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This folder just looked fishy to me because it was on my device before I had even installed Dropbox on my Kindle Fire or even rooted it. I have never seen an app install a folder in the main root directory, they're usually in the sdcard folder or within another folder.
Only reason I'm suspicious is because I bought my KF 'open box' and am not sure if someone may have tinkered with it. Can anyone check if you also have this folder? Thanks.
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This folder just looked fishy to me because it was on my device before I had even installed Dropbox on my Kindle Fire or even rooted it. I have never seen an app install a folder in the main root directory, they're usually in the sdcard folder or within another folder.
Only reason I'm suspicious is because I bought my KF 'open box' and am not sure if someone may have tinkered with it. Can anyone check if you also have this folder? Thanks.
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I have it in both my Fires.
Contains a bunch of txt files and a recovery folder.
Cool. Unusual name then for a logging/ recovery folder. Wonder if Dropbox will sue? lol thanks
Yeah, some Android devices, completely unrelated to Dropbox the file sharing service, have a "dropbox" directory where the kernel "drops" crash debug reports.
The term "dropbox" has existed long before Dropbox the company existed... My company has been using that term for LAN file drops since before I started.
can someone please explain to me why, since updating to 4.2, I have what looks like a duplicate of my SD card contents in a sub folder called storage/emulated/0/?
all my gallery apps, Gallery, DroidIris etc. see duplicates of all my pictures now?
And If I save a pic from a browser It points to the folders in storage/emulated/0/, not the SD card ones?
deleting any file in one folder effects the other, so it is probably not a true duplicate thats taking up space is it?
I assume this has to do with the multi user addition to 4.2, but I have not set up a second user at all.
Does this just occur to people upgrading, or to people who installed a fresh version as well?
Cheers.
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can someone please explain to me why, since updating to 4.2, I have what looks like a duplicate of my SD card contents in a sub folder called storage/emulated/0/?
all my gallery apps, Gallery, DroidIris etc. see duplicates of all my pictures now?
And If I save a pic from a browser It points to the folders in storage/emulated/0/, not the SD card ones?
deleting any file in one folder effects the other, so it is probably not a true duplicate thats taking up space is it?
I assume this has to do with the multi user addition to 4.2, but I have not set up a second user at all.
Does this just occur to people upgrading, or to people who installed a fresh version as well?
Cheers.
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I think this has been added as part of the multi-user feature and is where the data/content is stored for other users. It has been mentioned on the forum somewhere else, cant remember where I seen it though.
I also wondered this but then thought logically.
Two users using the same SD card wouldn't be a good idea.
So they sort of virtualise the SD card, and then when a new user is created a sort of partition is created for the user.
I was wondering what that was in ASTRO I thought it was something I did wrong and yes if you delete one file it will end up deleting both of them so be careful luckily I deleted some old downloads I didn't need anymore GOD BLESS YOU GUYS
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thats all fine, thanks guys,
but now, if I download a new pic from dolphin browser to the /emulated/0/pictures folder, the gallery sees my SD/pictures as well as the /emulated/0/pictures folder, the original has 99 files in, and the new one 1 file in, both are called "pictures".
the "save picture as" action opens up its own file explorer, and it wont let me go back far enough in the file tree to access the SD/pictures folder so I can only save in the new /emulated/0 folder and its sub folders?
cheers.
I can't find the folder on my pc. I am trying to run a backup app and it stores it there. I try to replace the backup location to downloads for example and it won't work. It's driving me mad.
The linked directories are linked to look like separate directories but they link to what is called a mount point that the actual physical storage and the actual file. What you do in any of folders will be done in all the folders.
I'm still wrapping my mind and this and my Linux knowledge it's weak. So I'm not going to try to suggest how to deal with these folders. As much as possible I'm letting the app handle the files.
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CarsnGadgets said:
can someone please explain to me why, since updating to 4.2, I have what looks like a duplicate of my SD card contents in a sub folder called storage/emulated/0/?
all my gallery apps, Gallery, DroidIris etc. see duplicates of all my pictures now?
And If I save a pic from a browser It points to the folders in storage/emulated/0/, not the SD card ones?
deleting any file in one folder effects the other, so it is probably not a true duplicate thats taking up space is it?
I assume this has to do with the multi user addition to 4.2, but I have not set up a second user at all.
Does this just occur to people upgrading, or to people who installed a fresh version as well?
Cheers.
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Same for me. Music player, gallery and other apps now show two copies of files. Any solution to fix this yet?
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Same for me. Music player, gallery and other apps now show two copies of files. Any solution to fix this yet?
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I think you are confusing a symlink'd directory with a second copy.
No one - so far - has reported a real problem related to duplicate file - so don't be expecting a fix.
Spend the time reading up on Linux directory structures instead.
rmm200 said:
No one - so far - has reported a real problem related to duplicate file - so don't be expecting a fix.
Spend the time reading up on Linux directory structures instead.
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This.
It's not broken do don't expect a fix. It only 'looks' like you have duplicate files. A change you make in any single place will show up in all locations. Delete a file in one place it will be gone everywhere. The whole file system is an optical illusion. Layers on layers of naming parts of the file system.
For instance /sdcard is actually /data/media/0 if you created another user on your tab they would get /data/media/1 but they would find their files under /sdcard in a file manager.
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I understand that it is a link. As I said problem is that applications show two copies of all files put in /sdcard folder. Because applications treat each link as a separate file. This is exactly what the original poster and I wrote in our posts.
So far I fixed this problem for myself by deleting all files from /sdcard (they disappeared from other linked locations as well) and saving them back straight to /storage/emulation/0 (they appeared in other linked locations, including /sdcard, but this time the gallery and other apps show single copy of each file in their collections).
This is not confortable for a typical user to learn about all these linked folders and I consider it as a drawback of Jelly Bean.
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I understand that it is a link. As I said problem is that applications show two copies of all files put in /sdcard folder. Because applications treat each link as a separate file. This is exactly what the original poster and I wrote in our posts.
So far I fixed this problem for myself by deleting all files from /sdcard (they disappeared from other linked locations as well) and saving them back straight to /storage/emulation/0 (they appeared in other linked locations, including /sdcard, but this time the gallery and other apps show single copy of each file in their collections).
This is not confortable for a typical user to learn about all these linked folders and I consider it as a drawback of Jelly Bean.
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I am trying to understand what you are seeing.
On my device, the gallery app only shows pictures in my user: emulated/0. This is from selecting a picture and then asking for info on it.
What apps are showing duplicates, other than a file explorer that you would expect to show symlinks?
I should add - are you copying pictures directly to /sdcard from somewhere else?
Well I had a problem...because of all the multiuser crap I was unable to restore a titanium backup cause of all the emulated directories that another user makes...I had to delete every /0 directory that it made cause if you install another Rom it makes a new /0 directory inside the other /0 directory so after flashing CM10, MIUI and slim bean I finished with a directory like this: sdcard0/0/0/0.
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restoring backups seems to be a problem too in cwm. Hmm how to fix it
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I ran into this problem with Titanium Backup and my Nexus 7. I was trying to copy the titanium backup folder on the Nexus 7 to my windows PC (also tried mac too) as it was taking up a lot of space on the Nexus but Windows and Mac wouldn't have any of it. It just copied the folder and not the contents. Android file Transfer manager on mac just keeped crashing. I did not try adb pull folder with WugFresh toolkit, so that may work. I ended up copying from the nexus 7 to a USB drive using an OTG cable.
I been looking into this too, this is what I find so far I did a fresh install after I installed my Rom I wipe storage on my N7 so I have a clean storage nothing on it about 27.80gb after I installed one game that is 2gb and its show on both storage emulated and 0 n after my available space is 23.72gb. So I think its does create a duplicate that take space. But Im not sure.I going to run some more tests. If this is true this kinda suck cus then my 32gb n7 is only 16gb then.
Ps. Also if u reboot ur n7 and u go to storage there is another folder under emulated with 0 with the same files you can deleted this folder is save you won't loose anything but if you reboot and go back to storage the file reappear and you can delete but once u reebot again it will reappear again and over again.
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No way are there 2 copies of files (unless you are auto backing up, which I do). My free space was 3.9gb before and after 4.2. Have all the extra meaningless folders.
You could think of the emulated storage locations like a shortcut. You could place multiple shortcuts to your 'My Documents' folder on your desktop without creating multiple copies of 'My Documents'.
Same problem with Galaxy Nexus
I have the same problem with my Galaxy Nexus and Android 4.2.1
In my Windows Explorer i dont see the same files like in my Phone with Total Commander on my Storage.
This is not funny.
I have been searching for ages trying to find this answer and although I've found some threads about this file I can't find where it is kept? In the guides it says to backup this file when upgrading the same ROM or reinstalling it so you don't lose settings etc, which is what I want to do. I have ES File Explorer on my phone and have searched the root files for it to no avail!
As far as I know, if you're on NAND you won't have that file. But I think if you make a backup, you can find it in /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup/your-bacukp .. If you're using cwm.
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As far as I know, if you're on NAND you won't have that file. But I think if you make a backup, you can find it in /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup/your-bacukp .. If you're using cwm.
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I'm using the SD method not NAND. I don't have CWM installed but I'm assuming in ROM manager you create a backup from there, which places it in the backup folder you mention above?
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I'm using the SD method not NAND. I don't have CWM installed but I'm assuming in ROM manager you create a backup from there, which places it in the backup folder you mention above?
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Oh, excuse me. You're using SD, then it's probably located under /sdcard/your-rom-folder/
That folder is usually called "Android", but it may differ from ROM to ROM. I don't remember the data.img being on the root of the sd.
Marvlesz said:
Oh, excuse me. You're using SD, then it's probably located under /sdcard/your-rom-folder/
That folder is usually called "Android", but it may differ from ROM to ROM. I don't remember the data.img being on the root of the sd.
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Thanks. Is it a file I'm looking for as I'm under the impression it is with the .img, similar to an ISO file? Although in the android folder there is a folder called data, which has several folders in.....is this it?
If it is then I think the extension on the name is confusing me as I thought it was an actual file!
Actually, back in the time when I used to use android SD. The data was stored in a file with a ".img" extension. I am not sure about now, maybe they changed it?
I am not familiar with this "data" folder you're referring to.
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Thanks. Is it a file I'm looking for as I'm under the impression it is with the .img, similar to an ISO file? Although in the android folder there is a folder called data, which has several folders in.....is this it?
If it is then I think the extension on the name is confusing me as I thought it was an actual file!
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Yes, that is it. It may have slightly different names depending on the rom. The data file is used by the sd android as the data partition by a nand android. Your apps and data are generally stored in this file. There can be some exceptions, like apps moved with Apps2sd and similar things.
It is usually good to have a backup of this file.
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Thanks....now that I know where it is I can back it up
Hey guys.
I'm a bit intrigued. There's an unknown folder in the root of my phone's internal memory. I delete it every few weeks when I check the storage and sweep all the junk I might find in there.
Here's the folder structure.
GT-I9505\Internal storage\.sp\.94\.743\.cache\LazyList.
Inside that last folder (LazyList), there's a 23 KB file named 663014360. It has no extension. Opening it with Notepad / WordPad reveals a lot of unreadable characters (of course...).
I am having a hard time tracing it back to any app (if it's an app that's creating it, or the ROM itsellf ).
Does anyone here know what this .sp sh*t is all about...?
For what it's worth, I am running the latest SlimKat ROM.
Formhault said:
Hey guys.
I'm a bit intrigued. There's an unknown folder in the root of my phone's internal memory. I delete it every few weeks when I check the storage and sweep all the junk I might find in there.
Here's the folder structure.
GT-I9505\Internal storage\.sp\.94\.743\.cache\LazyList.
Inside that last folder (LazyList), there's a 23 KB file named 663014360. It has no extension. Opening it with Notepad / WordPad reveals a lot of unreadable characters (of course...).
I am having a hard time tracing it back to any app (if it's an app that's creating it, or the ROM itsellf ).
Does anyone here know what this .sp sh*t is all about...?
For what it's worth, I am running the latest SlimKat ROM.
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try this app - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kokanes.fileextensiondirectory
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Formhault said:
Hey guys.
I'm a bit intrigued. There's an unknown folder in the root of my phone's internal memory. I delete it every few weeks when I check the storage and sweep all the junk I might find in there.
Here's the folder structure.
GT-I9505\Internal storage\.sp\.94\.743\.cache\LazyList.
Inside that last folder (LazyList), there's a 23 KB file named 663014360. It has no extension. Opening it with Notepad / WordPad reveals a lot of unreadable characters (of course...).
I am having a hard time tracing it back to any app (if it's an app that's creating it, or the ROM itsellf ).
Does anyone here know what this .sp sh*t is all about...?
For what it's worth, I am running the latest SlimKat ROM.
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It is very good that although you are deleting the launcher's (or some other app) cache, it restores it.
I can understand that you're mad about it and you would like that your launcher (or app) shall not create any cache and consequently would work slower.
As well I appreciate your huge work with tracing it (5th link in google search provides the answer what is it).
If you really care what is, your work would be pretty simple. Factory reset your phone, start each built in ROM app and check the folder after. Then, install your apps one by one, starting each of it and each time after closure checking the folder. Easy.
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try this app - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kokanes.fileextensiondirectory
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Sorry, but that app is of no use to me since the file in question has no extension.
spamtrash said:
It is very good that although you are deleting the launcher's (or some other app) cache, it restores it.
I can understand that you're mad about it and you would like that your launcher (or app) shall not create any cache and consequently would work slower.
As well I appreciate your huge work with tracing it (5th link in google search provides the answer what is it).
If you really care what is, your work would be pretty simple. Factory reset your phone, start each built in ROM app and check the folder after. Then, install your apps one by one, starting each of it and each time after closure checking the folder. Easy.
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What exactly did you use as a search term on Google?
I know most apps create folders that are legible (com.android.thisgameproducer). Buth with this given specific folder's structure, I don't know what it could be.
For what it's worth, I have been trying to find an answer to this for some months. But only now I made a topic about it. I did my research, which turned out nothing... :/
Formhault said:
. I did my research, which turned out nothing... :/
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Have you:
wiped your phone, and then used titanium backup for freezing each app, restoring it, and verifying which one creates it? did you repeated the same for each installed by you app? Well, if this folder/file is NOT created by one application (or installed, or embedded into the ROM), then only one explanation is that your phone is used by E.T at night while he "phone home" and this is his encrypted message.:cyclops:
about extension/filetype:does the file have header?
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Have you:
wiped your phone, and then used titanium backup for freezing each app, restoring it, and verifying which one creates it? did you repeated the same for each installed by you app? Well, if this folder/file is NOT created by one application (or installed, or embedded into the ROM), then only one explanation is that your phone is used by E.T at night while he "phone home" and this is his encrypted message.:cyclops:
about extension/filetype:does the file have header?
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You know where that .sp folder comes from? Perhaps you were able to find something on Google that I didn't all this time...
I don't know what that header is / should be...
I know I could wipe all and start over again and check each app... But that's too time consuming... Hence I am asking here.
Formhault said:
You know where that .sp folder comes from? Perhaps you were able to find something on Google that I didn't all this time...
I don't know what that header is / should be...
I know I could wipe all and start over again and check each app... But that's too time consuming... Hence I am asking here.
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1. No idea which particular app makes the cache file, but it is clear that it is cach for one app you have installed, or one you have embedded in ROM.
2. Header is the two first bytes of file in the notepad viewer: for example, PK is characteristic for zip files and by changing the extension you could see what's inside.
3. No one who does not have your ROM AND your specific set of apps installed would be able to provide the answer, therefore without doing your homework, it is unlikely that you'd have information you want.
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1. No idea which particular app makes the cache file, but it is clear that it is cach for one app you have installed, or one you have embedded in ROM.
2. Header is the two first bytes of file in the notepad viewer: for example, PK is characteristic for zip files and by changing the extension you could see what's inside.
3. No one who does not have your ROM AND your specific set of apps installed would be able to provide the answer, therefore without doing your homework, it is unlikely that you'd have information you want.
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Well, I don't really know what homework I should do here, as the folder structure is weird (come on, just numbers? ) and the file has no obvious meaning whatsoever. I'm usually a tech guy, but when all I see is numbers, I'm really not that wise... :silly:
Since I know for a fact that I don't have any rogue apps installed, guess I should leave it be and carry on.
But anyway, just for the heck of it, I opened the file in Notepad. Here's the first line (as seen in Notepad, lol).
Code:
ÿØÿà JFIF ÿÛ „
(1#%(:3=<[email protected]\[email protected]_bghg>Mqypdx
I'm sorry, but this is way out of my league. :/
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I changed the backup location because it was saying I didn't have enough space (I had plenty). Now my main folder is called TitaniumBackup, with everything in there. New folders are being created outside of the TitaniumBackup folder.
I thought of copying everything inside it and pasting it outside but want to know first if it's simply a folder or something else because, using a file explorer, the sdcard folder is empty and so is emulated/legacy.
Or could I rename the folder to make it the main one again? If so, what to?
To give you an idea of what I mean:
MilkyJoePD said:
I changed the backup location because it was saying I didn't have enough space (I had plenty). Now my main folder is called TitaniumBackup, with everything in there. New folders are being created outside of the TitaniumBackup folder.
I thought of copying everything inside it and pasting it outside but want to know first if it's simply a folder or something else because, using a file explorer, the sdcard folder is empty and so is emulated/legacy.
Or could I rename the folder to make it the main one again? If so, what to?
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Not sure how to fix your current issue, however, I experienced the same original error that you did. If you go into SuperSU and uncheck Namespace Separation, it will resolve that "low space" issue.
If you're on CM13 and using the built-in CM Root Manager, I'm not sure where the Namespace Separation option might be.
I changed the backup location too and everything is OK. Do you have the latest version of Titanium?
Another question, which SuperSU version are you using? Try the latest beta version of you don't have that installed already.
SuperSU 2.65 and latest Titanium.
I ended up just moving everything back to where it should be. It looks like it actually just moved everything in the TitaniumBackup folder, rather than renaming the main one. When I changed the folder location the phone froze and I had to long press the power button to reboot. It probably froze because it was moving everything, and I'm lucky rebooting didn't delete or corrupt any of my data (that I know of, anyway).
The original issue was solved by unchecking namespace separation. What's weird is, I could backup other apps, it was just Settings Storage that was giving the error.