I remember reading somewhere that root can be achieved [with KNOX 0x0] on the Note4 but only until restart when you had to root it again? Is this possible?
And whats the progress, any news, anyone working on permanent root on the Note 4 with out tripping Knox?
I've read about kingsroot, have someone tested it?
It does not work for lollipop, while it seems to work for kitkat, so you should downgrade before testing this app.
I don't know if it can be considered a safe practice, since the app, to perform the exploit, requires your data to be sent to a Chinese server and you will not get superuser, but the corresponding Chinese app. Anyway, some say they have eventually been able to remove such app and replace it with superuser. It is not something I tried by myself, so please do not take it for granted but it should be possible to flash lollipop by using mobile odin, while still keeping knox 0x0 and root.
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Hi. Universal Root de la Vega's threat was clsoed and Op recommended us to use VRoot instead.
I found this Chinese VRoot and it looks very easy to do. Please see link below (in Chinese language, but you can use Google to translate)
http://www.mgyun.com/vroot
I just want to confirm if anyone had tried this and if it is KNOX 0x0 Root?
Thanks.
It do work
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2502967
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Does it work on the new MJ4 rom workout triggering knox?
klau1 said:
Does it work on the new MJ4 rom workout triggering knox?
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Just got my N3 yesterday, mine is MJ7... Will VRoot work with the latest OTA already installed? I've done quite a bit of searching on getting this thing rooted but xda "banned" KINGO cause everyone is freaking out about some Chinese server or exploit threat or whatever, supposedly La Vega won't work after MJ7 OTA... Even though I've been rooting a while, this all has me confused on what really works and what just made it to the forums first but might not work... Any help with legit root and recovery methods would be MUCH APPRECIATED!
az_biker said:
Just got my N3 yesterday, mine is MJ7... Will VRoot work with the latest OTA already installed? I've done quite a bit of searching on getting this thing rooted but xda "banned" KINGO cause everyone is freaking out about some Chinese server or exploit threat or whatever, supposedly La Vega won't work after MJ7 OTA... Even though I've been rooting a while, this all has me confused on what really works and what just made it to the forums first but might not work... Any help with legit root and recovery methods would be MUCH APPRECIATED!
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If you're worried about Chinese root method than you better stay away form vroot. Even the interface is in Chinese. Kingoapp, has addressed the concerns that some people had with their latest version, 1.1.2. You can check out their facebook page where they explain it all.
Understand that if you plan on using a custom recovery or ROM it will trip Knox and vroot and Kingoapp are probably not the way you want to go. You might look at CF Root instead.
mvansomeren said:
If you're worried about Chinese root method than you better stay away form vroot. Even the interface is in Chinese. Kingoapp, has addressed the concerns that some people had with their latest version, 1.1.2. You can check out their facebook page where they explain it all.
Understand that if you plan on using a custom recovery or ROM it will trip Knox and vroot and Kingoapp are probably not the way you want to go. You might look at CF Root instead.
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Where did CF Root say it's method won't trip KNOX? serious question.
RDLV is the only one isn't it?
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Where did CF Root say it's method won't trip KNOX? serious question.
RDLV is the only one isn't it?
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CF Root will trip knox. What I was saying is that if you want a custom recovery or rom, you might as well go with CF Root because it is going to trip knox anyway. vroot and Kingoapp doesn't trip knox because you don't get a custom recovery or rom as part of the root. They let you use apps that require root and do modification on the stock rom (if you know what you're doing).
Will De Vega Work?
so will the de la vega root method work for the latest VRUBMJ7 update? If not, what other root method will work that will not trip KNOX? Thanks in advanced
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CF Root will trip knox. What I was saying is that if you want a custom recovery or rom, you might as well go with CF Root because it is going to trip knox anyway. vroot and Kingoapp doesn't trip knox because you don't get a custom recovery or rom as part of the root. They let you use apps that require root and do modification on the stock rom (if you know what you're doing).
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So even with the canadian version unlocked bootloader you cannot install TWRP without tripping knox? Guess i can just use TBU to backup everything instead.
If you do root with one of these methods be careful. They are a security risk. I'd use mobile Odin to reflash my stock firmware after rooting and maybe even factory reset, just to be sure that I'd nuked any naughty apps. Mobile Odin will allow you to retain root.
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vichet007 said:
Hi. Universal Root de la Vega's threat was clsoed and Op recommended us to use VRoot instead.
I found this Chinese VRoot and it looks very easy to do. Please see link below (in Chinese language, but you can use Google to translate)
http://www.mgyun.com/vroot
I just want to confirm if anyone had tried this and if it is KNOX 0x0 Root?
Thanks.
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English
http://www.mgyun.com/en/GetVRoot
It still was NOT easy to use, but I can confirm positively that it can work and in my case did not trip knox. I had to reboot the phone manually at one point because it appeared stuck and I tried a 2nd time. The 2nd time the windows app rebooted the phone and it did get rooted.
UPDATE:
Thanks to cubarican84, I used the following SIMPLE solution to clean up the chinese superuser mess: http://www.w0lfdroid.com/2013/11/How-to-Remove-Replace-VRoot-Chinese-superuser-with-SuperSU.html?m=1
Has anyone run across this who have upgraded to 4.4.x?
Apparently, in the version of KitKat released by Samsung, without a 3rd party chip installed in the accessory, the accessory won't be recognized by the ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=49696039 (yes, it's my original post, just asking the question here as well).
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Has anyone run across this who have upgraded to 4.4.x?
Apparently, in the version of KitKat released by Samsung, without a 3rd party chip installed in the accessory, the accessory won't be recognized by the ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=49696039 (yes, it's my original post, just asking the question here as well).
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Yup, but it has been fixed if you have root >>> here
Will updating/flashing Framework require you to trip knox though? Meaning, does it require a different recovery? Not clear in the link you provided. Sorry, I'm not an expert at all on framework and how to get it on the devices.
sanjsrik said:
Will updating/flashing Framework require you to trip knox though? Meaning, does it require a different recovery? Not clear in the link you provided. Sorry, I'm not an expert at all on framework and how to get it on the devices.
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Well rooting (unless you are on MJ2 firmware) will trip your KNOX I'm afraid but no custom recovery is required only root access, - but if you were rooted, then it's just a case of installing Xposed framework (pretty much just an .apk install) - then open the app, go to downloads and find that mod, hit install and reboot and that's it pretty much
rooting <> tripping Knox
radicalisto said:
Well rooting (unless you are on MJ2 firmware) will trip your KNOX I'm afraid but no custom recovery is required only root access, - but if you were rooted, then it's just a case of installing Xposed framework (pretty much just an .apk install) - then open the app, go to downloads and find that mod, hit install and reboot and that's it pretty much
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Not a true statement at all that rooting will trip Knox. I used Kingo and haven't tripped Knox at all. I'm just asking if flashing Xposed framewwork requires a different recovery and bootloader which WILL trip Knox as it requires a new recovery. However, I have 0x0 root so, no, rooting does NOT imply you've tripped Knox at all.
I just looked up Xposed and was able to install and run the APK and able to install a few of the add-ons.
Nice. And all that without tripping Knox, hmm.
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Not a true statement at all that rooting will trip Knox. I used Kingo and haven't tripped Knox at all. I'm just asking if flashing Xposed framewwork requires a different recovery and bootloader which WILL trip Knox as it requires a new recovery. However, I have 0x0 root so, no, rooting does NOT imply you've tripped Knox at all.
I just looked up Xposed and was able to install and run the APK and able to install a few of the add-ons.
Nice. And all that without tripping Knox, hmm.
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Well usually rooting any firmware past MJ2 trips KNOX especially if using CF Root, I cannot comment on Kingo as it was banned and still is banned on XDA afaik, so never had any dealings with it. Plus I tripped my KNOX straight away. Also, from what I have read around, after you reboot when installing certain root methods, it'll trip KNOX automatically (whether yours has/.will is a different story)
Hi,
I would like to know if there is any known way at the moment to get a rooted kitkat 4.4.2 firmware without tripping knox. I'm momentarily running MKE 4.3, German csc I think. I'm aware of saferoot for this firmware, but I would like to know if there's something like it for official kitkat, or if it is possible to root my 4.3 and then upgrade via mobile odin and inject root via everroot everroot without tripping knox. If not I'll just update via OTA and root via another method but if it's possible I'd like to keep knox for now
wootyv said:
Hi,
I would like to know if there is any known way at the moment to get a rooted kitkat 4.4.2 firmware without tripping knox. I'm momentarily running MKE 4.3, German csc I think. I'm aware of saferoot for this firmware, but I would like to know if there's something like it for official kitkat, or if it is possible to root my 4.3 and then upgrade via mobile odin and inject root via everroot everroot without tripping knox. If not I'll just update via OTA and root via another method but if it's possible I'd like to keep knox for now
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No, uptil now there is no such method developed. Check on Kingo root website whether they ve updated to root 4.4.2 firmware.
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No, uptil now there is no such method developed. Check on Kingo root website whether they ve updated to root 4.4.2 firmware.
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Oké, Thanks anyway
I don't really trust kingoroot as I thought that it had spyware installed, just as vroot, but then I heard about saferoot and I I was hoping I could keep root via mobile odin, but too bad. I'll just just root via cf-root then
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Oké, Thanks anyway
I don't really trust kingoroot as I thought that it had spyware installed, just as vroot, but then I heard about saferoot and I I was hoping I could keep root via mobile odin, but too bad. I'll just just root via cf-root then
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Not any spywarez but many of them reported that they lost their IMEI number.If you are on kitkat ,wait for stability updates n then root. Hit thnx if helpd.
Towelroot. by geohot
Does not trip the knox counter..but don't expect to use custom recoveries. It is a simple root only.
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Towelroot. by geohot
Does not trip the knox counter..but don't expect to use custom recoveries. It is a simple root only.
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Thanks! I read about it in the featured articles but I wasn't sure it would work or not. I was just planning to use the root to clean the ROM up a bit to free up some system memory and RAM and make some apps system apps, better backups and fiddle a bit with my storage, and maybe using some modules, do you know if using Xposed trips knox?
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Thanks! I read about it in the featured articles but I wasn't sure it would work or not. I was just planning to use the root to clean the ROM up a bit to free up some system memory and RAM and make some apps system apps, better backups and fiddle a bit with my storage, and maybe using some modules, do you know if using Xposed trips knox?
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Xposed doesn't... but I would be weary of modules that perform bootloader or deep system changes
Titanium Backup.. and use backup app and then remove/disable etc
Just be careful... if the knox counter is v important to you.
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Xposed doesn't... but I would be weary of modules that perform bootloader or deep system changes
Titanium Backup.. and use backup app and then remove/disable etc
Just be careful... if the knox counter is v important to you.
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It's not that important to me, I just don't want to trip it if I don't have to, if I need to trip it for something I really want to do I don't have a problem with it , it's not like use knox thanks you very much
wootyv said:
It's not that important to me, I just don't want to trip it if I don't have to, if I need to trip it for something I really want to do I don't have a problem with it , it's not like use knox thanks you very much
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Actually KNOX is very important for warranty issues. If you dont have warranty then I wouldnt worry about it. If you DO have warranty then do not mess with KNOX-tripping root methods.
Hi,
I just got my S5 and i want to root.
i had S4 before and i used CF-Auto root.
but i was looking at some threads and they were saying that there is Knox Free root?
please can someone guide me to root.
i dont really care about knox but i prefer if its still 0x0
Check this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2843044
aniqpirzada said:
Hi,
I just got my S5 and i want to root.
i had S4 before and i used CF-Auto root.
but i was looking at some threads and they were saying that there is Knox Free root?
please can someone guide me to root.
i dont really care about knox but i prefer if its still 0x0
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If you want to flash custom recovery`s or custom roms KNOX will be tripped unfortunately
So, to sum up, if you want to root without tripping KNOX, you need to stay stock and not even install custom recovery. if you plan to install custom recovery, no need to go though the effort of not tripping KNOX and just use CF-Auto root.
Towel root should root pre June 6th builds of S5 4.4.2 firmware, without incrementing Knox.
Installing any custom kernel or recovery or using CF autoroot will increment the Knox counter. Less commonly, some failed firmware writes, corrupted partitions, soft bricks or kernel crashes may also increment the counter.
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Galaxy S5, SM-G900F (I'm in Europe), Kernel is Jul 3 2014,
I used to have Towelroot. I unrooted, updated to my most current Android version (4.4.2), and since then Towelroot won't work to reroot (it says I'm not supported). Is this so for all others? Is there a way to properly have Towelroot root my device, or is Odin my only option now?
Thanks.
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Galaxy S5, SM-G900F (I'm in Europe), Kernel is Jul 3 2014,
I used to have Towelroot. I unrooted, updated to my most current Android version (4.4.2), and since then Towelroot won't work to reroot (it says I'm not supported). Is this so for all others? Is there a way to properly have Towelroot root my device, or is Odin my only option now?
Thanks.
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Use the search engine and you will find answers to those questions
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fffft said:
Asked and answered many times. Read a few posts in the forum, do a search or look in my post history for all of the details.
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sigh...look, I only wish to know whether Towelroot is dead and/or what I can do to make it work on my S5. I can't look through thousands of ultra specific threads. I'm not a phone guy. Someone just give me a straight answer and I'm happy. Please. You guys are the experts, I'm not.
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Christ the writing in this thread, just answer him for crying out loud. @tempest22 you've answered your own question, you updated. Towel root doesn't work on the newest firmware, downgrade using Odin to an earlier build then use towel root, use neatroms method to install a recovery and flash a ROM , you'll need to use mobile Odin to flash the modem and bootloader, or you may even be able to do it via recovery if you're on a high enough ROM version, there are other ways to root and install a custom rom. If its just root access you need then downgrade then use towel root..always use a method which retains your Knox 0x0 status.
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Christ the writing in this thread, just answer him for crying out loud. @tempest22 you've answered your own question, you updated. Towel root doesn't work on the newest firmware, downgrade using Odin to an earlier build then use towel root, use neatroms method to install a recovery and flash a ROM , you'll need to use mobile Odin to flash the modem and bootloader, or you may even be able to do it via recovery if you're on a high enough ROM version, there are other ways to root and install a custom rom. If its just root access you need then downgrade then use towel root..always use a method which retains your Knox 0x0 status.
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Thank you so much man, seriously. I really just need root access, so if Towelroot doesn't work anymore I guess I'll just use Odin knowing it will trip Knox. Apart from voiding the warranty it doesn't do anything else right? Any reason to keep Knox? I'd rather keep the most recent firmware, so no downgrade for me.
I don't think flashing a ROM via odin makes you lose your warranty, flashing a custom recovery would, bootloader, modem. But not the entire official TAR file. So you won't have anything to worry about. If it were me id do everything I can to retain my warranty, chances are Knox will never be fixed, so if you trip it then it'll stay that way. There is a guide once you're rooted in neat ROMs thread, its straight forward, just download everything you need, get Odin ready and follow the guide. Should be a walk in the park.
Good luck m8
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tempest22 said:
Thank you so much man, seriously. I really just need root access, so if Towelroot doesn't work anymore I guess I'll just use Odin knowing it will trip Knox. Apart from voiding the warranty it doesn't do anything else right? Any reason to keep Knox? I'd rather keep the most recent firmware, so no downgrade for me.
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Not disregarding other replies " But", if your not concerned about warranty, and your work doesn't require your phone to have Knox security enabled, Root and flash to your hearts content. Again.... If warranty, is Not a concern, go for it, because trying to maintain Knox 0x0, makes things more complicated than they need to be, nor do you get to try all options at your disposal , and really if you weren't a little bit of a risk taker you would not even know what XDA does.(Odin away, lol) Again just my opinion and if it offends, disregard.
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