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I currently am using a LeEco S3 with 3GB of RAM. I have decided to move on to a Moto G5 Plus since Best Buy has the pre-order deal with the $5 case. It ultimately comes down to how much I am spending. The 2GB version is $229. The 4GB version is $299. I don't want to cheap out yet at the same time I don't want to throw an extra hundred down and not notice a real difference multitasking wise. Would you say that the 2GB is good enough or am I better off spending the extra for the 4GB version? It sucks every review I've seen and read is specifically on the 4GB version.
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I currently am using a LeEco S3 with 3GB of RAM. I have decided to move on to a Moto G5 Plus since Best Buy has the pre-order deal with the $5 case. It ultimately comes down to how much I am spending. The 2GB version is $229. The 4GB version is $299. I don't want to cheap out yet at the same time I don't want to throw an extra hundred down and not notice a real difference multitasking wise. Would you say that the 2GB is good enough or am I better off spending the extra for the 4GB version? It sucks every review I've seen and read is specifically on the 4GB version.
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2 GB is okay but your system would be using like 1.9 GB on an average.With upgrades to O more ram is likely going to be required.So it's better to go with 4 GB variant than have a lagging phone after updates.
I am a g4+ user with 3 GB RAM.
Lol I just did the same thing! Returned the S3 for the g5 plus 64gb. The S3 has weird lag even though it's processor is "better" so glad I switch cause this thing flies! Depends on your app usage but the 4gb model is necessary for heavy users and gamers! Casual use then go for the 2gb.
That's funny. I was wondering this but I already ordered the 2 GB one lol. That's me second-guessing myself. Currently using a Nexus 6 with a busted antenna(?).
Hi,
This is my oppion: 2GB of RAM is a joke from Motorola/Lenovo. Forget completly any Android 7 phone with less than 3GB of RAM!
I suffer a 2GB Moto G4 (not plus) for a year with only 2GB or RAM... just a constant lag.
2gb is too slow
I have brazilian version of Moto G5 Plus and for me until now is excellent 2 Gb of RAM
I have the 2GB version and for me it is more than enough. At most I have 3 or 4 apps going and I don't game on my phone. The most I'll tax it is using navigation with a podcast going or making a phone call. But if you're a heavier user then yeah the 4GB would be a better bet.
2 gb is plenty. It works great!
If you look around there are A LOT if articles out there explaining why anything over 2gb is pretty much useless.
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Developers surely are not targeting over 2GB yet as the vast majority of phones in use are 2GB or less. Maybe if you wanna switch between apps much, have a lot of web tabs open, etc, you will see benefit from more than 2GB? I bought 4GB RAM version because I want to be able to keep the phone for about 3 years, and I already had as my previous phone the OnePlus One, which needed to be replaced as I had used it for 3 years and the edges were starting to crack, battery is old, etc. I didn't want to DOWNGRADE to LESS RAM (not so logical reason, just I didn't feel like my new phone after three years should have less RAM than my old one).
I think I'd be happy with 2GB RAM phone. I kind of wish it had NFC because I think I'd like to be able to use Android Pay (though I never did actually use it when I had OnePlus One for 3 years?!!). I remember forgetting my wallet one time I went out and thinking how nice if I could pay with my phone, which I wouldn't forget.
To go big at the onset will cost you $70. Unless you wait until the phone's price gets under $70 it'll be an expensive upgrade later.
My phone, with four gigs, frequently runs with 1.8 to 2 gigs in use.
Plus the extra onboard storage that comes with the 4gig model is kinda sweet.
I'm not a big spender but the jump to the 300 model was easy for me to justify without me feeling like I was lying to myself as to why I wanted more.
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I currently am using a LeEco S3 with 3GB of RAM. I have decided to move on to a Moto G5 Plus since Best Buy has the pre-order deal with the $5 case. It ultimately comes down to how much I am spending. The 2GB version is $229. The 4GB version is $299. I don't want to cheap out yet at the same time I don't want to throw an extra hundred down and not notice a real difference multitasking wise. Would you say that the 2GB is good enough or am I better off spending the extra for the 4GB version? It sucks every review I've seen and read is specifically on the 4GB version.
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Go with the 4gb varient, you won't regret. [emoji4]
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Remember those e-machines that have the sticker saying "This machine is never obselete?" Yeah, you know how that turned out. You don't want your phone to be an e-machine saying that. I exchanged my 2GB model for a 4GB model simply because I am a heavy user, I had a lot of reloading apps in multitasking; no regrets there on upgrading. It depends, though: unless you're a heavy user like me (games, mulit window, chrome, youtube, ect memory hungry apps) you won't see a major difference. Still, more is better, and choosing the 4GB of memory over the 2GB would be future proofing for updates, such as the upcoming Android O and Android 7.1 (that is if Lenovo doesn't drop us like it dropped the 2015 Moto G). In general, with more RAM, more apps can stay open, and games, if you play them, will run just a bit better if they are memory heavy. You won't notice anything if an app opens right where you left it, but you will notice if it reloads on you. Nevertheless, even standard issued apps like Chrome and YouTube use a lot of memory. I'd say shoot for the 4GB RAM and 64GB Storage. It's better for the long run, and really you'll want it soon enough.
tl;dr it depends, but futureproofing is a good idea.
Defiantly go for the 4gb variant.
Depends on your usage. I tend to use 2-3 apps at a time and close them regularly. Besides, I don't use the phone for gaming.
If you plan on keeping tons of apps in memory and expect them to be there after 2 hours, yeah, 4GB is the way to go.
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Depends on your usage. I tend to use 2-3 apps at a time and close them regularly. Besides, I don't use the phone for gaming.
If you plan on keeping tons of apps in memory and expect them to be there after 2 hours, yeah, 4GB is the way to go.
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2GB of RAM is just dandy for any smartphone application. Even games.
There are a few reasons you find more memory on phones; some good, some not-so-much.
RAM is Cheap. Really cheap these days. In the days of 32-bit CPUs, there was no practical value to offering more than 3GB RAM, like my Samsung Note Pro 12.2 tablet here. But with 64-bit processors, 4GB is a few bucks more than 2GB. Naturally, manufacturers don’t want you to know this. After all, even if it’s $2.00 a phone, if you’re Apple, that’s $200 million extra profit in a year.
Marketing Wars. Consumers are a simple people.. they don’t really know how stuff works. So basic numbers sell. A 4GB phone just sounds like twice as much as a 2GB phone. A 20Mpixel camera sounds so much better than a 12Mpixel camera — even though the top phone cameras right now are 12Mpixel cameras (the iPhone 7 is also a 12Mpixel camera, but not on the top, its sensor is too small).
Multitasking. The rule of thumb for Windows, at least, used to be 2GB per CPU core. Which means my PC here ought to have at least 12GB. I have 64GB… no problem. But if you extend this to Smartphones, pretty much no one has 2GB per core (and yeah, there are 8 core Smartphone chips, but most of those are big.LITTLE designs, they only normally use four cores at once). Neither Android nor iOS are as memory-hungry as Windows, and we’re not running a full Photoshop or Altium (my EE CAD software) or AutoPano Giga (the reason I have 64GB on my desktop). A typical Android application can ask for up to 48MB of RAM, no more. But there’s a special way to ask for hundreds of MB of RAM (considered impolite), and native apps can make Linux calls and get all they want. And you can actually have them all runinng at the same time. So if you’re a power user, you may want more than 2GB. But it’s not one app, it’s having a faster system with everything running.
High Density Screens. When I had a smartphone with 256MB RAM, I also had a 640x480 screen. My LG V10 today has 4GB RAM, but it’s also got a 2560x1600 screen. So does a 13x increase in screen resolution need a 16x increase in memory? Not exactly. On Android, your apps have to deal with all kinds of different phones, and most apps don’t need to directly interface with allocating screen bitmaps or anything, any more than a web browser does. But iOS is based on pixels and bitmaps, and also, there were very few models. So every software compamy knew exactly what resource they had. Then the iPhone 6 Plus came out, with the same 1GB as all sorts of other Apple phones. Only, the screen was 1920x1080 resolution. And all screen drawing was actually done in 1242 2208x1242 and then downscaled to 1920x1080. Bottom line: the overhead too enough extra memory over any other 1GB iPhone that some things just broke. Which is why they put 2GB into the iPhone 7.
So if you’re an iPhone user, your only choice is 2GB today in a new model. That’s exactly the right amount, since the memory size will drive software development. And you don’t have the option for more, anyway. For Android, 2GB is a good amount for 2017. I’m not really convinced I need more than that. Then again, I haven’t used up half of the 64GB internal flash on my V10, and the 256GB microSD card is mostly full of photos and music. Not critical, but nice to have.
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2GB of RAM is just dandy for any smartphone application. Even games.
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This is true, any app from the Play Store will run just fine even with 1GB of ram.
But what I was talking about was the fact that most people just leave a ton of apps open and expect them to be that way for long periods of time without redrawing the entire app again.
If you leave open2 games, chrome, whatsapp, messenger spotify, play store, gmail, outlook, evernote, etc... and expect every single of them to be open, you're gonna have a hard time with just 2GB of ram.
That's why 4GB of ram is necessary.
I do not open more than 4-5 apps at a time and tend to close them right after I'm done with them, so 2GB is plenty, even for future versions of Android (if we trust that they will maintain the same line of work for future versions).
Hey guys,
I've come to the conclusion that my nexus 6p is no longer a satisfying phone so I've decided to upgrade to the oneplus 5. My question is, is there a significant difference between the 6gb and the 8gb versions, I'm fine with 64gb of storage so that's not the issue.
I'm asking because the difference in price is pretty big with the 8gb version costs almost as much as the s8.
Thanks.
Guitararts said:
Hey guys,
I've come to the conclusion that my nexus 6p is no longer a satisfying phone so I've decided to upgrade to the oneplus 5. My question is, is there a significant difference between the 6gb and the 8gb versions, I'm fine with 64gb of storage so that's not the issue.
I'm asking because the difference in price is pretty big with the 8gb version costs almost as much as the s8.
Thanks.
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I'm a heavy user (150 apps, 30 services running at all time) and I've never seen memory usage go over 4.5 GB.
The rest of the RAM is not idle though, is used to cache the flash memory (data, etc).
In the UK there is a £50 difference between the 2 models. To me, for 2gb of extra ram and double the storage, it is most definitely worth it! Unless you really want a gold one, in which case they only come in the cheaper option.
If it were me, I'd go for the better spec model.
In the US the difference is of $50 USD between OP5 versions, being the OP5 128gb version $530 USD, while the Samsung Galaxy S8 is $650 USD.
I bought the 128gb version thinking in not changing my phone in the next 4 years (who knows what kind of memory-consuming apps we will have in the future). To be honest, I am not even close to using 64gb of my 128gb OP5 internal memory, but 2 extra gb of RAM and double capacity seem like a good deal for the price difference.
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In the US the difference is of $50 USD between OP5 versions, being the OP5 128gb version $530 USD, while the Samsung Galaxy S8 is $650 USD.
I bought the 128gb version thinking in not changing my phone in the next 4 years (who knows what kind of memory-consuming apps we will have in the future). To be honest, I am not even close to using 64gb of my 128gb OP5 internal memory, but 2 extra gb of RAM and double capacity seem like a good deal for the price difference.
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Where I'm from the difference is over 100$, where 8gb version is about 665$, for comparison the s8+ is 780$.
I'm a heavy user, and my RAM usually caps around 4.9GB used. That's about 82% capacity if I had only 6GB. I don't like being that close to full. Who knows what types of demands Android 8 and 9 will put on the phone in the future.
But today, 6GB is the "appropriate" amount for a flagship. 4GB is not enough.
Guitararts said:
Hey guys,
I've come to the conclusion that my nexus 6p is no longer a satisfying phone so I've decided to upgrade to the oneplus 5. My question is, is there a significant difference between the 6gb and the 8gb versions, I'm fine with 64gb of storage so that's not the issue.
I'm asking because the difference in price is pretty big with the 8gb version costs almost as much as the s8.
Thanks.
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They have a promotion going on right now where you by the 128GB and get a free pair of headphones, and if you have the student discount you can get the 128GB + Bullets V2 for $485 shipped.
I like having a lot of storage and 64GB definitely wouldn't cut it but the 8GB of ram is a marketing gimmick. No smartphone needs that much ram. People who are talking about the large amount of ram their phone is using don't understand how ram actually works. Android manages ram automatically like a computer does--if you have a lot of ram Android is going to try and use it and will keep more stuff in memory --but that's not the same as actually needing all that ram. There have been tests on the performance difference between the 6GB and 8GB models and they found that any difference between the two was negligible at best.
I do agree with the comment above me, that's just a marketing. If you don't need the storage rom, and don't want to take a phone because a colour you preferred, just save money.
I have bought the higher version for the same reason as comment here, for better spec, colour, and not too much money for me. BUT, anyway I bought a case for slippery issue that is cover the colour so.. here is the answer
if you need money or you consider 50 for something, go for cheaper version
if 50 bugs is nothing more than something go for .. you can boast with you RAM and your colour in front of your friends.... and here
Are you choosing the 6gb version or the 8gb version? Why? Any comparisons, reviews, or compelling reasons?
I purchased the 8Gb version this morning, just because. Only $50.00 and 2Gb extra couldn't hurt.
I fully believe the 6gb would have been perfect, but at the cost difference, spread over length of time I will own the phone, why cheap out. So I went 8gb.
6GB ram/128gb storage. I honestly believe any more than 6gb ram at this time is a waste.
I was watching a comparison of the 6gb and 8gb version againts the Huwei Mate 20 Pro and the honestly in everyday applications you wouldn't be able to ABSOLUTELY see the difference....I went with the Tmo version and have been playing with all morning and this thing is FAST!!
6GB.
8GB model is only useful for those who want the midnight black model. The actual increase of 2GB is completely pointless and will never be used by the OS unless you plan on playing Pokemon GO, PUBG, Fortnite, simultaneously whilst also navigating in Google Maps with 50 Chrome tabs open.
I just wanted Midnight Black so I went 8/128. The 8gb of ram is probably over kill for android. I do not need 256.
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Jizzay1 said:
Are you choosing the 6gb version or the 8gb version? Why? Any comparisons, reviews, or compelling reasons?
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Comparisons?
8 is more than 6
Since the 256GB version only comes with 8GB RAM.
Yep, I bought the storage, not the RAM, when I went 256.
What would be the best components to upgrade on my setup
Intel Core i5-8400
8GB RAM
1TB HDD
4GB Intel Optane
Nvidia GTX 1050
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What would be the best components to upgrade on my setup
Intel Core i5-8400
8GB RAM
1TB HDD
4GB Intel Optane
Nvidia GTX 1050
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Hello,
that depends on what you want to do with your PC. The mainboard is the base and limiter for all other components except the power supply(in most cases).
Well, i only have a acer pre-built the motherboard is acers....
I want to use it for video rendering or gaming
It can run pretty much anything I think I've seen people upgrade it to an rtx and stuff
@Kenora_I if it was me, and I just did this upgrade 2 weeks ago and am loving it, If your 1tb of storage isn't a Nvme/M.2 I would do that. I had a 2.5 in sata had and for $80 on Newegg I got a WD 1TB sata m.2 and it's night and day difference. Boots in like 15 secs, instant response when multitasking etc. And I just use PC for everything but gaming. So coding/compiling is a mind blown difference lol
If I was you I would start saving for a new built to be honest, aim for a B550/B550M with a Ryzen 5600X for example. Video rendering and gaming will soon become a stretch on that system if it isn't already.
Assuming the power supply is non standard and not easily upgraded, the only real bottleneck that can be remedied is storage. Agree an M2 ssd would be best upgrade likely available.
CamoGeko said:
If I was you I would start saving for a new built to be honest, aim for a B550/B550M with a Ryzen 5600X for example. Video rendering and gaming will soon become a stretch on that system if it isn't already.
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I have the money, but I just hate the price inflation due to the chip shortages.
Dont wanna end up like one of those people with less RAM performance that LTT demonstrated in one of his vids
Kenora_I said:
I have the money, but I just hate the price inflation due to the chip shortages.
Dont wanna end up like one of those people with less RAM performance that LTT demonstrated in one of his vids
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I would build new since you have several things that could use an upgrade in the next year or two. Adding upgrades to an older oem board is just money you will never recover for an end result of a PC still in need of a mobo upgrade.
Building new doesn't have to be that expensive nor does it have to be overpriced ryzen. I threw together an example here . Room to expand RAM by 2 slots later if needed. Less than $600 bucks and could use your GTX 1050 until you get an email that it's your turn to buy card at MSRP.
EVGA's notify list works, may take 2 or 3 months but you can get a card at MSRP.
In my opinion it would be best to wait until prices falls down to regular prices.
But you may consider getting SSD and HDD as you've mentioned you would be playing games and 1TB isn't sufficient.
You can look for case or better case fan if needed.
Mechanical keyboard and Mouse can be consider too.
You haven't mentioned about the PSU you may also consider that if you are looking forward to getting power hungry GPU in future.
Get a cooler if needed if prices are fair enough for it. (if you get one then get one where you don't have to buy one if you choose to upgrade to latest CPU.
In my opinion this are some possible upgrade you can make with your currant build.
If in case you choose to make new build in future then don't upgrade anything in this build presuming that you don't have any issue with currant build and your build gets job done.
In short upgrade if needed or just don't upgrade besides storage.
tek3195 said:
EVGA's notify list works, may take 2 or 3 months but you can get a card at MSRP.
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I have been on the EVGA list since beginning of the year, the only email I got from them was to tell me they're swapping the model I actually wanted to a low hash model. Thanks EVGA, how about you just make me a GPU. It's been 6 months.
CamoGeko said:
I have been on the EVGA list since beginning of the year, the only email I got from them was to tell me they're swapping the model I actually wanted to a low hash model. Thanks EVGA, how about you just make me a GPU. It's been 6 months.
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Must depend on model. I signed up in Feb. and didn't have the money when 1660 ti came up, resubmitted for 1660 super and got it a couple of weeks ago. It's gotta be model, location shouldn't matter I wouldn't think. I don't know how they do it, but 6 months sucks.
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I have been on the EVGA list since beginning of the year, the only email I got from them was to tell me they're swapping the model I actually wanted to a low hash model. Thanks EVGA, how about you just make me a GPU. It's been 6 months.
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lol
ohjabarn said:
Tempted to upgrade my 2080 ti to a gigabyte 3080 ti so got it from NEWEGG however not certain my PSU would be adequate. PSU and everything (I imagine) that draws power are recorded underneath:
1 x Seasonic Focus Plus 750W 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply
1 x Intel Core i9-9900K 3.6GHz (Coffee Lake) Socket LGA1151 Processor
1 x Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Elite Intel Z390 (Socket 1151) DDR4 ATX Motherboard
1 x Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C16 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit
1 x Samsung 2TB 860 EVO SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps 64 Layer 3D V-NAND Solid State Drive
6 x Corsair ML120 Pro RGB 120mm Premium Fan with Lighting Node
1 x Be Quiet Dark Rock Pro 4 air cooler
Cheers generally functioning admirably.
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You should be good, 750W is what EVGA Power Meter recommends for the components you listed. There are quite a few power supply calculators available online.
So, it really depends on what you want to do with your PC. Do you want to make your PC more suitable for gaming or work? As an example, I use editing software from Movavi and it requires a lot of good components such as SSD, high-end processor and of course a lot of RAM. From my point of view, you need to change your HDD to SSD and add more RAM, so you'll have a very powerful machine.
Now would be the time to start looking at things as prices are falling.
Hello everyone!
First of all thanks to those who read and / or respond and sorry for my English.
I'm thinking of building a build with a budget around €450\€500.
The use that I will make of this pc is relatively basic, casual game without big pretensions, surfing the web, streaming, watching videos, music, modding with the phone and the like, but I would like a good pc, which at least as long as my current one, 14 years old, (that's why it's time to retire that acer intel 2 duo).
Let's get down to business, the configuration I thought of (after hours of research and pricing) is this.
{For the moment without a dedicated video card because otherwise I have to sell a kidney ...}
MOBO:
ASUS TUF GAMING B560M-PLUS WIFI LGA 1200;
CPU:
IINTEL i3 10320 or 10100;
RAM:
G.SKILL RIPJAWS V DDR4 3200 MHZ 8GB (2X4GB) CL16;
SSD:
SAMSUNG 980 M.2 250 GB PCI EXPRESS 3.0 V-NAND NVME;
PSU:
EVGA 450 80+ BRONZE 450W
CASE:
AEROCOOL BIONIC -G-BK-V2;
in addition I also have 4 hhd sata, 320gb, 250gb, 160gb and 120gb, which I will replace later with a 500gb or 1tb hdd or ssd.
This is my starting point while staying in a budget of 480 €, which I would later like to enrich with a new hdd \ ssd, dedicated video card, and maybe 2 more ram banks. I chose this motherboard because I trust asus and then in a more distant future I can replace the cpu with an 11th generation one.
What do you think?
Advice?
some advice
for cpu: i have no comment/advice. assuming you already know the 10100 have integrated gpu and also comes with cooler
for mobo: do you have router/modem installed in your house (direct lan connection pc to router). if you do have, you dont need extra wifi module for your mobo, go for non wifi version instead or asus prime b560m (if its cheaper)
for ram/case: if you're fine with second hand ram/case, try looking that instead (ram with 2x8GB), it might be cheaper buying second hand ram/case than buying brand new.
for psu: dont cheap out your psu, if you're planning for upgrade adding gpu later its best to have good quality psu first. do your research, if you dont have money still, you can search for second hand good quality PSU atleast 500w 80+ bronze is minimum for rtx 30 /rx 6000 (evga br/bq, corsair, coolermaster, be quiet, fractal)
storage: samsung 980 is good ssd, but 256gb is not enough. i dont recommend you buying second hand ssd, there is still cheap but good ssd 2.5 inch sata
for the laptop itself: upgrading ram, upgrading to 2.5inch ssd, and install linux just for fun might a good idea, or just be a backup in case there is trouble with your new pc
hope it help you
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@Animalizers hi!
Thanks for reading and replying and for the good advice.
For the cpu I'm opting for the 10320 because I find it almost at the same price as the 10100, it seems a minimum more performing.
Yes, I know that it has the integrated gpu, so for the moment I can use the pc without having to take a dedicated graphics.
For the mobo I have seen that with b560m (prime or others) without wifi it costs less, however, having a router a bit far from where I will mainly go to put the pc (I will use a smart TV as a monitor) the cable connection would be cumbersome for daily use, is the reason why the wifi module is more convenient.
For the ram \ case \ psu I prefer the new one because I find the ram at 43 € \ + -50 $, the case at the same price as the ram and the psu the same.
I don't know how much I could save with the used one, but at that price it is definitely better to have a 2 or more year warranty.
Always for the ram I am undecided on the frequency, because I have read that the 10100 \ 10320 supports a maximum of 2666mhz and perhaps with the xmp profiles I can not make them work at 3200mhz, even if in anticipation of a cpu upgrade it is better to have them already at 3200 too if for the moment they will work without.
For the psu and the ssd you are right, in anticipation of a future upgrade, it is better to have a 500 \ 550w psu and a minimum of 500gb ssd, even if I intend to install only the so and some programs, then for the rest of the data use the other hhd's and keep the ssd as clean as possible.
For the laptop I have already increased the ram (recycled from another broken one) to 4gb, but the system can only manage 3 and 1 for the hardware, only that many programs I use do not run with linux so I am forced to use it with that boulder of win10 (I really care, it was my first pc ) in fact I thought I would immediately take an SSD to then transfer to the new one, I will definitely keep it as a spare, as I keep another desktop assembled by me with recycled pieces from other computers but he too is very obsolete mounts an amd athton 64x2, also 3gb ram and with linux it is pretty good.
now I would really like to have something of the new generation, as I said before I have been standing still for 14 years with my Acer but now it is very tried, look at these photos
I bought optiplex 990 renewed version from Amazon at just 180 pounds. It has i7 processor, 16gb ram, 250gb ssd + 1tb HDD, Windows 10 pro OEM installed.
Only down side is, it has only integrated intel graphics 2000HD. But if you purchase Nvida gt1030 low profile grafics card for another 80 pounds, will easily fit in to the rig...
@manurahim hi!
hi! I have seen the refurbished of amazon and for those prices they are apeatable offers.
However, as I said before, my maximum budget is 500 euros which would be more or less 428 pounds or 580 dollars, my intent is to assemble a pc with a penultimate or last generation configuration, therefore trying to avoid pre-assembled or reconditioned \ regenerated.
In those I have seen on Amazon are mounted i5 \ i7 second, third or maximum fourth generation, this means that they are cpu of 2011 \ 2012 and are almost the age of my acer.
Note that an i7 2xxx or 3xxx has the same features as an i3 10xxx, only it is a newer (2020) cpu and is on the win11 compatible cpu list.
I would like to assemble it myself because I like to do it and then with a good research and a little patience you can save something compared to a pre-assembled configuration
Oh. Ok.
RollDload said:
@Animalizers hi!
Thanks for reading and replying and for the good advice.
For the cpu I'm opting for the 10320 because I find it almost at the same price as the 10100, it seems a minimum more performing.
Yes, I know that it has the integrated gpu, so for the moment I can use the pc without having to take a dedicated graphics.
For the mobo I have seen that with b560m (prime or others) without wifi it costs less, however, having a router a bit far from where I will mainly go to put the pc (I will use a smart TV as a monitor) the cable connection would be cumbersome for daily use, is the reason why the wifi module is more convenient.
For the ram \ case \ psu I prefer the new one because I find the ram at 43 € \ + -50 $, the case at the same price as the ram and the psu the same.
I don't know how much I could save with the used one, but at that price it is definitely better to have a 2 or more year warranty.
Always for the ram I am undecided on the frequency, because I have read that the 10100 \ 10320 supports a maximum of 2666mhz and perhaps with the xmp profiles I can not make them work at 3200mhz, even if in anticipation of a cpu upgrade it is better to have them already at 3200 too if for the moment they will work without.
For the psu and the ssd you are right, in anticipation of a future upgrade, it is better to have a 500 \ 550w psu and a minimum of 500gb ssd, even if I intend to install only the so and some programs, then for the rest of the data use the other hhd's and keep the ssd as clean as possible.
For the laptop I have already increased the ram (recycled from another broken one) to 4gb, but the system can only manage 3 and 1 for the hardware, only that many programs I use do not run with linux so I am forced to use it with that boulder of win10 (I really care, it was my first pc ) in fact I thought I would immediately take an SSD to then transfer to the new one, I will definitely keep it as a spare, as I keep another desktop assembled by me with recycled pieces from other computers but he too is very obsolete mounts an amd athton 64x2, also 3gb ram and with linux it is pretty good.
now I would really like to have something of the new generation, as I said before I have been standing still for 14 years with my Acer but now it is very tried, look at these photos
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Why not just do the core i5 10400, or 10400f ? I mean there's a maybe $60 difference, and performance is right nice for the price. Same with mobo, go a z490 or z590 and give some future upgrades. I just ordered a msi z590A pro and a 10600k for $399
WillisD said:
Why not just do the core i5 10400, or 10400f ? I mean there's a maybe $60 difference, and performance is right nice for the price. Same with mobo, go a z490 or z590 and give some future upgrades. I just ordered a msi z590A pro and a 10600k for $399
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i looked and with that extra $ 60 i go over budget, surely the performance with that cpu and motherboard is better, but with 390 $ I get the b560 (with wifi which for me is very useful even if I lose some features with a less expensive chipset) the 10320 and the ram
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i looked and with that extra $ 60 i go over budget, surely the performance with that cpu and motherboard is better, but with 390 $ I get the b560 (with wifi which for me is very useful even if I lose some features with a less expensive chipset) the 10320 and the ram
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Look for local listings, facebook marketplace, amazon, get it used for even cheaper