Guys, I just purchased the Tattoo yesterday after checking specs worldwide and on all forums, and today I was going through the box specs it mentions support only up to EDGE. I was shocked and called the HTC helpline and was told that the India version does not support 3G !!!! This is after the store person checking specs. and confirming that it is 3g...Please can anyone throw light on this...I am saddended as I wanted a future proof phone atleast for a cple of years....Also if any developer or inside guy would have an idea whether this could just be a software limitation or even a hardware one...Thanks
yeah.... even i am fooled like that only. i thought 3G is also there before i buy it. the very next day when i was searching for it, i couldnt get that. very sad with the date of auctioning 3G in india coming nearer & you get a blow underneath is not fair from HTC.... too sad
i didnt expect this kind of royal work from internationally well-known company....
Contacted HTC support
I contacted HTC support and to a very long query they answered
"Dear Kashish Dhanjani,
Thank you for contacting our Customer Support Center. We are dedicated to providing you with the best quality service and answering all of your questions and concerns.
To clarify your issue, you stated that: YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO ACCESS 3 G SERVICES IN HTC DIAMOND.
We would like to intimate that, HTC Tattoo is not 3G enabled phone. It is Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
For more information visit http://www.htc.com/in/product/tattoo/specification.html
If the above steps do not resolve your issue, we invite you to visit the support area on our Web site. Please go to: http://www.htc.com/www/support.aspx
Or you can go to: http://www.htc.com/select_country.htm, select your country and then click on the Support tab.
You can also call our Call Center at: 1800 11 33 77
if you have further questions.
Thank you once again for your continued patronage.
Best regards,
Sartaj.
HTC"
I don't understand what course of action we have here, only we can hope that this is an OS limitation they actually haven't limited the hardware, may be some advanced members can throw some light on this?
hi kashish, its evident from their reply that its EDGE enabled phone only. i hope its not limited by OS. infact hardware itself is not there i guess... how did u come to know that its just an OS limited functionality??? i have no idea.... even i am curious to know the answer because i too own a tattoo just like u....
one doubt i have, what if i flash my tattoo with European ROM's??? will that enable 3G function on my tattoo according to you ???? just curiosity..
we will never knw!
Hey...i dont think we;ll know after flashing unless we get 3g in india! i guess we've been dealt a sour deal..which city are you in? we can go try to raise hell at the HTC service ctnre or something....
i am placed in bangalore... i dont think we can do much about it. more over, they have not quoted anywhere on their asian site saying that, its 3G. even i saw specifications on gsmarena.com & went straightaway to buy it... i dont know about u.
Let me assure u that, if u think that we can do something about it, i will give u company. where r u placed in India???
No 3G in Tattoo
Guys,
I have also been a victim of this and after purchasing the tattoo i came to know there is no 3G... Let me also tell u that the indian version of the HTC Diamond also did not have 3G...
Sitting back and when i started to think.. I went to the htc website and made a bit research.. Going to the European Tattoo site it shows me
HSDPA/WCDMA:
Europe/Asia: 900/2100 MHz
Up to 384 kbps up-link and 7.2 Mbps down-link speeds
and in US its a bit different (P.S. Tattoo is not launched in US yet)
Different regions have different ranges (Refer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands)
As all are aware that 3G spectrum is not yet finalized in India, I feel that HTC did not take a risk of assuming a spectrum and releasing a 3G radio for it but instead played a safer way of removing the 3G radio from it. so when in the future when the frequency bands are finalized, chances are there for HTC to sell alone the 3G radios which can be inserted onto the Tattoo.
Any comments on my hypothesis are welcomed..
Ram
I think the 3G limitation is a software one, and not a hardware limitation. If you look at the model number for the Tattoo, A3232, it's the same for the Indian as well as other versions. So I'm assuming that the hardware is the same. So i hope that with the much rumoured Android 2.1 update to the Tattoo, 3G capability is brought back.
is the 3G service really a software based one???? now BSNL is offering 3G service in India. why cant we see their 3G service if we do network search then ????
what if we flash our ROM with European tattoo ROM, then shall we get the 3G icon on top of our main screen ??? as we have noticed that icon in youtube videos of tattoo being used in foreign countries???
i am curious to know the answer for this...... pls sheikh.....
TBH, I really don't know for sure if the European ROM will enable 3G. I'm only guessing that since the hardware is the same, the 3G service has been disabled in the Indian ROM.
BTW, yesterday, I played some YouTube videos using my EDGE internet service, and they worked just fine.
thanks for ur timely responses sheik.... i really appreciate that u have shared ur knowledge with us...... keep up the good work bro. i will again disturb u for more knowledge if the situation demands.... pls dont feel bad, ok?????
No problem!
more victims!!
very slyly HTC has released the much celebrated Tattoo, not once it was mentioned that this isnt same as the rest of the world. The tattoo sell for the same price in the UK..we arent exactly a very rich nation comparatively to get a stripped down product at the same price...the phone is awesome...but i really thought it had 3g, any calls to the HTC support comes back with the same response 'sorry to inform you.....' I sincerely hope the limitation is a s/w one!!! any android experts might be able to confirm.....
another victim!
It is really sad, I was also ignorant of this. I am waiting for 3g service at my area to test it.
hi guys, today when i was searching for some settings, i found out that htc tattoo indian version is 3G capable..... i have the proof also...
i will upload it for you those who dont believe in my words....
Wowy!
Please do so fasttt!!!! i am glad...i hope its true!
manuvaidya said:
hi guys, today when i was searching for some settings, i found out that htc tattoo indian version is 3G capable..... i have the proof also...
i will upload it for you those who dont believe in my words....
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Great news.. please do share your finding
go to settings> about phone> in that look for baseband version.... there 3G is mentioned.... i hope its the same which says that tattoo is 3G enabled...
did u get a chance to try it out?
Hey the baseband version goes like this
13.29.55.13G_etc...
the pessimist in me says it also looks like 13G....the specs on HTCs India website says its EDGE whereas the same specsheet for its UK website says its 3G/HSDPA....
I think the best way to do it is to pop a BSNL/MTNL card in it; which i tried doing although but given MTNLs history they might not have implemented 3G in the area I was trying it.
but you could have had checked with BSNL's 3G sim and should have trid it whether 3G works or not.....
moreover this EDGE what its displaying in our tattoo is network type which the operators are offering the technology of service for us.... once they get upgraded to 3G, then we can say it for sure that whether its 3G enabled or not....
anyway sorry for disappointing you guys.... i was also as enthusiastic as you were while buying & until i came to know about this news..... hope for the best.... if there is no 3G in tattoo...no worries.... always google nexus is there no..... cheapest one with all the features... we all here can get one piece for their own from our relatives / friends..... not a big deal right ?????
just chill guys... why to break our heads for this 3G ?????
Hi there,
Sorry if this is a super newb question but I am interested in buying an Evo and using it on AT&T network. Is this possible? If so, difficult? Are there serious drawbacks to doing this? I would appreciate any input.
Just get an Inspire 4G
No, it's not possible.
I would think not, since AT&T uses a SIM card, and to my knowledge, the EVO is only on sprint, which uses CDMA technology.
Cant happen. They have some decent phones coming out soon, I'd just wait.
Sprint uses esn locks so even if you have a cdma phone (such as from Verizon) you cannot move it to Sprint.
At&t uses GSM, like T-Mobile.
Thanks for all your input guys. That does change things. I was considering the inspire but really wanted a front facing camera to speak to relatives over seas on skype which should be coming out for android soon I hear. I am now considering the Motorola Atrix (due out tomorrow). It seems to have everything I am looking for. What do you guys think about it?
Get the atrix if your att
^^Agreed^^
Or you just could bite the bullet and get sprint like we all did....Buy your fone outright from craigslist or something and go month to month.
Please excuse me if this has been asked before; I'm a Droid guy and don't usually hang out in the Windows area.
I have to get a Windows 7 phone from Verizon for work, and the only thing they have available is the Trophy. I really want something that has 4G and tethering capability, so I don't think this phone is for me. Does anyone know if there is a new phone coming? Why is Verizon's W7 phone offering so limited?
Appreciate it.
Verizon has publicly stated that 4G will be a requirement for any future Windows phones. Microsoft has stated it is working on 4G for its next major operating system release. Unfortunately a large release like that probably isnt coming for another 3 months or more.
However the trophy does do teathering. I just made the jump from Android to the HTC trophy and I could not be happier, I suggest you do it. The simplicity and reliability of WP7 far outweigh not having 4G
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Verizon has publicly stated that 4G will be a requirement for any future Windows phones. Microsoft has stated it is working on 4G for its next major operating system release. Unfortunately a large release like that probably isnt coming for another 3 months or more.
However the trophy does do teathering. I just made the jump from Android to the HTC trophy and I could not be happier, I suggest you do it. The simplicity and reliability of WP7 far outweigh not having 4G
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Thank you for the response. The Windows phone is going to be replacing my BlackBerry, and an Etch-A-Sketch would be an upgrade from that POS!
I'm going to be working with a development team for WM7 apps and I need the phone to test functionality/usability. So you say the Trophy can tether - how do you get that set up? Our corporate Verizon support rep is the one that said it couldn't be done.
I'd like to know more about the ability to tether the Trophy as well!
Out of box, Verizon Trophy does not support tethering!
However, the SparkW (Verizon Trophy) was recently HSPL'ed, and DFT rom is in testing and supports tethering (where as the stock software does not support it).
Tethering works fantastic on the phone with this rom, and from my investigations, simply swapping the wireless driver from the GSM version should enable tethering (I think a few policy xml's have to carry over too.. I'm still tinkering).
If you get a Verizon Trophy, private message mwang for a link to the rom, and read my HOWTO guide on installing HSPL.
Hello, all i get in my atrix is a EDGE Network running on T-mobile. I know there is a hardware hack for us to disable the at&t block. I have herd of radios for t-mobile. Please help.
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Hello, all i get in my atrix is a EDGE Network running on T-mobile. I know there is a hardware hack for us to disable the at&t block. I have herd of radios for t-mobile. Please help.
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i dont live in US but as far as i have read T mobile and AT&T use different frequencies for 3g so you wouldnt get 3g on t mobile if you use AT&T phone
its a hardware thing and not something a software mod can do
T-mobile is refarming their network to be compatible with At&t 3g phones. They are mainly doing this to lure away Iphone users, but it should also benefit anyone using unlocked phones on T-mobile.
Here is a list of locations which are already live.
http://airportal.de/
4G LTE has finally rolled out in Brazil.
To start though they are using what they call a 4G LTE 2.5Ghz network until their 700 network comes on in another year (or two).
This network is finally available and if I am going to purchase a new S4, I want to make sure that this new S4 will work on their network. Currently the 3g I use gets (as per speedtest.net) download speeds of 0.25mbps and upload speeds the same 0.25mbps. Yes, absolutely horrible. I cannot watch and streaming video, my slingbox app, any TV whatsoever unless I am connected to wi-fi. Absolute crap (I am currently using my ATT Galaxy S3)
I have done my research, it seems the international version does not support 4g at all and that the ATT/T-Mobile specific phones, if unlocked, do not have the specific frequency of 2.5.
So, does anyone know of a specific S4 that does work with their network?
Here is a link to their site with the info I am talking about.
http://www.tim.com.br/rj/atendimento/perguntas-frequentes/cobertura-e-roaming/4g
its in Portuguese so I did a translation on the specific question/answer specifying what I am talking about.
5. Do I need to change the device to use 4G?
You need to know if your device is compatible with the 4G technology in Brazil, which is currently operated at the frequency 2.5 GHz. See our website to check the devices prepared to use the 4G connection.
Of course, their website does not have a list of devices! I called them, they had no clue to what I meant.
So, can anyone shed any light on this for me?
Anyone????
thanks.
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4G LTE has finally rolled out in Brazil.
To start though they are using what they call a 4G LTE 2.5Ghz network until their 700 network comes on in another year (or two).
This network is finally available and if I am going to purchase a new S4, I want to make sure that this new S4 will work on their network. Currently the 3g I use gets (as per speedtest.net) download speeds of 0.25mbps and upload speeds the same 0.25mbps. Yes, absolutely horrible. I cannot watch and streaming video, my slingbox app, any TV whatsoever unless I am connected to wi-fi. Absolute crap (I am currently using my ATT Galaxy S3)
I have done my research, it seems the international version does not support 4g at all and that the ATT/T-Mobile specific phones, if unlocked, do not have the specific frequency of 2.5.
So, does anyone know of a specific S4 that does work with their network?
Here is a link to their site with the info I am talking about.
http://www.tim.com.br/rj/atendimento/perguntas-frequentes/cobertura-e-roaming/4g
its in Portuguese so I did a translation on the specific question/answer specifying what I am talking about.
5. Do I need to change the device to use 4G?
You need to know if your device is compatible with the 4G technology in Brazil, which is currently operated at the frequency 2.5 GHz. See our website to check the devices prepared to use the 4G connection.
Of course, their website does not have a list of devices! I called them, they had no clue to what I meant.
So, can anyone shed any light on this for me?
Anyone????
thanks.
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anyone????
Please!!!!