coming with the phone seems not to have this feature. Thx for help.
a. am inteles. incerc sa fac un rom si eu momentan, si caut idei, sugestii, etc .
AFAIK, autofocus is a mechanical feature of cameras...
So I don't think any software will be able to provide autofocus, unless Jade has it but HTC did not implement it, which I doubt...
avutza said:
Hi everyone, do you have a cab with the latest and greatest camera sw with autofocus which works with Jade? My wife complains about poor quality of the pictures and I was appointed to search for a solution.Thx in advance.
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Buy a phone that does what you want it to do, don't imagine you can magically make one you buy do everything you want it to.
izzyzc said:
AFAIK, autofocus is a mechanical feature of cameras...
So I don't think any software will be able to provide autofocus, unless Jade has it but HTC did not implement it, which I doubt...
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Yes, focusing is about the movement of the lens, so it is merely mechanical.
Anyway, the Jade camera can still take pic in acceptable quality if:
1) there is sufficient light source (eg outdoor under briight sun-shine)
2) keep sufficient distant from the objects (eg 1 meter or above)
3) keep your hand still as you can when taking photos
when people speak they should know about what they are speaking or stay quiet!!!
unlike what everyone said here it´s not just a mechanical question it´s also a software issue because i inserted a htc touch diamond camera on the htc jade and no autofocus function was available with the camera but diamond has autofocus and you know what pictures with jade lens here actually better.. so instead of speaking without knowing you should be quiet!!!
hey if you want to download jarfx then click on the link
Hello all,
Now that there are so many great devs supporting our device there is a question that i would like to ask.
Is there any possibility to optimize and add OIS through custom roms in the near future?
If i am not wrong the quality on OP3,GP is better(even with google camera) due to their software during the img processing. It would be splendid to have the camera improved even by a small margin.
I also want to clarify that i am not circle jerking about the camera, i am humbly asking if such software upgrade would be possible.
Thanks!
Ois is hardware dependant. Yes, op3 has same sensor, but with ois implemented. You cant have it by some software tweaks
But there is EIS, so electronik stabilization. Maybe this helps?
Thanks for the responses. I havent really make any research regarding mobile phone sensors so i could only guess.
If OIS is out of question due to being hardware dependent, then what about the image processing?
As far as i have seen its mostly software dependent so do you think that we could get better quality ?(i.e better night shots)
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But there is EIS, so electronik stabilization. Maybe this helps?
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Cant see EIS on the stock came( i meant an enabler)
Yes it is not activ, bit maybe the devs could integrate it. It should be possible because no extra Hardware is needed.
You need sources and blobs and stuff. Its not that simple, wouldnt bet on it happening. Only realistic way is if leeco themselfes push update with improved quality
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You need sources and blobs and stuff. Its not that simple, wouldnt bet on it happening. Only realistic way is if leeco themselfes push update with improved quality
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That sounds good, but i usw lineage OS and therefore the leeco updates are useless?