Tried Installing Cloudy G2 3.3, bricked my F320L - G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I flashed the rom, followed all the steps. Everything was perfect, didn't get any errors.
When it told me to reboot however, i did, and just got the LG logo followed by a persistent black screen of death.
The phone that i am using is LG G2 F320L. I am using TWRP Recovery. I am able to access recovery, and have done that several times since the issue, to wipe everything, reinstall, what not. Doesn't help. Even after a reinstall, the black screen after LG logo is there.
Can anyone help me out?

Me too.
Same problem here but mine is D802 international. Now going to try Cloudy G2 2.2 instead. It was running 4.4.2 KitKat stock.

me too...now stuck with just LG showing.

D802 - Sorted
I found this post : http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-...ide-how-to-install-cloudyg2-3-1-d802-t3137055 There is a patch for the D802, I think it installs the Lollipop baseband. There's also a link for an updated TWRP - updated from the one autorec installs. So now it works, just booted to the LG welcome screen. Not sure if the patch will work with your F320L, but you can't be any worse off if you try! Good luck.

How you can access recover? I trd the logm press button and release with no result
F320s the lg logo shows onñy for a half second and then the black screen
I was runnin 4.4.2 stock kitkat with autorec twrp
Thanks

wrong bootleader .u need kk bootleader for cloudy g2 3.3 if u can acces recovery install kk bootleader or use srktool to unbrick

here you go... just make sure to use f320l files. if you need more help just let me know..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/help/installing-cloudyg2-3-3-f320-t3197531

Just happened to my brand new D800 as well. Any solutions? I'm downloading stock atm as I can only access Download Mode. Thanks!
EDIT: Fixed it by flashing back to stock! Only thing is that I'm now stuck on Jelly Bean. :/ WHY ISNT THE OTA UPDATE WORKING?!?! Lol. I'll go do my research!

canc3r12 said:
I flashed the rom, followed all the steps. Everything was perfect, didn't get any errors.
When it told me to reboot however, i did, and just got the LG logo followed by a persistent black screen of death.
The phone that i am using is LG G2 F320L. I am using TWRP Recovery. I am able to access recovery, and have done that several times since the issue, to wipe everything, reinstall, what not. Doesn't help. Even after a reinstall, the black screen after LG logo is there.
Can anyone help me out?
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please select F320l varient in aroma installer i have same issu but i sollved it and you must have kk bootloader
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sickofthesea said:
Same problem here but mine is D802 international. Now going to try Cloudy G2 2.2 instead. It was running 4.4.2 KitKat stock.
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please select F320l varient in aroma installer i have same issu but i sollved it and you must have kk bootloader

chrismin13 said:
Just happened to my brand new D800 as well. Any solutions? I'm downloading stock atm as I can only access Download Mode. Thanks!
EDIT: Fixed it by flashing back to stock! Only thing is that I'm now stuck on Jelly Bean. :/ WHY ISNT THE OTA UPDATE WORKING?!?! Lol. I'll go do my research!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=65643825&postcount=4

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[Q] i rack my brain

Ive got d801 in december 2013 ive install scots clean 1.3. rom which is working fine but i cant get any other rom on my device. once i try to install new rom it fail every single one. To make thinks strange my device shows as 802 . once i try to stock restore in lg flash tool download mode shows the same d802 rooted and it gets stuck on 49% always. wont pass 49%. SO im wondering if i can push 801 stock via sideload or any of you have any other suggestion?
chiljig said:
Ive got d801 in december 2013 ive install scots clean 1.3. rom which is working fine but i cant get any other rom on my device. once i try to install new rom it fail every single one. To make thinks strange my device shows as 802 . once i try to stock restore in lg flash tool download mode shows the same d802 rooted and it gets stuck on 49% always. wont pass 49%. SO im wondering if i can push 801 stock via sideload or any of you have any other suggestion?
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Hi m8. i'm not having the problem you have but please check Q/A - help section on this G2 thread. People are dealing with the 49% stuck progressbar with success. I'll try searching for it and reply.
EDIT
please read this: 1
and this
it was twrp recovery that was giving me trouble soonest i flashed phill touch everything is good
conclusion TWRP is not good
TWRP works fine for me

[Q] Crossdl [D803] to [d800] - Help!

My phone is ATT D800. It is rooted and has CWM custom recovery. I live in Canada and use Telus as my provider.
Last night I flashed Bell Stock D803 rom. I loved the rom, the phone was nice and zippy, but every time I restarted, it forgot settings, wifi would be off, and I would have to reset the APN settings. I was able to flash my phone back to stock ATT using Custom DLL LGUP_8974.dll and and the stock ATT JB provided by hyelton. It worked with no issues. I was using the phone all day today and noticed that I had really bad signals with the ATT modem. So like a fool, I decided to try the Bell rom again - big mistake! Now my phone is in an endless loop. I can go into download and recovery mode no problem but I can't do anything else.
I have been trying to use the LG Flash Tool to restore and I am now getting Crossdl [D803] to [d800] errors. I rebooted into recovery thinking that I would be able to sideload another rom to at least get the phone working - no go. When I run adb devices - it isn't seeing my phone in recovery. If I to a factory restore, it goes in a boot loop and I get screen after screen asking me if I want to format. When I check the device manager - instead of seeing my phone, I see qhsusb_bulk.
I've also tried to flash ROM KDZ Method for bell D803 but this doesn't work for me either. When I get to - 3. select Normal web upgrade test - I get the next screen to click upgrade start but then after that, the BC2App loads and tells me that there is no updates. I never get the screen wanting me to choose a country. And yes, I've followed the steps too many times to count now.
At this point, I don't care if my phone is running D800 software or D803 - I just want it to work. Can someone please help?
If you have a d800 you shouldn't install a d803 ROM I believe there are hardware and kernel changes between both of them ... The radios are different... Try installing a d800 ROM if you can access recovery by sideload and then install a d800 modem
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And after that just change the APN and enable fast dormancy ... I believe telus supports it too
kmacsouris said:
My phone is ATT D800. It is rooted and has CWM custom recovery. I live in Canada and use Telus as my provider.
Last night I flashed Bell Stock D803 rom. I loved the rom, the phone was nice and zippy, but every time I restarted, it forgot settings, wifi would be off, and I would have to reset the APN settings. I was able to flash my phone back to stock ATT using Custom DLL LGUP_8974.dll and and the stock ATT JB provided by hyelton. It worked with no issues. I was using the phone all day today and noticed that I had really bad signals with the ATT modem. So like a fool, I decided to try the Bell rom again - big mistake! Now my phone is in an endless loop. I can go into download and recovery mode no problem but I can't do anything else.
I have been trying to use the LG Flash Tool to restore and I am now getting Crossdl [D803] to [d800] errors. I rebooted into recovery thinking that I would be able to sideload another rom to at least get the phone working - no go. When I run adb devices - it isn't seeing my phone in recovery. If I to a factory restore, it goes in a boot loop and I get screen after screen asking me if I want to format. When I check the device manager - instead of seeing my phone, I see qhsusb_bulk.
I've also tried to flash ROM KDZ Method for bell D803 but this doesn't work for me either. When I get to - 3. select Normal web upgrade test - I get the next screen to click upgrade start but then after that, the BC2App loads and tells me that there is no updates. I never get the screen wanting me to choose a country. And yes, I've followed the steps too many times to count now.
At this point, I don't care if my phone is running D800 software or D803 - I just want it to work. Can someone please help?
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I can help you. I need original dll for your phone. i made some changrs and you flash your g2 with TOT method. I am from Ukraine. Sorry for my english. if you still need the help - write in private message.
I need help D802
maloma99 said:
I can help you. I need original dll for your phone. i made some changrs and you flash your g2 with TOT method. I am from Ukraine. Sorry for my english. if you still need the help - write in private message.
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hi maloma99
I need your help my lg g2 is bricked please,
i am trying to install D802 .tot file, my phone is already D802, but
the error is crossDL [] to [D802]

after stock, it still says rooted ?

owner lg g2-d802
Hey guys,
a while ago i rooted my d802 and flashed some roms and my experience was that my batterlife was worsen. So i tried to flash official kdz firmware in order to unroot my phone.
What i did was verry simple, flash the kdz and factory reset the whole device. But then i went back to download mode to see if i still had root. to my suprise it showd this (kdz 220b, userB99- rooted)
my question is why is it still rooted ?
abati said:
owner lg g2-d802
Hey guys,
a while ago i rooted my d802 and flashed some roms and my experience was that my batterlife was worsen. So i tried to flash official kdz firmware in order to unroot my phone.
What i did was verry simple, flash the kdz and factory reset the whole device. But then i went back to download mode to see if i still had root. to my suprise it showd this (kdz 220b, userB99- rooted)
my question is why is it still rooted ?
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Use official LG KDZ ROMs and flash with LG Flash Tools 2014 :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2797190
Flash mode: CSE flash
and dont forget to backup your sd card files. All will be wiped in this mode.
Official ROMs:
http://lg-firmware-rom.com
abati said:
owner lg g2-d802
Hey guys,
a while ago i rooted my d802 and flashed some roms and my experience was that my batterlife was worsen. So i tried to flash official kdz firmware in order to unroot my phone.
What i did was verry simple, flash the kdz and factory reset the whole device. But then i went back to download mode to see if i still had root. to my suprise it showd this (kdz 220b, userB99- rooted)
my question is why is it still rooted ?
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Don't worry
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2703501
thnx i will try that !
Vogie said:
Use official LG KDZ ROMs and flash with LG Flash Tools 2014 :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2797190
Flash mode: CSE flash
and dont forget to backup your sd card files. All will be wiped in this mode.
Official ROMs:
http://lg-firmware-rom.com
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hey men, i tried exactly what you said, but it stil the same after i flashed the kdz with CSE flash mode.
when i go back to download mode it stil says (user b97 - rooted in) i forgot to say that rooted is in red letters, does that say annything ? i am bit confused
abati said:
hey men, i tried exactly what you said, but it stil the same after i flashed the kdz with CSE flash mode.
when i go back to download mode it stil says (user b97 - rooted in) i forgot to say that rooted is in red letters, does that say annything ? i am bit confused
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Let me know, did you download KDZ ROM from http://lg-firmware-rom.com ?
You have to enter your IMEI to get you download link. It's a kdz file with around 1.6 Gigabytes.
Right?
Vogie said:
Use official LG KDZ ROMs and flash with LG Flash Tools 2014 :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2797190
Flash mode: CSE flash
and dont forget to backup your sd card files. All will be wiped in this mode.
Official ROMs:
http://lg-firmware-rom.com
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Vogie said:
Let me know, did you download KDZ ROM from http://lg-firmware-rom.com ?
You have to enter your IMEI to get you download link. It's a kdz file with around 1.6 Gigabytes.
Right?
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yes that is correct
abati said:
yes that is correct
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It doesn't make sense!
Stocks KDZ will make your phone like first day and repartition all partitions.
CES mode should works and Its delete all of your files.
BTW, It's just way I know to back to completely stock ROM.
Try again maybe works.
Vogie said:
It doesn't make sense!
Stocks KDZ will make your phone like first day and repartition all partitions.
CES mode should works and Its delete all of your files.
BTW, It's just way I know to back to completely stock ROM.
Try again maybe works.
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i totally agree with you, but i already tried more then once.
I remeber that around 3 months ago i flashed an official kdz file and i tried to install root and recovery but it kept failing, so i installed an app called autrec and this app fixed everything .
Could this thing cause the problem ?
No, autorec just install recovery.
LG flash tools 2014 flash lg's recovery from KDZ file.
Vogie said:
No, autorec just install recovery.
LG flash tools 2014 flash lg's recovery from KDZ file.
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i have also to mention, each time i went back to stock kdz i installed root checker, and the app kept saying root is not properly installed blabla, realy weird.
and yes i always used lg flash tools 2014 but nothing changes
abati said:
i have also to mention, each time i went back to stock kdz i installed root checker, and the app kept saying root is not properly installed blabla, realy weird.
and yes i always used lg flash tools 2014 but nothing changes
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Hello abati.
The "rooted" tag in download mode is an error by LG, when they updated the LG G2 to KitKat. You can manually replace some files (rct.config), but even though it shows ROOTED in download mode, it isn't unless you manually rooted it after flashing a kdz.
If you're thinking of sending the phone in for a repair, I recall hearing that it doesn't have any effect at all.
But if it really bothers you that much you can flash a Jelly Bean ROM kdz (4.2.2) and UNROOTED will appear in dowload mode or just replace the files. But it has no practical value since your phone is not rooted.
Hope this helps!
vPro97 said:
Hello abati.
The "rooted" tag in download mode is an error by LG, when they updated the LG G2 to KitKat. You can manually replace some files (rct.config), but even though it shows ROOTED in download mode, it isn't unless you manually rooted it after flashing a kdz.
If you're thinking of sending the phone in for a repair, I recall hearing that it doesn't have any effect at all.
But if it really bothers you that much you can flash a Jelly Bean ROM kdz (4.2.2) and UNROOTED will appear in dowload mode or just replace the files. But it has no practical value since your phone is not rooted.
Hope this helps!
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thnx m8, i was about to flash a jb rom actualy and see if it will change ^^ i will report back
abati said:
thnx m8, i was about to flash a jb rom actualy and see if it will change ^^ i will report back
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It will change make sure you download and flash the correct model and storage (16 GB or 32 GB).
Also, it's easier to press thanks button than to say thanks - unless you're out of thanks for today, like I am
vPro97 said:
It will change make sure you download and flash the correct model and storage (16 GB or 32 GB).
Also, it's easier to press thanks button than to say thanks - unless you're out of thanks for today, like I am
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hey m8 what you said is right, i flashed a kdz (D80210A_00) but it acted strangely cuz it kept rebooting and I then shutdown the phone with a combination of the buttons and then powered on but it kept rebooting. eventualy i checked in the download mode and there it said unrooted in white text.
eventualy i went back to kdz (D80220H_00) kitkat rom, and i factory reset everything and downloaded root checker, root checker says LG g2 device is not rooted. But when i went back to download mode and just see what it said ^^
It says rooted men -_- realy disturbing
did LG do this intentialy ? cuz if i am going to send tis device for repair the chance is very high that they will charge me the cost for the repair because my phone shows that i rooted.
how should i deal with this
abati said:
hey m8 what you said is right, i flashed a kdz (D80210A_00) but it acted strangely cuz it kept rebooting and I then shutdown the phone with a combination of the buttons and then powered on but it kept rebooting. eventualy i checked in the download mode and there it said unrooted in white text.
eventualy i went back to kdz (D80220H_00) kitkat rom, and i factory reset everything and downloaded root checker, root checker says LG g2 device is not rooted. But when i went back to download mode and just see what it said ^^
It says rooted men -_- realy disturbing
did LG do this intentialy ? cuz if i am going to send tis device for repair the chance is very high that they will charge me the cost for the repair because my phone shows that i rooted.
how should i deal with this
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Like vPro97 said, "The "rooted" tag in download mode is an error by LG, when they updated the LG G2 to KitKat".
I suggest installing the Stock Jelly Bean .kdz file for your device, and then upgrading to KitKat ONLY via OTA.
d00lz said:
Like vPro97 said, "The "rooted" tag in download mode is an error by LG, when they updated the LG G2 to KitKat".
I suggest installing the Stock Jelly Bean .kdz file for your device, and then upgrading to KitKat ONLY via OTA.
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But when i flashh jb kdz it keeps rebooting, totally nonsense if you ask me, but when i hold power and volume down for a couple sec. then the phone shuts down, after that i pressed the power butten but it still kept rebooting. I was able to enter the download mode and see for my self that it showed that it was not rooted, but besides that the phone always keeps rebooting.
After I flashed the kdz based on kitkat, i did not had anny problem at all, except that download mode shows that im rooted when in realtime its not.
abati said:
But when i flashh jb kdz it keeps rebooting, totally nonsense if you ask me, but when i hold power and volume down for a couple sec. then the phone shuts down, after that i pressed the power butten but it still kept rebooting. I was able to enter the download mode and see for my self that it showed that it was not rooted, but besides that the phone always keeps rebooting.
After I flashed the kdz based on kitkat, i did not had anny problem at all, except that download mode shows that im rooted when in realtime its not.
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Hello again. Sorry for the delay, was busy reading!
After flashing a jelly bean KDZ you need to perform a hard reset if it bootloops.
Just press and hold volume down and power button till lg logo pops up, then release the buttons and then immediately press and hold volume down and power button again. Then follow the instructions.
If you flashed the correct file, you'll get an OTA update to kitkat
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vPro97 said:
Hello again. Sorry for the delay, was busy reading!
After flashing a jelly bean KDZ you need to perform a hard reset if it bootloops.
Just press and hold volume down and power button till lg logo pops up, then release the buttons and then immediately press and hold volume down and power button again. Then follow the instructions.
If you flashed the correct file, you'll get an OTA update to kitkat
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No problem MEN !!
Damnn your a Hero ^^ it worked !!

[Q] LG G2 aruck on download mode

hi,I was flasing my Stock kitkat LG G2 to stock lollipop with the LG flash tool 2014. But, flash tool kinda stopped working in the middle and the update got stuck. So now, My LG g2 became stuck on download mode. Is there anyway to fix this? please help
omar999 said:
hi,I was flasing my Stock kitkat LG G2 to stock lollipop with the LG flash tool 2014. But, flash tool kinda stopped working in the middle and the update got stuck. So now, My LG g2 became stuck on download mode. Is there anyway to fix this? please help
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did you try reflash. keep trying. on friend had same proplem when his update stoped. everytime he was trying to flash had a bigger % then stop.he did it again and again till 100% . if you have download mode you are still ok...just flash..
OverClockeD_GR said:
did you try reflash. keep trying. on friend had same proplem when his update stoped. everytime he was trying to flash had a bigger % then stop.he did it again and again till 100% . if you have download mode you are still ok...just flash..
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is there any other way to flash the kdz? like a more reliable tool?

Help needed with refurbished lg g2

Ok so i bought the lg g2 a while back thinking it was the d802 model but i was suspicious about it so i opened it up and looked at the back of the motherboard. In reality its the d800 model which i believe is the AT&T model?
Now what im running is a bizzare rom which looks like the stock kk lg rom for the g2 but when i go to about device and software info there is no option to check for updates and the rom shows that my model is the d802 in the about device and then hardware info. Even when i connect to the lg pc suite it says that my model is the d802 and there is no update for it and im running the latest version "d8022c". Now i know this is all incorrect as i looked at the motherboard and over there it says that its the d800 model of the lg g2.
Before i knew that this was the d800 i flashed a rom for d802 on my device. When the rom was installed through cwm recovery(i bought a used phone and it came pre rooted and pre installed with cwm recovery) i rebooted the phone but then the lg logo appeared and on the top left of the screen it said fastboot mode started and udc start.i didnt know what to do so i looked up the key combination to go into recovery and tried that. Fortunately it worked and i was in recovery mode. I restored the rom that i backuped earlier and rebooted the phone. It works normal now but my question is " how do i install a lollipop rom on my phone? Do i just flash a rom for the d800?"
Sorry for such a long and lengthy description but i wanted to tell everything about my phone so there was no confusion and sorry for the incorrect english if you encountered any(english is not my first language)
Please help me. I just wanna install a lollipop rom ='(
amingdev said:
Ok so i bought the lg g2 a while back thinking it was the d802 model but i was suspicious about it so i opened it up and looked at the back of the motherboard. In reality its the d800 model which i believe is the AT&T model?
Now what im running is a bizzare rom which looks like the stock kk lg rom for the g2 but when i go to about device and software info there is no option to check for updates and the rom shows that my model is the d802 in the about device and then hardware info. Even when i connect to the lg pc suite it says that my model is the d802 and there is no update for it and im running the latest version "d8022c". Now i know this is all incorrect as i looked at the motherboard and over there it says that its the d800 model of the lg g2.
Before i knew that this was the d800 i flashed a rom for d802 on my device. When the rom was installed through cwm recovery(i bought a used phone and it came pre rooted and pre installed with cwm recovery) i rebooted the phone but then the lg logo appeared and on the top left of the screen it said fastboot mode started and udc start.i didnt know what to do so i looked up the key combination to go into recovery and tried that. Fortunately it worked and i was in recovery mode. I restored the rom that i backuped earlier and rebooted the phone. It works normal now but my question is " how do i install a lollipop rom on my phone? Do i just flash a rom for the d800?"
Sorry for such a long and lengthy description but i wanted to tell everything about my phone so there was no confusion and sorry for the incorrect english if you encountered any(english is not my first language)
Please help me. I just wanna install a lollipop rom ='(
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First of all, you need to install a d800 ROM immediately. Then use twrp or terminal emulator to flash back your laf partition (download mode). I'm in a hurry and cannot provide instructions sorry
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xmayhemreturnsx said:
First of all, you need to install a d800 ROM immediately. Then use twrp or terminal emulator to flash back your laf partition (download mode). I'm in a hurry and cannot provide instructions sorry
Sent from my LG-D800 using Tapatalk
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Hey its ok if you are in a hurry but i dont want to end up bricking my phone or anything so can you come back later and talk me through it step by step? Im a noob with the g2 especially when its a fake d802. Please help whenever you can. And why do you say that i have to install d800 rom immediately? My phone is working fine at the moment. I just want ti update it to lollipop
amingdev said:
Hey its ok if you are in a hurry but i dont want to end up bricking my phone or anything so can you come back later and talk me through it step by step? Im a noob with the g2 especially when its a fake d802. Please help whenever you can. And why do you say that i have to install d800 rom immediately? My phone is working fine at the moment. I just want ti update it to lollipop
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Okay I will come back and explain
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amingdev said:
Hey its ok if you are in a hurry but i dont want to end up bricking my phone or anything so can you come back later and talk me through it step by step? Im a noob with the g2 especially when its a fake d802. Please help whenever you can. And why do you say that i have to install d800 rom immediately? My phone is working fine at the moment. I just want ti update it to lollipop
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Alright go to twrp click advanced and start adb sideload. Then use adb sideload to flash a d800 rom this is to correct the boot loader (aboot and boot) then download terminal command and the d800 laf.IMG from codefi.re
Then put that directly in your SD card and from terminal type su and click enter. Then use this command type it in exactly " dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/fota "
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xmayhemreturnsx said:
Okay I will come back and explain
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Alright go to twrp click advanced and start adb sideload. Then use adb sideload to flash a d800 rom this is to correct the boot loader (aboot and boot) then download terminal command and the d800 laf.IMG from codefi.re
Then put that directly in your SD card and from terminal type su and click enter. Then use this command type it in exactly " dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/fota "
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Ok i understood some of the things you said but i found this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/help/flashing-d800-rom-d802-viceversa-story-t3128639/page2
Over there "umermushtaq's" method on intsalling cloudy g2 seems alot easier and it seems to be fixing my problem. Is it ok if i follow that? I just want your opinion on that and if you dont recommend that ill try using your method but you'd have to use more simpler terms.
Im really really sorry as im a big noob. Sorry once again.

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