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Droid X anyone else?

Anyone else thinking about switching over to it? Just got my incredible last Saturday so im considering switching over to it instead... Anyone else got any thoughts on it? Im for sure interested in the 720p capture (but cant DI be upgraded for that in the future?) we already have the tv out (without a cord yet) but will it be the same capabilities as DI can have, im not sure. My biggest things are the better processor (still worried about heat issues on it tho, perhaps unwarranted) and the 4.3 inch TFT 24 bit display (really concerned at how that looks over the AMOLED screens we have now on DI) I am currently only a week in with the DI and have had problems with the phones hardware so I can either get full refund or trade it in for the Droid X within the 30 days from store or trade in from VZW tech support (since i had problems and no other units are available to RMA mine with some problems they gave me extended upgradeability incase i had to get another phone until more are available) so im just tryin to pick pros and cons and so far i am loving the size and feel of the DI but I do have battery issues as well and a bigger battery on the X is a great feature.... the shape looks a little bulky on top which might be great but may feel bad as well.... anyone who has anything to add I would greatly apprecieate your input... im afraid until I can play with a X I may not know tho... the 3 microphones and the top and bottom antenna are really sweet 2... this phone sounds pretty sweet.
Some quick Specs.
1. Operating System: Android 2.1 w/ Motoblur
2. Processor: 1Ghz OMAP3430
3. On-board Storage: 8GB
4. Expandable Storage: 32GB, (16 GB included)
5. Total Storage: 40GB (24GB included)
6. Display Size: 4.3" Capacitive Touchscreen
7. Display Resolution: WGVA 854 x 480 pixels
8. Camera: 8 MP
9. Flash: Dual LED
10. Video Recording: 720p
11. Noise Cancelling: 3 Microphones
12. WiFi: yes
13. GPS: yes
14. Bluetooth: yes
15. HDMI: yes
Android 2.2 Froyo w/Flash 10.1 will be release later in the summer(around August) with an over-the-air update.

Heck no, HTC Forever!!

c-pimp said:
Anyone else thinking about switching over to it? Just got my incredible last Saturday so im considering switching over to it instead... Anyone else got any thoughts on it? Im for sure interested in the 720p capture (but cant DI be upgraded for that in the future?) we already have the tv out (without a cord yet) but will it be the same capabilities as DI can have, im not sure. My biggest things are the better processor (still worried about heat issues on it tho, perhaps unwarranted) and the 4.3 inch TFT 24 bit display (really concerned at how that looks over the AMOLED screens we have now on DI) I am currently only a week in with the DI and have had problems with the phones hardware so I can either get full refund or trade it in for the Droid X within the 30 days from store or trade in from VZW tech support (since i had problems and no other units are available to RMA mine with some problems they gave me extended upgradeability incase i had to get another phone until more are available) so im just tryin to pick pros and cons and so far i am loving the size and feel of the DI but I do have battery issues as well and a bigger battery on the X is a great feature.... the shape looks a little bulky on top which might be great but may feel bad as well.... anyone who has anything to add I would greatly apprecieate your input... im afraid until I can play with a X I may not know tho... the 3 microphones and the top and bottom antenna are really sweet 2... this phone sounds pretty sweet.
Some quick Specs.
1. Operating System: Android 2.1 w/ Motoblur
2. Processor: 1Ghz OMAP3430
3. On-board Storage: 8GB
4. Expandable Storage: 32GB, (16 GB included)
5. Total Storage: 40GB (24GB included)
6. Display Size: 4.3" Capacitive Touchscreen
7. Display Resolution: WGVA 854 x 480 pixels
8. Camera: 8 MP
9. Flash: Dual LED
10. Video Recording: 720p
11. Noise Cancelling: 3 Microphones
12. WiFi: yes
13. GPS: yes
14. Bluetooth: yes
15. HDMI: yes
Android 2.2 Froyo w/Flash 10.1 will be release later in the summer(around August) with an over-the-air update.
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I am wary and here is why:
Have you seen how hard they are pushing the Droid X? TV, website, e-mail ads, plus they are offering free upgrades, low price, wifi hotspot i mean it goes on and on.
Plus there is the rumor they want to phase out the Incredible
Well, this makes me think not only is Motorola paying Verizon beaucoup bucks to be their top Droid provider, but that this phone is going to be the droid phone that Verizon pushes on everyone cheaply and fast. Cheaply and fast usually mean bad news.
NOt to mention if u want the vids the damn thing is HUGE.. I like the incredibleness's sleek small design, i want LEss weight. Sure the doird X will be a real nice huge screened media player, but it is going to be one heck of a pocket weight. Plus what is that screen going to do to the battery?
I will be getting one because my brother is going to take the Incred or the X based on which one i DONT want, but as of now, the incredible is looking better, especially with SenseUI over MotoBlah (blur).

Side by side comparison here:
Except for the noise canceling & HDMI output I don't see too much that the X has on the Inc now that we have root and froyo is inevitable... It's a bigger phone and thus a bigger screen, but the weight factor alone is what does it for me- A buddy of mine has the Evo, and at 6 grams, its heafty. I don't know how he does it. I picked it up and it felt twice as heavy as the inc (I know it's not).. For a quick idea, pick up your incredible and put your mouse ontop of it, that's about how heavy the Evo feels. Do you really want that in your pocket?
Plus, with a bigger screen and more mass behind it- it's more susceptible to damage in a fall (of which I've already dropped my Inc a few times without issue). I'm still not sold on Motorola's quality- If I had the opportunity to try it out, I would- but I would never jump in without at least a test drive...

The only thing that makes me yearn, well two things actually.
1. I live in a hollar and the 3G signal is very weak. I have a Network Extender but the Incredible battery still dies pretty quick. I know there are tweaks but I shouldn't have to tweak the phone to get a reasonable amount time out of my battery. My wifes Droid (formerly mine) last a lot longer.
2. On a related note the Droid radio was much stronger then the Incredible. I drop calls once in awhile with the Incredible while I don't think I ever dropped one with the MotoDroid unless I made a call in my house and then drove away.
I know it's huge but I didn't mind the weight of the MotoDroid at all and liked the metal case.
We'll see I guess.

balaams_ass said:
The only thing that makes me yearn, well two things actually.
1. I live in a hollar and the 3G signal is very weak. I have a Network Extender but the Incredible battery still dies pretty quick. I know there are tweaks but I shouldn't have to tweak the phone to get a reasonable amount time out of my battery. My wifes Droid (formerly mine) last a lot longer.
2. On a related note the Droid radio was much stronger then the Incredible. I drop calls once in awhile with the Incredible while I don't think I ever dropped one with the MotoDroid unless I made a call in my house and then drove away.
I know it's huge but I didn't mind the weight of the MotoDroid at all and liked the metal case.
We'll see I guess.
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Motorola historically has a stronger radio and ALWAYS has pushed the to the edge of what the FCC allows the SAR limit to be. Meaning? When you have a Motorola device close to your body (head, hip, etc) you are exposing yourself to much greater risk of cancer. This alone is reason enough for me to steer clear of Motorola devices, and their cellular devision is in MY State!
HTC is the coolest devices made in my opinion. I wouldn't have any other device (so far).
Just my 2 cents.

2 bad we cant have the samoled screens until 2012..the galaxy boasts alot but i really love the feel of the dinc.....galaxy is anothdr runner up for me 2...guess we get specs real soon
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As far as your battery life on the incredible, try the one time charging method recommended by HTC. My battery life has been 30-50% better.
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BetaMan said:
Motorola historically has a stronger radio and ALWAYS has pushed the to the edge of what the FCC allows the SAR limit to be. Meaning? When you have a Motorola device close to your body (head, hip, etc) you are exposing yourself to much greater risk of cancer. This alone is reason enough for me to steer clear of Motorola devices, and their cellular devision is in MY State!
HTC is the coolest devices made in my opinion. I wouldn't have any other device (so far).
Just my 2 cents.
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It's a myth that cell phone radiation causes cancer. Not all radiations do. You have a higher chance of getting cancer from the bio toxins produced during stress by your body than RF radiation. The media tends to hype topics they know nothing about just for ratings. Look at the platic bottle myth. Fact is there are no dioxins in plyetholine bottles (bottled water bottles). Research has actually shown that cell phone radiation helps prevent and reverse the effects of alzheimer's. It just takes a little research to not fall into the flock.

I know what you mean
I too am considering switching from Inc to X. I was sold until I read about lag/artifact issues with Motoblur. The thing that I love most about the Inc is that it runs so flawlessly. My biggest reason I traded in my N1 for the Inc was that the N1's UI was flawed (yes I know it ran on stock Android), so the idea of taking a step backward in that regard is unappealing. However, I, for one, love the idea of having a bigger screen and SWYPE, which should make texting and data input a breeze. I know the processor on the X is made my TI, but I have found the Inc's Snapdragon to be awesome, so that's not a huge factor to me. Nor is the HDMI (although it would be nice if a TV out cord would come out for the Inc, despite not being HDMI). The Inc is rooted, the but process is such a PITA that I am not going to bother with it anymore until it is simplified (this is by far the thing I miss most about the N1). Basically, the X has some small advantages, but an inferior UI. So I guess I am back where i started--unsure of which device to go with.

I really wanted a moto because of the better cell reception but ended up getting an incredible yesterday. After having an evo for 20 days or so I got tired of trying to use the device one handed (it was do-able but not comfortable for me) and wanted something that felt more like my nexus.
(the x being bigger I couldn't imagine feeling comfortable with it)
Another thing that bothered me (XD OCD I swear) was the lack of color on the screen and I'm not sure about going back to lcd because of that. Though I know it could have been just the evo's screen in this case as I don't know the exact specs on the X.

I'm not a huge fan of the Inc's radio thus far, but I firmly believe we'll see an update soon that improves it greatly. It's a hallmark of HTC phones - first version, radio sucks. Second version, radio improves a bit but something else suffers (usually battery), third version is like the three little bears, juuuuuust right

davisbs999 said:
I too am considering switching from Inc to X. I was sold until I read about lag/artifact issues with Motoblur. The thing that I love most about the Inc is that it runs so flawlessly. My biggest reason I traded in my N1 for the Inc was that the N1's UI was flawed (yes I know it ran on stock Android), so the idea of taking a step backward in that regard is unappealing. However, I, for one, love the idea of having a bigger screen and SWYPE, which should make texting and data input a breeze. I know the processor on the X is made my TI, but I have found the Inc's Snapdragon to be awesome, so that's not a huge factor to me. Nor is the HDMI (although it would be nice if a TV out cord would come out for the Inc, despite not being HDMI). The Inc is rooted, the but process is such a PITA that I am not going to bother with it anymore until it is simplified (this is by far the thing I miss most about the N1). Basically, the X has some small advantages, but an inferior UI. So I guess I am back where i started--unsure of which device to go with.
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The test videos show there is not MotoBlur on, it is actually disabled by default. All the recent test videos show straight Android with Moto widgets, no blur overlay.

I'm keeping my Inc. I'll save a little cash and watch as the Dev's really unlock the power of this little beast. Plus I'm not keen on Motoblur. I guess I'm the only one who's wondering why the Droid 2 is launching only a few months behind the X... I'll just wait a few months and see.
Actually I'm hoping that the Droid X release prompts HTC to crank out some goodies for the Incredible like a multimedia station and car dock.
Where are you HTC?

Pretty sure im going to be keeping my dinc, i do like the thought of a big screen for media viewing but i am really not to keen on buying another phone from motorola. I had the droid and had nothing but problems. What i would really like is for htc come out with a 4" screen and nice slide out qwerty like on the touch pro 2.

ehh...
Im not spending 600 dollars on a phone that's slightly better than mine sorry. Nor am I going to waste my upgrade on a the x. The inc is basically a smaller evo without the hdmi and front facing cam. I just don't see any point in switching except bragging rights. I won't lie the x looks great but I can wait.. next year is going to be crazy..lte, more 4 inch devices, and front facing cams will probably standard maybe even two ghz devices.
And hello this phone came out two months ago its not outdated.

I'll always have a soft spot in my heart for Motorola. They have made the best pure cell phones I've had (an old StarTAC analog and an e815). The radios were unparalleled, and voice quality was very good.
But the Inc is the best all-around personal computing/communication/information device I've ever owned, and it is not much bigger than those old Moto phones of yore. It's the same size as the Samsung Omnia I had previously, but has 4x the screen resolution, is a better pure phone, and has none of the lag and performance issues the Sammy had (even with custom ROMs and task managers).
It sounds (from the 2 reviews I've read) like the Droid X will continue Motorola's tradition of good phone performance. But its large size might put me off. Also, apparently the HDMI-out is not supported by most of the phone's apps. And you'll probably have to wait awhile for rooting, if you are into that sort of thing (I just rooted my Inc this evening).
I think either would be a great choice, especially if I didn't have to shell out more money for the Moto. It would probably come down to whichever one they could get me the quickest

I like my DI especially now that its rooted, but given the free chance to trade to the moto x I probably would. The droid x has a gpu, and a larger screen. Plus I like motorola, they havent had any inventory problems so the dev community would probably grow quickly. I would have to hold it in my hand to see if it was too big or not, but I think it would be nice to have the larger screen. It would use up a ton of battery but I would just buy a couple extra.
I dont think its worth an upgrade for full price but its a nice option. There will be phones with dual core chips and gpu's and whatever else all coming by the end of the year im sure. Ill wait a little bit more.

I don't really see any reason to pay another 500+ dollars for a phone that semi better than the inc. My new every 2 is up April of next year and i'm sure by then we'll have dual core CPU and maybe even 1 GB ram with a nice GPU only time can tell. Think i'm going to hold out on any new phones until next year sad to see iPhone 4 spank the inc but ill live.

No thanks. I'm very happy and have no desire for something larger. I AM looking forward to prospective updates, though.

My Lg G4 review

Morning All,
Thought I would share my thoughts on the LG G4 after owning it for a month. I use the in a business environment where I will spend 2-4 hours per day talking on it, so my review will come from that perspective more that from a gaming perspective. It was this difference in usage pattern that I thought may interest people.
Currently I have made no real changes to the setup of the device, it is still running stock everything and is a Telstra H815K model.
The look and feel of the device is excellent and gives a real feel of quality. I went for the brown leather option and to date it is completely un-marked by any signs of wear. When I first picked up the phone I was really surprised by how light it was. It is not a small device but it feels very very light and initially it feels like you are holding a toy. I think if you were to hold another phone at the same time you could be forgiven for saying it felt cheap due to the lightness but away from other phones you soon forget that comparison and just appreciate the fact it doesn't weigh a tonne. And really, no one says a Macbook Air feels cheap because it's light.
The leather back is a really really nice differential and I have had people ask what the case was and where they could get something similar. At only a month in I would expect a traditional back to still be pristine, but I had some concerns over the durability of the leather. Suffice to say that it looks exactly the same today as the day I got it. I will say though that my impressions of the black leather back were no where near as positive, as it had the look and feel of the fake leather patterning you often see on the inside of car doors.
Physical layout of the phone works well and it sits well in my hand. The narrow bezel around the screen means the phone is physically small compared to others with the same viewing area, with the draw back that sometimes my pudgy palm can just cross over into the sensor area of the screen. This does only happen when I am playing a game in portrait mode with two hands though so the impacts are limited.
I only have one criticism of the physical design and that is you cannot use the phone effectively if it is on a hard flat surface. This is due to the butt seam in the leather back acting as a pivot point and causing the phone to rock side to side. A usage case for me is to have the phone sitting on my desk and to type a text message on it. This is simply not possible with this phone.
The screen is excellent. Colours are very well reproduced and the colour balance is one of the best I have come across. When I have done a colour balance comparison the phone comes up a little on the blue side. But that for me is a lot nicer than the yellow you see on most other phones. It is also no where near the saturation levels of Samsung. I get no light bleed or detectable changes in brightness or colour and if there are pixels there somewhere they are way too small for me to see
Battery usage for me has been fine in most usage cases. By the end of the work day my phone is reporting that voice calls are using the same amount of battery as screen time, about 30%, and a full battery at 7am will be sitting around 35% come 6pm. In the evening though I have found that the battery will get annihilated by some of the games I am playing. Clash of Clans for example will chew 25%-30% of the battery per hour. That said those games smash my Nexus 9 as well.
Even when I am playing games for extended periods, usually plugged into the mains, I don't find heat to ever be a problem. The phone gets a little warmer than ambient but nothing more. I'm not sure if that is a side effect of the leather back or if the phone actually does run pretty cool but this phone is noticeably cooler than any phone I have owned or used in recent years.
Interface wise the default LG interface is ok. It's not brilliant but it's not completely sucky. It takes more grunt than it really should and the smart bulletin thing is frankly useless but I have used worse (not really a ringing endorsement I know). I've not had any issues with touch sensitivity or lag that I have seen others report and overall the interface feels as smooth as a device this powerful should feel. I will probably dump it when a custom rom is up and running nicely but that will be more about getting rid of the LG apps I will never use. My biggest complaint is the stupid smart notification system, seriously that is an oxymoron if ever there was one. I make lots and lots and lots of phone calls to lots and lots of different people, it's my job! Just because I called a number 3 times in the last week does NOT mean I want to add them as a new contact! So stop filling up my notification tray with "Frequent calls to xxxxxxxxxxxx. Add to contacts?" No! GO AWAY! DIE!!!! Seriously DIE!!!!
Camera is frankly excellent. I particularly love the speed at which it will take the first photo. Use the setting to "take photo on app start" and you can have a photo taken in around a second from pulling the phone out of your pocket. Most of my photos are of action shots of kids running around, and as anyone with kids knows you take 100 photos in the hope of catching one with you kids not looking like complete weirdos. The phone will take photos rapidly, keep moving targets in focus and the quality of the photos are good. When it comes to the manual aspect of the camera, honestly I think that is a bit of a wank. I'm sure it is very very good, but if I am going to take the time to mess around with f-stop and iso settings I will probably just use my SLR. Cameras in phone are replacements for your snappy camera, not a substitute for a SLR.
When it comes to sound quality, I use my phone as a phone not as a media player, so I can only comment on the telephone calls and they are good. Reception is also good being much better than my Note 2 or LG G2 ever were. Talking about reception though I have found the 5g wireless reception to be noticeably worse than other devices and I have had to stick my phone on 2.4g in order for it to have connectivity everywhere in my house. Other devices haven't had that problem.
Wireless charging and quick charging are a non-issue for me in my usage case so I don't have a reason to complain about those though I'm sure they would be a nice to have. Replaceable battery and microsd cards were however a big consideration in my choice. I still have an old Note 2 in use in my house, which is still trucking along after having a new battery put in it. I have also got an Lg G2 which was my first and only sealed phone which is now a useless paperweight as it will only hold charge for about 45 minutes of screen time. (yes I know I can replace the battery but why make it hard?) Phones are getting more and more powerful and the days of needing the next generation, as opposed to wanting, are gone. I now expect my $700 device to be usable for more than 2 years.
Overall I would highly recommend this phone. The things that are missing from it, QI charging, fast charging, finger print stuff, are not core things for me. I would have liked it to have had a slightly larger battery in it but that is offset by the ability to swap the battery at any time. The lightness was an unexpected plus and the screen is excellent. It has also become one of the cheapest flagship devices on the market, making it hard to go past. OEM software is always a bit dodgy but compared to the G2 & G3 it is a big improvement and it is much better than Sumsung's offering.

Nice review. For the most part I agree completely.

Thanks for the review!
Now I am convinced to take the gold plastic version, for typing on a table and for my car's sticky pad

The phone supports Qualcomm QuickCharge 2.0, so not sure why you think "fast charging" is missing from it. Just get a QC2.0-certified charger and a proper USB cable (some can't pass the extra current).

Nice review
Good perspective from how most people actually use a phone. Your observations are spot on.
The one thing I disagree with is the notion that the camera manual mode isn't valuable just because you have an SLR. I think it's fun as nuts. Sure, I'm not going to expect to use my phone for a professional photo shoot, but the point is, the vast majority of the time, you don't actually HAVE your SLR with you. But you always have your phone. It's sure nice to be able to take amazing pictures when all you've got is your phone. Combine manual mode with the raw image format and you can actually do some pretty shockingly nice stuff, in situations where you hadn't planned to cart a big camera along.

siraltus said:
The phone supports Qualcomm QuickCharge 2.0, so not sure why you think "fast charging" is missing from it. Just get a QC2.0-certified charger and a proper USB cable (some can't pass the extra current).
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It doesn't charge as quickly as fully supported devices. The higher output of the 2.0 chargers charges more quickly than standard chargers but there's a good reason LG doesn't list this as a feature of the phone.
{edit} Thanks for others pointing out that the G4 is now listed as official on the Qualcomm site. It seems that while the device is now listed as supported I have read a lot of tests by users that suggest we're not getting quite the speed promised by the spec. Perhaps this doesn't apply to all variants and/or software revisions.

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The phone supports Qualcomm QuickCharge 2.0, so not sure why you think "fast charging" is missing from it. Just get a QC2.0-certified charger and a proper USB cable (some can't pass the extra current).
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It doesn't fully support QuickCharge and while you will see improved charging time with a QC2 charger over stock it still isn't at the full spec. Also this moves you away from full stock in the same way that you can get QI charging with a cheap sticker it isn't something it came with by default. In fairness perhaps I should have noted that QI and QCish could be achieved with relatively cheap accessories.

I noticed the 2.4 vs. 5ghz problem as well. Curious to find out why there's such a disparity in signal strength since 5 should be stronger, not weaker.

jamtre said:
Good perspective from how most people actually use a phone. Your observations are spot on.
The one thing I disagree with is the notion that the camera manual mode isn't valuable just because you have an SLR. I think it's fun as nuts. Sure, I'm not going to expect to use my phone for a professional photo shoot, but the point is, the vast majority of the time, you don't actually HAVE your SLR with you. But you always have your phone. It's sure nice to be able to take amazing pictures when all you've got is your phone. Combine manual mode with the raw image format and you can actually do some pretty shockingly nice stuff, in situations where you hadn't planned to cart a big camera along.
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Thanks.
Also with the camera I am absolutely sure you can get some amazing photos in manual mode, and I would expect that is especially true in low light conditions. I was however approaching it from my usage case which puts it in the too fiddly to use bracket. It's not that the interface is bad, quite the opposite in fact, I just can't see myself using it. Of course YMMV and it may suit your usage patterns well.

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I noticed the 2.4 vs. 5ghz problem as well. Curious to find out why there's such a disparity in signal strength since 5 should be stronger, not weaker.
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Other way around. 5ghz will carry more data than 2.4 but its signal strength will drop off much more quickly. It is also much more susceptible to being blocked by walls. When it comes to signal strength and connectivity the only advantage 5 has over 2.4 is there are often far more devices on 2.4 leading to more collisions. See http://www.speedguide.net/faq/is-5ghz-wireless-better-than-24ghz-340 for more details.
The reason I noted it was I will drop connection on my G4 when it is sat side by side with my Nexus 9 which is not having any issues on the same network.

Ah I meant clarity of signal. Sorry.
Interesting though.

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It doesn't charge as quickly as fully supported devices. The higher output of the 2.0 chargers charges more quickly than standard chargers but there's a good reason LG doesn't list this as a feature of the phone.
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Can you provide source info for it not being a true QuickCharge 2.0 device? It's the first phone listed on the QuickCharge 2.0 page: https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/quick-charge so I'm pretty sure it supports it.
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It doesn't fully support QuickCharge and while you will see improved charging time with a QC2 charger over stock it still isn't at the full spec. Also this moves you away from full stock in the same way that you can get QI charging with a cheap sticker it isn't something it came with by default. In fairness perhaps I should have noted that QI and QCish could be achieved with relatively cheap accessories.
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Can you provide any source information to back this up? It's the first phone listed on the QuickCharge 2.0 page: https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/quick-charge so I'm pretty sure it supports it.
Tests show that it does work, too: http://pocketnow.com/2015/05/11/lg-g4-quick-charge

I'm only going on other threads which other users suggested that the G4 was getting about 1.5%/minute on the quick charge as estimated by other users on the board. If they have since listed it, my apologies. On both 2.0 charges that I've purchases I'm not getting 2%/minute as the Qualcomm spec states.
Once again sorry to misrepresent since the "official" status appears to have changed.

Thanks for the review man

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Can you provide source info for it not being a true QuickCharge 2.0 device? It's the first phone listed on the QuickCharge 2.0 page: https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/quick-charge so I'm pretty sure it supports it.
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Can you provide any source information to back this up? It's the first phone listed on the QuickCharge 2.0 page: https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/quick-charge so I'm pretty sure it supports it.
Tests show that it does work, too: http://pocketnow.com/2015/05/11/lg-g4-quick-charge
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As jammin posted, I was basing it off old information and hadn't seen the specs had been updated. When I got the phone it wasn't listed as QC2 compatible, by either LG or Qualcomm. It is however worth noting that it doesn't come with a compliant charger.

Good review, thank you for taking the time to share your experiences.
On the topic of quick-charging, yes, even with a QC 2.0 charger, it doesn't charge as quickly as is implied by Qualcomm's website, or as fast as other quick-charging phones on the market.
Unfortunately, the phone significantly reduces the charge current as the phone & battery warm up. Buying the phone in summer in New England, it's rare that I consistently get even the ~1600mA that the LG charger is capable of, or the ~1950mA that I can get from my QC 2.0 charger. If the phone is cool, it will start out with those currents, but often quickly drops to about 300mA as things warm up (as the battery gets above ~90F, from what I can see). At 300mA, if it stayed at that current, it would take 10 hours to fully charge.
To me, this warm-temperature slowdown behavior trumps whether QC 2.0 is "fully" implemented. It slows you down to a fraction of what even the stock charger can provide. And you won't stay at the QC 2.0 rate for long, at least in a summer environment. I hope this can be improved with a software change that allows higher temperatures before reducing the charge current.

Update with pics
It's been 4 months since my original review and it still stands as the best phone I have owned. I really really wish root was easier and resultingly there was a large developer base but outside of that I love this phone.
Originally when I bought the leather I was concerned about how it would hold up. So far I have been very happy! My phones don't have the easiest life so to see the leather holding up so well really makes me happy. The photos below were taken with the G4 in question.

"S7 Plus" rumours are fewer & fewer, I think we're only getting 5.1 + 5.5Edge :(

"S7 Plus" rumours are fewer & fewer, I think we're only getting 5.1 + 5.5Edge
Really want a 5.7" Galaxy S7 Plus, NON EDGE edition.
I do not like the crappy changes to the Note 5 (IR, MicroSD, battery, no USB C)
Really was hoping for an S7, USB-C, IR Blaster, MicroSD (I can get over the battery) but it has to be 5.7"
I think I'm doomed. Don't want to wait until Sept / Oct for a Note 6 (if they even fix the poor decisions of the Note 5)
Anyone else looking at the S7 large, hoping the rumours were true?

Yes me too but i really wish that the note 6 comes along with the s6 and the s6 edge Samsung always push all the boundaries with her note serie and i heard that all the missing features are coming back as the IR and micro SD

I have a bad feeling the Note will remain a bad series now, no IR Blaster, no MicroSD - they'll aim it at "business" or something.
Also I don't NEED OR WANT the stupid S-Pen, it's wasting potential battery space.

What you described is the Note 5.... It's just a larger S6 really. Wait for the Note 6 and you'll get a larger S7.

geoff5093 said:
What you described is the Note 5.... It's just a larger S6 really. Wait for the Note 6 and you'll get a larger S7.
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They still axed the IR Blaster from S6 to N5 though

wizzbang3 said:
They still axed the IR Blaster from S6 to N5 though
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They probably won't bring it back on the S7 either.
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geoff5093 said:
They probably won't bring it back on the S7 either.
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The question I ask myself is what was their rationale in removing the IR blaster, really! If they bring the IR and SD Card back, then I may consider another Samsung handset in the future; I could care less about the battery really. Until then, my N4 is a damn rockstar which I hope to keep for as long as I can. I do envy the more memory and speed other Samsung phones are coming out with and other OEMs are pushing, but the N4 is like the zenith of the Samsung days before their decline to mediocrity Apple-like scheme.
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The question I ask myself is what was their rationale in removing the IR blaster, really! If they bring the IR and SD Card back, then I may consider another Samsung handset in the future; I could care less about the battery really. Until then, my N4 is a damn rockstar which I hope to keep for as long as I can. I do envy the more memory and speed other Samsung phones are coming out with and other OEMs are pushing, but the N4 is like the zenith of the Samsung days before their decline to mediocrity Apple-like scheme.
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The IR blaster was one of those retro things one phone brought back and others followed, it's likely due to cost. I don't know anyone personally who actually used it on theirs. I think I tried it once or twice to mess with a TV at a bar, but that was it.

geoff5093 said:
The IR blaster was one of those retro things one phone brought back and others followed, it's likely due to cost. I don't know anyone personally who actually used it on theirs. I think I tried it once or twice to mess with a TV at a bar, but that was it.
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I see. I use it everyday, even if I have my xfinity remote next to me, I just open up 'Peel Smart' and get a personalized listing of my fav channels, shows, and with their latest update, personalized shows and channels with reminders to even remotely set your DVR to record your fav show/movie if you have any set up along with the app, to record your show. It is a nice convenience to have. I guess it is what it is!
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They anyway have too many SKU's to maintain. 2 flagships during 1st half of year is more than enough for them and the world.

geoff5093 said:
They probably won't bring it back on the S7 either.
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Multiple mockups of the S7 case accommodates the IR Blaster.

One of the leakers on twitter continues to claim these will NOT have USB-C
It's 2016.
No USB-C
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I can't imagine that Samsung would not include USB-C with the S7. I can't say that it would be a deal breaker for me, but it would be a big let down.

I wonder how are they going to manage the confusion with S7 and S6 Mini coming out in a short time - unless they plan to scrap S6 Mini and supersede it with S7 Mini...

First USB-C rumour printed by Sammobile, sounds like wild speculation to me, considering no one else said anything positive about USB-C at all.

wizzbang3 said:
One of the leakers on twitter continues to claim these will NOT have USB-C
It's 2016.
No USB-C
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Now this is one thing which willl create a lot of debate. Practically speaking, you are not going to gain much with USB-C.
1. Fast charging can happen without USB-C. S6/Note5 charges faster than Nexus 5x/6p with USB-C.
2. Transfer rate bottleneck is NAND rather than protocol bandwidth. You can use Wifi if you need better throughput.
Instead look at the flip side:
I will need extra cables. And USB-C cables are really bad now, most what you find in normal stores are really bad quality. Check this out:
https://plus.google.com/collection/s0Inv
https://www.amazon.com/gp/pdp/profile/A25GROL6KJV3QG/ref=cm_cr_rdp_pdp
http://www.theverge.com/2016/2/4/10916264/usb-c-russian-roulette-power-cords
If you want to hunt for cables, you will probably have to use this link:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...1dl8I91V4-eP_sfNVNzbA/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=0
See many of the cables are just bad. With normal microUSB, nobody is going to face this problem. Also a question of existing accessories and Gear VR. Gear VR works only with microUSB. I don't think normal consumer is going to go through all this hassle before buying a cable, and may end up frying the phone. microUSB in 2016 isn't such a bad thing.

CLARiiON said:
Now this is one thing which willl create a lot of debate. Practically speaking, you are not going to gain much with USB-C.
1. Fast charging can happen without USB-C. S6/Note5 charges faster than Nexus 5x/6p with USB-C.
2. Transfer rate bottleneck is NAND rather than protocol bandwidth. You can use Wifi if you need better throughput.
Instead look at the flip side:
I will need extra cables. And USB-C cables are really bad now, most what you find in normal stores are really bad quality. Check this out:
https://plus.google.com/collection/s0Inv
https://www.amazon.com/gp/pdp/profile/A25GROL6KJV3QG/ref=cm_cr_rdp_pdp
http://www.theverge.com/2016/2/4/10916264/usb-c-russian-roulette-power-cords
If you want to hunt for cables, you will probably have to use this link:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...1dl8I91V4-eP_sfNVNzbA/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=0
See many of the cables are just bad. With normal microUSB, nobody is going to face this problem. Also a question of existing accessories and Gear VR. Gear VR works only with microUSB. I don't think normal consumer is going to go through all this hassle before buying a cable, and may end up frying the phone. microUSB in 2016 isn't such a bad thing.
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"Not much to gain" is irrelevant, it's about adopting modern technologies which ensure you're "future proofing" your device.
I intend to move to all USB-C as soon as possible, it can put through more power, it can be faster than MicroUSB. Also claiming nand is the bottleneck is fine on older phones, the S6 onwards has UFS IIRC and vastly faster memory than they used to.
You DO NOT sell a "flagship phone" in 2016 without USB-C when the mid range good ones have USB-C. In 12 months they all will, period. Adopt now.

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"Not much to gain" is irrelevant, it's about adopting modern technologies which ensure you're "future proofing" your device.
I intend to move to all USB-C as soon as possible, it can put through more power, it can be faster than MicroUSB. Also claiming nand is the bottleneck is fine on older phones, the S6 onwards has UFS IIRC and vastly faster memory than they used to.
You DO NOT sell a "flagship phone" in 2016 without USB-C when the mid range good ones have USB-C. In 12 months they all will, period. Adopt now.
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Talk in terms of data/specifics rather than intangibles like "future proofing".
1. What future proofing are you talking about? Other than reversible connector, what advantage does One Plus 2 provide over microUSB in S6? First mention it specifically and than we will discuss.
2. Regards to charging, S6/Note5 and other devices can charge faster than USB-C in Nexus 6p? So what is your argument here?
3. If you want to transfer data fast, you can easily use Wifi, or do you have anything against using Wifi?
Let's just assume everything above is irrelevant to you, how do you connect the Gear VR?
And most of all, how do you stop the common man from buying rogue USB-C cable? When I catagorically showed you proof that most USB-C cables are bad, and some can actually fryb your system, how do you stop the common man from buying those?
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016...e-thats-so-bad-it-fried-his-chromebook-pixel/
^^ Tell me how you stop a common man from doing the same mistake, when the Google engineer couldn't avoid it? Smaung thinks about common man who has no clue about technology, not geeks in XDA.
New technologies are all good, but one needs to have proper situation to send it to mass market. The first 4G LTE smartphone (like Thunderboth) were technically "future-proof". But they had pathetic batterylife during initial stages of LTE technology. What was the use of "future proofing" when it resulted in negative result?

Stop, you're embarrassing yourself, just stop.

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Stop, you're embarrassing yourself, just stop.
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All you have done is throw across buzz words like "future proofing" just like someone with no knowledge in this topic. You don't have answer to single points I raised, but all you want is so-called future proofing. I bet you are a guy who thinks camera quality is measured by number of mega pixels. Your last statement just proves you have no valid argument, but just conceding defeat. In last 6 hours, you have not come-up with a single answer/point to disaprove anything I said.
You don't even need a pea-sized brain to type that last statement.

What do you want to see in the S8/S9 (Edge)?

I very much like my S7E, more so after also buying an OP3 which is great ... just not S7E great.
Still, its not perfect so these are things I'd like to see changed in the next version. These are mostly hardware related as software implementations could be made available to existing S7 and even earlier generations and I did a separate thread on that (as well as writing to Samsung directly);
- A screw on wide angle lens and case included (C'mon, its a 600 quid phone)
- 16mp camera with larger sensor retaining the light sensitivity.
- Dedicated DAC (the exynox version has that already but something like a next gen ESS SABRE mobile chip would do nicely thank you very much).
- Capacitive Home button
- 4000mamp capacity battery with no increase in size/thickness.
- A Samsung made screen protector that actually works (included) (C'mon, its a 600quid phone)
- USB Type C
- A more 'intelligent' Edge which can distinguish between accidental touch and deliberate operation (I guess that's software but hey ... C'mon, its a 600 quid phone)
- Gorilla Glass X, truly scratch proof.
- Headphone socket at bottom
- IR blaster
Feel free to add

You keep talking about the price. If you want all that, it's gonna be even more expensive lol. But yeah, USB C, better camera (don't care about how many pixels as long as it's better), and 4k screen for better VR
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More Colors!

- stereo speakers (either at the front or top and bottom edges)
- better edge touch-protection (sure some phone cases fix that, but cases are ugly)
- IR blaster
- real water resistance/proof
- edge in smaller size phone with same high-end specs (I miss being able to do everything on my phone with one hand)

Touch on the Home button to unlock the phone from sleep. No more tapping for unlocking.
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10+ hrs SOT
No more android system battery drain
Fully optimized RAM management
True multitasking
More root features out of the box (i.e. display scaling)
And less cartoonish touchwiz icons
Thats all for now. Thanks
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You keep talking about the price. If you want all that, it's gonna be even more expensive lol. But yeah, USB C, better camera (don't care about how many pixels as long as it's better), and 4k screen for better VR
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If tiny and relatively new companies like OnePlus and Elephone can produce phones they do at prices they do then a giant like samsung should easily be able to incorporate some of the above for the flagship prices they charge.
3 or 4 years down the line the mentioned spec and features will be common place on all but the very cheapest phones anyway.
Note though I didn't mention processor. I believe that we have reached a plateau that will suffice for some time.
Better spending resources on more useful things. Mind, the press is partly to blame. Example, they downmark some phones for using say one of the new snapdragon 6series processors! There is hardly any software or user habits out there to even remotely tax that midrange chip!
Last thing we need IMHO is more processor power.

A more rugged, less slippery build quality.
A screen that's even better in sunlight than the S7's, which is already the best in the business
Better, louder sound quality.
For me, battery life is fine on the S7 edge, but more is always better. And the headphone socket is already on the bottom. At least it is on mine.
USB C? I've got micro USB cables everywhere I go. I don't want to have to buy a bunch of new cables (and maybe chargers) to use my next phone, or carry two kinds of cables all the time (for old and new devices). But it's the way of the future, even if the benefits for the vast majority of users are minimal.
4K? What was that about better battery life? How many buyers really care about VR?
10 hours SOT? How thick a phone are you willing to accept? 10 hours on a 4K screen is going to need a MUCH bigger battery than the S7.
Unlock without pressing the home button? That means the fingerprint sensor is always powered. There's that trade-off with battery life again. Ditto for "true" multi-tasking. That's going to need a much faster processor, which will use a lot more power. And that's something Google would have to do, not Samsung.

You gotta love this phone

I've owned this great Nexus 6 since shortly after it was introduced. I've loved it since day 1. Lately I've been having problems with the USB connector. It was loose and the charging cable was constantly falling out. So I figured it was time to move on to a new phone. I hastily ordered a new Pixel 2 XL on Swappa without a second thought... it was was afterall the newest "Nexus".
I anticipated its arrival for a week. When it arrived I opened it up and did just a very minimal setup, just so I could see the settings. I was underwhelmed and immediately realized there was nothing about it that was better than the Nexus.
It had great specs, but nothing that was very exciting. It is said to have a spectacular camera, but that isn't a priority. I was thinking about unlocking the bootloader, flashing a rom and rooting. But I would end up with nothing better than the Nexus. So I did nothing but put it back in the box, list it on Swappa, sold it, and shipped it.
I found someone who said they would fix the USB connector, so I took it to his shop, he fixed it and I paid him $25 for his trouble even though he didn't charge me for a minute's work.
Even though the purchase and sale cost me some money, I am so pleased to have a renewed appreciation for my Nexus. There isn't a better phone on the market for me. I'm running Nitrogen 8.1 ROM and couldn't be happier.
The other man's grass is always greener.

I recently "upgraded" from my N6 to the OP5T 128GB version. My USB charge port is loose as well. I also have some screen burn starting from the bottom of the screen fading up. Mine pretty much needs a complete overall to make it like new again. I mainly use it for gaming. So, after some thorough research I chose the OP5T. I couldn't be more pleased with the OP5T. I did a minimal setup at first just like you did. I tested everything out first before customizing it. I then decided that I liked it enough to proceed with customization. Unlocked BL, rooted, running AICP 13.1 w/ EX Kernel. Dam this thing is lightning fast. Good camera. Excellent battery life. Excellent SOT. Still got to keep the 3.5mm jack. Quick charging with that Dash Charger. I do miss the front-facing speakers.

AS I 've said in many threads Phone makers have not made phone as good since
Over Priced and they always missing something
Headphone jacks Dual Speakers 2K Screen no NFC or Wireless changing
why just bought a new Battery Will run my another 2 years.

Bought it used in late 2017 and can't believe how much I missed out - terrific compared to devices I previously owned such as the mate 7 and note 4, direct ompetitors
Onknight said:
AS I 've said in many threads Phone makers have not made phone as good since
Over Priced and they always missing something
Headphone jacks Dual Speakers 2K Screen no NFC or Wireless changing
why just bought a new Battery Will run my another 2 years.
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2014 was the peak in terms of hardware enhancement for me, you had 1080p screens standardizing after 2013, emphasis on battery life from lots of manufacturers, much more efficient chipsets particularly the 801. Phablets started to become a bit more accessible after the note 3 monopoly. Stock android still had some official love with M8/S5 google play editions. I've traded a lot of phones for AOSP Roms but almost all 2013/2014, perfect combination of hardware and software
After that and the Iphone 6 the competition centered around niche devices emulating it. Additions that are so insignificant and obviously made to entice people away for the Iphone's juicy profit margin. The S9 is the saddest example of this. Its high time someone breaks through with a major innovative product like the N-series days and Iphone.

Agreed!
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I've owned this great Nexus 6 since shortly after it was introduced. I've loved it since day 1. Lately I've been having problems with the USB connector. It was loose and the charging cable was constantly falling out. So I figured it was time to move on to a new phone. I hastily ordered a new Pixel 2 XL on Swappa without a second thought... it was was afterall the newest "Nexus".
I anticipated its arrival for a week. When it arrived I opened it up and did just a very minimal setup, just so I could see the settings. I was underwhelmed and immediately realized there was nothing about it that was better than the Nexus.
It had great specs, but nothing that was very exciting. It is said to have a spectacular camera, but that isn't a priority. I was thinking about unlocking the bootloader, flashing a rom and rooting. But I would end up with nothing better than the Nexus. So I did nothing but put it back in the box, list it on Swappa, sold it, and shipped it.
I found someone who said they would fix the USB connector, so I took it to his shop, he fixed it and I paid him $25 for his trouble even though he didn't charge me for a minute's work.
Even though the purchase and sale cost me some money, I am so pleased to have a renewed appreciation for my Nexus. There isn't a better phone on the market for me. I'm running Nitrogen 8.1 ROM and couldn't be happier.
The other man's grass is always greener.
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I have Nexus 6 in mint condition I was facing some lag and general slow performance on stock Nougat 7.1. but then I installed Nitrogen OS Oreo 8.1 and boy it's fast!

Sorry, but the pixel 2 is miles better than the N6 performance wise. I only returned mine because it had GPS issues otherwise I never would have looked back. The pixel 1 however was only a minor upgrade.

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Sorry, but the pixel 2 is miles better than the N6 performance wise. I only returned mine because it had GPS issues otherwise I never would have looked back. The pixel 1 however was only a minor upgrade.
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Pixel suck here a few reasons why .
No headphone Jack Display Problems Burn-In Concerns 2-Year Warranty
Quality Control Issues at Factory and I could go on
What peace of crap for $1000 CND DOllars + tax
They made nothing better then Nexus 6 yes you lose some speed but the upgrade is not worth a $1000 CND
I like Nexus Program it showed people how phone could made well and not break the bank
The more bells and whistle the higher the Price and less Quality Control
No headphone jack I am sorry I like my headphone Jack
I'll keep this phone atleast 2 more years.

Nexus 6 was one phone done right. Even today it still looks pretty awesome.

almahix said:
I found someone who said they would fix the USB connector, so I took it to his shop, he fixed it and I paid him $25 for his trouble even though he didn't charge me for a minute's work.
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You had a USB port replacement? Is that even possible? I know soldering is involved, but did you lose fast charging & usb otg capabilities? I'm just wondering. I have a bad usb port as well.
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93zx7 said:
I recently "upgraded" from my N6 to the OP5T 128GB version. My USB charge port is loose as well. I also have some screen burn starting from the bottom of the screen fading up. Mine pretty much needs a complete overall to make it like new again. I mainly use it for gaming. So, after some thorough research I chose the OP5T. I couldn't be more pleased with the OP5T. I did a minimal setup at first just like you did. I tested everything out first before customizing it. I then decided that I liked it enough to proceed with customization. Unlocked BL, rooted, running AICP 13.1 w/ EX Kernel. Dam this thing is lightning fast. Good camera. Excellent battery life. Excellent SOT. Still got to keep the 3.5mm jack. Quick charging with that Dash Charger. I do miss the front-facing speakers.
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Exactly what I'm thinking for upgrade. How do you compare the speakers though?

Just dug out my shamu and flashed the latest linage OS. Still love the phone. It was years ahead of its time! I have had every single Nexus and pixel since and while the camera is vastly improved as is battery life on the pixels, Little else is all that impressive over the good ole shamu. I will say however that my daily drivers are now OnePlus devices, had the 5, 5T and now the 6. Very impressed and like them a lot. Much better replacement choice for the shamu user.. At least if you don't have Verizon...

Kind of in the same dilemma as you guys, I have a Nexus 6 right now and am considering an upgrade when the Pixel 3's come out, I was considering the 3XL, or possibly the 3 but then gave some thought to going with the 2XL and saving a bunch of cash. The 3XL is looking to be at least $1,000 or around $43/month added to my Fi bill, while the 2XL will likely drop significantly in price, possibly around $400 or about $17/month.
My biggest issues with my N6 right now are battery life and the USB port has been problematic for a couple years but I have dealt with it, but it's getting to the point where's it's extremely difficult to get it to recognize the cable being plugged in. So, I got a wireless charger for the house and the car, I think because the curve of the phone they're both a little finicky but I think I have found the "sweet spot" in where to set the phone so they both work, so that helps a lot with the USB port issue. I could spend about $20 and replace the battery and it likely would be very worth it, might do it even if I upgrade the phone just to have a backup or one to play music off of in the garage.
My daily usage mostly consists of a little web browsing, playing music quite a bit,GPS when needed, couple of games when waiting for Dr appointments and stuff like that but not much otherwise. I don't take many pics, just some here and there and would like the speed to be better but for the amount I use it the camera isn't a big selling point to me. With that said what are your thoughts on just getting a new battery, upgrade to the 2XL or one of the 3's when they come out?

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Kind of in the same dilemma as you guys, I have a Nexus 6 right now and am considering an upgrade when the Pixel 3's come out, I was considering the 3XL, or possibly the 3 but then gave some thought to going with the 2XL and saving a bunch of cash. The 3XL is looking to be at least $1,000 or around $43/month added to my Fi bill, while the 2XL will likely drop significantly in price, possibly around $400 or about $17/month.
My biggest issues with my N6 right now are battery life and the USB port has been problematic for a couple years but I have dealt with it, but it's getting to the point where's it's extremely difficult to get it to recognize the cable being plugged in. So, I got a wireless charger for the house and the car, I think because the curve of the phone they're both a little finicky but I think I have found the "sweet spot" in where to set the phone so they both work, so that helps a lot with the USB port issue. I could spend about $20 and replace the battery and it likely would be very worth it, might do it even if I upgrade the phone just to have a backup or one to play music off of in the garage.
My daily usage mostly consists of a little web browsing, playing music quite a bit,GPS when needed, couple of games when waiting for Dr appointments and stuff like that but not much otherwise. I don't take many pics, just some here and there and would like the speed to be better but for the amount I use it the camera isn't a big selling point to me. With that said what are your thoughts on just getting a new battery, upgrade to the 2XL or one of the 3's when they come out?
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This is where I am at as well. Minus my USB seems to be working. I feel changing the battery would help me out as well. The more reading I do, the more apprehensive I am. I see reports of no change after battery change, or wireless charging no longer works, or cutting the power button cable. I just don't even want to deal with that. I also read that a user took his phone into a battery place and they broke his phone. Ended up giving him $250 for the device. So I am dealing with my Nexus 6. I am also debating on a Pixel XL 2. The Pixel 3 is way out of my price range.

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This is where I am at as well. Minus my USB seems to be working. I feel changing the battery would help me out as well. The more reading I do, the more apprehensive I am. I see reports of no change after battery change, or wireless charging no longer works, or cutting the power button cable. I just don't even want to deal with that. I also read that a user took his phone into a battery place and they broke his phone. Ended up giving him $250 for the device. So I am dealing with my Nexus 6. I am also debating on a Pixel XL 2. The Pixel 3 is way out of my price range.
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I've swapped batteries recently, and I can tell You that only damage You can do is basically when removing backcover, and thats easily avoidable if You're careful. Under the backplate only thing that might get damaged is the volume/power ribbon and it goes from height of volume/power buttons up till around top of the phone. Oh, and the frame can get damaged too, but thats extreme case, since the mid section of the frame (under where the battery and wireless charging coil sits) can survive bending, just something to keep in mind when separating the backcover (If it sticks hard to the cover, just warm it up some more and separate with plastic card/carefully with something made from metal). After the backcover is gone You're basically set .

Looks like a lot of N6 users have this problem with the USB connector. Mine charges only under a certain angle but i'm not buying a new phone
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Hoantjes said:
Looks like a lot of N6 users have this problem with the USB connector. Mine charges only under a certain angle but i'm not buying a new phone
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I had this issue and thought it was toast. Got a toothpick and whittled it down so it fit around inside the entire port. Cleaned a whole lot of crap out of it and now it charges like it was brand new.

Phone is still functional with lineageOS for normal activities. youtube and browsing. I still prefer the 16:9 even if it makes the phone wide. The games i play on the n6 vs the pixel xl 2 are sluggish in comparison. I'm about to use it and slap a sprint BYOD sim into it.

I think those complaining about the price of the Pixels are forgetting that the Nexus 6 was very expensive when it came out. Having bought a Nexus 4 previously I was interested in a Nexus 6 but I could not justify the expense to myself. Eventually after the release of the 6P a local store had some remaining 6s and reduced the price to where I could justify buying one. But they were as expensive as flagships of the time.
The same has happened with the Pixel, a couple of months ago the last few new ones on sale locally were reduced and I bought a Pixel XL. I wanted something new, with developer support and with a headphone socket.
But in some ways the Pixel XL is less than a Nexus 6, notably there is no notification LED and the screen is smaller and especially narrower. I am a Linux server admin and one of the things I occasionally do is SSH to a server, and the Pixel XL screen isn't as good for that. Sure it's faster but I don't really need a faster CPU.
The whole trend to make narrower screens and remove useful features like notification LEDs and headphone sockets is making newer smartphones worse. So I hope to keep using the Nexus 6 for a while yet. I bought a wireless charging pad so that I would not wear out the USB socket as quickly. I use double tap to wake in order to not wear out the power/wake button (my Nexus 4 suffers from a power button which now needs a good push to work).

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This is where I am at as well. Minus my USB seems to be working. I feel changing the battery would help me out as well. The more reading I do, the more apprehensive I am. I see reports of no change after battery change, or wireless charging no longer works, or cutting the power button cable. I just don't even want to deal with that. I also read that a user took his phone into a battery place and they broke his phone. Ended up giving him $250 for the device. So I am dealing with my Nexus 6. I am also debating on a Pixel XL 2. The Pixel 3 is way out of my price range.
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Yeah I just purchased a nexus 6 this year, and it had a bad battery. So being I have a little experience in the field of phones, I ordered a battery and I carefully opened it up. - I got it all apart and changed the battery out, when I had finished all worked as intended. It isn't too difficult to do. :good:

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I've owned this great Nexus 6 since shortly after it was introduced. I've loved it since day 1. Lately I've been having problems with the USB connector. It was loose and the charging cable was constantly falling out. So I figured it was time to move on to a new phone. I hastily ordered a new Pixel 2 XL on Swappa without a second thought... it was was afterall the newest "Nexus".
I anticipated its arrival for a week. When it arrived I opened it up and did just a very minimal setup, just so I could see the settings. I was underwhelmed and immediately realized there was nothing about it that was better than the Nexus.
It had great specs, but nothing that was very exciting. It is said to have a spectacular camera, but that isn't a priority. I was thinking about unlocking the bootloader, flashing a rom and rooting. But I would end up with nothing better than the Nexus. So I did nothing but put it back in the box, list it on Swappa, sold it, and shipped it.
I found someone who said they would fix the USB connector, so I took it to his shop, he fixed it and I paid him $25 for his trouble even though he didn't charge me for a minute's work.
Even though the purchase and sale cost me some money, I am so pleased to have a renewed appreciation for my Nexus. There isn't a better phone on the market for me. I'm running Nitrogen 8.1 ROM and couldn't be happier.
The other man's grass is always greener.
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I nearly agree. The Nexus 6 was a great phone. Well ahead of its time in many/most respects. In some ways, I did find the pixel2xl a bit of a downgrade, in particular, while both are called a "6 inch", the Nexus 6 is most definitely bigger. Especially its width, which is the most important dimension since width dictates the utility of the on screen keyboard. I found the on screen keyboard on the N6 to be "adequate", and on the P2XL, I find it to be "very challenging". Also the lack of wireless charging.
You mention the camera. To be honest, I can't much tell the difference between the cameras, except that the p2xl is ***FASTER*** and more stable (mostly affects video). The image quality is roughly the same. N6 was way ahead of its time in that respect as well, even throwing in OIS, which wasn't repeated until... P2XL. The P1's EIS makes your brain hurt -- motions are very unnatural on it. The EIS+OIS combination on the P2 really is incredible though.
But the big issue with the N6? No more support from Google, and I just don't have time to keep it up myself, nor the desire to wade through buggy "kitchen sink" system images hacked up by high school kids who want to bloat it out with completely useless and half baked "features". The phone has to actually work reliably, and so from that point of view, it was time to move on. My service provider has also upgraded from HSPA to LTE, but the N6 only supports LTE on a band that they're barely using for LTE.
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thetallguy said:
I think those complaining about the price of the Pixels are forgetting that the Nexus 6 was very expensive when it came out.
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That. $700 for the N6 at launch. That's $750 with 4 years of inflation factored in.
But in some ways the Pixel XL is less than a Nexus 6, notably there is no notification LED
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Eh.... you got that backwards. Nexus 6 is the one that didn't ship with a working notification light. Some hacks have partially enabled it, but to my knowledge, nobody ever got the blinking hardware working for it (since the blink function is simply not implemented in the firmware). The pixel's *ALL* have a working notification light, you just have to turn them on, which (unlike N6) you can do from the settings menu.
Settings --> Notifications --> Advanced --> Notifications --> Blink light. At least that is where it is on Android 9.
The whole trend to make narrower screens
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Agreed. Wider screen is more useful. Give me a 6" 16x10 and I'll be much happier than the bullpoop 6" on the P2XL.
and remove useful features like notification LEDs
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Addressed above. Still there.
and headphone sockets
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How is that a useful feature? The last thing I ever would want to do, is fumble around with tangled and probably broken wires when I'm trying to use my phone. Good riddance to the dirt sucking water injection port!
I bought a wireless charging pad.
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Miss that.

96carboard said:
Eh.... you got that backwards. Nexus 6 is the one that didn't ship with a working notification light. Some hacks have partially enabled it, but to my knowledge, nobody ever got the blinking hardware working for it (since the blink function is simply not implemented in the firmware). The pixel's *ALL* have a working notification light, you just have to turn them on, which (unlike N6) you can do from the settings menu.
Settings --> Notifications --> Advanced --> Notifications --> Blink light. At least that is where it is on Android 9.
How is that a useful feature? The last thing I ever would want to do, is fumble around with tangled and probably broken wires when I'm trying to use my phone. Good riddance to the dirt sucking water injection port!
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Yes the N6 LED wasn't enabled in stock firmware, but it is there and works with the LineageOS ROM I have installed.
Thank you for helping with the setting on the Pixel XL. I am amazed that it wasn't set to on when new out of the box. A person would never know it was there.
I think I prefer the steady light over the blink as I know I will see it when I glance at the phone. Yes I know it would use more power.
Both my cars, one 10+ years old and the other 20+ years old don't have bluetooth inputs but do have 3.5mm inputs, so the audio out on the smartphone is useful for music while driving. I use that more often than using headphones. It is more expensive to replace the car stereo or the whole car than finding a smartphone with a 3.5mm socket. Also I sometimes plug in one of the sets of computer speakers I have lying around. I don't need to go out and spend more money on the silly bluetooth speakers which are mostly not even in stereo.