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Good morning.
I am new to the world of the HTC and I have a question.
When that version will be available for NAND?
What is the best version of Android?
I am impatient. Thank you
Sorry for my language, I'm french.
fred89 said:
Good morning.
I am new to the world of the HTC and I have a question.
When that version will be available for NAND?
What is the best version of Android?
I am impatient. Thank you
Sorry for my language, I'm french.
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Maybe will be available in September, maybe not.
Use search function will be more helpful.
remember use the michyprima's zimage, it pushs my quadrant score to 1817
fred89 said:
Good morning.
I am new to the world of the HTC and I have a question.
When that version will be available for NAND?
What is the best version of Android?
I am impatient. Thank you
Sorry for my language, I'm french.
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Good things come to those, who wait. ;-)
B.R.
d3m0n
JJbdoggg said:
how exactly do you know that? any proof?
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my mistacke...by overclocking each HW component works much more stable and cooler. I hear temperature is 10 c lower when you overclock hd2
i see your point but there are hundreds of people are using the oc'ed kernel in shubcrafts build yet ive seen VERY few complaints
p.s.
Everyone! i have suceeded in making teh androids run on teh nands the link is -***MOD EDIT- Link removed: Extremely obscene material.Immediate ban placed on this user account***
Problems ? i have E8400 Oc to 4.0 ghz for every day. its 100 % stable with custom cooling .
Thats does not change the fact he is runing much more hotter and more IMPORTANT his life span is reduced very much.
hd2 cpu OC'ed that much with no cooling at all can cause great deal of hw problems in long therm. be sure in that.
11cal cal i know oure problem,it ia because we are waiting for a new shui8 android build......we need some sleep lol...btw,i do not want a nand version,i want a nas version with network share so i can run android remotely haha..
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ognjeniHD said:
and melts down your hd2 cpu ...dough
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let me also say that overclock is optional. there are optimizations (code is optimized for armv7-a architecture, and other optimizations), but overclock is not enabled by default. w/ my kernel mhz range is 245-998.
Also CPU is downvolted so that means minor battery usage and higher cpu life due to minor voltage.
So why are you saying something that's not true?
@JJbdoggg
@michyprima you are talking about builds ( which only have OC option enabled ) and im talking about alrady Oc'ed devices with such builds
most builds do not have it enabled by default. atleast none that Ive tested. The kernal gives the ability to do it but it isnt set till setcpu is used.
My co-worker has been running his droid fulltime overclocked and has had no problems. I highly doubt any overclocking of phones is that extreme.
If the life span of your desktop cpu is reduced then you are either one applying to much voltage or two using not enough cooling.
Heres more info just to clarify.
http://www.overclockers.com/overclockings-impact-on-cpu-life/
i see i will have to explain some facts about overcloking so everybody understand, so we stop talking nonsense.
Each CPU have its own lifetime , some of earlyer Intel sockets had its lifetime of about 100 000 work hours.
Each time you give CPU more voltage, more than he is supposed to have, he is producing more temperature which offcourse lower his lifetime by certain amount of work hours compared to planed lifetime.
You all talk some nonsense, how some of your friends uses OC HW or phones few weeks or months. if you had time to read my post precisely, you could noticed i said in long therm.
Back again to OC..using custom cooling will only make cpu stable, will not restart or overhear due to over -voltage.
and there is many more factors that is making slighty different situation in hd2 cpu compared to pc...
Negative side is that there is no cooling..only positive side is that hd2 cpu is most of time working on 200-400 mhz depending on the thing you are doing on your phone at the time.
but be sure when you use his full potential, like in multimedia (gaming, playing video ...) in that OC condition, in long therm you are risking to cause HW problems on your phone because of over voltage -missing any kind of cooling that OC 'ed cpu.
my last msg about this.
Cheers
I guess he didnt read my exact post detailing the negative effects and how to determine them... I guess its nonsense even though its factual.
hey folks,
I would like to know what is the maximum stable overclock possibe for zte blade.
Im using cm7 nightlies and the max overclock frequency i can see is 864MHz. But my device will be stable only upto 691MHz or 710MHz.
What is your blade's max stable overclock.?
I heard some other android devices can be overclocked to their maximum value and remain stable at that value. What about ZTE blade. I think blade gets a lot of performance if it reaches stable at 864MHz. I don't bother the battery life or overheating really.
Is there any hack or something like that.?
672 max stable for me, my old one did 748. depends on your phone.
Has anybody had it over 800 stable?
wbaw said:
672 max stable for me, my old one did 748. depends on your phone.
Has anybody had it over 800 stable?
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once i used the userspace governor and got it to 806mhz and it was absolutely stable.
saaransh9 said:
once i used the userspace governor and got it to 806mhz and it was absolutely stable.
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I think it doesn't really change the speed with that governor, it's designed so you use a program to set the speed yourself, except none exist, I assume it doesn't work at all without it. It needs something to write the desired speed to a system device, if nothing does that then it'll just stay at the same speed.
Test new speeds with performance governor, that keeps the cpu at it's maximum speed, it's not ideal for battery life but you can see if it really is stable at that speed.
I got my blade to 806 mhz, too. I stress tested it with setCPU, and it was stable.
I didn't have the guts to test higher than 806, though.
and I don't leave my phone on overclock.
cowscrubber said:
I got my blade to 806 mhz, too. I stress tested it with setCPU, and it was stable.
I didn't have the guts to test higher than 806, though.
and I don't leave my phone on overclock.
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Just make sure that it isn't set to overclock on boot when you're testing higher speeds. Then the worst that can happen is it crashes & you know it doesn't work. Needs to be done in the name of science, so I know if it's worth enabling 864mhz & above in my kernels, or if nobody can ever get that high.
Nobody has managed to overvolt our cpu (msm7227) yet, I checked Google, it's probably not realistic to hope for it. I'm not sure it's possible at all. So whatever the maximum stable speed for your phone is, you're stuck with it, it'll never get any faster.
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Just make sure that it isn't set to overclock on boot when you're testing higher speeds. Then the worst that can happen is it crashes & you know it doesn't work. Needs to be done in the name of science, so I know if it's worth enabling 864mhz & above in my kernels, or if nobody can ever get that high.
Nobody has managed to overvolt our cpu (msm7227) yet, I checked Google, it's probably not realistic to hope for it. I'm not sure it's possible at all. So whatever the maximum stable speed for your phone is, you're stuck with it, it'll never get any faster.
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i dont think then galaxy 3 1ghz is possible that someone was talking about without overvolting
My blade can go to 748, over its reboot after 10min at performance governor
saaransh9 said:
i dont think then galaxy 3 1ghz is possible that someone was talking about without overvolting
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Idk, but my brother have a galaxy 3 and it's satble at 1.3Ghz..., when you read thread about kernel there is no OV
Send from my awsome ZTE Blade!
saaransh9 said:
i dont think then galaxy 3 1ghz is possible that someone was talking about without overvolting
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It's a totally different cpu to the blade. I could add an option to make your phone run at 1ghz if you want, but it'll just crash straight away, the samsung has a faster & different cpu. We'd need more volts to even attempt it.
Your phone will never run faster than 710mhz stable, if that's what you can get. There is no possible way, other than buying a different phone, to make it run any faster.
I'm still interested to see if anybody can actually run their phone at 864mhz without it crashing, for those few people, they might be able to go faster.
@wbaw , thanks for the info.
Surprised to hear that no one attempted to overvolt msm7227 . I feel it is still a great cpu with adreno 200 included and many current low end phones are having it.
i can get 748 on performance i had it for about half an hour with no reboots
I saw on Antutu benchmark that some people got their blades to 1.5 ghz.
It's probably a hoax.
cowscrubber said:
I saw on Antutu benchmark that some people got their blades to 1.5 ghz.
It's probably a hoax.
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Yeah, had see some with 3000 points, but its a build prop hack or somethings like this
Send from my awsome ZTE Blade!
Hm... The highest CPU rate without crashing was 710 Mhz for my Blade. Any higher values causes a unstable work or just rebooting.
My blade can handle 748 with sd writing but without 806 (but if you write to sd it crashes)
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My blade have 710Mhz as most stable overclock, if i try 748Mhz Blade freeze.
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729MHz is stable. 748MHz used to freeze sometimes.
729 Mhz with SmartAssV2 & CM7.
748 is stable with Performance governor for me,even on reboot. Haven't tried 768 and above.
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My device runs at 748M and stable, but crash if faster.
So I want to OC my phone a bit.
That's my only gripe with this device, that it's a tad bit slow - I think due to the high resolution.
Back in the past I used OC on my Note 2 and S3, and both became blazing fast.
I realize you cannot push a chip on 2,2ghz all day long.
But that extra boost is extra handy when you do need the speed.
I checked out the kernel forum of course, but I only found a GPU OC kernel, and one kernel with only a 2.0ghz OC.
That's only 0.1 ghz increment, that ain't not much.
Ps.: I realize that not every chip is the same. They all have different undervolting/overclocking capabilities, it's silicon lottery. But I do want to see if I could push my Note 4 a bit. And heck, it will throttle anyway if things get a bit hot.
And of course another post about someone wanting to control their cpu and nobody on these forums gives you an answer, I have been trying to look for solutions and kernals that offer cpu overclocking to atleast 3000mhz like how cm13 is, The problem is I dont like the ui of cm13 and want to use rooted jasmine which is based on stock 6.0.1 , but the cpu on apps only lets me clock it to 2649mhz and it doesnt let me set frequencies at all sometimes, it seems nobody knows or cares to tell anyone if their roms support cpu tuning or not, its sad and annoying because people seem to get their useless questions answered and not issues of this kind which are why some people even decided to root in the first place, like me.
Did u checked the Nemesis and Refined ROM threads from the exynos forum? There you can find what you want.
Here you can find and learn if you have a time and will to know and learn every possible things about Cpu ,setting up Cpu ,frequency and other stuff:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/ref-to-date-guide-cpu-governors-o-t3048957/page89
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guide-advanced-interactive-governor-t3290605
Hi there,
I'm really loving xda for years cause the active community here (depending on the device) and love to overclock my phone.
Through the years I've oc'ed it all starting with my HTC legend.
I know that it isn't just adding some freqs and voltages to make this happen, but I don't understand why (kernel)makers don't oc the S8. For example, I see som kernel developers build kernels with oc/uc and voltage control for the S7 (exynos). Some of those developers now build kernels for the S8, but don't add any oc possibility.
I just don't get why and am really curious if any of you understand why?
It's not that I'm not grateful for what they do (cause they are awesome) but I'm just REALLY curious and can't find the reason why it shouldn't and/or couldn't be done.
Dn_nS said:
Hi there,
I'm really loving xda for years cause the active community here (depending on the device) and love to overclock my phone.
Through the years I've oc'ed it all starting with my HTC legend.
I know that it isn't just adding some freqs and voltages to make this happen, but I don't understand why (kernel)makers don't oc the S8. For example, I see som kernel developers build kernels with oc/uc and voltage control for the S7 (exynos). Some of those developers now build kernels for the S8, but don't add any oc possibility.
I just don't get why and am really curious if any of you understand why?
It's not that I'm not grateful for what they do (cause they are awesome) but I'm just REALLY curious and can't find the reason why it shouldn't and/or couldn't be done.
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Well the snapdrag version can be underclocked but there is no OC as the kernel is not modifiable Due to locked BootLoader
TheMadScientist said:
Well the snapdrag version can be underclocked but there is no OC as the kernel is not modifiable Due to locked BootLoader
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Sorry I didn't specify things. I do mean the exynos version. There are some kernels that lift the 2,3 max freq to 2,65 GHz, but know that some S7 kernels climb to 2,9 GHz. So (in my book) that means the S8 should be able to overclock to 3 GHz (cause of the base A73 base of the 2nd gen mongoose cores and 10nm footprint).
So I'm just curious if it's not possible or there is some other reason why none are doing this.
And with underclocking I meant adding freqs that are below the standard lowest freq, my bad. (Don't how to call it otherwise)
Battery life.....
Battery life mainly.
Through overclocking, sure you can make s8 run as fast as oneplus considering s8's heavy skin, but most of us would rather see 6-8 hours of SOT with 24 hours of usage than our app opening 1-2 seconds faster.
Saying that, there are plenty of debloated roms for s8 that can run faster/smoother than the stock without sacrificing the battery life.
So, as for your question, maybe the devs don't want to put too much effort on overclocking an already pretty fast processor or underclocking an already pretty efficient processor. I am not a dev so can't really talk about complicated codings and stuff.
Why would you overclock a Ferrari?
IDan1109 said:
Why would you overclock a Ferrari?
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This! Says it all.
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The S8 is fast enough on its own. I never even OC'd my S6. I find Exynos processors to be really fast as-is.
It's true, I dont't see any practical use for overclocking, yet. It would be purely for the fun of it. I'm sure we will see it more in the future, when some more hardware-heavy Games will be released.
Undervolting on the other surprises me aswell, to not see it frequently. Because, although it's totally fine right now, batterylife and efficiency can always be better.
I'm curious if we will see more Devs include this in their ROMs and Kernels
I agree with all the above. I called either due to snapdragon but I wouldn't even i if I could. I actually limit the clock speed on my big CPUs because the higher clock rates eat more power.
Also, why? Just why? Looking at cpu usage on my s8, the only time I've seen it actually pegged was running benchmarks. Overclocking is absolutely useless if the variable cpu clock never goes to 100% for more than milliseconds. Why do something so potentially dangerous for nothing?
:good::good::good:Well put guys:good::good::good:
I cant overclock but i still have set cpu and use it to underclock (when the screen is off) but most kf the time it is underclocked if it is not playing a game or ram extensive app
IDan1109 said:
Why would you overclock a Ferrari?
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Why you overclock GTX 2080? Why you overclock i9 or amd threadripper 2950x cpu? Why you overclock DDR4 3000MHZ Ram? Why you use 3DMark? Or cinebench or, or or........
Thats all the same.
To everyone asking "Why??", I find it rather odd that you don't know already...
The reason why some of us like (want) to overclock, or undervolt, is the exact same reason we're all on this site: We like to TWEAK STUFF!
Doesn't matter if it's rooting, flashing a custom ROM, creating a unique theme, coding a new app. All of those boil down to the same human instinct to explore, to make things better, or make new things. Whether or not it's needed is completely irrelevant
Using your logic, there's no reason to have a custom kernel in the first place, nevermind rooting your phone, or having custom ROM. The phone worked fine the way it was, after all, right?
In closing, the motto "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" is what the lay people adhere to. We who are more inclined in certain aspects of life (such as the XDA community) live by another: "If it ain't broke, tweak it!", or if you rather "If it ain't broke, tweak it till it does, then fix it!"
Please add over/underclocking and over/under volting for CPU and GPU cores to every kernel, for every device that allows it! We already except blame if anything bad should come to our device the moment we decide to root and/or flash something, so why not give us every single capability available for the devices and leave it up to us to do what we so choose? :good:
[Naturally, this is based on the assumption that a device lacks a bootloader, and the kernel maker possesses the knowledge; thus, this is referring to those situations where both apply.]
IDan1109 said:
Why would you overclock a Ferrari?
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To be faster than other team who is performance tuning as well. You don't have to do it because not everyone is doing. It should be geared towards to people who really care. Like others in this thread mention battery life but people like me wants it faster.
Also I game with the phone connected to charger all the time. I don't really game on the go though if I did I would bring portable battery if someone driving me. That just me.
People like me use phones for emulation. GameCube games are almost at the right speed but do run just a bit to slow in some location rendering them unpleasant to play. A bit more of cpu power would certainly make " Wind waker " run at constant 30 FPS. I hope this topic to be revived
Well just a quick answer , it's because of how samsung's voltage table is set , the voltage table is locked and to be modifed it needs to be hacked in some sort , that's why you cant oc that much since you need to change the voltage table and increase it so you can have stable oc
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There is alot of kernels that has oc already gpu and cpu wise , they add like 200mhz oc or something for cpu and 100 for the gpu yeah that would give you that little bit of extra juice but it aint stable in some sort you can have kernel crashes or system hogging that's due to the voltage table , i can make you a kernel that has 600mhz oc but ass soon as you select it , the phone would crash since it doesnt have enough power going to it
As Xperia modder said, darn LOCKED voltage table. If only it was unlocked....
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Well just a quick answer , it's because of how samsung's voltage table is set , the voltage table is locked and to be modifed it needs to be hacked in some sort , that's why you cant oc that much since you need to change the voltage table and increase it so you can have stable oc
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There is alot of kernels that has oc already gpu and cpu wise , they add like 200mhz oc or something for cpu and 100 for the gpu yeah that would give you that little bit of extra juice but it aint stable in some sort you can have kernel crashes or system hogging that's due to the voltage table , i can make you a kernel that has 600mhz oc but ass soon as you select it , the phone would crash since it doesnt have enough power going to it
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Can I ask you a question? Just to have a doubt removed from my head. Do you know if Exynos 8890 devices have locked voltage table as well?
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As Xperia modder said, darn LOCKED voltage table. If only it was unlocked....
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Can I ask you a question? Just to have a doubt removed from my head. Do you know if Exynos 8890 devices have locked voltage table as well?
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Well tbh i dont know but this has always been. A thing with exynos chips , yeah some developers go out of their way and write some stuff from scratch to make it work you know
Dn_nS said:
Hi there,
I'm really loving xda for years cause the active community here (depending on the device) and love to overclock my phone.
Through the years I've oc'ed it all starting with my HTC legend.
I know that it isn't just adding some freqs and voltages to make this happen, but I don't understand why (kernel)makers don't oc the S8. For example, I see som kernel developers build kernels with oc/uc and voltage control for the S7 (exynos). Some of those developers now build kernels for the S8, but don't add any oc possibility.
I just don't get why and am really curious if any of you understand why?
It's not that I'm not grateful for what they do (cause they are awesome) but I'm just REALLY curious and can't find the reason why it shouldn't and/or couldn't be done.
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Yeah has been realesed a2n kernel oc up to 2,8 ghz and oc up to 839mhz all of them is all core
Hi... My s10e is rooted and i want to unlock full cpu speed.
Can i overclock the cpu and the gpu.
Thank you.
i'll say.... No
I was looking for this and apparently no one has developed a kernel able to tweak clock speeds / change governors yet, so I guess they never will.
This is kind of strange as this is my first phone since 2012 there isn`t a way to do so. I think as SOCs evolve, the demand to change its behavior goes down.
If anybody knows of a way, let me know please. Thanks.