I have seen many people talk about:Does Sony z3+ Dual support QC2.0?
Sony official responded that z3+ Dual doesn't support it.I was disappointed to heard this ,and i didn't believe it.So I use some useful chargers to test.
This is the result: (I'm sorry:crying:...because I don't know how to show pictures in here, So I only can upload attachments )
From the first picture(2.jpg) we can see the output is 8.95V 0.77A .(This charger is from Samsung S6 HK which indicated is 9V 1.67A 12W)
The second picture(4.jpg) we can see the output is 4.99V 1.03A.(This charger is from ipad which indicated is 5.1V 2.1A)
The third picture(1.jpg)we can see the output is 5.38V 1.43A.(This one is from Samsung Note3 orginal charger which show 5.3V 2A)
The last one(3.jpg)we can see that output is 8.94V 0.74A.(This is from Samsung S6 or Note4) I test it twice.
From up we can found z3+ Dual can support QC2.0,but electric current is smaller than standard. Maybe it is Sony official core limit it. Of course the current is changing by the rest of the battery. From 0-100% the current will decrease gradually. When the battery is near to 99%,it may be 0.1A or less.
In fact ,I use Aukey charger(output:5V/2A 9V/2A 12V/1.5A)to charge my phone. Usually it takes same time(2.2 hours) as using original charger.
Snapdragon 810 SoC absolutely has this feature. So i think it's easy to think that z3+ dual also support QC2.0.
Why the official tell us it doesn't support? I Think the Dual card version of the effect is not as good as a single card version of the good. In order to avoid trouble,they say directly that the dual card version is not supported.
By the way,a lot of people who use Samsung S6 tell me that QC2.0 has damaged their phone.I'm amazed but i don't have S6,so I can not prove it.
Thanks.Oh,there is a good news that this phone can root in 2 or 3 days. The Great Spirit are trying to crack it.
That is extremely disappointing. I chatted and I called yesterday and was told other wise. I spoke with the people on the phone which is listed in the attachment and they where not able to give me information since they are a USA based team. i called the International/worldwide? Sony support Team. And they confirmed that the dual sim z3+ and single sim does have QC2.0 out of the box.
Pretty crappy move by Sony lying to their customers like that.
I bought the dual sim version and It does not work out of the box, i though that they meant the phone just had the feature out of the box and that I had to purchase a certified qc2 adapter but I guess i was just being lied to. I will be returning the dual sim version and be getting the single version. Unless someone else has confirmed that they tried it with a certified qc2 adapter and are not getting the expected results?
Has anyone confirmed that QC2.0 work with the single sim version E6553 ?
Thank for you tests OP
Pulling 9v means it is QC compatible.
No it's not, I bought a qc adapter to test it out too and I get a full charge with the same amount of time as the stock adapter. A bit quicker but not even close to the advertisee speeds that are shown in the YouTube videos with the single sim version or other phones
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hoboscaca said:
No it's not, I bought a qc adapter to test it out too and I get a full charge with the same amount of time as the stock adapter. A bit quicker but not even close to the advertisee speeds that are shown in the YouTube videos with the single sim version or other phones
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I have said that the current is small,so whether you use which,the time it spends is close.
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That is extremely disappointing. I chatted and I called yesterday and was told other wise. I spoke with the people on the phone which is listed in the attachment and they where not able to give me information since they are a USA based team. i called the International/worldwide? Sony support Team. And they confirmed that the dual sim z3+ and single sim does have QC2.0 out of the box.
Pretty crappy move by Sony lying to their customers like that.
I bought the dual sim version and It does not work out of the box, i though that they meant the phone just had the feature out of the box and that I had to purchase a certified qc2 adapter but I guess i was just being lied to. I will be returning the dual sim version and be getting the single version. Unless someone else has confirmed that they tried it with a certified qc2 adapter and are not getting the expected results?
Has anyone confirmed that QC2.0 work with the single sim version E6553 ?
Thank for you tests OP
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Im sorry i don't have single version.But I think a single card version of the fast charge as a selling point should be true.
I went to the qualcomm website and found out the platinum qc2.0 adapter I bought from best buy is not even certified by qualcomm. I placed an order for the aukey qc2.0, amazon.com/dp/B00QEX83LA/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_n0rRvb36Y0Z9P which is certified.
I'll try it out with my dual z3+, and update u guys. I should be getting it this evening.
I already placed an order for the single sim version of the z3+, and will be returning my dual sim regardless. I know some people still have doubts so I'll post some results when I get the single sim too.
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Got the single sim and it charged from 0-100 in 1hr 40minutes with the Aukey QC2.0
The dual version charged from 0-100 in about 2hrs 30 minutes, same charger.
They are both brand new phones, I don't know if the charge times will change as the batteries get accustomed to the charge speed/input or age but those are the results now.
I will get an actual timer and sync it up to get a more accurate reading in the future, as of now it looks like the single sim does charge faster than the dual sim.
If u get different results, post them so we can compare.
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My single sim e6553 quick charges just fine with the moto turbo charger, but I'm thinking it might get throttled as at 102 degrees F it's charging at 1070mah
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May I ask, what app that is? And is the amperage just a guess (like most other tools) or some sensor data?
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May I ask, what app that is? And is the amperage just a guess (like most other tools) or some sensor data?
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Ampere, I don't know how it works.
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hoboscaca said:
Got the single sim and it charged from 0-100 in 1hr 40minutes with the Aukey QC2.0
The dual version charged from 0-100 in about 2hrs 30 minutes, same charger.
They are both brand new phones, I don't know if the charge times will change as the batteries get accustomed to the charge speed/input or age but those are the results now.
I will get an actual timer and sync it up to get a more accurate reading in the future, as of now it looks like the single sim does charge faster than the dual sim.
If u get different results, post them so we can compare.
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I thought Quick Charge is only quick from 0-85% (like for electric cars). >85% you're on slow mode.
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Ampere, I don't know how it works.
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you can also search for 'battery monitor widget' from 3c, that is more accurate, and the refresh rate can be set to 5 seconds.
I tried Aukey QC2.0 charger on my E6533 as well, not becoming faster, same or less than other 5V2.1A charger.
Seems Sony released a QC2.0 charger too, UCH-10, does anybody tested that with E6533?
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Got the single sim and it charged from 0-100 in 1hr 40minutes with the Aukey QC2.0
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I can do that with an Apple iPad charger and my Z3+ Single SIM in the same time. Either we both hadn't used QC2.0 or we did. I get my Aukey PA-T1 next Tuesday, then I'll test with that one.
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Just to stop the confusion and back and forth about this topic.
LG has confirmed that, yes, the G4 does support Quick Charge 2.0. The company tells Pocketnow that while it didn’t set out with plans to support the feature, the inclusion of Qualcomm’s Snapdragon 808 processor in the G4 means that the phone does technically support it. The bad news is that the G4’s in-box wall charger doesn’t support Quick Charge 2.0, so you’re going to need a new wall wart — such as the Motorola Turbo Charger — if you want to juice up your G4 in a hurry.
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http://androidandme.com/2015/05/news/lg-g4-does-support-qualcomms-quick-charge-2-0-technology/
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Ok thanks for the confirmation.....
Are there many manufacturers which provides the 2.0 charger with the device?
Yeah the issue was it out of the box it has neither.
To wireless charge you need a case or a sticker. To fast charge you need to buy your own charger. So when a reviewer gets the phone out of the box neither of these are available and that's where the confusion came from. Good conformation nevertheless.
I'm glad there's a thread about it, hopefully it doesn't drive the price higher on the device once officially released They are competing to get Samsung and Apple users for the most part. All these favorable reviews and positive feedback Internet Wide should do the trick.
Honestly I was aiming towards the Galaxy S6 myself but am glad I held off until the G4 was officially out. Unless there's a serious problem with the the device I am 99.9% sure that this will be my next smartphone.
Even current Galaxy S6 users are looking at the G4 and that is saying a lot.
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Just to stop the confusion and back and forth about this topic.
LG has confirmed that, yes, the G4 does support Quick Charge 2.0. The company tells Pocketnow that while it didn’t set out with plans to support the feature, the inclusion of Qualcomm’s Snapdragon 808 processor in the G4 means that the phone does technically support it. The bad news is that the G4’s in-box wall charger doesn’t support Quick Charge 2.0, so you’re going to need a new wall wart — such as the Motorola Turbo Charger — if you want to juice up your G4 in a hurry.
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http://androidandme.com/2015/05/news/lg-g4-does-support-qualcomms-quick-charge-2-0-technology/
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Yeah but the weird thing is I have the nexus 2.0 charger and even with that it doesn't quick charge like my nexus.
I am thinking it will be a software update with changes to the kernel.
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Yeah but the weird thing is I have the nexus 2.0 charger and even with that it doesn't quick charge like my nexus.
I am thinking it will be a software update with changes to the kernel.
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Its possible, that reviewer on the video Ive posted could have already updated the software. Do you have another quick charge cable you can try it on, maybe a Samsung one?
LG was surprised themselves its working on their units.
"LG has confirmed that, yes, the G4 does support Quick Charge 2.0. The company tells Pocketnow that while it didn’t set out with plans to support the feature, the inclusion of Qualcomm’s Snapdragon 808 processor in the G4 means that the phone does technically support it."
I read that LG said that Quick Charge will be enabled in the software the G4 is officially released with. Since the reviewers have pre-release software they don't have it.
The Android Central podcast said they tried the Motorola Turbo Charger with the G4, but the phone said an unknown charger was connected and to charge at full speed use the LG charger.
So can someone provide a link to turbo chargers or manufacturer and model of charges that support this?
The reason why i assume is that the Kernel doesn't have the feature integrated yet or it isn't enabled
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.method private setQuickCharging(I)V
is in com.lge.services.jar.out\smali\com\android\server\power\PowerManagerServiceEx.smali which i found when comparing the G4 with the G3 frameworks, it is located on line 3100 if you wan't to check it out, however i ain't sure if this is somehow "disabeld" or if it just lies there and waiting for it to be enabled.
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So can someone provide a link to turbo chargers or manufacturer and model of charges that support this?
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Here ya go. Several including car chargers on Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/Quick-Charge-Certified-Watt-Charger/dp/B00QFVRV1O
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00P9UILUM/ref=pd_aw_sim_107_1?refRID=13PDYX9KCCQVK1NCH6ZB
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The reason why i assume is that the Kernel doesn't have the feature integrated yet or it isn't enabled
Code:
.method private setQuickCharging(I)V
is in com.lge.services.jar.out\smali\com\android\server\power\PowerManagerServiceEx.smali which i found when comparing the G4 with the G3 frameworks, it is located on line 3100 if you wan't to check it out, however i ain't sure if this is somehow "disabeld" or if it just lies there and waiting for it to be enabled.
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So can we all agree - at least in USA - that QC is not actually turned on yet. I kind of thought it would be on, since the acknowledged the chip/phone was capable, but we need to buy our own adaptors. Well, I bought a few QC 2.0 plugs, but I'd say they are doing nothing (I have never had QC 2.0 so not entirely sure what to look for other than "faster" charging - which does not seem to happen). Apparently they acknowledged too late in the shipping cycle to actually update the device to accept QC 2.0. BTW, I have seen companies, even in the ship cycle, send an update to devices so when you got them, they updated when started up.
I've been using my 2.0 charger that I bought from amazon for my Z3 and it is indeed working. phone charges at slightly faster than a percentage point a minute.
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So can we all agree - at least in USA - that QC is not actually turned on yet. I kind of thought it would be on, since the acknowledged the chip/phone was capable, but we need to buy our own adaptors. Well, I bought a few QC 2.0 plugs, but I'd say they are doing nothing (I have never had QC 2.0 so not entirely sure what to look for other than "faster" charging - which does not seem to happen). Apparently they acknowledged too late in the shipping cycle to actually update the device to accept QC 2.0. BTW, I have seen companies, even in the ship cycle, send an update to devices so when you got them, they updated when started up.
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Yup its just not active. And the new M feature doze. is a joke its in the framework of Android 5.0 of both G3 and G4 not sure if active though
So.. I'm confused. I got the phone last night and it took like 9 hours to fully charge to 100%.
I don't get my QC 2.0 charger until next week, but ... is it confirmed that it isn't activated?
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So.. I'm confused. I got the phone last night and it took like 9 hours to fully charge to 100%.
I don't get my QC 2.0 charger until next week, but ... is it confirmed that it isn't activated?
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No simply that the phone's chip supports it but you need the proper charger for it.
It shouldn't take 9 hours even with the out of the box charger, more like 2 hours maximum.
The European H815 will charge at 9V, but the LG G4 draws nothing like the current which other Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 devices do.
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No simply that the phone's chip supports it but you need the proper charger for it.
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Phew. Okay, I ordered the AUKEY 2.0 QC charger from Amazon.
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It shouldn't take 9 hours even with the out of the box charger, more like 2 hours maximum.
The European H815 will charge at 9V, but the LG G4 draws nothing like the current which other Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 devices do.
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I'm reading from other threads that it's normal to have slow charges the first few times..
Is this not accurate? That was literally my first charge.
No phone I have ever owned has charged slowly the first few times.
If you are using the stock cable/charger something is either faulty or they just didn't handshake together properly. I have had that happen a few times, not regularly though.
Like I say using the standard charger it should take around 120mins, you will only save 20mins or so at the moment by using an Aukey charger.
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Like I say using the standard charger it should take around 120mins, you will only save 20mins or so at the moment by using an Aukey charger.
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Thanks for the information. Is it safe to assume that this is just a guess or an estimate, since you haven't actually used a QC 2.0 charger on the G4? Or is this proven by your device?
The only reason why I question is because there are a lot of G4 users on QC 2.0 chargers who are stating that they are having great experience with their charge times in comparison to the stock charger.
By stating that it's a 100 min with a QC 2.0 vs 120 min with a 1.8V charger, you're not talking about much of a difference.
Does Priv support Qualcomm Quick Charge?
GeekEric said:
Does Priv support Qualcomm Quick Charge?
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Yes
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Yes
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How can you confirm this? I don't find blackberry official confirm this news.
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How can you confirm this? I don't find blackberry official confirm this news.
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https://www.qualcomm.com/news/snapdragon/2015/10/27/first-blackberry-android-device-has-privacy-mind
Qualcomm confirmed it officially. Says it charges to 50% in 40 minutes btw.
i have the phone and yes it does.
I heard it supports it but for some reason they do not include the quick charger in the box.
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I heard it supports it but for some reason they do not include the quick charger in the box.
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I got mine through AT&T (so it's branded) and I'm pretty sure (I used it once to add juice before going out) that it charged extra quick. I'll test it today and see what's up. Will report back.
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I got mine from shopblackberry online us store & mine has quick charge. It takes only 1.5 hours to go from 0 to 100%
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I got mine from shopblackberry online us store & mine has quick charge. It takes only 1.5 hours to go from 0 to 100%
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I can confirm. Got mine from shopblackberry as well and I have quick charge and wireless charging.
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TronSmart QC2.0 Cert Charger
Guys,
I have the above charger and when my phone had 12% battery left, I connected charger and when in standby, the bar showed 1 and 40 min to fully charged. By the way, when tested with Ampere app it shows 2120 mA while charging. Does this sound correct when using QC2.0 Certified Charger?
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The charger that came in the box quick charges. I got mine from my carrier, used the accessories from the box, and I get 1% to 100% in 1 hour and 30ish minutes.
I use a Samsung adapted fast charger from my Samsung s6 edge and it charges very quickly
does anyone know if there are any multiple usb - at least one QC 2.0 and maybe 2-4 "regular" usb ports chargers out there that are either UL Lister or CSA compliant?
thanks
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B010URM9CO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
This charger works fine. I use it every day.
To answer your question though: http://www.amazon.ca/Qualcomm-Certi...170571&sr=1-4&keywords=aukey+quick+charge+2.0
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http://www.amazon.ca/Qualcomm-Certi...170571&sr=1-6&keywords=aukey+quick+charge+2.0
It suppose to support quick charge.
It has the slowest quick charge out of any QC 2.0 devices I've owned.
1.5 hours to reach 100 from 20%? that's not even close to something like LG G4 which uses the same chip and the battery is only 400mah larger on the priv.
It does support quick charge but it doesn't work right. For one, the quick charge time is slow compared to even older phones like the nexus 6. The other issue is that quick charging causes overheating which I suspect is why the phone charges so slow.
Disappointed that the xperia z5 charger only has an output of 1500mA. I've read on forums where some xperia z5 owners were given the 1800mA (I think) out of the box. My previous Samsung Galaxy S4 had an output of 2100mA so I'm wondering if I used that charger can the xperia z5 take advantage of the extra mA?
Nope I had to use another charger to get the fast charge up and running
Still with any fast charger i get 1600ma to the z5, while my s5 juiced 1800ma
How are you testing to get these figures?
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How are you testing to get these figures?
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Ampere from play store.
I use that also I think to make a claim like that you need to take all scenario like the phone will drop rate the more it's charged. Mine currently says 1560mah but max is 1610mah that's starting at 77% it would slow down again at 80% I also think that software tests will never be 100% accurate just like all these software benchmark tests that are available.
I think what I'm trying to say without offending anyone is the stock sony charger would be able to achieve 1800ma
Also things to take into consideration is things like if the phone is on and what apps are also using battery
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How are you testing to get these figures?
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I'm just reading from what my charger is telling me. Output @ 1500mA on Sony and 2000mA on a Samsung
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I use that also I think to make a claim like that you need to take all scenario like the phone will drop rate the more it's charged. Mine currently says 1560mah but max is 1610mah that's starting at 77% it would slow down again at 80% I also think that software tests will never be 100% accurate just like all these software benchmark tests that are available.
I think what I'm trying to say without offending anyone is the stock sony charger would be able to achieve 1800ma
Also things to take into consideration is things like if the phone is on and what apps are also using battery
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Can you tell me what the specified output is on your charger? Mine has 1500mA so I doubt you can pull 1800 if it's not designed to do it. My question is that can the Z5 take advantage of a 2000mA charger from Samsung or any other manufacturer.
Ah I apologise I don't actually have a new charger only an older charger I'll have a look at the rating later. It would however accept the Samsung charger I'll have a dig around for the ratings in the data sheets
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Yes u can use 2A chargers wont hurt your phone or battery.
Try it and make comparison how long it takes to fully charge ur phone.
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I'm just reading from what my charger is telling me. Output @ 1500mA on Sony and 2000mA on a Samsung
Can you tell me what the specified output is on your charger? Mine has 1500mA so I doubt you can pull 1800 if it's not designed to do it. My question is that can the Z5 take advantage of a 2000mA charger from Samsung or any other manufacturer.
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My charger is UCH10 and says output 1800mah thanks for this thread I might actually get a higher powered charger now as I never looked at that before
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My charger is UCH10 and says output 1800mah thanks for this thread I might actually get a higher powered charger now as I never looked at that before
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I'm going to use my old samsung galaxy s4 charger in that case. I have no idea why Sony is supplying a mediocre 1.5A charger. Even the 1.8A is still too slow for the current size of batteries in smartphones
I didn't even get a charger with mine as O2 are too cheap to provide one.
I'm using Samsung S6 fast charger and LG G4 normal charger.
Fast charging works very well.
I actually use a Blackberry 2.0 Amp charger, and it definitely charges all my phones (Z5,Z3,Z1) faster than the stock Sony charger. My Sony charger says 1.5 Amp and it's ok, just not as quick.
The Blackberry charger has the added advantage of having a nice long lead, as opposed to the short lead which Sony provides. It is a dedicated charger only though, so you can't use it for file transfers.
Its kind of weird that other users are reaching 2.0A of juice from their chargers, while some are not.
Unfortunately for me, QC does not work. I recently bought a Tronsmart TS-QC1W usb wall charger. it is Qualcomm QC 2.0 certified, and it did not make any difference because the Max Ampere I was only getting is 1540 amp. I also happen to have a power watt meter where I can measure the watts this charger is pulling in from the wall, and it is just getting ~8 watts (meaning 5V x 1.5A = ~8 watts). I only thing I like and is useful with my tronsmart is, I love the long thick usb cable that came with it.
Just incase a dev or anyone is working or curious in this issue, I am using:
Sony Xperia Z5 dual (E6683)
firmware 32.0.A.6.66 (stock, havent updated to the most recent)
Sony UCH20 stock charger
Tronsmart TS-QC1W Qualcomm QC 2.0 certified
Charging Time from 0%-100% = 2rs 15mins
next thing I would try and do is, update my firmware, and hoping that would enable QC for my Z5. Or if that fails, I hope Sony is currently aware of this and that its upcoming marshmallow update will enable QC 2.0.
(BTW, I can confirm that ALL Z5 Premium can reach and pass 2 AMP of juice from a fast charger. I dont have any data from Z5 compact though).
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Its kind of weird that other users are reaching 2.0A of juice from their chargers, while some are not.
Unfortunately for me, QC does not work. I recently bought a Tronsmart TS-QC1W usb wall charger. it is Qualcomm QC 2.0 certified, and it did not make any difference because the Max Ampere I was only getting is 1540 amp. I also happen to have a power watt meter where I can measure the watts this charger is pulling in from the wall, and it is just getting ~8 watts (meaning 5V x 1.5A = ~8 watts). I only thing I like and is useful with my tronsmart is, I love the long thick usb cable that came with it.
Just incase a dev or anyone is working or curious in this issue, I am using:
Sony Xperia Z5 dual (E6683)
firmware 32.0.A.6.66 (stock, havent updated to the most recent)
Sony UCH20 stock charger
Tronsmart TS-QC1W Qualcomm QC 2.0 certified
Charging Time from 0%-100% = 2rs 15mins
next thing I would try and do is, update my firmware, and hoping that would enable QC for my Z5. Or if that fails, I hope Sony is currently aware of this and that its upcoming marshmallow update will enable QC 2.0.
(BTW, I can confirm that ALL Z5 Premium can reach and pass 2 AMP of juice from a fast charger. I dont have any data from Z5 compact though).
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The Z3 Compact series has gone through these same discoveries. Sony (for some reason) doesn't FULLY support QC 2.0 charging speeds. You'll only see about 1.5 amps when charging with the phone on, and maybe a bump to 1.8 when the phone is powered off (not just screen off). Because of this, 2 amp tablet chargers are effectively just as capable as the expensive quick chargers.
To all of you who are using charger other than stock for some extra amps are ruining the battery ? life of your device.
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To all of you who are using charger other than stock for some extra amps are ruining the battery ? life of your device.
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Where's the proof of that?
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Where's the proof of that?
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Because phone can't draw more current than set by manufacturer, doesn't matter whatever the charger you use. But using a higher rating charger can cause more heating, which actually degrade the battery life as it accelerate the reaction inside the battery because of rise in temperature.
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Because phone can't draw more current than set by manufacturer, doesn't matter whatever the charger you use. But using a higher rating charger can cause more heating, which actually degrade the battery life as it accelerate the reaction inside the battery because of rise in temperature.
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There is still no proof that it will cause heating and degrade the battery life though. The phone will only ask for so much draw that it can handle from the charger I'm all good for people correcting something however you need to provide proper proof to show it is a fact
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It is well known and has been proven many times that the faster you charge a battery the hotter it gets and less charge cycles it lasts.
Sometimes it might be necessary to do a quick charge, but i don't think it is a good idea to QC your batteries every day.
hey guys, there is a new rumor actually a photo that says that there is a new "super charger" that will charge your phone from 0-100% in less than 20 minutes....don't know if it's just a troll or true....what you think?
We'll find out tomorrow.
Seems like a no for that rumor, currently oppo has the best charger with its vooc thingamajiggy. Does 20watts and i think the battery is split into 4 sections so each section is charged at 5watts and at much lower temperatures.
Do we know yet which fast charging technology the S8 supports? Quick Charge 2.0, 3.0, 4.0, or USB Type C Power Delivery? Something else?
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it seems it uses the same charger as the S7...so quick charge 2.0...i am not mad...but they could of used 3.0....i am sure SD835 can get 4.0 but the EXYNOS can't....it's samsung fault
Qc3 isn't any quicker, still stuck at 18watts. They compared an s7 to a phone with quickcharge 3 and the s7 still charged faster.
is the fast charging between the S6 and S7 any different?
"Qualcomm® Quick Charge™ 4 is designed to deliver lightning-fast charging in devices featuring Snapdragon mobile platforms. In just 5 minutes of charging, you get 5 hours of talk time.* It is also Type-C compliant and offers compatibility across other Quick Charge accessories and mobile devices."
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/battery-life
freaking samsung better not remove qc4.0 like they removed qc3.0 from note7 .
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"Qualcomm® Quick Charge™ 4 is designed to deliver lightning-fast charging in devices featuring Snapdragon mobile platforms. In just 5 minutes of charging, you get 5 hours of talk time.* It is also Type-C compliant and offers compatibility across other Quick Charge accessories and mobile devices."
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/battery-life
freaking samsung better not remove qc4.0 like they removed qc3.0 from note7 .
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Gotta believe they would've made a big deal of it at the press conference if it indeed had this. Perhaps the Note 7 debacle has made them extra cautious with anything battery-related.
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I would imagine if the Exynos SoC can't rival QC4.0 on the Snapdragon then they will ensure the same experience for customers in all regions by limiting the Snapdragon charging speeds to meet Exynos, otherwise people will seek out the Snapdragon versions specifically.
I'm interested to know though as I have a USB charging hub at home with a QC2.0 port, might consider an upgrade to 3.0 if it's supported
yeah, they will keep QC 2.0 for both....
If Samsung is so worried about keeping playing field even amongst variants why don't we (U.S.) get 6 GB of RAM and 128 GB storage as reported for Chinese unit.
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To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the Samsung Galaxy Note 10 can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.
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Can any1 tell me how much time he need to fully charge note10 (not plus). From 10-15% to 100% i need more than a hour and 20min with stock charger, and just 3min more with charger from s8. Friend fully charge n10+ in about hour with stock charger and he have 800mAh bigger battery.
I have exynos n10View attachment 4818513View attachment 4818514
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Can any1 tell me how much time he need to fully charge note10 (not plus). From 10-15% to 100% i need more than a hour and 20min with stock charger, and just 3min more with charger from s8. Friend fully charge n10+ in about hour with stock charger and he have 800mAh bigger battery.
I have exynos n10View attachment 4818513View attachment 4818514
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I confirm your conclusions. I have NOTE 10+ and the charging time is also about 1 hour. At the same time, my wife has a NOTE 10 model, and her phone charges in about 1 hour 20 minutes. This really looks a little strange because:
1. The Note 10+ battery has a capacity greater than Note 10.
2. Both phones have the same EP-TA800 charger!
It seems strange, but it is.
@iOr_s tnx for sharing. And yeah...and I'm pissed because of that! Bouth selling as fast charge capable but for note 10 that doesn't woark!!
Someone should tell this to samsung mobile division! I don't know on which address to write
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@iOr_s tnx for sharing. And yeah...and I'm pissed because of that! Bouth selling as fast charge capable but for note 10 that doesn't woark!!
Someone should tell this to samsung mobile division! I don't know on which address to write
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Note 10 has fast charging! Please go to Setting ... - Fast cable charging and unmark it. After that charging time will be changed for both models. In this case Note 10 charges in 3 hours instead of 1 hour 20 minutes. So Note 10 has fast charging mode as Samsung declared it.
Another thing is that fast charging is realized in Note 10 plus much more efficiently, include super fast charging of 45 watts.
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@iOr_s yeah it have, but not fast as note10+, that's the point! Note+ can utilize 25w charger that came in box, note10 not (about the same charging speed with old 15w and new 25w chargers).
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Ok, so with my new 45w USB C to C wall charger from 0 to 100 takes an hour, flat! no frills. no lies.
Galaxy Note 10+. 45watt Super Fast Wall Charger, directly from Samsung with the $150 credit. I would suggest getting a few of these to carry around with you wherever you go. Now you know how long it takes to go from 0 to 100.
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Ok, so with my new 45w USB C to C wall charger from 0 to 100 takes an hour, flat! no frills. no lies.
Galaxy Note 10+. 45watt Super Fast Wall Charger, directly from Samsung with the $150 credit. I would suggest getting a few of these to carry around with you wherever you go. Now you know how long it takes to go from 0 to 100.
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Yes, great, congrats!
But that cannot help our friend @Proday. Note 10 does not support 45W fast charging.
By the way, the charging time for Note 10 Plus using the EP-TA800 adapter is also about 1 hour.
And on the side, it is much easier to carry the compact EP-TA800 with you wherever you go, than 45W fast charger
@iOr_s yeah, that is eaven better if you (and my neighbor here) have same charging time with 25w as user with 45w [emoji849][emoji56]
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@iOr_s yeah, that is eaven better if you (and my neighbor here) have same charging time with 25w as user with 45w [emoji849][emoji56]
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In fact, there is a slight time difference. It is approximately 15 minutes ).
On the one hand, it makes up 25-30% (!!!) of the total charging time. But on the other hand, it's only about 15 minutes
And for me personally this is not so important. And for this reason I have not bought a 45W charger yet
Horrible battery life for the note 10 , need to charge the device twice a day, not acceptable
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Horrible battery life for the note 10 , need to charge the device twice a day, not acceptable
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what is your scenario of using ? youtube, games, phone calls etc
Hi, since we are talking abt charging, I have one on Wireless.
The included Note 10+ power adaptor (EP-TA800) cannot FAST Wireless Charge when connected to my 2 older Wireless charger stands (EP-NG930, EP-PG950) [only Standard, slow Wireless Charging]... BUT if I swap out the 25W adaptor with an older unit (EP-TA20UWE), I CAN Fast Wireless Charge with both above-said charger stands.
My question: Is this normal per Samsung's current support for only USB PD & dropping of AFC charging standard (read this somewhere but not fully across the technical implications of this)? i.e.- I will need a new wireless charging stand in order to FAST wireless charge with provided 25W adaptor?
Bit of a bummer if true since that's like Samsung abandoning our older accessories. Appreciate any inputs u might have. Tks.
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Hi, since we are talking abt charging, I have one on Wireless.
The included Note 10+ power adaptor (EP-TA800) cannot FAST Wireless Charge when connected to my 2 older Wireless charger stands (EP-NG930, EP-PG950) [only Standard, slow Wireless Charging]... BUT if I swap out the 25W adaptor with an older unit (EP-TA20UWE), I CAN Fast Wireless Charge with both above-said charger stands.
My question: Is this normal per Samsung's current support for only USB PD & dropping of AFC charging standard (read this somewhere but not fully across the technical implications of this)? i.e.- I will need a new wireless charging stand in order to FAST wireless charge with provided 25W adaptor?
Bit of a bummer if true since that's like Samsung abandoning our older accessories. Appreciate any inputs u might have. Tks.
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Got a response from Samsung today. They confirmed that the included 25W adapter will not enable Fast Wireless Charging on older Samsung stands for reasons associated with power & voltage regulation. That means if Fast Wireless charging is important to you, you'll have to pony up and get one of the new Samsung stands.
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Of course that you need to pay for new! But it is eaven worse when you pay for something that doesn't work (25w on note10)!
On which address you wrote to samsung @zhudm66
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Of course that you need to pay for new! But it is eaven worse when you pay for something that doesn't work (25w on note10)!
On which address you wrote to samsung @zhudm66
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Sorry to hear that! Which brings me to the point of being more transparent about adoption of new standards (and what legacy ones are dropped).. right? Fast Wireless charging on older stands not supported... okay, maybe not such a big deal but you'd think they'd be a little more upfront about it instead of giving us the big run around.
To answer yr Q- I contacted them via Live Chat on Samsung Members app, then they called me back.
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Got a response from Samsung today. They confirmed that the included 25W adapter will not enable Fast Wireless Charging on older Samsung stands for reasons associated with power & voltage regulation. That means if Fast Wireless charging is important to you, you'll have to pony up and get one of the new Samsung stands.
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I have 2 dual stands wireless chargers from Samsung. 1 is 10W and the other is 15 W. They BOTH show fast charging for me. They both came with their own power adaptors out of the box. The 10W comes with the adaptive fast charging, and the 15W came with the same 25W charger that the Note 7 was able use. Did you lose your adaptor?
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Charges my plus in one hr and 10 mins from 10 to full, and beats all my past devices.
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after updating to one ui 2.1 i have noticed my note10 plus take more time to charge then before this update (tried between 40%to 85%) but bettery time incteased from 4.3min per 1% to 4.8min...
anyone else with same situation
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after updating to one ui 2.1 i have noticed my note10 plus take more time to charge then before this update (tried between 40%to 85%) but bettery time incteased from 4.3min per 1% to 4.8min...
anyone else with same situation
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me too, and super fast charging indicator does not appear anymore. just showing as fast charging. now it takes about 1hour 15mins to full charge my phone. i used Ampere application and it showed that my phone is charging at maximum rate of 1700mA only. by right it should be getting around 2400mA++