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For those that have rooted...

Can you kindly check your phones to see if quad band UMTS is supported? Very curious to see if 850/1900 3g/HSPA are supported out of the box.
I think on the SGS, the code to view bands was *#2263#
Many thanks in advance!

2100, 1900, 900, 850

Epedemic said:
2100, 1900, 900, 850
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Sweet! Just made my day
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Epedemic said:
2100, 1900, 900, 850
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Pics or it didn't happen.
Seriously, though, I'll sleep a lot better if I can get a screenshot showing that.

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That doesn't mean they are working. Many android phones show freqs in the service menu that they are not capable of.

nomisunrider said:
That doesn't mean they are working. Many android phones show freqs in the service menu that they are not capable of.
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Yes, but in stock form, those bands are NEVER enabled. Stock SGS only (and accurately) showed 3 bands enabled for WCDMA in automatic mode (see below), so this is VERY good news!
Thanks a bunch guys!!!

Any reason why expansys is telling their customers that the phones are locked down to two bands?

ph00ny said:
Any reason why expansys is telling their customers that the phones are locked down to two bands?
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Well, like I asked the other gentleman who said he talked to "Expansys employees that claim to have been playing with an I9100 and it only showed 2 bands for UMTS supported"... HOW did Expansys do this exactly?
If it was Expansys in the UK (which is the only location where they would have the handsets at this time), they can't test the 850/1900 bands. Then, at the time they claimed to have seen only dual UMTS band support, root wasn't available so no way could they have checked the actual bands enabled.
My guess: They were talking out of their ass.

Its normal for only two 3G bands to be enabled at once in my own experience with unlocked phones. There may be exceptions but I havent run into them over quite a few phones from moto, SE HTC or nokia. I had read this was due to battery life and the fact that you are not going to be anywhere where you can use three of them. The question is I think if expansys knew what they were doing when they tried to switch to the 850/1900. The phone would have needed to be rooted I believe based on what I read and whether they took this step is an unknown. If they had switched over the fact that it showed 850/1900 enabled and they were dumped to 2G would be pretty good evidence it worked. I am surprised we have not yet had anyone drop an at&t sim in a rooted phone yet and put this to rest. My trigger button is most twitchy.....

krabman said:
Its normal for only two 3G bands to be enabled at once in my own experience with unlocked phones. There may be exceptions but I havent run into them over quite a few phones from moto, SE HTC or nokia.
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Don't know about all those other phones, but if you look at my Samsung Galaxy S (unlocked) automatic band selection screenshot for 3g/WCMDA, it accurately only has the 3 supported bands enabled. 850, which its hardware does not support, is automatically disabled.
If these I9100s are on automatic mode, then I fully believe that 850 is indeed supported.

The point is that normally only two of them will actually work at once, not three or four. They can all be enabled but enabled and actually working at the same time is a different story.
edit... You keep on preaching to the choir btw, I think it works too, my point all along is you dont know it works until it actually does. Been right here in this exact spot and burned before. Dont think it will happen in this case but it can happen. For me when someone has it working it works. Until then I think it should work but dont know for a fact. Neither do you. As of my typing this not a single person has reported it working on AT&T bands or even being able to actually switch to and enable them in any search I have done which would last be about as long as it took me to type this ago.

Many phones shows frequencies in the service menu that they are not capable of. For example, the T-mobile G2X...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13039472&highlight=menu#post13039259
I agree that it "should" work, but like the g2x, we will not know for sure until someone actually does it.

krabman said:
The point is that normally only two of them will actually work at once, not three or four. They can all be enabled but enabled and actually working at the same time is a different story.
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Yeah, I think we're again in violent agreement, that's why I'm not preaching to you specifically. BTW, where is the technical proof that since my SGS has 3 UMTS bands enabled default, only 2 of them work at anytime? I work in antenna design, and from my understanding of band selection for most wireless chips, they don't necessarily work in pairs.
nomisunrider said:
Many phones shows frequencies in the service menu that they are not capable of. For example, the T-mobile G2X...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13039472&highlight=menu#post13039259
I agree that it "should" work, but like the g2x, we will not know for sure until someone actually does it.
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Your screen only shows that you can personally enable whatever band you want, doesn't show your phone's actual DEFAULTED/automatic mode enabled bands. You're not showing what every I9100 user above is showing. I hate to say it, but seriously, apples & oranges.
Since you're really bent on proving a point, can you show me which bands were ACTUALLY enabled with that g2x after you click on "Automatic?" Then, we'd be comparing the same thing.

Clove says SGSII will work on ATT bands
I have it in writing. I asked them directly and the response is below:
Apr 27
Hello, yes the Samsung Galaxy S 2 has been confirmed to work with AT&T voice and data network across the USA
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Sales Team
Clove Technology
TEL: +44 (0)1202 552936
FAX: +44 (0)1202 552937
Email: [email protected]
Website: www.clove.co.uk

Sebring5 said:
I have it in writing. I asked them directly and the response is below:
Apr 27
Hello, yes the Samsung Galaxy S 2 has been confirmed to work with AT&T voice and data network across the USA
Regards
Sales Team
Clove Technology
TEL: +44 (0)1202 552936
FAX: +44 (0)1202 552937
Email: [email protected]
Website: www.clove.co.uk
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Thanks a bunch, but their response is a bit vague as they could be talking about just 2G/Edge + Voice over quad-band GSM. We are debating the quad-band UMTS 3G/HSPA support that is specified on Samsung's website, but has been challenged as of late.

cmd512 said:
Thanks a bunch, but their response is a bit vague as they could be talking about just 2G/Edge + Voice over quad-band GSM. We are debating the quad-band UMTS 3G/HSPA support that is specified on Samsung's website, but has been challenged as of late.
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This was the question put to them:
Will this phone support all ATT voice and data frequencies? I plan to use it with an ATT sim card. If it will not work with the ATT sim card, I need to cancel the order. The phone will be useless to me.
Their answer on April 27:
Hello yes the Samsung Galaxy S 2 has been confirmed to work with AT&T voice and data network across the USA
Regards
Sales Team
Clove Technology

Sebring5 said:
This was the question put to them:
Will this phone support all ATT voice and data frequencies? I plan to use it with an ATT sim card. If it will not work with the ATT sim card, I need to cancel the order. The phone will be useless to me.
Their answer:
Hello yes the Samsung Galaxy S 2 has been confirmed to work with AT&T voice and data network across the USA
Regards
Sales Team
Clove Technology
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Right, but you didn't specify 3G/HSPA speeds on AT&T data. UMTS/3G bands are separate from your normal GSM quad-bands. The GSM quad-bands will still give you AT&T voice and data, but the data portion will only be 2G/Edge speeds at best.
Hope this helps to clarify why Clove's response is somewhat vague.

No LTE on XT1053 W/ AT&T

So the story goes like this...
I had a Nexus 5 but sold it because I didn't like the big size. So I then went to a Moto X XT1058 and wanted to root/unlock for tethering etc. Then I realized I couldn't do that so I sold that for the Developer Edition XT1053. Now I've unlocked and rooted on 4.4.2 stock rom.
Only problem is that with my XT 1053 doesn't have any LTE and it only shows 4G and the speeds reflect it. Now I do know the XT1053 is somewhat a t-mobile model more so then the 1058 and it might be missing some LTE bands but according to what I've read the band that's missing isn't really used in the US?
Well I'm in Vermont and I had LTE on the XT1058 version but not with the XT1053 :/
Is Vermont the only place that the missing band effects?
I even did more things to test this... I got a new sim card and made sure LTE was provisioned on the account, I did an IMEI change to have my plan show I'm using the XT1058 AT&T version because I've heard if AT&T doesn't recognize the imei then they limit you at HSDPA.
Can I mod something or flash something to get LTE?! I love the developer edtion but I want to have my cake and eat it too.
TL;DR I dont get LTE on my XT1053 even though other people do from what I've read. Even after new roms and IMEI changes.

evilp8ntballer7 said:
So the story goes like this...
I had a Nexus 5 but sold it because I didn't like the big size. So I then went to a Moto X XT1058 and wanted to root/unlock for tethering etc. Then I realized I couldn't do that so I sold that for the Developer Edition XT1053. Now I've unlocked and rooted on 4.4.2 stock rom.
Only problem is that with my XT 1053 doesn't have any LTE and it only shows 4G and the speeds reflect it. Now I do know the XT1053 is somewhat a t-mobile model more so then the 1058 and it might be missing some LTE bands but according to what I've read the band that's missing isn't really used in the US?
Well I'm in Vermont and I had LTE on the XT1058 version but not with the XT1053 :/
Is Vermont the only place that the missing band effects?
I even did more things to test this... I got a new sim card and made sure LTE was provisioned on the account, I did an IMEI change to have my plan show I'm using the XT1058 AT&T version because I've heard if AT&T doesn't recognize the imei then they limit you at HSDPA.
Can I mod something or flash something to get LTE?! I love the developer edtion but I want to have my cake and eat it too.
TL;DR I dont get LTE on my XT1053 even though other people do from what I've read. Even after new roms and IMEI changes.
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4G=LTE? or i'm seriously missing something
EDIT: I just remembered that tmo icons use 4G for hsdpa and 4GLTE for lte.

On AT&T 4G is HSPA+, I believe, but not LTE
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geekabilly said:
On AT&T 4G is HSPA+, I believe, but not LTE
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Right I believe so, I have flashed many other roms. Even CM11, Gummyrom, Liquid smooth, etc
All in hopes that some would enable the LTE but none did, some roms showed H+ but still about the same speeds. One rom even locked me at 3G only.
Everywhere I've read people say that the XT1053 will work fine on AT&T LTE but am I the only person that is effected?
I wish their was a site that showed the lte bands that are in use per state/area so i can compare.

I'm in Connecticut and get LTE and HSPA+, depending on location, on my 1053
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geekabilly said:
I'm in Connecticut and get LTE and HSPA+, depending on location, on my 1053
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So your icon shows LTE instead of 4G W/ your att sim?

I am getting AT&T LTE on my TMO/XT1053 in Philadelphia. The notification bar icon is different than the one used on the AT&T Moto X. I think AT&T wanted to make it more obvious.
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yar2 said:
I am getting AT&T LTE on my TMO/XT1053 in Philadelphia. The notification bar icon is different than the one used on the AT&T Moto X. I think AT&T wanted to make it more obvious.
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hmmm. Thanks. Anyway you could post your APN settings? Maybe a screen shot
I did some more research and found that the motox XT1053 is missing LTE bands 5 & 7 according to this page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moto_X
but then it shows AT&T USA not even using bands 5 or 7 here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
so what does that mean?

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Not sure how to get APN on this
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I believe it has to do with the frequency used in the area. Band and freq are both used. Even though it says 850, 1700, or 1900. There is a band width of 15MHz blocks.
I feel this is better representation of the freq and bands used. According to this Band 5 on Freq 850
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_frequencies
aswell as this from ATT which states they use the 1900 and 850
http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=14003
Tmobile moto x don't have band 5. Vermont is hilly (I am from West Virginia, I consider the Appalachian mountains hills lol). ATT may use band 5 there because it will have better penetration against the hills.
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There's a combination of dial pad keys usually, #56* etc.
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evilp8ntballer7 said:
hmmm. Thanks. Anyway you could post your APN settings? Maybe a screen shot
I did some more research and found that the motox XT1053 is missing LTE bands 5 & 7 according to this page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moto_X
but then it shows AT&T USA not even using bands 5 or 7 here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
so what does that mean?
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Attached are 3 screen shots of the APN settings for "AT&T Phone" on my XT1053.
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southern87 said:
I believe it has to do with the frequency used in the area. Band and freq are both used. Even though it says 850, 1700, or 1900. There is a band width of 15MHz blocks.
I feel this is better representation of the freq and bands used. According to this Band 5 on Freq 850
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_frequencies
aswell as this from ATT which states they use the 1900 and 850
http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=14003
Tmobile moto x don't have band 5. Vermont is hilly (I am from West Virginia, I consider the Appalachian mountains hills lol). ATT may use band 5 there because it will have better penetration against the hills.
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Attached are 3 screen shots of the APN settings for "AT&T Phone" on my XT1053.
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Thanks for the screen shots, mine are the same so we know its not the apn settings as an issue.
Also @ southern87 I'm worried that may be the case that in VT AT&T uses LTE on band 5 and I'm only stuck on "3.5G" speeds that are about 5down and 2up on a good day.
Anyone know if this is a hardware limitation or a software hack we can change like the nexus 4 lte band issue.

evilp8ntballer7 said:
Thanks for the screen shots, mine are the same so we know its not the apn settings as an issue.
Also @ southern87 I'm worried that may be the case that in VT AT&T uses LTE on band 5 and I'm only stuck on "3.5G" speeds that are about 5down and 2up on a good day.
Anyone know if this is a hardware limitation or a software hack we can change like the nexus 4 lte band issue.
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I had this same issue in VT on my XT1053 back in December. I consulted with AT&T, who told me they are using Band 5 in VT for LTE. I then consulted with Motorola via G+, who told me that the XT1053 does not and never will support Band 5 LTE. I can't post a link because I don't post on XDA enough. Do a G+ search for "Moto X Band 5 LTE" and see my post on December 30, 2013. Matt Jones from Motorola confirmed the lack of Band 5 in the comments.
I switched to the XT1058.

zrand007 said:
I had this same issue in VT on my XT1053 back in December. I consulted with AT&T, who told me they are using Band 5 in VT for LTE. I then consulted with Motorola via G+, who told me that the XT1053 does not and never will support Band 5 LTE. I can't post a link because I don't post on XDA enough. Do a G+ search for "Moto X Band 5 LTE" and see my post on December 30, 2013. Matt Jones from Motorola confirmed the lack of Band 5 in the comments.
I switched to the XT1058.
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I found it here: https://plus.google.com/+ZacharyRand/posts/TkMxVvgAGbJ
Dang thats the same problem I have. 4down and 2up isn't really good when my Nexus 5 had I think 15down and 6up but it was just to big for my hands.
Thanks for letting me know. Its such a shame, I actually have both the XT1058 and XT1053 in front of me but opted for the XT1053 for the bootloader unlockability/tethering etc.
I guess my only hope is that down the road they (AT&T) could use another LTE band in VT and then it would solve the problem in a different way.
Is thier any indication that AT&T would move off the band 5 to use another band for a better reason?

evilp8ntballer7 said:
I found it here: https://plus.google.com/+ZacharyRand/posts/TkMxVvgAGbJ
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I guess my only hope is that down the road they (AT&T) could use another LTE band in VT and then it would solve the problem in a different way.
Is thier any indication that AT&T would move off the band 5 to use another band for a better reason?
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AFAIK AT&T just started using LTE Band 5 in USA recently, so I think it is not likely they would abandon it.
FWIW I use 1053 on GoPhone in NYC and it almost always shows 4G LTE.

Is it possible to flash NON-HLOS.img (radio image) from the AT&T flash files and enable the other bands on the XT1053, or is there an actual hardware limitation? Usually, the amplifiers are tuned, but you might be able to get something, unless the baseband throws a hissy fit. You don't need 1700MHz 2G as that's only for T-Mobile.
Legally, Moto would have to re-certify the XT1053 for band 5 LTE, which is why it'll never officially support it.

Are you using the exact same SIM you were using for the Nexus 5 that worked with LTE? I thought you have to have something provisioned for LTE to be working in the first place.
My wife and I both have 1053's that work with LTE on AT&T. We've both used it with LTE successfully in Chicago +suburbs, Austin, Houston, and Dallas.

The hardware is different between the xt1053 and xt1058, no amount of flashing will add the band you require to get LTE in your area.

[Q] Samsung SG Note 4 SM-N910C T-Mobile Network

Hello,
I recently bought the phone off ebay. It stated that this phone has the Band 4, 1700 and 2100 frequency. When I look at other sites with the same note 4 N910C model, it stated that the model does not support the 1700 mhz but only the 2100.
The seller gave me the samsung website and below stated that this phone supports B4 (AWS). Is that the same as 1700 and 2100 that T-mobile uses?
Can anyone confirm that the phone will work with my T-mobile network at 3g, 4g, or 4g LTE? I am in the USA and zip code 91746 if that matters. thanx!
The link of the phone i bought is below.
@ ebay website : /itm/221568854102?_trksid=p2060778.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
@ Samsung website: /ae/consumer/mobile-phones/galaxy-note/galaxy-note/SM-N910CZDEXSG
Won't let me post links as I am new. Sorry!

kilalachick said:
Hello,
I recently bought the phone off ebay. It stated that this phone has the Band 4, 1700 and 2100 frequency. When I look at other sites with the same note 4 N910C model, it stated that the model does not support the 1700 mhz but only the 2100.
The seller gave me the samsung website and below stated that this phone supports B4 (AWS). Is that the same as 1700 and 2100 that T-mobile uses?
Can anyone confirm that the phone will work with my T-mobile network at 3g, 4g, or 4g LTE? I am in the USA and zip code 91746 if that matters. thanx!
The link of the phone i bought is below.
@ ebay website : /itm/221568854102?_trksid=p2060778.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
@ Samsung website: /ae/consumer/mobile-phones/galaxy-note/galaxy-note/SM-N910CZDEXSG
Won't let me post links as I am new. Sorry!
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I guess you don't have the phone yet, but you may need to actually test it yourself. So far I have not seen any successful 910c units reported to get 4G in the US. That does not mean that you will be unable but the info is just not there(correct me if wrong).
Apparently both bands are needed-one band for out and another for inbound signal.
Good luck, I have been watching this as well.

I'm using mine in TMO Puerto Rico
I'm using my N910c in T-Mobile Puerto Rico and I get LTE. The only issue I have is a weak voice signal in places where I used to have better coverage. But I don't have problems with the data at all, at least as of now. Maybe in Puerto Rico LTE for Tmo is configured differently, but my LTE is working.
One thing I can tell you is that the package doesn't lists 1700 band in LTE AWS. But mine works ok on Tmo PR's network at least.

according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks#Americas
tmobile uses many blocks of 1700, depending on regions,but only on 1900 and 1700 mhz , and AWS is the one wrongly called 1700/2100 (1710 to 1755 uplink, and from 2110 to 2155 MHz downlink)
so in theory it has everything you need for tmobile in any area, maybe you need an update , check that no one messed with flashing your radio to some other model to make it work on their area

Hi i have 910C i can get a 4G signal i live in nyc my speeds are about 17 over 20 averagely and at best 30 over 30 hope that helps .

From what I can tell, you will probably be able to use it, but you said N910C, but linked us to an N910U. Either way I'll post my findings for both.
T-Mobile's bands are 2, 4, 5, and 12.
N910U's bands are 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, and 28.
N910C's bands are 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 17, and 20.
I'm new to this stuff, but this tells me that either one will mostly support T-Mobile. I would use an app to see which band you're currently utilizing on your phone, and pray that it isn't 12, cuz neither one will work.
Bonus: From what I can tell, the N910C will work completely on AT&T. :good:

Guys, any news if the Galaxy Note 4 SM N910C accept lte 1700. Becuase it was about to get it from a store. But like the picture above of the box it doesnt specifies the 1700 network. And the LTE in my country uses the lte 4 1700/2100.
Regards,
Luis

gumichi said:
Guys, any news if the Galaxy Note 4 SM N910C accept lte 1700. Becuase it was about to get it from a store. But like the picture above of the box it doesnt specifies the 1700 network. And the LTE in my country uses the lte 4 1700/2100.
Regards,
Luis
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The box lists it as AWS, which is band 4.

gumichi said:
Guys, any news if the Galaxy Note 4 SM N910C accept lte 1700. Becuase it was about to get it from a store. But like the picture above of the box it doesnt specifies the 1700 network. And the LTE in my country uses the lte 4 1700/2100.
Regards,
Luis
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Did you ever buy it?
If so how is it working?
I'm in the same boat and would like to know as well

Fixed the 4g issue!
I have the N919c from UAE and I got it to work on 4g for tmobile by calling SUPPORT.
When we use auto assign to 4g network through the data settings it will not automatically pick the correct Tmobile APNs. The support rep told me what to type line by line to get it perfect and I'm on 4g as I type this. You have to call them to get the correct values for your region but we DEFINITELY CAN GET 4G IN THE USA! I'm in Tampa Bay Florida with 4g in the ghetto, lol
Yayz ☺

tiguy99 said:
Did you ever buy it?
If so how is it working?
I'm in the same boat and would like to know as well
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http://www.expansys-usa.com/samsung-galaxy-note-4-n910c-unlocked-lte-32gb-gold-283790/
scroll down where it list network compatibility

imeem said:
http://www.expansys-usa.com/samsung-galaxy-note-4-n910c-unlocked-lte-32gb-gold-283790/
scroll down where it list network compatibility
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Thank you for that however I was wondering how his personal experience was using the Note 4
I do appreciate you sharing the link by the way

tiguy99 said:
Thank you for that however I was wondering how his personal experience was using the Note 4
I do appreciate you sharing the link by the way
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Everything is good. coming from the nexus 4, i feel i have more control in my device (excluding the rooting and unlocking situation), due to microsd card, removable battery, and usb otg. Performance-wise, I think this phone will last me a very long time (if not probably my last phone upgrade). I don't game much so as long as apps, video and music playback, and web browsing is fast. When the battery falls below standard, i can easily just buy a new one from a reputable third party.
I just notice some "build quality" issue tho. Like the metal shiny sides r very easily scratched, and the top left corner of the screen near the led, you are able to move it if you push it in (made a thread about this but it seem to be normal). My note 4 had a defect, which was the the proximity sensor isn't working, so i sent the device back and i'm waiting for a new one or waiting to be repaired.

tiguy99 said:
Thank you for that however I was wondering how his personal experience was using the Note 4
I do appreciate you sharing the link by the way
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I have the model/variant on Infinity v2.0 Note 5 to Note 4 port, adore the device, flawless design and functionality..
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Unlocked HTC 10 on Verizon?

According to the HTC website the HTC 10 has all the bands necessary for Verizon including CDMA. Does anyone know if it will work on Verizon?
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2G/2.5G - GSM/GPRS/EDGE, 850/900/1800/1900 MHz, CDMA: 800/1900 with EVDO Rev A, 3G UMTS, 850/AWS/900/1900/2100 MHz, 4G LTE (up to 450Mbps), FDD: Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 13, 17, 20, 28, 29, 30, Support Cat 9 LTE, download up to 450 Mbps, upload up to 50 Mbps
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I'm wondering the same thing.
adam3914 said:
According to the HTC website the HTC 10 has all the bands necessary for Verizon including CDMA. Does anyone know if it will work on Verizon?
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I suspect it will indeed work on VZW, all 3 models have the same modelid (ATT, TMO, VZW)...
Jeff Gordon pretty much confirmed it...https://twitter.com/urbanstrata/status/719949958166786048?s=15

I see it as the same situation as the 6P. Verizon didnt "officially certify" it for their network, but since it had the correct bands it worked with an already activated sim card.
I preordered an unlocked HTC 10 and plan on popping in my 6p VZW sim card.
Now does it matter that HTC site lists the 850 frequency (which verizon uses for their 3g) under 2G/2.5G - GSM/GPRS/EDGE?

I am wondering the same my friend..it will be a must buy it so and I can use it on any carrier at anytime! It's probably too good to be true though all of ever heard is how Verizon is very strict on what phones they will let on their network ? If I have to get the Verizon version, then I will have to wait on bootloader unlock before purchase Crossing fingers
MoNsTeReNeRgY22, Post back once you get the phone and pop in your sim.... The sim from my iPhone 6Plus should work to I would guess?

Verizon is less strict than you think. They're picky about the phones they certify and sell, but if a phone has the right radios, you can usually get it to work on V by just inserting a pre-activated SIM.
I've heard a rumor that Verizon will be getting an exclusive launch ahead of the US competition with this phone. It'd be nice if the unlocked model is the same. Perhaps they'll put some software locking that we can easily circumnavigate? Being able to travel with my M8 and pop in a local GSM SIM has been a huge benefit.

So it's not looking good. Android Police in their quick write up tried a already activated VZW sim and it was a no go.
http://imgur.com/EHIZh9f

MoNsTeReNeRgY22 said:
So it's not looking good. Android Police in their quick write up tried a already activated VZW sim and it was a no go.
http://imgur.com/EHIZh9f
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Not good.

Just got a twitter response from Mo Versi who works at HTC, and I quote "NO, You will have to purchase directly from Verizon or Sprint. Thanks" Not sure if this is the be all end all, but it doesn't help!? Perhaps Verizon is telling them to say this so we buy from carrier?? Or maybe we are just screwed

awareunlikeu said:
Just got a twitter response from Mo Versi who works at HTC, and I quote "NO, You will have to purchase directly from Verizon or Sprint. Thanks" Not sure if this is the be all end all, but it doesn't help!? Perhaps Verizon is telling them to say this so we buy from carrier?? Or maybe we are just screwed
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Verizon did just implement that new upgrade fee if you buy from them. Sneaky, sneaky.

MoNsTeReNeRgY22 said:
So it's not looking good. Android Police in their quick write up tried a already activated VZW sim and it was a no go.
http://imgur.com/EHIZh9f
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I've experienced this on cracking the Chinanet LTE of Verizon M9. The LTE signal just show up and disappeared in a moment.
But at last I solved it by adding MCC in EFS explore.

awareunlikeu said:
Just got a twitter response from Mo Versi who works at HTC, and I quote "NO, You will have to purchase directly from Verizon or Sprint. Thanks" Not sure if this is the be all end all, but it doesn't help!? Perhaps Verizon is telling them to say this so we buy from carrier?? Or maybe we are just screwed
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Since they are releasing an actual Verizon variant, I dont see you getting any other answer out of him than that.
jchq said:
I've experienced this on cracking the Chinanet LTE of Verizon M9. The LTE signal just show up and disappeared in a moment.
But at last I solved it by adding MCC in EFS explore.
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Can you elaborate on what you mean by adding MCC in EFS explore?

MoNsTeReNeRgY22 said:
Since they are releasing an actual Verizon variant, I dont see you getting any other answer out of him than that.
Can you elaborate on what you mean by adding MCC in EFS explore?
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Yeah I suspect so, If it does indeed work on Verizon, Im sure Verizon dosent want them advertising it. My only fear is when I receive it, it does work, but if I am out of ranfe for LTE and it has to drop down to 3G, will it work.. I guess we shall see!? I did see that HTC has a 14 day return policy. If I cant get it to work in the 14 days, then I will just wait for a bootloader unlock for the Verizon model. Anyone thats up to date and knows the 3G and LTE bads real well? Does this unlocked edition have all the necessary bands for both 3G and LTE, on VZW? I know a bit, but dont know them all.

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Yeah I suspect so, If it does indeed work on Verizon, Im sure Verizon dosent want them advertising it. My only fear is when I receive it, it does work, but if I am out of ranfe for LTE and it has to drop down to 3G, will it work.. I guess we shall see!? I did see that HTC has a 14 day return policy. If I cant get it to work in the 14 days, then I will just wait for a bootloader unlock for the Verizon model. Anyone thats up to date and knows the 3G and LTE bads real well? Does this unlocked edition have all the necessary bands for both 3G and LTE, on VZW? I know a bit, but dont know them all.
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Yup agreed and I think its actually a 30 day return policy. See HTC.com America store by Digital River refund policy
And according to Wireless Carrier Cheat Sheet, the unlocked version supports Verizon CDMA ( CDMA: 800/1900 with EVDO Rev A). I screenshotted the supported bands of the unlocked HTC 10, the VZW HTC M9 and and VZW LG G5. All support the same bands (CDMA included). I circled the same CDMA bands for reference (Ignore my crude paint skills).
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MoNsTeReNeRgY22 said:
Yup agreed and I think its actually a 30 day return policy. See HTC.com America store by Digital River refund policy
And according to Wireless Carrier Cheat Sheet, the unlocked version supports Verizon CDMA ( CDMA: 800/1900 with EVDO Rev A). I screenshotted the supported bands of the unlocked HTC 10, the VZW HTC M9 and and VZW LG G5. All support the same bands (CDMA included). I circled the same CDMA bands for reference (Ignore my crude paint skills).
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A guy linked this to me: http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_10_goes_by_fcc_ahead_of_announcement-news-17569.php
It shows 2 separate models 2PS6200 and 2PS6500
Hopefully this is not one of them being GSM, and the other being the CDMA model?

awareunlikeu said:
A guy linked this to me: http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_10_goes_by_fcc_ahead_of_announcement-news-17569.php
It shows 2 separate models 2PS6200 and 2PS6500
Hopefully this is not one of them being GSM, and the other being the CDMA model?
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Even if there are separate models, does it matter since the tech specs for the unlocked variant list all the bands we need anyways?

MoNsTeReNeRgY22 said:
Even if there are separate models, does it matter since the tech specs for the unlocked variant list all the bands we need anyways?
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Yeah thats the way it certainly seems. Someone pointed out though that it could be showing the bands for both models as a whole.... It does not sound convincing, but something to think about.

awareunlikeu said:
A guy linked this to me: http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_10_goes_by_fcc_ahead_of_announcement-news-17569.php
It shows 2 separate models 2PS6200 and 2PS6500
Hopefully this is not one of them being GSM, and the other being the CDMA model?
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2PS620000 is for Europe, that article may be wrong about it hitting the FCC...doesn't make sense
2PS650000 is for US GSM (ATT & TMO) & VZW
Sprint will have a different modelid...

OMJ said:
2PS620000 is for Europe, that article may be wrong about it hitting the FCC...doesn't make sense
2PS650000 is for US GSM (ATT & TMO) & VZW
Sprint will have a different modelid...
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TASTY!

Read the whole thread and it looks like the unlocked HTC 10 might work on Verizon. Great news. I DON'T WANT VERIZON BRANDED DEVICE EVER AGAIN. I looked at the specs on the website and saw LTE bands 3,4,13 which is what Verizon uses AFAIK. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Whoever ordered the device please update us as soon as you get your device.
Thank you
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Not getting LTE on T-Mobile

I purchased an unlocked S10+ from eBay (SM-G9750) that had an origin from Asia. It had the Snapdragon chipset so I thought it would be the same model, but I'm not getting 4G LTE on my phone. My carrier is T-Mobile.
After doing some research, I believe I don't have access to 2 networks bands (71 and another 16(?)). Is there anything I can do to, "fix" the phone so I can have LTE?

Try flashing the tmobile firmware.

Did you make sure the APN setting is set for tmobile?
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minhajmsd said:
Did you make sure the APN setting is set for tmobile?
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Yea, double checked it after resetting the phone a couple times as well. Still no luck...

christmaslu said:
I purchased an unlocked S10+ from eBay (SM-G9750) that had an origin from Asia. It had the Snapdragon chipset so I thought it would be the same model, but I'm not getting 4G LTE on my phone. My carrier is T-Mobile.
After doing some research, I believe I don't have access to 2 networks bands (71 and another 16(?)). Is there anything I can do to, "fix" the phone so I can have LTE?
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I have the same phone and I'm getting 4G connectivity on T mobile. I'm in NYC and I'm connecting to bands 4, 5 and 12 typically. My speeds are significantly lower than my S7 because carrier aggregation is not enabled.
Are you in a rural area? I've heard that T mobile uses the 600mhz band 71 (which this phone is missing) for rural LTE coverage.

Type *#2263# in your dialer to see was which.bands your phone supports, I think it support T-Mobile. Also try *#77467# to pull up IMS settings and enable what you can under IMS Service Switch.
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floyddroyd said:
I have the same phone and I'm getting 4G connectivity on T mobile. I'm in NYC and I'm connecting to bands 4, 5 and 12 typically. My speeds are significantly lower than my S7 because carrier aggregation is not enabled.
Are you in a rural area? I've heard that T mobile uses the 600mhz band 71 (which this phone is missing) for rural LTE coverage.
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Nope, not in a rural area. I'm in LA county.

minhajmsd said:
Type *#2263# in your dialer to see was which.bands your phone supports, I think it support T-Mobile. Also try *#77467# to pull up IMS settings and enable what you can under IMS Service Switch.
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I had tried that yesterday, but got a, "Connection problem or invalid MMI code." I tried 77467 and I got the same error also.
Is there a setting I don't have enabled or need to change so I can use those codes?

christmaslu said:
I purchased an unlocked S10+ from eBay (SM-G9750) that had an origin from Asia. It had the Snapdragon chipset so I thought it would be the same model, but I'm not getting 4G LTE on my phone. My carrier is T-Mobile.
After doing some research, I believe I don't have access to 2 networks bands (71 and another 16(?)). Is there anything I can do to, "fix" the phone so I can have LTE?
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Unfortunately not.. The T-Mobile CSC firmware is only available for the US models (G975U and G975U1).
G9750 is intended for South America, China and Hong Kong.
Although you only miss support for B71, so in theory LTE should work just fine since the G9750 supports other T-Mobile bands like Bands 2, 4 and 12.
Do you have another T-Mobile phone to test with to see if you get LTE in your area?

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Nope, not in a rural area. I'm in LA county.
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A new feature with the S10+ is that all the US carriers' firmware is embedded and automatically loaded up depending on the carrier SIM card inserted. What's the story on the SIM card you are using? I just swapped in the one from my Galaxy S7 and everything but carrier aggregation worked right out of the box (including WIFI calling, VoLTE and Samsung Pay). I suspect you may be able to fix this if you get a properly provisioned SIM.
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christmaslu said:
I had tried that yesterday, but got a, "Connection problem or invalid MMI code." I tried 77467 and I got the same error also.
Is there a setting I don't have enabled or need to change so I can use those codes?
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Those codes don't work on mine either. *#0011# will let you see what 4G towers you are connecting to (run speed test app while you are looking). Signal spy or LTE discovery app are helpful too.

christmaslu said:
I had tried that yesterday, but got a, "Connection problem or invalid MMI code." I tried 77467 and I got the same error also.
Is there a setting I don't have enabled or need to change so I can use those codes?
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I don't know, these codes were working fine for me. Try this, download the Google dialer apk (Google the Google dialer port) and then use the code *#*#4636*#*#. You'll have to set it up as your main dialer app and enable permissions. Then try to see if you can configure it like my phone.
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maybe need update your sim card?!

MeltdownSpectre said:
Unfortunately not.. The T-Mobile CSC firmware is only available for the US models (G975U and G975U1).
G9750 is intended for South America, China and Hong Kong.
Although you only miss support for B71, so in theory LTE should work just fine since the G9750 supports other T-Mobile bands like Bands 2, 4 and 12.
Do you have another T-Mobile phone to test with to see if you get LTE in your area?
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floyddroyd said:
A new feature with the S10+ is that all the US carriers' firmware is embedded and automatically loaded up depending on the carrier SIM card inserted. What's the story on the SIM card you are using? I just swapped in the one from my Galaxy S7 and everything but carrier aggregation worked right out of the box (including WIFI calling, VoLTE and Samsung Pay). I suspect you may be able to fix this if you get a properly provisioned SIM.
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Those codes don't work on mine either. *#0011# will let you see what 4G towers you are connecting to (run speed test app while you are looking). Signal spy or LTE discovery app are helpful too.
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I've actually been with T-Mobile for a very long time and this sim is the same one I used in my HTC-M8, Galaxy S7 and Galaxy S8 all of which had LTE, no problem.
I ran the Google speed test, and I'm consistently getting 10 - 15 MBPS. I'm not sure what it was before, but it's noticeably slower than my S8.
I will try getting the Google dialer and try a couple of the other codes mentioned. Thanks for all the suggestions thus far, everyone!
UPDATE:
Google Dialer didn't work either

Any update on this? I just bought a G975U1 unlocked, and my data seems to be very slow with exceptionally high latency. I was wondering if the problem was the lack of carrier aggregation, but that shouldn't cause high latency, should it? Any reason not to flash the carrier firmware? I'm a little confused on that, actually -- if the S10+ pre-loads the carrier firmware based on the sim, why wouldn't carrier aggregation be part of that?

gwbyrd said:
Any update on this? I just bought a G975U1 unlocked, and my data seems to be very slow with exceptionally high latency. I was wondering if the problem was the lack of carrier aggregation, but that shouldn't cause high latency, should it? Any reason not to flash the carrier firmware? I'm a little confused on that, actually -- if the S10+ pre-loads the carrier firmware based on the sim, why wouldn't carrier aggregation be part of that?
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I don't think the current "U" firmware brand switches and downloads the carrier firmwares.
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I was unable to get my phone to work on bands 2 and 4. Anytime I connected to those two bands it never would work. Finally I had to send it in. It's a hardware problem (in my case)
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gwbyrd said:
Any update on this? I just bought a G975U1 unlocked, and my data seems to be very slow with exceptionally high latency. I was wondering if the problem was the lack of carrier aggregation, but that shouldn't cause high latency, should it? Any reason not to flash the carrier firmware? I'm a little confused on that, actually -- if the S10+ pre-loads the carrier firmware based on the sim, why wouldn't carrier aggregation be part of that?
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I have the u1 and it has been working great on tmo, mostly bands 2, 4, and 12... With very acceptable speeds...

netengineer said:
I was unable to get my phone to work on bands 2 and 4. Anytime I connected to those two bands it never would work. Finally I had to send it in. It's a hardware problem (in my case)
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I know , I won't ask again [emoji6]
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Limeybastard said:
I know , I won't ask again [emoji6]
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Lol, I will surely let you know when I get it back what they did to it.
I appreciate all the help you give in all the threads. I see you everywhere. [emoji23]
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netengineer said:
Lol, I will surely let you know when I get it back what they did to it.
I appreciate all the help you give in all the threads. I see you everywhere. [emoji23]
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No, I appreciate all the input you gave us.[emoji106]
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