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Android KitKat is rolling out.
Quote from Sony Mobile:
"The next Sony software rollout for*Xperia Z Ultra,Xperia Z1*and*Xperia Z1 Compact*starts right about now*…
We’ve been working to build new Sony experiences on Google’s KitKat release to create some neat / sweet features (if we say so ourselves) – in addition to a few performance tweaks here & there, some of the functionality you can look forward to includes:
Google’s Android 4.4; KitKat*as standard – bringing performance & UI optimisation…We’ve added*our tweaked Status Bar and Quick Settings… now more intuitive and customisable (and pretty easy on the eye)… cleaned up to ensure you only get the notifications you really need
If you’ve got a Sony PlayStation 4, you might recognize our new user interface*– we’ve added the same sleek launch animation and livewallpaper across the lock and home screens
We’re also*uplifting Sony’s entire native app portfolio to the latest versions*– bringing tweaked / improved / current experiences for (to name but a few): Messaging, MyXperia, Smart Connect, Small apps, TrackID, TrackID TV, Sony Select, Smart Social Camera and…
Sony’s Media apps: WALKMAN, Album and Movies, with Sony Entertainment Network cloud service integration**– a more converged and full Sony entertainment experience – Sony Entertainment Network & PlayMemories integration with a more intuitive UI, better download speeds, and more!
Our*unique custom interface experience: “Xperia Themes”,*with downloadable UI packs from Sony Select*– skin up to 280 assets across your Xperia smartphone with a variety of styles, and more to follow soon…"
More info available here: http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2014/03...eria-z-ultra-xperia-z1-and-xperia-z1-compact/
No signs of tap2wake and other stuff from Xperia Z2.
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jjpro45 said:
No signs of tap2wake and other stuff from Xperia Z2.
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Meh... That would kinda suck... Dev would've to port tap2wake from Z2\Z into custom kernel (which we still don't have) and that might take quite a looooong time =(
Was only waiting for kitkat only if smartcall and tap to wake up were in it... I dont see the point of upgrading.. :S
Since rollout is starting for our phone, when can we expect it?
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hash054 said:
Was only waiting for kitkat only if smartcall and tap to wake up were in it... I dont see the point of upgrading.. :S
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Kitkat brings quite a performance increase and improves battery life as well, so it's not THAT useless
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Since rollout is starting for our phone, when can we expect it?
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Depends on the region, but I think we would be seeing it in two weeks. Some of us might get the update today, others later...
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Kitkat brings quite a performance increase and improves battery life as well, so it's not THAT useless
Depends on the region, but I think we would be seeing it in two weeks. Some of us might get the update today, others later...
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Nothing in real life is true about that,kitkat is still buggy and has some battery drain problems,most of the people reported that they had less battery drain with 4.3 so we shall see(nexus 7 2013 kitkat user here)
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Kitkat brings quite a performance increase and improves battery life as well, so it's not THAT useless
Depends on the region, but I think we would be seeing it in two weeks. Some of us might get the update today, others later...
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Not motivated enough.. battery life already a charm and performance already a beast.. so.. its not worth it to update 4.3 to 4.4 just for the sake of changing the number..
Included in this software:
This upgrade for your Xperia™ smartphone includes many improvements, such as:
Introducing Android 4.4.2 KitKat with many new features and enhancements
Updated Camera application and overall tuning to improve the camera experience
Enhanced email app
Stability, performance & battery improvements
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Source: http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/software/phones/xperia-z1-compact/
Can't wait to get feedback about the (potential) improvements on the camera! :cyclops:
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hash054 said:
Not motivated enough.. battery life already a charm and performance already a beast.. so.. its not worth it to update 4.3 to 4.4 just for the sake of changing the number..
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I don't think that you don't want even better battery life .
Also, there are other improvements (like with the camera), new features, as quoted in my prev. post.
Any info on how Sony is handling the whole microSD debacle with its 4.4 KitKat firmware?
I use my microSD to store music and videos only, but I'm wondering if the 4.4 firmware can get me any problems with wifi syncing software (AirDroid, Cheetah Sync), or any 3rd party media player such as MX Player...
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downloading update now, i will make FTF
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Would you be so kind to test the camera improvements after update? Maybe the new version fixes the blurriness, noisiness and low light performance of the camera I wouldn't expect to remove the flash bleed but... who knows... maybe they played with the flash timing somehow...
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downloading update now, i will make FTF
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great Which region ? Can you post PC Companion update screenshot ? You customization ?
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great Which region ? Can you post PC Companion update screenshot ? You customization ?
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The update is via pc companion or OTA?
I will not update till having a safe and certain way to roll back and a rooted 4.4 rom... My 4.3 stock with root is almost perfect, no reason to change after reading the changelog. Just curiosity
lol @Jozinek I envy you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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KitKAt is really luxury, very nice UI
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Kindly update us with couple of screenshots.
Do post the ftf file when you are done uploading
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KitKAt is really luxury, very nice UI
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Please tell us what are the new features... Any of the z2 features implemented?
New feature list please... Anything new in the cam? Or at least doubletap 2 wake
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i dont see double tap Wake...
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oh noooo that f..ugly "new" quicksettings Why should I need a separate tab for them!?!?
Do you see any improvement in camera photos? Are there any new features like background defocus?
** DISCLAIMER: I AM NOT A DEVELOPER. I DO THIS AS A HOBBY AND SHARE MY FINDINGS IN CASE SOMEONE ELSE FINDS THEM USEFUL. **
** THIS WORKED ON MY DEVICE BUT IT MAY NOT WORK ON YOURS. APPLY AT YOUR OWN RISK **
Background:
Tablet Z is an amazing device. I have had a number of different Android devices with comparable specs but nothing has come close to this one in overall performance, durability, build, and stability. The question that I did not find an answer for and made me write this info piece is: what is the best stock ROM for this tablet that can offer the best overall stability and power consumption. Note that a lot of what follows are matters of opinion and personal preferences and you should probably tweak based on your specific needs. So first some basics.
Basics:
There is an empirical finding that the best performance is achieved from the ROMs that are available about six months to a year after the release of any given device and here is the justification. The device is initially shipped with the Android version available at the time of the release. This initial version is invariably buggy because the fast design cycles of these things do not allow a comprehensive test drive by the vendor. So the consumers report the bugs, they get patched, and about 6 months later everything is wrapped into the next version of Android and pushed as an update. This second ROM release is much more stable than the first one but still lacking a few things here and there, which brings us to the next major ROM that will fix most everything.
By this time we are 6 months to a year into the life of the product and the market is now seeing other devices with higher processing power and better specs. The Android releases at any given point in time are tweaked towards the expected performance of the devices that are available at that time. So the next update for your now-more-than-a-year-old device will have nicer features but it is geared towards other devices that are faster and better than yours. So now you upgrade to the third release and you will find that while all the initial bugs are gone the device is laggy and the battery goes down faster than it used to. Most devices don't have a straightforward procedure to downgrade to an older version (at least for the common user) and therefore you will just write this off as your device being too old and slow and then you will be likely convinced by a Sony salesperson to buy the next generation tablet and that is the end of that.
The key is to identify that sweet spot where the OS is stable and fast and tweak the performance there and NOT upgrade anymore. Let me say something about software upgrade while I have your attention. I have sadly found that a lot of people upgrade their phone/tablet OS without really knowing why they do it. Sometimes it almost looks like a fashion trend that since my neighbor is running his/her phone on Kitkat I must upgrade from Jellybean too. This often results in a slowdown of your system and sometimes even makes it impossible to do cool stuff such as rooting your device, because new updates close loopholes and vulnerabilities.
Xperia Tablet Z Stock Roms:
Before we get into that, let's mention the non-stock Roms such as AOSP and CM and their derivatives. There may be a compelling argument for certain cases where for example the vendor either heavily loads the device with bloatware that is difficult to remove or a custom Rom is needed to improve power or increase the performance by overclocking and whatnot. This is very true of some Samsung models with great hardware that are actually degenerated to slow devices with over-bloating and a little help from possessive phone operators like AT&T. However, this is not particularly true for Sony, or at least not yet. The Sony bloat is minimal and easy to remove and what Sony packs with the OS, such as multi-window, remote control, and Bravia engine, are in fact quite useful especially if you are using the device in a Sony ecosystem like with a big screen TV. Besides, Sony is very open-source friendly so there are not a whole lot of locked down features that you may need a custom ROM to get around. So I will limit this discussion to Sony's official Rom releases.
XTZ was initially shipped with 10.1.C.0.344 Android 4.1.2 in the US. Within a few months they upgraded it and if you like most people bought your tablet in the summer of 2013 it probably came with 10.1.C.0.370. This was to fix a touch sensitivity problem and improve WiFi. No update however is complete without limiting the ability of the user to root the device so Sony patched a vulnerability that allows the method of rooting you find inside the menus of Flashtool. Soon another vulnerability was discovered and a piece of code was written by Doomslord which would remain the only safe way to root XTZ until Towelroot was born. The update also removed the ability to choose the number of active cores, which was not the end of the world of course.
This release arguably has the best user interface which located the important touch keys on the bottom left and right sides of the screen, which is easy to operate when you grab the tablet with two hands. However, it had a few performance issues. For example, adding a weather widget would introduce a visible lag when swiping the home screen. It didn;t take long before users started nagging on different forums about how they are not running the latest Android version and how Sony should release it ASAP,... and Sony did.
Android 4.2.2 (10.3.1.C.0.136) removed the nice tablet UI. Soft button keys were now at the bottom center of the display with nothing on the left and right sides, which makes it awkward to grab the tablet with two hands and operate these keys at the same time. The notification area that was previously on the bottom right hand side would now be relocated to the top banner which resulted in a loss of screen real estate, and this pissed off a lot of users including yours truly. In all fairness it was not Sony's fault because this was a decision made by Google to unify tablet and phone interfaces beyond 4.2.2. Sony did their best to give something back (Quick Settings option in top notification bar) and mitigate the lost screen area (Semi-transparent bar in lockscreen). Then there were added features like multi-user support, ability to change the length of “preview time” after shooting a snap from camera, widgets on both homescreen and lockscreen,Video Unlimited movie app integration, updated media apps, my Xperia app to track the tablet in case it is lost, and official support 64 GB SD card.
The initial 4.3 release (10.4.B.0.577) changed the UI to a white theme that looks a lot like Xperia Z1 and Z Ultra: new improved smart camera app and new Xperia wallpapers (like Xperia Z1). A cool feature was added that allows the downloading of themes which change the navigation bar and status bar colors, and the soft keys icons as well. New keyboard app was added with one-hand keyboard settings. Also, a Windows Tethering option made it possible to pair the tablet with Windows 8.1. All welcome options which made most of us get over the grudge caused by the removal of the Tablet UI. Screen was calibrated for a brighter display and restricted profiles settings added more control of the multi-user feature.
The best feature which went unnoticed by many was the new version of Battery STAMINA Mode. Not that the older one needed any serious make-over but this one offered even a longer battery life. By now, almost all the lag observed in earlier versions were gone. For example, the weather widget would no longer self-update until the swiping was complete and this provided a significant smoothness in home display transitions. Finally, the 4.3 update 10.4.1.B.0.109 reduced the display flickering, improved battery life, shortened shutdown times, and fixed a problem which made it possible to use Bluetooth without losing WiFi.
Sometime in May of 2014 Sony released the long-awaited 4.4.2 Kitkat update (10.5.A.0.230) and this was when things started to go south. Sure, there where enhancements in camera app, ability to add emojis to messages, screenshots via the power menu, updates to Email, Calendar, and other apps, and good looking live wallpapers. But nothing could hide the fact that the tablet was now visibly slower and the battery would drain much faster. Sony admitted that the battery drain is a real problem and traced it to a buggy version of the Google services, which the user could uninstall or disable but that didn't make the update any faster.
The fact is, Xperia Tablet Z has a snapdragon S4 running at 1.5GHz, which from an antutu score perspective sets it at around the 20-21k mark. For comparison consider the Tablet Z2 with a 2.3GHz Snapdragon 801 with an antutu score in the 35000 range and that is really the type of system that the Sony Kitkat update should run on. That's why the tablet becomes so sluggish after the kitkat upgrade. The transitions are visibly slow and even if you disable live wallpapers and other things the settings menus will remain slow. In fact the antutu score after this upgrade drops sharply to around 18000.
Sony eventually released Kitkat 4.4.4 with 10.5.1.A.0.283 in late summer of 2014 and updated that a month or two later with a limited release of 10.5.1.A.0.292 in Nordic countries. These update are more fluid than 4.4.2 with much less lag in different programs. All Kitkat releases have been plagued by a sever battery drain due to a malfunctioning of Google Play services, which is resolved if you update this app to 5.2.08 after the firmware installation. 4.4.4 is still slower in Antutu scores compared to 4.3.
And the winner is...
4.4.4, followed by 4.3.
With the latest Kitkat update (4.4.4) I found that after patching the Google services and minimal debloating the tablet will last 78 days (more than two and half months) in standby. That is pretty impressive. See the screenshots (under Attached Thumbnails). So if you decide to go with 4.4.4, to get the most out of your battery:
1- Upgrade Google Play services to 5.2.08.
2- Go to settings:
Wifi -> Advanced -> Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep -> Never
Wifi -> Advanced -> Scanning always available -> off
Wifi -> Advanced -> Wifi optimization -> on
Power management -> Stamina Mode on and queue background data
3- Disable Google+ and Hangouts (and play store, if you don't use it). I suggest turning off both "Remotely locate" and "allow remote lock" options under Android device manager in Google settings.
4- Uninstall (via Titanium backup) or remove from /system/app and priv-app SonyEntrance.apk and UpdateCenter.apk. If your tablet is wifi only do the same for SemcTelephonyProvider.apk, Stk.apk, phone-usage.apk, and SemcPhone.apk.
The 4.3 update 10.4.1.B.0.109 provides a good battery life too. In standby it can last about 55 days without a recharge (see 1.jpg and 2.jpg). In camparision, the 4.4.2 release lasts about 40-45 days under similar testing conditions. To install 4.3 you can either use this long procedure: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2772943 which gives you a pre-rooted 4.3, with the added benefit of a nice recovery image, or flash a stock ftf and root it with towelroot. Either way you need to learn and use flashtool because this update is no longer available through Sony's update channels. If you decide to go with 4.4.4, to get the most out of your battery:
1- Root and disable non essential programs either using Titanium backup or other methods that require a knowledge of the terminal emulator. On an SGP311 For 4.3 what you typically disable is the following (the list is different for the LTE version!):
B2bCustInstaller, com.sonyericsson.startupflagservice, Crackle, Facebook, FBiX Post Viewer, Gmail (and use the stock Email client if you have want to check your gmail), Google Play Books/Games/Magazines/Movies/Music, Google+ and Hangout, Let's start PSM, McAfee Security, Mobile Data, Mobile Network, Configuration, Netflix, POBox Touch (unless you use Japanese keyboard), Reader, Sim Lock, Sim Toolkit, Social Engine, Socialife, Twitter, Video Unlimited, Wisepilot (which doesn't work anyway!), Xperia AppShare, Xperia Calendar Sync, Xperia Friends' music, Xperia Music Likes, Xperia Social Engine Photos/Sharing (all of them), Xperia Chinese keyboard, Xperia with Facebook and Twitter.
2- Then go to settings:
Wifi -> Advanced -> Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep -> Never
Power management -> Stamina Mode on.
I tried programs like Juice Defender but it seemed that in the presence of Sony's Stamina mode none of that is necessary.
One last detail. As you can see in the picture mobile data is still burning 3% although I froze/disabled it in Titanium. The reason is that while freezing an app prevents it from starting at boot-up, the binary is still in the storage and other apps can still invoke it. If you want that portion to go down to zero you will need to uninstall the app in Titanium (or delete/rename the app to disable it, which requires knowledge of the terminal emulator.)
Update: Sony released 5.0.2 with 10.6.A.0.454 in late spring of 2015 and 5.1.1 in September. The standby battery life is nowhere near the latest 4.4.4 or 4.3.
So that is it folks. Give it a try and see it for yourself. At the end of the day, regardless of the firmware, this is an awesome tablet which will still be around after all of its peers are gone and forgotten.
Thanks for your reply. In general i agree with you that the most stable and responsive (fluid) was 10.4.1.B.0.109 on SGP311/312 and 10.4.1.B.0.101 on SGP321. However you can perform fresh install of 10.5.A.0.230 KitKat, make some performance-wise adjustments/remove-freeze bloatware and you will have practically the same performance. As i did it, i can't distinguish between 4.4 and 4.3 in performance at least visually, however it shows a little bit less score in Antutu, 21500 for JB, 20800 for my adjusted KK, but it doesn't really matter.
This is a great post. Thank you. I noticed the performance since installing KitKat has been sluggish too. I haven't tried optimizing it much, haven't had time, but I'm going to try that before downgrading to 4.3. The animations and transitions are so sluggish its annoying. Makes me want a new tablet to be honest heheh.
Great post! Although I'm still loving 4.4. I really missed immersive mode since I've had Nexus phones.. Anyway after fixing the settings app the other 'glitches' in kitkat weren't noticeable. Battery life's awesome since most of the not needed things are disabled/uninstalled.
I get 3-4 days with moderate to heavy use with about 9-10 hours of screen on time. It's really an indoor tablet for me so the brightness can be as low as minimum with no impact on visibility.
I bought my tablet without thinking 6 months ago but I honestly have 0 regrets. It's a truly amazing multimedia device.
Too bad Cyanogenmod 11 is in a poor state with still buggy nightlies and no proper milestone releases...
And I agree Kitkat feels a bit sluggish on the tablet, especially when you compare it to a Snapdragon 801 phone.
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Too bad Cyanogenmod 11 is in a poor state with still buggy nightlies and no proper milestone releases...
And I agree Kitkat feels a bit sluggish on the tablet, especially when you compare it to a Snapdragon 801 phone.
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Snapdragon itself it a way way more faster chip. Also Sony don't really bother with OS optimizations for old devices.
As per my opinion since i updated .233 update via flashtool that Lag and sluggishness is gone perfectly
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-tablet-z/general/ftf-4-4-10-5-0-233-sgp321-3at-t2789187
Alongwith a little mod with beats audio improves the internal speakers upto 100dbi more who feels tab internal speaker volume is low.
Update to .233 and enjoy the tab to its full capacity
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Thanks for the write-up.
I'm a noob that's researched this to death, and this adds some clarity to whats becoming more murky as I read.
Will probably try to optimize 4.4.2 1st before attempting your link (I'm hoping a couple of other posters on this thread can point me in the right direction - question forthcoming but could you clarify 'or flash a stock ftf and root it with towelroot'? Sorry for the noob question, but 'root after flash' and 'what specific stock ftf' has me lost. Thanks
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Thanks for your reply. In general i agree with you that the most stable and responsive (fluid) was 10.4.1.B.0.109 on SGP311/312 and 10.4.1.B.0.101 on SGP321. However you can perform fresh install of 10.5.A.0.230 KitKat, make some performance-wise adjustments/remove-freeze bloatware and you will have practically the same performance. As i did it, i can't distinguish between 4.4 and 4.3 in performance at least visually, however it shows a little bit less score in Antutu, 21500 for JB, 20800 for my adjusted KK, but it doesn't really matter.
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Do you have a link to the method by which you optimize?
Thanks
gmore1 said:
Thanks for the write-up.
I'm a noob that's researched this to death, and this adds some clarity to whats becoming more murky as I read.
Will probably try to optimize 4.4.2 1st before attempting your link (I'm hoping a couple of other posters on this thread can point me in the right direction - question forthcoming but could you clarify 'or flash a stock ftf and root it with towelroot'? Sorry for the noob question, but 'root after flash' and 'what specific stock ftf' has me lost. Thanks
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Do you have a link to the method by which you optimize?
Thanks
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i installed 4.4.4 which is already optimized by sony. Antutu benchmark +2000 scores comparing to 4.4.2:victory:
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i installed 4.4.4 which is already optimized by sony. Antutu benchmark +2000 scores comparing to 4.4.2:victory:
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You've given me even more homework, but I greatly appreciate the response
I currently have a stock (unlocked/unrooted) Tab Z and if I understood the 4.4.4 posts I've read, the best method to keep root(towelroot for 4.4.2+older) and files is install via OTA which requires an unlocked bootloader, which requires a code from Sony so.... a brief summary of steps to keep my unit as 'open/versatile' as possible here would be....
1:Get code from Sony
2:Unlock bootloader
3:Install Flashtool and root via towelroot (the order here is not important?)
4:Back up files
5:Install 4.4.4 via OTA
Done?
And then I'm left to be able to move back and/or install older firmware?
If this is a PITA to answer, I understand - appreciate any help
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You've given me even more homework, but I greatly appreciate the response
I currently have a stock (unlocked/unrooted) Tab Z and if I understood the 4.4.4 posts I've read, the best method to keep root(towelroot for 4.4.2+older) and files is install via OTA which requires an unlocked bootloader, which requires a code from Sony so.... a brief summary of steps to keep my unit as 'open/versatile' as possible here would be....
1:Get code from Sony
2:Unlock bootloader
3:Install Flashtool and root via towelroot (the order here is not important?)
4:Back up files
5:Install 4.4.4 via OTA
Done?
And then I'm left to be able to move back and/or install older firmware?
If this is a PITA to answer, I understand - appreciate any help
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Be AWARE !
Before unlocking bootloader BE SURE TO BACK UP YOUR TA PARTITION OR YOU WILL LOOSE DRM LICENCE KEYS FOREVER !!!
Google "Sony DRM TA backup" to find more information.
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You've given me even more homework, but I greatly appreciate the response
I currently have a stock (unlocked/unrooted) Tab Z and if I understood the 4.4.4 posts I've read, the best method to keep root(towelroot for 4.4.2+older) and files is install via OTA which requires an unlocked bootloader, which requires a code from Sony so.... a brief summary of steps to keep my unit as 'open/versatile' as possible here would be....
1:Get code from Sony
2:Unlock bootloader
3:Install Flashtool and root via towelroot (the order here is not important?)
4:Back up files
5:Install 4.4.4 via OTA
Done?
And then I'm left to be able to move back and/or install older firmware?
If this is a PITA to answer, I understand - appreciate any help
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no! no need to unlock bootloader to root device and get OTA.
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no! no need to unlock bootloader to root device and get OTA.
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Be AWARE !
Before unlocking bootloader BE SURE TO BACK UP YOUR TA PARTITION OR YOU WILL LOOSE DRM LICENCE KEYS FOREVER !!!
Google "Sony DRM TA backup" to find more information.
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OK.
I won't be 'developing' anytime soon, so no need to unlock. I just thought in order to access anything newer than 4.4.2 OTA from Sony would require it.
Thank you both and sorry again for the ?'s, but this has been WAY more involved than the days of rooting my Photon
Will continue my research on OTA 4.4.4.
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OK,
No 4.4.4 for SGP312 yet so I guess just be patient and make sure I'm rooted and backed up?
Any link for optimizing in the meantime still appreciated - many searches and I can't find anything.
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No 4.4.4 for SGP312 yet so I guess just be patient and make sure I'm rooted and backed up?
Any link for optimizing in the meantime still appreciated - many searches and I can't find anything.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/xpe...oot-4-4-4-kitkat-sgp311-10-5-1-0-283-t2875885
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-tablet-z/development/root-sp321-ftf-10-5-1-0-283-t2873377
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/xpe...oot-4-4-4-kitkat-sgp311-10-5-1-0-283-t2875885
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-tablet-z/development/root-sp321-ftf-10-5-1-0-283-t2873377
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OK
I was aware of 4.4.4 via FT and PC, but based on a post I had read in another thread, thought only OTA would allow one to maintain root after 4.4.2...
I should have read further into that thread.
This should do it -Thanks again Rootk1t
Can I just clarify... in the first post, it says "On an SGP311 what you typically enable is the following..." Do I take it that should say disable, not enable?
I also noticed that I don't have B2bCustInstaller, but I do have B2bCertInstaller and B2bCustomSetupWizard. Are either of those two, the same as you mentioned?
This latest update (10.5.1.A.0.283) has introduced some annoyances with video playback, so I am trying to get rid of useless apps etc... in the hope that one of them clears things up.
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Can I just clarify... in the first post, it says "On an SGP311 what you typically enable is the following..." Do I take it that should say disable, not enable?
I also noticed that I don't have B2bCustInstaller, but I do have B2bCertInstaller and B2bCustomSetupWizard. Are either of those two, the same as you mentioned?
This latest update (10.5.1.A.0.283) has introduced some annoyances with video playback, so I am trying to get rid of useless apps etc... in the hope that one of them clears things up.
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1- Thanks for pointing out the typo. I fixed it in the text.
2- You don't see B2bCustInstaller because Sony disables it by default, but it is still in your system. Leave the other two apps be. They will be dormant.
3- What annoyances are you referring to? I may be able to help if you are more specific.
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1- Thanks for pointing out the typo. I fixed it in the text.
2- You don't see B2bCustInstaller because Sony disables it by default, but it is still in your system. Leave the other two apps be. They will be dormant.
3- What annoyances are you referring to? I may be able to help if you are more specific.
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My tablet is primarily a video playback device for the music videos I collect. Before this update, video playback was smooth, after this update, it's just not quite right. What makes me think it's the update, is that I use MX Player Pro, and the video playback isn't smooth in that either. The Sony Movies app is all over the place with playback. One update it's fine, next update it's bad, then it might be okay again, but this update it's just not quite right. It was during a bad period that I decided to get MX Player Pro, which seemed much better... but now it's suffering the same problem.
To most people, it would probably look fine, but as a graphic artist, I find I'm very susceptible to the slightest irregularity in playback. As it affected two players, I presumed that it was a background service or something that was affecting resources enough to affect video decoding.
I would also just like to say thanks for providing that list. My tablet used to take just over an hour to recharge 10% of the battery life back. In just over 6 hours last night, it recharged 80%. So that's a major plus point in my book, so thank you for your efforts. :good:
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My tablet is primarily a video playback device for the music videos I collect. Before this update, video playback was smooth, after this update, it's just not quite right. What makes me think it's the update, is that I use MX Player Pro, and the video playback isn't smooth in that either. The Sony Movies app is all over the place with playback. One update it's fine, next update it's bad, then it might be okay again, but this update it's just not quite right. It was during a bad period that I decided to get MX Player Pro, which seemed much better... but now it's suffering the same problem.
To most people, it would probably look fine, but as a graphic artist, I find I'm very susceptible to the slightest irregularity in playback. As it affected two players, I presumed that it was a background service or something that was affecting resources enough to affect video decoding.
I would also just like to say thanks for providing that list. My tablet used to take just over an hour to recharge 10% of the battery life back. In just over 6 hours last night, it recharged 80%. So that's a major plus point in my book, so thank you for your efforts. :good:
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I'm not sure you can fix this by just disabling background processes. Sony's Kitkat release is slower at its core than 4.3 and that can be seen and quantified in an Antutu benchmark. Give it your best shot but your best bet is to downgrade to 4.3.
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I'm not sure you can fix this by just disabling background processes. Sony's Kitkat release is slower at its core than 4.3 and that can be seen and quantified in an Antutu benchmark. Give it your best shot but your best bet is to downgrade to 4.3.
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You're right, I disabled loads of stuff last night, and the problem frustratingly remains.
I'd ideally downgrade to 4.2, because I think 4.3 is where Sony removed the screenshot option (before cunningly adding it back in 4.4 as a "new feature"), isn't it? I use that a lot, because my eyes aren't that good, and when you hit a website that blocks pinch-zooming, or you get an app that has text that is too small, like Google Earth, I frequently need to capture the screen and zoom in.
Of course, the problem with this solution is that downgrading to a specific rom version, for a specific version of the tablet, in a specific territory, is not that simple. I'll have to spend some time collecting the required files and instructions, then wait for a good day (mentally), to give it a go.
This is text from one pc/mobile portal in Croatia.
They never said anything what's not confirmed and checked...
I won't translating whole txt but will translate punchline...
..."Sony expected losts for a 2014 in amount of 470 mil $, now they changed their expectations and said they will end fiscal year with a total lost of 2,15 bil $..."
Why and which division failed?
..."as a mani reason for awful results they blamed Xperia mobile device department.
Now they have changed their strategy and will try to sell more if their higher level products..."
If Z3 is part of that plan I'm not sure they will succeed
After they start to care about customers and maintained their devices like they should we all reacted by buying new devices from Xperia lines...and what we got from them?
Current flagship on 4.4.2, lousy wifi drivers and EDIT camera?!
I really think this is Sonys last chance to shake their heads and think again...
Once they lose their fans it's gonna be impossible to get them back.
I know I feel like EDIT when I give 2000$ in one year for a two devices and can't get even decent software if not flagship for at least one year...
Original article:
Japanska korporacija Sony objavila je financijske detalje vezane za proteklo tromjesečje, a u njima se nalazi i revidirano očekivanje ukupnog financijskog rezultata za tekuću godinu. Prema tim podacima, umjesto planiranog gubitka od oko 470 milijuna američkih dolara, sada se očekuje da će fiskalna godina u ožujku 2015. biti zaključena s gubitkom od čak 2,15 milijardi USD.
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Nakon što su već jednom umanjili svoja očekivanja u srpnju, ovi posljednji podaci dodatno zabrinjavaju analitičare. Kao glavni razlog za revidiranje prognoza navodi se slaba prodaja kompanijinih Xperia pametnih telefona. Početkom godine mobilna je divizija Sonyja bila fokusirana na ostvarivanje značajnog rasta prodaje, koji nije ostvaren. Sada je kompanija promijenila i strategiju za tu diviziju, pa će se umjesto rasta do kraja godine morati baviti umanjivanjem rizika i pokušati stabilizirati zaradu od prodaje mobitela. Također, veći će fokus biti stavljen na prodaju uređaja visoke klase
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I have read this article as well. Why sony couldnt just invest on the software side rather than creating bunch of useless phones??? Poor Sony ...
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DrearierJester1 said:
I have read this article as well. Why sony couldnt just invest on the software side rather than creating bunch of useless phones??? Poor Sony ...
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This maybe the next step they will do it. Sin
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DrearierJester1 said:
I have read this article as well. Why sony couldnt just invest on the software side rather than creating bunch of useless phones??? Poor Sony ...
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This maybe the next step they will do it. Since it is clearly sony lacks software technicalities. Their hardware is top notch I really hope they should implement like apple software updates create a low, mid to premium range that has a uniform update just like ios style. But not loosing the buttery smooth user interface.
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Sorry for double post, don't know how to delete post...
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DrearierJester1 said:
I have read this article as well. Why sony couldnt just invest on the software side rather than creating bunch of useless phones??? Poor Sony ...
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I guess they wanted fast money and to overflow the market with devices, they didn't think about software at all.
If they invested in software right at the start, it would have been very slow for them to make profit, since there's no direct profit from software..
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I guess they wanted fast money and to overflow the market with devices, they didn't think about software at all.
If they invested in software right at the start, it would have been very slow for them to make profit, since there's no direct profit from software..
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agree ... but at least people would know that Sony has the best stable software and features, just like iOS (not sure if u guys will agree, lol). Afterall, Sony is still a hardware company ...
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agree ... but at least people would know that Sony has the best stable software and features, just like iOS (not sure if u guys will agree, lol). Afterall, Sony is still a hardware company ...
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True, but hardware is as important as software. They really need to optimized it. I'm impressed for their walkman, album and movie app after all their updates its really useful and beautiful but if they really want to impressed the consumers they have add more useful features. Improvement on daily and basic function can be improve from beautification of user interface without sacrificing fast and responsive app.
Sony is known for innovative of improved product they should start thinking like that.
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sony has been floping here and there about the place, Z2 Sold alot
honnestly, sony should listen to the more technical customers, over "customers" because alot of these hardware technitions are pointing out almost all xperias not having head basins or pypes or anything to prevent heating, alot are pointint out bad motherboard design, and another thing Xperias aside Z2 have great firmware but everything that doesnt have 4.4.4 right now, is on a very slugish firmware, every single device, 4.1.2 and up
I can't agree to that statement that they don't have good software department...
They have great engineers, you'll see once when Z3 will be released.
And that's something that fans won't approve.
They added new camera features and it's obvious they could do that on Z2.
They added awesome feature called ultimate stamina, where your device kills all background proces, wif,mobile data and gps and leave your device with just basic functions - that way you can use your device for a 7-8 days without charging...
They add awesome new sound processing and many new features...
I know they can't add everything in one device and they have to leave at least one ace in their sleeve but this approach isn't good...
To update your device every six months just to get something two years old device could deal with it nonsense...not only nonsense...it's rude...
I could accept that approach if we are talking in low or even mid range of devices but guys...we are talking about device we paid 1000$!!!
Sony isn't doing very smart thing and that will cost them more then 2.xx bil $.
When I joined Xperia family I stayed here for a long time but when we realized it's enough and we, real fans, who are buying every piece of s**t they are selling, leave this sinking ship...they'll be in bigger problems.
Because once you realized HTC or Oneplus or anyone else is offering more for your money and more fair for your money you won't ever get back...
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Having those Z3 features doesnt make Sony engineers great. I would call them great if they can optimize the software to match the customers expectations and not a buggy fw.
Obviously they have to think new features to make sure Z3 has the edge apart from other Z series. Its just they limit them selves and bake a mediocre fw.
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I sent this to a range of sony emails
And im hoping they realise great Sw isnt great without good optimization or FW, Most cases as well HW.
Xperias arent bad, but there are these things that always puts customers off an Xperia
Although im going to continue buying xperias simply because of their great security and toughness i will constantly persist in trying to get my point across..
Revolution redux may be needed
DrearierJester1 said:
Having those Z3 features doesnt make Sony engineers great. I would call them great if they can optimize the software to match the customers expectations and not a buggy fw.
Obviously they have to think new features to make sure Z3 has the edge apart from other Z series. Its just they limit them selves and bake a mediocre fw.
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Customers expectations?
That would actually be a miracle...to please everyone and to satisfy every user.
I can't agree to that part - buggy fw...
Yeah , there are some things to polish but perfect smartphone doesn't exist.
Don't know, I'm quite satisfied with Z2, I'm satisfied with Z1, that's why I kept it...
We could have better camera auto mod, yes but we have manual mod and if you know what are you doing you can get incredible results (check camera and similar threads)
Improvement is always welcomed and oftenly possible... And I'm sure Z2 will get better fw and nice updates...
We have six months old devices, take it easy...it'll be OK..
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Customers expectations?
That would actually be a miracle...to please everyone and to satisfy every user.
I can't agree to that part - buggy fw...
Yeah , there are some things to polish but perfect smartphone doesn't exist.
Don't know, I'm quite satisfied with Z2, I'm satisfied with Z1, that's why I kept it...
We could have better camera auto mod, yes but we have manual mod and if you know what are you doing you can get incredible results (check camera and similar threads)
Improvement is always welcomed and oftenly possible... And I'm sure Z2 will get better fw and nice updates...
We have six months old devices, take it easy...it'll be OK..
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"every user", alot of user yes
Buggy fw, depends on how you use, it becomes unstable and messes up alot if you start modding or messing with it
Improvement is needed in some areas camera SW/FW may be needed comparing to other brands,
I am in agreement here
But this is my opinion/experiance
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"every user", alot of user yes
Buggy fw, depends on how you use, it becomes unstable and messes up alot if you start modding or messing with it
Improvement is needed in some areas camera SW/FW may be needed comparing to other brands,
I am in agreement here
But this is my opinion/experiance
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That's why I'm using eXistenZ v2 (soon, we'll have v3 with Ultimate Stamina) and it'll be even better.
It's not ROM marketing but I found v2 battery friendly and very, very good ROM with all features and apps I need daily.
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That's why I'm using eXistenZ v2 (soon, we'll have v3 with Ultimate Stamina) and it'll be even better.
It's not ROM marketing but I found v2 battery friendly and very, very good ROM with all features and apps I need daily.
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Sounds good, ive stuck my self to a modifed stock rom simple because the mods i have realy force battery over performance and heating
Im tempted to go to cm11 and theme it like an xperia rom just because im tired of this slight slowness in response on the stock rom
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Sounds good, ive stuck my self to a modifed stock rom simple because the mods i have realy force battery over performance and heating
Im tempted to go to cm11 and theme it like an xperia rom just because im tired of this slight slowness in response on the stock rom
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Yeah...I hate that too...
Every friend of mine who took this device to see it, after he heard specifications couldn't believe his eyes when he saw hiccups on scrolling.
It's better on eXistenZ, still not perfect but it's better.
I'm on LB and don't want anything except stock based ROM.
Actually, I can't unlock bootloader but I bought this device on purpose, because I knew I don't want to use custom kernels...
Battery life isn't good on CM (at least for me) and I'm on stock/stoxk based ROMs since Xperia S and PAC ROM
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Yeah...I hate that too...
Every friend of mine who took this device to see it, after he heard specifications couldn't believe his eyes when he saw hiccups on scrolling.
It's better on eXistenZ, still not perfect but it's better.
I'm on LB and don't want anything except stock based ROM.
Actually, I can't unlock bootloader but I bought this device on purpose, because I knew I don't want to use custom kernels...
Battery life isn't good on CM (at least for me) and I'm on stock/stoxk based ROMs since Xperia S and PAC ROM
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It weirldy depends on device power, for some odd reason Xperia S causes gapps to drain battery but on Z2 it has alot less of that,
cm11 on Z2 is perfectly fine, its about same life on stock then on Cm11
Im concidering Stopping development On my rom for Z2 untill 4.4.4 comes, i cant add any huge mods without them just not working, ive only been able to add small patches to the framework and boot class
Xperia S was a wonderful device, the only problem being the Linux Base was outdated and had a issue, once i patched that the device flew like a rocket, i added the patch to Envi-Rom V3 and upcoming V5
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It weirldy depends on device power, for some odd reason Xperia S causes gapps to drain battery but on Z2 it has alot less of that,
cm11 on Z2 is perfectly fine, its about same life on stock then on Cm11
Im concidering Stopping development On my rom for Z2 untill 4.4.4 comes, i cant add any huge mods without them just not working, ive only been able to add small patches to the framework and boot class
Xperia S was a wonderful device, the only problem being the Linux Base was outdated and had a issue, once i patched that the device flew like a rocket, i added the patch to Envi-Rom V3 and upcoming V5
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Hmm..That's nice then.. ?
I sold my XS to one friend of mine.
He is still using it and he's perfectly satisfied with it.
It's way to slow and old for me, z2 is perfect device for me now but we just have to admit Sony should build that device, or at least, some of the lines of it, better...
Quality control failed totally this time and that shouldn't happen to company like Sony (mobile)...
If they learn from z2 case/experiance - that'll be enough for me.
I'm planning to buy z4 and I really hope differences between 10th and 15th week won't be same as can see on Z2...
See ya guys...
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Hmm..That's nice then.. ?
I sold my XS to one friend of mine.
He is still using it and he's perfectly satisfied with it.
It's way to slow and old for me, z2 is perfect device for me now but we just have to admit Sony should build that device, or at least, some of the lines of it, better...
Quality control failed totally this time and that shouldn't happen to company like Sony (mobile)...
If they learn from z2 case/experiance - that'll be enough for me.
I'm planning to buy z4 and I really hope differences between 10th and 15th week won't be same as can see on Z2...
See ya guys...
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Sounds good, i plan to buy a New Xperia 18 months from now
Z6 i think if i did the math right, if there is another Z Ultra, id take that in a heartbeat
Z Ultra was wonderful to use, it fit my gorilla hands perfectly
XPERIA SP: PROJECT ILLUMINATE
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Introduction
What is the Xperia SP? Why do we have it? Many users have ditched their old phones to get the Xperia SP because of it's unique illumination bar. Many people i know in person have got the SP instead of the Z3 or other Z phones because of it's unique feature that stands out among all the other Android phones on the market:good:. But something went wrong when Sony decided to abandon our beloved Xperia SP after updating it from JellyBean to JellyBean... :crying:
Lollipop... we have made it so far in the development chain for Android without Sony's official ROM, we have even achieved a stable KitKat source from Cyanogenmod, amazing! . BUT most of us still dread in the inside when listening to music on our device, the illumination bar doesnt light up. I have tested many ROMs here on xda and only one or two AOSP ROMs could successfully support the illumination bar for music. I have met many people who have never left stock ROM because of this. It is a shame thinking that the works of many great developers such as MrSteve555, Furrydaus, Bagyusz (and much more!) are ignored because of this problem which has been ignored in many AOSP ROMs. Personally, the illumination issue does annoy me because that is the main reason i got the SP, but i also want to contribute to helping AOSP developers.
What We Can Do
We will need every developer to try and get the illumination API to support their ROM and maybe even support their stock music player (regardless if its Walkman or not). OR we could make a music player with the API which can support Lollipop 5.x and Kitkat 4.4.x :highfive:
Official Sony Illumination API: http://developer.sonymobile.com/knowledge-base/experimental-apis/illumination-bar-api/
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Walkman (for JB AOSP) [TEST]: https://mega.co.nz/#!IQgzib7Q!oFcJeDrlsP0rNA8BXKbelAiOm767Mk4LCRtyDwxBsHU
ILLUMINATION STATUSCyanogenmod 11 LBL by @bagyusz: No
Cyanogenmod 12 LBL by @bagyusz: No
Cyanogenmod 11 Weeklies LBL by @MrSteve555: Yes
Cyanogenmod 11S by @Furrydaus: Yes
Resurrection Remix 5.0.2 LBL by @Furrydaus: No
Resurrection Remix 5.3.7 UBL by @Furrydaus: No
Xperia Performance Max Ultra by @Marília de Oliveira: Yes (With Walkman)
ArchXperia 1.0.5 by @MT27i: Yes (With Walkman)
Z3 ExperienceSP 3.1 by @vwadam: No
Archxperia 1.1.0 by @MT27i: Yes (With Walkman)
XperianZe 3.0.5 by @Omessy7: No
Resurrection Remix 5.4.0 UBL by @Furrydaus: Yes
Cyanogenmod 12.1 (Unofficial UBL) by @Mrcl1450: Yes
Boot2Gecko (Firefox OS) by @boylush: No
Coming Soon:
NSX ROM by @demonio98: UNDER INVESTIGATION
Contribute to the list above by replying on this thread. DO NOT PM me.
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[COMMUNITY] Project Illuminate, Device Specific App for the Sony Xperia SP
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Source Code: http://developer.sonymobile.com/knowledge-base/experimental-apis/illumination-bar-api/
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Status: Testing
Created 2015-03-14
Last Updated 2015-03-15
I just remembered, for some users especially for KitKat and JellyBean users, Discolight is a good app on xda (if you Google "discolight apk", you'll find it). What it does is, you can enable a music beat function to apps that is not walkman like spotify and youtube , etc. And the illumination bar will still work when the screen is locked. Go check it out.
What I want to see is an updated version of that app for lollipop. (that app has been abandoned but works perfectly)
Try this for now http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/led-music-effect-rooted-device-t3053295
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Try this for now http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/led-music-effect-rooted-device-t3053295
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I have tried that and here are the problems with it:
1. It is loaded with bugs
2. Its 2.3+ which means its unstable in 4.4 (I have tested it) and it definitely doesn't work for lollipop
3. Its no longer supported
4. Its not an SP exclusive, which means it could be faulty.
U-Disco Pro is good when considering getting the illumination to work, but its a paid app
This problem however can only be solved by creating a new music player. Another possible solution is to have the existing music players to implement the illumination API into their app thus enabling support for our and some other Sony devices. For the ROM, the developer can port over the necessary libraries to make sure the illumination works out of the box. Or the user themselves can download this one "service" apk that handle illumination.
You can fork Apollo and add the illumination API though. However, of course, this will require Java programming knowledge, in which I don't know of.
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This problem however can only be solved by creating a new music player. Another possible solution is to have the existing music players to implement the illumination API into their app thus enabling support for our and some other Sony devices. For the ROM, the developer can port over the necessary libraries to make sure the illumination works out of the box. Or the user themselves can download this one "service" apk that handle illumination.
You can fork Apollo and add the illumination API though. However, of course, this will require Java programming knowledge, in which I don't know of.
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I did mention all of what you said above in the first post. I think I will have to take the initiative and add the illumination to walkman or Apollo or the "music" app from CM12 to get it to work on Lollipop and hopefully on KitKat.
I'll try to learn how to do this... Or is there a user who could step forward and mod an apk? This would be greatly appreciated. Let me know here if you wish to contribute to the project and I will PM you so we can discuss about the course of action
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I did mention all of what you said above in the first post. I think I will have to take the initiative and add the illumination to walkman or Apollo or the "music" app from CM12 to get it to work on Lollipop and hopefully on KitKat.
I'll try to learn how to do this... Or is there a user who could step forward and mod an apk? This would be greatly appreciated. Let me know here if you wish to contribute to the project and I will PM you so we can discuss about the course of action
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Well I would, but I have already mentioned before that I am lacking Java knowledge. In fact, I know nothing about Java programming
If you indeed want to learn, I just want to tell you that it might be a long way for you. It isn't easy to do coding, you know.. I am not scaring you or what, I just want to tell you so. I really wish good luck if you chose to learn programming!
If you wish, you might want to create a new thread in the General Android forum board that refers to this thread. In that way, maybe some other people can help us as well
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Well I would, but I have already mentioned before that I am lacking Java knowledge. In fact, I know nothing about Java programming
If you indeed want to learn, I just want to tell you that it might be a long way for you. It isn't easy to do coding, you know.. I am not scaring you or what, I just want to tell you so. I really wish good luck if you chose to learn programming!
If you wish, you might want to create a new thread in the General Android forum board that refers to this thread. In that way, maybe some other people can help us as well
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Yeah that would be a great idea but first I'll check with people I know. Most people in my family know programming. If that doesn't work out, I'll be going to the general android forum, thanks for the suggestion
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Yeah that would be a great idea but first I'll check with people I know. Most people in my family know programming. If that doesn't work out, I'll be going to the general android forum, thanks for the suggestion
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No problem. I hope someone can help achieving this beautiful thing for our beloved XSP. Thank you for starting the motivation too!
Why don't you just use U Disco? The Pro version only costs a few dollars.
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Why don't you just use U Disco? The Pro version only costs a few dollars.
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Because we shouldn't be paying for things that came built into our phone, its what we already paid for. A problem with U-Disco is, if you turn on the "coloured beat function", the app will be open at all times in the background and there is an annoying notification. Sometimes the whole app bugs out and it would take a while to get it back working again.
Here's the big problem: its no linger updated, therefore there is no lollipop support (yet). Until then I'm going to focus on an AOSP player exclusive for the SP which has the same features as walkman (hopefully)
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Because we shouldn't be paying for things that came built into our phone, its what we already paid for.
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That would make sense if it didn't work properly for the stock ROM, but these are third party ROM's we're talking about. These are made by the community and are in no way endorsed by the manufacturer. Besides, U Disco has more features than the stock light effects.
A problem with U-Disco is, if you turn on the "coloured beat function", the app will be open at all times in the background and there is an annoying notification.
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It needs to run in the background to work
Sometimes the whole app bugs out and it would take a while to get it back working again.
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I'm not going to disagree with this, it can be pretty temperamental.
Here's the big problem: its no linger updated, therefore there is no lollipop support (yet). Until then I'm going to focus on an AOSP player exclusive for the SP which has the same features as walkman (hopefully)
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Does it not work with Lollipop? I could've sworn it worked with ART on KitKat. Anyway, good luck with the app. It'll be nice to see a native light effect for music on KitKat.
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Does it not work with Lollipop? I could've sworn it worked with ART on KitKat. Anyway, good luck with the app. It'll be nice to see a native light effect for music on KitKat.
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It did work on ART with CM11 when I tried but sadly it doesn't work with Lollipop. The app does start up and all the other things like rainbow and flash strobe work... But the colour beat doesn't work . I've managed to get a modified Walkman apk to work on JB based AOSP ROMs with illumination support. After further testing, I'll release it for you guys to try
Eagerly waiting for this one.
The next test upload will take a while because I'll be testing it on Apollo. But first I'll need a person experienced with Java to.implement the API. Might take a while.
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Sadly U-disco Pro no longer works for updated CM11 builds (official and unofficial, LBL and UBL) and CM based ROMs . New ROMs don't work with U-disco either. definitely doesn't work on lollipop ? Roms
Is U-disco working for any of you on an updated build of CM11?
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Sadly U-disco Pro no longer works for updated CM11 builds (official and unofficial, LBL and UBL) and CM based ROMs . New ROMs don't work with U-disco either. definitely doesn't work on lollipop Roms
Is U-disco working for any of you on an updated build of CM11?
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Working fine for me, CM11 Official Nightlies here, with ART enabled too. Mind you, I'm no longer running the latest build.
Plum Crazy said:
Working fine for me, CM11 Official Nightlies here, with ART enabled too. Mind you, I'm no longer running the latest build.
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Are those official nightlies?
Try going onto the latest build and test it.
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TheAvengingTITAN said:
Are those official nightlies?
Try going onto the latest build and test it.
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Yep, they're the Official Nightlies. I'll update to the latest build later and update this post when I test it.
Edit: Tested and working on the latest Nightlies, ART runtime. But what I find weird about U Disco is that when I set the audio source to the speaker and open a music player, the light strip does absolutely nothing; when I do the same thing with YouTube, it works perfectly. It's always been like this for me, just thought that you might find it helpful.
Install this before and then enjoy U-Disco
I must say I'm rather impressed being the X is an older phone yet it receives the new security updates rather quickly.. Just got May's update..
yes sony , for unknown reason included X on android 8 project
lilbrat said:
I must say I'm rather impressed being the X is an older phone
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Everything is fine, welcome to Extended support cycle from Sony. Its hardware is still great, so why not update it?
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yes sony , for unknown reason included X on android 8 project
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What unknown? What? Is this device have some problems? Maybe its CPU overheats? Maybe it has bad drivers? Maybe it's running on MTK?
There's everything obvious - Xperia X is still a great device, and it SHOULD get every security update.
Gray47Maxx said:
Everything is fine, welcome to Extended support cycle from Sony. Its hardware is still great, so why not update it?
What unknown? What? Is this device have some problems? Maybe its CPU overheats? Maybe it has bad drivers? Maybe it's running on MTK?
There's everything obvious - Xperia X is still a great device, and it SHOULD get every security update.
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Initially X was never part of ANdroid 8 when sony released software binaries. however it was last minute include. the line was drawn at X-perf
It feels good how finally Android 8 is running stable on X however as daily driver and with burden of social apps. X starts lagging and overheats as you said! , many functions and camera don't work.
X is not MTK device
YasuHamed said:
Initially X was never part of ANdroid 8 when sony released software binaries.
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Lies. It was obvious from the start that it will get Oreo. Software binaries? Do you mean SODP ones?
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It feels good how finally Android 8 is running stable on X...
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It was running great from the start. Maybe only camera was a little worse.
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...however as daily driver and with burden of social apps. X starts lagging and overheats as you said! , many functions and camera don't work.
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That's only a problem of YOUR PERSONAL device. My X is neither lagging nor overheating even in a hot situations (tested in my bathroom with 41 gradus temperature, runs great). I don't have any problems with my X, neither all my X users I know from 4PDA. So stop telling people that Oreo is bad when YOUR device overheats and lags, please.
I suggest you to visit some local repair shops and ask them for checking your cooling system.
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Lies. It was obvious from the start that it will get Oreo. Software binaries? Do you mean SODP ones?
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personal attacks aside!
on this road map xperia X and X performance was added later, sony had cut-off taken for OREO for XZ PROJECT ONLY! however later two X devices added, A post was on xda did mention last year how Sony has announced to discontinue X and Xc when it was just on 7.0 only! back then everyone was hoping that it should get atleast 7.1, if not Oreo!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-x/how-to/futur-x-t3614147 <------check yourself
also sony added X, Xp and Xc later in 2017 for Oreo! the original cutoff was til XZ project only! X family was not part of it inicially
https://blogs.sonymobile.com/2017/08/31/xperia-android-8-0-oreo/
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It was running great from the start. Maybe only camera was a little worse.
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the Camera still cant record hd video more than 40 secons and shuts down due to heat.
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That's only a problem of YOUR PERSONAL device. My X is neither lagging nor overheating even in a hot situations (tested in my bathroom with 41 gradus temperature, runs great). I don't have any problems with my X, neither all my X users I know from 4PDA. So stop telling people that Oreo is bad when YOUR device overheats and lags, please.
I suggest you to visit some local repair shops and ask them for checking your cooling system.
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I own two Xperia X, Black and Lime, so there goes your argument.
also its not my personal opinion and as Hardware there is NOTHING wrong with Xperia X. we are talking about software part.
I have tried my Black X with Omnirom 7.1.1 and 8.1 and the same X has
1. Amazing Batter Life
2. No overheating
3. no Lagging
4. Camera works perfect and records 4K
since you are using my modded kernels and ROOT ACCESS allows you to modify Oreo by having different modes in Magisks and/or control bloatware etc.
I would suggest you to flash oreo .2.70 right-away and use untouched for one weak with all the bells ringing and we will see
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personal attacks aside!
on this road map xperia X and X performance was added later, sony had cut-off taken for OREO for XZ PROJECT ONLY! however later two X devices added, A post was on xda did mention last year how Sony has announced to discontinue X and Xc when it was just on 7.0 only! back then everyone was hoping that it should get atleast 7.1, if not Oreo!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-x/how-to/futur-x-t3614147 <------check yourself
also sony added X, Xp and Xc later in 2017 for Oreo! the original cutoff was til XZ project only! X family was not part of it inicially
https://blogs.sonymobile.com/2017/08/31/xperia-android-8-0-oreo/
the Camera still cant record hd video more than 40 secons and shuts down due to heat.
I own two Xperia X, Black and Lime, so there goes your argument.
also its not my personal opinion and as Hardware there is NOTHING wrong with Xperia X. we are talking about software part.
I have tried my Black X with Omnirom 7.1.1 and 8.1 and the same X has
1. Amazing Batter Life
2. No overheating
3. no Lagging
4. Camera works perfect and records 4K
since you are using my modded kernels and ROOT ACCESS allows you to modify Oreo by having different modes in Magisks and/or control bloatware etc.
I would suggest you to flash oreo .2.70 right-away and use untouched for one weak with all the bells ringing and we will see
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So do you mean nougat has much better battery than Oreo?
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So do you mean nougat has much better battery than Oreo?
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Due to the following features I am using Oreo (XGEN) build on .2.50
1. Better Screen Resolution/Tone ( the tint in Oreo on screen is soothing to eyes as compare to N)
2. Cleartype ScreenFonts
3. Nighlight
4. Notification settings options and panel
5. Setting Menu simplified (a bit better than Nougat)
-- however these are all UI and cosmetic affects
I was happier and relaxed on the final build .252 (came dec17) android 7.1.1. I kept switching back to .252 after trying first two Oreo builds which I found horrible in terms of battery life & overheating; and its not just me, many user reported the same on various posts (in and out of XDA forums) about how after upgrading to Oreo they are facing overheating and battery drain issues. when X overheats it starts lagging.
10April18 build .2.50 (third attempt) has been quite better than its predecessor builds but still can't compete with dec17 build .252.
REMEMBER, my comparison / observation is on ROOTED Xperia-X
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Due to the following features I am using Oreo (XGEN) build on .2.50
1. Better Screen Resolution/Tone ( the tint in Oreo on screen is soothing to eyes as compare to N)
2. Cleartype ScreenFonts
3. Nighlight
4. Notification settings options and panel
5. Setting Menu simplified (a bit better than Nougat)
-- however these are all UI and cosmetic affects
I was happier and relaxed on the final build .252 (came dec17) android 7.1.1. I kept switching back to .252 after trying first two Oreo builds which I found horrible in terms of battery life & overheating; and its not just me, many user reported the same on various posts (in and out of XDA forums) about how after upgrading to Oreo they are facing overheating and battery drain issues. when X overheats it starts lagging.
10April18 build .2.50 (third attempt) has been quite better than its predecessor builds but still can't compete with dec17 build .252.
REMEMBER, my comparison / observation is on ROOTED Xperia-X
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Yea I will for sure root all my android device so I needed some opinion on rooted device. Guess I might go back to nougat sometimes
coconutxyz said:
Yea I will for sure root all my android device so I needed some opinion on rooted device. Guess I might go back to nougat sometimes
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i feel the same! i will go back to nougat once sony discontinue supporting X
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A post was on xda did mention last year how Sony has announced to discontinue X and Xc when it was just on 7.0 only! back then everyone was hoping that it should get atleast 7.1, if not Oreo!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-x/how-to/futur-x-t3614147 <------check yourself
also sony added X, Xp and Xc later in 2017 for Oreo! the original cutoff was til XZ project only! X family was not part of it inicially
https://blogs.sonymobile.com/2017/08/31/xperia-android-8-0-oreo/
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I can't remember the original roadmap, but I can't trust XDA as well. So there you may be right.
UPD: You are wrong. It was included in the list from the start: proof, not updated. Wayback Machine link provided as well.
P.S. What a ridiculous source of the info - just a random guy.
YasuHamed said:
the Camera still cant record hd video more than 40 secons and shuts down due to heat.
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Do you need my FHD 60 FPS video recorded on X without any additional cooling systems? I can provide one.
YasuHamed said:
I own two Xperia X, Black and Lime, so there goes your argument.
also its not my personal opinion and as Hardware there is NOTHING wrong with Xperia X. we are talking about software part.
I have tried my Black X with Omnirom 7.1.1 and 8.1 and the same X has
1. Amazing Batter Life
2. No overheating
3. no Lagging
4. Camera works perfect and records 4K
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I have the same on stock Oreo, everything except the first point. OmniROM (and k4.4 in general) are more optimized.
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since you are using my modded kernels and ROOT ACCESS allows you to modify Oreo by having different modes in Magisks and/or control bloatware etc.
I would suggest you to flash oreo .2.70 right-away and use untouched for one weak with all the bells ringing and we will see
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Nice challenge!)
I'd like to accept it, but since I was already using Oreo on locked bl (before your kernel was released for 5121), I can share some thoughts. It was running stable, maybe camera was a little bit worse than I expected. No overheat (was it because of a winter?), no lags, no anything. It was a clean and stable ROM. So...
But thanks for the idea of challenge like this. I have a guy with untouched X, so maybe he will tell something there.
over-heating
Hi Guys,
My Xperia-X is replaced in this may month in warranty.
After replaced I am feeling too much overheating.
From the first day, I have an update to latest may security update.
Now I don't know this over-heating is due to may update or again I got faulty hardware by Sony.
What about you guys do you feel over-heating especially after may update?
Hey folks, heads up June update is out and about..