I have owned all the Nexus devies and used them as daily drivers.
I truly believed in the Nexus 6 hype. I still like the device very much, I think it's the best design on any smartphone and it's difficult to use any other phone after using Nexus 6.
General usage
Now hear me out. Nexus 5, what a truly amazing performer this thing is. It really flies out with any task you put on it. Hard to believe that it's snapdragon 800, use xperia z ultra and see how painful that thing is.
I think on 5.1.1, Nexus 5 is a clear winner in terms of speed except the camera where Nexus 6 is pretty quick.
Nexus 6 has improved on 5.1.1 but still it has a long way to go to catch up to the Nexus 5.
Gaming
Forget benchmarks. Gaming performance on Nexus 5 is way way better than Nexus 6. Partly because Nexus 6 lags during many games and partly because Nexus 5 still is one of the best gming performers.
Asphalt 8, nova 3 , Modern combat 5, dead trigger 1 and 2, riptide to 2 all run significantly better on Nexus 5, dead trigger 2 runs less smooth on low graphics settings on Nexus 6 and actually smoother with high graphics, strange.
Keyboard
It's a very very important aspect for me for enjoying my experience with any smartphone.
In terms of touch accuracy , screen responsiveness and keyboard fluidity, Nexus 5 wins just narrowly, not to say the Nexus 6's keyboard is jerky. It's great too.
Browser Performance
Again, Nexus 5 wins in terms of speed of opening the sites, atleast for me on the same network. Also in terms of smoothness when the page is loading, but once the page is completely loaded, Nexus 6 is smooth as butter when your scroll through the page.
Xda site runs better on my nexus 6 too.
Screen
Nexus 6, that sheer size with amoled is lovely to use. Nexus 5 has a great screen too, and it think it looks as sharp as a nexus 6 screen when I take pictures of both with macro focus, probably due to pentile arrangement on nexus 6. Still you won't be able to see it with a naked eye. I also love a curved bezels on my nexus 6 compared to the flat bezels on nexus 5.
Amoled on n6 isn't oversaturated too which is surpising, it's punchy but not oversaturated.
N5 has a somewhat undersaturated colors even for an IPS but still the screen is lovely because black levels are decent and white point is good (not as good as n4).
Sound
Not an expert on sound, don't listen to music but sterio speakers with that loudness surely tilts it in n6's favor.
Overall in terms of performance,Nexus 5 wins pretty easily for me.
Share your thoughts.
Too bad my Nexus 5 was stolen a year ago, would love to see the comparison myself.
KO
Saad Ali said:
I have owned all the Nexus devies and used them as daily drivers.
I truly believed in the Nexus 6 hype. I still like the device very much, I think it's the best design on any smartphone and it's difficult to use any other phone after using Nexus 6.
General usage
Now hear me out. Nexus 5, what a truly amazing performer this thing is. It really flies out with any task you put on it. Hard to believe that it's snapdragon 800, use xperia z ultra and see how painful that thing is.
I think on 5.1.1, Nexus 5 is a clear winner in terms of speed except the camera where Nexus 6 is pretty quick.
Nexus 6 has improved on 5.1.1 but still it has a long way to go to catch up to the Nexus 5.
Gaming
Forget benchmarks. Gaming performance on Nexus 5 is way way better than Nexus 6. Partly because Nexus 6 lags during many games and partly because Nexus 5 still is one of the best gming performers.
Asphalt 8, nova 3 , Modern combat 5, dead trigger 1 and 2, riptide to 2 all run significantly better on Nexus 5, dead trigger 2 runs less smooth on low graphics settings on Nexus 6 and actually smoother with high graphics, strange.
Keyboard
It's a very very important aspect for me for enjoying my experience with any smartphone.
In terms of touch accuracy , screen responsiveness and keyboard fluidity, Nexus 5 wins just narrowly, not to say the Nexus 6's keyboard is jerky. It's great too.
Browser Performance
Again, Nexus 5 wins in terms of speed of opening the sites, atleast for me on the same network. Also in terms of smoothness when the page is loading, but once the page is completely loaded, Nexus 6 is smooth as butter when your scroll through the page.
Xda site runs better on my nexus 6 too.
Screen
Nexus 6, that sheer size with amoled is lovely to use. Nexus 5 has a great screen too, and it think it looks as sharp as a nexus 6 screen when I take pictures of both with macro focus, probably due to pentile arrangement on nexus 6. Still you won't be able to see it with a naked eye. I also love a curved bezels on my nexus 6 compared to the flat bezels on nexus 5.
Amoled on n6 isn't oversaturated too which is surpising, it's punchy but not oversaturated.
N5 has a somewhat undersaturated colors even for an IPS but still the screen is lovely because black levels are decent and white point is good (not as good as n4).
Sound
Not an expert on sound, don't listen to music but sterio speakers with that loudness surely tilts it in n6's favor.
Overall in terms of performance,Nexus 5 wins pretty easily for me.
Share your thoughts.
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performance wise, my n6 bliws my n5 away, its not even close. and on gaming, my n6 never lags. same with browser performance, my n6 is faster. but i guess that would depend on the browser used. i use the aosp browser, not crappy chrome.
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KO
performance wise, my n6 bliws my n5 away, its not even close. and on gaming, my n6 never lags. same with browser performance, my n6 is faster. but i guess that would depend on the browser used. i use the aosp browser, not crappy chrome.
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Are you using another rom and kernel? I'm using stock 5.1.1 on both devices and my n6 is encrypted by default.
Have you tried asphalt 8? I'm sure there's nothing wrong with my Nexus 6.
I use chrome browser on both the phones. I love how it integrates through all my devices.
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Are you using another rom and kernel? I'm using stock 5.1.1 on both devices and my n6 is encrypted by default.
Have you tried asphalt 8? I'm sure there's nothing wrong with my Nexus 6.
I use chrome browser on both the phones. I love how it integrates through all my devices.
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yes, im using terminus on both nexus, excpt mon the n6 right now, and always a custom kernel, since i like setting my own cpu up like i want it. oh, asphalt 8, yes, its on both devices as well.
im sure there's nothing wrong with your n6 as well. what you can try is setting up your cpu differing ways. me, i like all 4 cores always on, with ondemand/deadline.
N6 beats the N5 hands down
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This is probably wrong place to post this. But damn I love this phone just got from Verizon no bloat already rooted and unlocked haven't had this much fun with my phone since my fascinate and early s3 days. I'm so hoping too see all kinds of development its the way Android is supposed to be!!
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This is probably wrong place to post this. But damn I love this phone just got from Verizon no bloat already rooted and unlocked haven't had this much fun with my phone since my fascinate and early s3 days. I'm so hoping too see all kinds of development its the way Android is supposed to be!!
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yea, youre right, wrong place for this post. BUT.. im happy for you
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i use the aosp browser, not crappy chrome.
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how is chrome crappy compared to AOSP browser.
Too funny. It's not even close, the N6 is much faster across the board versus the N5. I use both.
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how is chrome crappy compared to AOSP browser.
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it uses A LOT of resources, and drains more battery. but right at this second im stuck with chrome, since im on m
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it uses A LOT of resources, and drains more battery. but right at this second im stuck with chrome, since im on m
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AOSP browser on terminus is pretty sweet. I'll second that!
iPhone(whatever version) beats both.
Case closed.
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iPhone(whatever version) beats both.
Case closed.
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lol, just lol. iphone anything and it loses automatically. besides, i really dislike it.
simms22 said:
lol, just lol. iphone anything and it loses automatically. besides, i really dislike it.
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It's discussed in private military forums, but SealTeam6 did not kill Bin Laden. It was an iPhone with the Steve Jobs app that ninja'd the terror leader.
iPhone>N6:highfive:>N5>everything else.
For the price point and specs, the Nexus 5 was the best phone ever. The Nexus 6 was a huge failure, they're slashing prices everywhere now to dump them and the next iteration of the Nexus 5 2015 will be a smashing success. Google knows they messed up on the 6, no matter if people want to admit it or not.
Just for clarification. How did Google mess up on the n6. Price maybe but its a premium phone
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Just for clarification. How did Google mess up on the n6. Price maybe but its a premium phone
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they made it to enjoyable for my own use
Mr_S said:
Just for clarification. How did Google mess up on the n6. Price maybe but its a premium phone
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They went against the ethos of what the Nexus is. Premium spec niche phone for half the price of the flagships. Sales have not been good, and many Nexus faithful would spend the 700 dollars on the 6. Lets just wait and see what direction they go with the 2015 version. If they go back to the Nexus 4/5 model of spec/pricing, I think we can all agree that Google will have admitted they messed up on the 6.
Yeah we'll see [emoji6]
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Hey guys,
Recently I've been thinking about changing my Xperia Mini Pro to something better. I just want to get phone that won't be laggy after some while - XMP is like that, no matter on which ROM and kernel.
I've got iPhone in my thoughts, but I don't have many friends with Apple product so it'd be useless - I wouldn't be able to use iMessage or AirDrop so functionality drops down a lot.
Next thing in my mind was Windows Phone. I think it's great alternative for Android, but when I had a fight with my moms Lumia 520, I decided not to buy Windows Phone so soon.
So my eyes looked at Android not-so latest smartphones and I saw Nexus. I felt in love with design of Nexus 4 and 5. My friend got N5 so I did play a little with it and I'd love to buy 5, but I can't afford that so the only alternative is to buy Nexus 4.
I've read that it has good hardware and Android runs smoothly even after a year of using - it's a must be for me, because it's going to be my phone for about 2-3 years from now. The only thing is that glass design - it's beautiful but isn't it vulnerable to scratches or even cracks?
And the best thing I'd love about Nexus 4 is that it's going to get Android L - it's the best information I've heard recently.
So guys... Finally. Is Nexus 4 still worth buying in 2014?
My friend is selling N4 for about 200-230$.
I can tell you, the Nexus 4 is worth every penny, also in 2014 too!
Not only the Nexus 4 has good hardware and everything runs smooth und fast but the community behind this device is great, gentle and helpful. Just take a look at the Nexus 4 threads here on xda. This is just awesome! :good:
With the vanilla android and open source policy of the Nexus 4 you can customize this device to your hearts content. Cyanogenmod, ParanoidAndroid, matr1x kernel, ak...just to name a few examples.
I also own a Nexus 4 since 1 and a half year and its runs like Usain Bolt.
Honestly you shouldn't buy the N4. The phone is very fragile. The glass on the back is thin and is not protected with Gorilla Glass. The Camera is not good, Galaxy S3 has a better camera than the Nexus 4. That is both video and still photos. The battery is average and will last you through a day, maybe two days if you use a battery saving kernel like HellsDoctor.
Lot's of games do not work very well on the Nexus 4, for some reason, i think it's bad optimization with AOSP, because the Quad Core 1.5Ghz CPU and Adreno 320 are strong enough to play every android game. The Nexus 4 also has thermal issues, because of an internal design flaw, the CPU can get very hot (up to 60C in games) if you don't undervolt it with a custom kernel. Than the temp peaks out at maximum 45-50C.
Now i don't mean to bash the Nexus 4, i have one! The design is very nice, it has a good display (With Obsanity_Amoled it looks like an OLED display!), and it has thin bezels. The Nexus 4 is also very very fast, it could compete with the S5, HTC One M8 and Xperia Z2.
But, here is what would I do if I were to change my phone.
If i were you, i would not get the Nexus 4. or the Nexus 5. I would get a Galaxy S4, but i would go for the i9505 or the i9506, the 4G Snapdragon 600 and 800 versions.
I know they are made out of plastic but i would have hard shell case on it so it wouldn't matter.
Yes, they run on TouchWiz but guess what? You can put AOSP on them! That's nexus 4 speeds (even faster because of Snapdragon 600&800) and you get an AMAZING 13MP Camera (my friend has the i9505 and that camera is just EYE QUALITY), and you get a bigger, replaceable battery!
So what's your choice, Nexus 4, or a Galaxy S4 i9505-i9506 AOSP Edition?
I heard about fragility of this phone but I'm trying to take care about my phones . So I don't think it would be a problem - if I'd buy N4, the first thing will be buying a case or a bumper.
When we're going into games - I don't even play games on smartphone. The only games I've ever played were Angry Birds, Flappy Bird, Drop and 2048, so I'm not that "gamer" guy. I heard a little about heating up. But which smartphone hasn't that problem? Even my XMP has a heat problem when I'm using it intensively and long. But it may be a little problem when it comes to heating up even when using WiFi or something like that...
And about that Galaxy S4 is the thing that I really don't like the whole Galaxy series design. It looks too much like cheap phones for me. I much prefer the Sony or Apple design - especially iPhone 4.
I thought about Moto G too, but 1 GB of RAM isn't very convincing and I looked a little at Meizu MX3 with Flyme OS 3 - it's beautiful OS, I think. But it's battery is horrible.
And here we come... Battery... And that's the thing. 4.70" screen and 2100 mAh battery... Nexus 5 isn't better. That's hurting me a lot, that battery life.
Maybe more users will answer in this topic - I do find it very helpful.
But for now thanks for answers, guys! It's harder choice than I thought
still rocking my nexus 4 naked , for about 1 year or bit more , no cracks but some scratches here and there because it keeps sliding randomly , besides that it can easily go through next 3 years without hiccup imo , i was in almost same boat as you but i really think 200-250 is wayy wayyyyyy too much for nexus 4 these days , 150 $ for 16 gb is reasonable in mint but used condition , even if you are gamer this baby will run anything you throw at it without any stutters or anything , battery isnt issue it can last as much as any other phone if you use properly optimized kernel and default display settings suck anywhoo if you can get htc one gpe that would be also great :good:
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Honestly you shouldn't buy the N4. The phone is very fragile. The glass on the back is thin and is not protected with Gorilla Glass. The Camera is not good, Galaxy S3 has a better camera than the Nexus 4. That is both video and still photos. The battery is average and will last you through a day, maybe two days if you use a battery saving kernel like HellsDoctor.
Lot's of games do not work very well on the Nexus 4, for some reason, i think it's bad optimization with AOSP, because the Quad Core 1.5Ghz CPU and Adreno 320 are strong enough to play every android game. The Nexus 4 also has thermal issues, because of an internal design flaw, the CPU can get very hot (up to 60C in games) if you don't undervolt it with a custom kernel. Than the temp peaks out at maximum 45-50C.
Now i don't mean to bash the Nexus 4, i have one! The design is very nice, it has a good display (With Obsanity_Amoled it looks like an OLED display!), and it has thin bezels. The Nexus 4 is also very very fast, it could compete with the S5, HTC One M8 and Xperia Z2.
But, here is what would I do if I were to change my phone.
If i were you, i would not get the Nexus 4. or the Nexus 5. I would get a Galaxy S4, but i would go for the i9505 or the i9506, the 4G Snapdragon 600 and 800 versions.
I know they are made out of plastic but i would have hard shell case on it so it wouldn't matter.
Yes, they run on TouchWiz but guess what? You can put AOSP on them! That's nexus 4 speeds (even faster because of Snapdragon 600&800) and you get an AMAZING 13MP Camera (my friend has the i9505 and that camera is just EYE QUALITY), and you get a bigger, replaceable battery!
So what's your choice, Nexus 4, or a Galaxy S4 i9505-i9506 AOSP Edition?
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I completely disagree with you. Tell me a game that doesnt run well on the N4? I'm a hardcore gamer and there is barely any game that I havent played. Deciding for a phone for it's camera? If so buy a Nokia 3310 and some Nikon/Canon and you rock lol
The topic: I bough a N4 soon and 4 of my friends bough N4 after they played a bit with mine. I would buy it again if I didnt already have it.
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I completely disagree with you. Tell me a game that doesnt run well on the N4? I'm a hardcore gamer and there is barely any game that I havent played. Deciding for a phone for it's camera? If so buy a Nokia 3310 and some Nikon/Canon and you rock lol
The topic: I bough a N4 soon and 4 of my friends bough N4 after they played a bit with mine. I would buy it again if I didnt already have it.
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NFS: Most Wanted runs perfectly but GTA Games, Gangstar Vegas, Despicable Me: Minion rush lag or run at lower framerates.
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NFS: Most Wanted runs perfectly but GTA Games, Gangstar Vegas, Despicable Me: Minion rush lag or run at lower framerates.
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Ever seen Gangstar game running smooth on any device? Even tho on the high settings i finished it w/o any lag with franco kernel. I tried all of the rest and gangstar lags but not with franco, you should try it too. Almost finished GTA:SA and it bugged my safe game also with franco kernel. Despicable me is known for its "optimization" and lagging for most of the devices. When u see bad fps try to see if other phones have it like Despicable me. And for most of the games u said are actually made by Gameloft who produce even unfinished projects so it should not make ur decision.Gameloft is like:
-ok guys we made the game what now, should we optimize it?
-dafaq you are talking about opti-what? Is it running?
-yea but with bad framerate.
-its ok man, release it we will blame people's devices. :good:
Also I'm thinking about not to buying any phone right now and get cash for Nexus 5 - I love this minimalistic design and everything. But this battery to 4.95" screen is misunderstanding...
In your place, I would absolutely go for the N4. I'm using one myself. No matter what I do to the software (hint: a LOT!) I can always get it back up and running. I love the phone and wouldn't replace it with anything other than a Nexus 5.
I've owned a Nexus 4 since the end of August 2013 and even today I still love this phone and I don't feel the urge to upgrade. (At least not until the Nexus 6 is released.)
This phone handles everything I want it to do. Its fast, snappy and simple, one of the reasons I love pure Android as there is no bloat. My phone is still completely stock from day 1 as I don't feel the need to root it. The screen is still quality in my eyes. There is also a possibility that this phone will receive Android L officially from Google which would be fantastic.
However my major grip; battery life. It is horrendous. Hardly makes it through a day for me. I even use extensive methods to save battery, for example, no Google now, location services off, phone on flight mode when WiFi is on etc. And the battery life still sucks. Its a shame the battery is not replaceable or I would have installed an extended battery as I have done in the past for previous phones.
My brother owns a Nexus 5, and from what I've seen his battery life is much much better than the Nexus 4. (He doesn't even use any optimisations and battery saving tweaks)
Comparing the Nexus 5 side by side to the Nexus 4 I don't feel a significant difference to warrant to purchase of the newer model, so when I was given the opportunity a few months ago, I turned it down and I will wait for the Nexus 6.
Bottom line; Nexus 4 is a fantastic phone, but terrible battery life.
yes
I would buy because of the communty behind it
Fareius said:
Hey guys,
Recently I've been thinking about changing my Xperia Mini Pro to something better. I just want to get phone that won't be laggy after some while - XMP is like that, no matter on which ROM and kernel.
I've got iPhone in my thoughts, but I don't have many friends with Apple product so it'd be useless - I wouldn't be able to use iMessage or AirDrop so functionality drops down a lot.
Next thing in my mind was Windows Phone. I think it's great alternative for Android, but when I had a fight with my moms Lumia 520, I decided not to buy Windows Phone so soon.
So my eyes looked at Android not-so latest smartphones and I saw Nexus. I felt in love with design of Nexus 4 and 5. My friend got N5 so I did play a little with it and I'd love to buy 5, but I can't afford that so the only alternative is to buy Nexus 4.
I've read that it has good hardware and Android runs smoothly even after a year of using - it's a must be for me, because it's going to be my phone for about 2-3 years from now. The only thing is that glass design - it's beautiful but isn't it vulnerable to scratches or even cracks?
And the best thing I'd love about Nexus 4 is that it's going to get Android L - it's the best information I've heard recently.
So guys... Finally. Is Nexus 4 still worth buying in 2014?
My friend is selling N4 for about 200-230$.
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The Nexus 4 is a brilliant phone right now, but its ageing processor, lack of LTE and bad battery life mean it probably won't last another 2-3 years. It is a two year old phone, after all.
I just picked up a mint one for 170 and at that price to me its a great phone now yea its just a backup to my z ultra but I am still having a lot of fun with it. I mean just look at the Dev support, its crazy good and I got LTE working in just a few mins pulled 70 down and 25 up first try on T-Mobile.
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My phone is still completely stock from day 1 as I don't feel the need to root it.
However my major grip; battery life. It is horrendous. Hardly makes it through a day for me. I even use extensive methods to save battery, for example, no Google now, location services off, phone on flight mode when WiFi is on etc. And the battery life still sucks.
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You say you don't feel the need to root it yet you have bad battery life. Now go root it and flash HellsDoctor kernel..... you'll have about 4-5 hours of screen on time
And guys, what do you think about this Moto G. I've read a little about it.
Maybe this 1 GB of RAM is not that bad. Any experiences with that smartphone?
About support - I know and that's the best thing in the whole Nexus series - community support. And I'm still hesitating between N4/N5 and now this Moto G came into my mind... It's not so expensive and hardware isn't that bad.
edit: but it doesn't havet NFC . But I think it'll get Android L:
http://www.androidorigin.com/moto-x-moto-g-android-l-5-0-lollipop-update-moto-e/
I am considering getting a second hand N4 as it's still a great phone, especially if it receives Android L from Google. I have an S4 and have been thinking about selling it as with the money (around £240) I could buy an N4 (£120) AND a Nexus 7 2013 (£110). I have the 2012 N7 so would sell it also. Just trying to figure out how much I would miss having the expandable storage option and also the camera on the S4. The other features (sensors, IR, removable battery), I think I could live without as I have them turned off pretty much all the time anyway, don't use the IR remote feature that much and take advantage of a spare battery. I think an external backup battery could be a better solution anyway (much higher capacity, can feature multiple USB ports for several phones/devices.)
Thinking about the expandable storage, it probably wouldnt be much of an issue, as my S4 is a 16GB model but you only get 8-9GB internal accessible even after debloating, where as a 16GB nexus 4 has about 13.5GB available and I could use my 32GB sd card with an OTG reader when need be, I also back up photos using Google auto backup as well which helps. Sorry just trying to convince myself to go ahead and sell my S4..
Still a great phone
In my opinion the N4 is still one of the best phones out there. I recommend it to everyone.
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In my opinion the N4 is still one of the best phones out there. I recommend it to everyone.
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yep, think so as well
I'm going with Nexus 4. Nexus 5 is too expensive for me. I won't get cash from my mother to buy Nexus 5. I'll lend some money from friend or brother for Nex 4. Nexus 4 is for about 200-250$ here, in Poland, used and in good condition but from my friend's friend . Through something like ebay maybe I could get one for 180$ but I don't want to risk broken or stolen smartphone.
So, guys, thanks for answers and advices! Thanks so much. Everyone are getting "Thanks" button from me!
Let the Nexus force be with you, guys! .
I keep reading negative posts about it, but I LOVE this phone. I came from a one plus and while the battery isn't as good I still get at least 4 hours of SOT with a superior screen. The build is great and camera seems just as good. Its not great but its more than capable for a mobile device. Quick charge is AWESOME. I can't be the only one.
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Nope, you're not alone. The Nexus 6 is the best fondleslab I've ever used.
Love it to death. Would buy again.
Nope, I am exactly the same. Came from a oneplus one to the nexus, gave the oneplus to the wife. I like everything better on the nexus except battery was a little better on the OPO. At least the xda threads and any other forums to do with the nexus are helpful and fairly Kind, unlike that oneplus forum that is just full of whiners and people who can't be arsed reading anything at all then ***** when they make a mistake.
Nexus is a very cool phone.
Love mine with chroma ROM and hellscore kernel I got about 6 hours screen time with how I use my phone I only got half that on my s4 its big but I like it
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My biggest gripe
When google/motorola decided to release a almost 6inch nexus device, they should have added a phablet style os. I dont really know but something that made use of the screen. Some type of added features.
Great phone overall, little overpriced but would easily last years. I dont judge phones but SOT(never understood this, use it and it dies) but it gets me through a work day with 15% after 10hrs.
Yall should sticky Turn off adaptive brightness. Pink/Yellow screen was a turn off.
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My biggest gripe
When google/motorola decided to release a almost 6inch nexus device, they should have added a phablet style os. I dont really know but something that made use of the screen. Some type of added features.
Great phone overall, little overpriced but would easily last years. I dont judge phones but SOT(never understood this, use it and it dies) but it gets me through a work day with 15% after 10hrs.
Yall should sticky Turn off adaptive brightness. Pink/Yellow screen was a turn off.
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A phablet ui? No thanks. Nexus is all about pure android, not skinning. I usually don't judge by sot, but man my nexus 5 had the worst battery life I have ever experienced. On par with my original moto droid. Its nice to have a phone with a good quality screen that is able to get good sot.
I don't have pink/yellow screen with adaptive?
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A phablet ui? No thanks. Nexus is all about pure android, not skinning. I usually don't judge by sot, but man my nexus 5 had the worst battery life I have ever experienced. On par with my original moto droid. Its nice to have a phone with a good quality screen that is able to get good sot.
I don't have pink/yellow screen with adaptive?
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turn brightness down(pink) or max(yellow/warm)?
If not I and a million others have a different phone.
When I say phablet ui, Im thinking something similar to tablet ui(my note 10.1 2014 is on kitkat) Maybe google went away with that since lollipop. Ultimately slight tweaks to take advantage of the screen.
This is my first true nexus device. Its pure android i know just a bit boring. I know i know thats the point.
I see what you mean when I turn down the brightness it gets yellow. Feels good on the eyes when you're in a dark room though. I'm in a room right now with only the TV on, no lights And the screen doesn't look yellow at all. If I turn adaptive brightness off it feels like I'm looking at the sun.
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I see what you mean when I turn down the brightness it gets yellow. Feels good on the eyes when you're in a dark room though. I'm in a room right now with only the TV on, no lights And the screen doesn't look yellow at all. If I turn adaptive brightness off it feels like I'm looking at the sun.
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Yeah coming from a mx4 pro and note 4 made the screen appear dim. Adaptive brightness is great for moments like you mentioned.
Reason I mentioned it, most reviewers said negative things about the screen. 99% probably didn't turn off the filter. Screen is bright and vivid without it.
Had the z2 before with the ****ed up built quality. Creaking everywhere and was just a matter of time until the phone cracked. Sold it and bought nexus 6 and never looked back. Great solid phone with great built quality.
And no, the camera is just fine and more than decent.
I absolutely love my nexus 6, and my battery life's been awesome so far I can get a full day out of it without any problems. That's listening to music most days and occasional screen on time.
No.
I'm loving my n6 on T-Mobile. I came from a Verizon GS4 on T-Mobile. Love how easy it is to do anything and everything on it. WiFi calling is icing on the cake. Been jealous of the wife's iPhone WiFi calling ability.
I challenge anyone on XDA to find a better all around flagship device! I here so much that the price was so high but I'm fine with it. The last couple Nexus devices were enjoyable but let's be real for a second the were flagship like!!!! That's still not flagship. The Nexus brand is my favorite brand of phone but with every nexus I had I ended up going to another phone usually before half a year was up. Once or twice I did come back then GI away again lol its hard to remember when you've had so many flagship phones. With the Nexus 6 nothing has been able to pry it out of my hands. Honestly I like it so much that I find it hard to think about getting the next Nexus phone. Of. Course the next Nexus will be better but they may get rid of some very nice pieces from the Nexus 6. Front facing speakers may not make a return although I hope they do. The 5.2 inch is confirmed but that 5.7 inch is just rumors and that would be a huge hit to take in screen size. LG doesn't use amoled which I wouldn't like. Battery life probably would be as nice but I can't say for sure. I guess we will see soon enough. I almost forgot the software experience on Nexus devices which crushes everything else accept Motorola devices.
I personally would have preferred it a bit smaller, Moto Maxx (international Droid Turbo) would have been a better Nexus in that regard, but the extra size occasionally comes in handy for man hands, and the rest of the device is top notch. By far, my biggest concern going into the Nexus 6 was the amoled display, since my last phone was an amoled and seriously made my eyes bleed it was such crap, but turns out that even with the fake 2560x1440 RGBG (true R and B resolution of 2560x720, only G is the full res), that it is enough to overcome general amolededness.
I like mine a lot! I would not like anything smaller. Perfect size!
The only change I would ask for would be a bigger battery but it is not bad and charges REALLY FAST.
Always love nexus but do miss the little refinements of the moto software additions. Moto assist and display are the primary two. I have good alternatives but it's missing a few key features.
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I personally would have preferred it a bit smaller, Moto Maxx (international Droid Turbo) would have been a better Nexus in that regard, but the extra size occasionally comes in handy for man hands, and the rest of the device is top notch. By far, my biggest concern going into the Nexus 6 was the amoled display, since my last phone was an amoled and seriously made my eyes bleed it was such crap, but turns out that even with the fake 2560x1440 RGBG (true R and B resolution of 2560x720, only G is the full res), that it is enough to overcome general amolededness.
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Yeah...never notice any issues due to the subpixel layout. Thing about it....720 pixels in about 3 inches is 240 pixels per inch, and it only matters on near pure blue or red. I guess if you have a bunch of solid red vertical lines it would be noticeable.q
Best phone ever for me. I came from a note 2 as I upgrade every other year. I have other "toy" habits like musical instruments that I also spend discretionary funds on
The other thing I love is that I am a free agent for plans. So if I get dissatisfied I can change in a heartbeat.
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The greatest phone I've ever owned!!!! Unless someone makes another 6" phone with front facing speakers, I think I'll have the nexus for a long long time. If things keep getting updated and supported, I'm happy, and just the fact that I don't have to wait months or a year for an os update really makes me feel like I made a great investment instead of something that will be "behind" after one update
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I've never owned an electronic device of any medium that makes me so bipolar. My previous phone which I still have is a cracked Nexus 5 which compelled me to go and get the AT&T Note 5.
On one hand I absolutely LOVE the hardware. It is the most premium feeling handset I've owned by a large margin. The display is by far the most beautiful of any medium. The audio quality from the aux is leagues better than the Nexus 5. The camera crushes the Nexus 5. No more do I have to make sure the camera is focused. It's an amazing point and shoot camera. It's sleek, beautiful and stunning.
And then we are left with the software... WTF Samsung. Apparently this beast is running the fastest mobile SOC currently on the planet along with 4 gigs of RAM, yet for some reason my Nexus 5 hardly ever dips below 60 fps with animations and scrolling while the Note 5 lags like hell. I don't know how much I can attribute this to a higher resolution display, but it's pretty pathetic how a two year old device is smoother than the alleged current king of mobile processing. Hangouts is almost unbearable on this device. Yes, I know the new hangouts has lag however it wasn't nearly this bad on the Nexus. The only area hangouts lagged on the Nexus was group messaging when scrolling up and down the message chain. Chrome lags during scrolling and no it didn't lag on the Nexus. Play Music lags. I installed Google Now launcher because I like the easy accessibility to Google Now and the LAUNCHER LAGS!! I've hadn't experienced a launcher lagging since I owned an HTC Thunderbolt. So many changes to the UI for just the sake of change. I open the app drawer for the first time and almost fainted. WTF are 80% of these apps? I also miss Google's dialer. I really do miss searching for businesses in the dialer. Then there are the subjective elements that I can't stand. The icons are absolutely disgusting. The lock screen font is disgusting. The notification bar is a mess and isn't nearly as clean as stock android. Why the F do I need an NFC icon? Then I'm caught in another dilemma when I attempt to use the material dark theme and the DEVICE LAGS EVEN MORE!?!?!
Man how much I wish Google still had the Google Play edition program because the marriage between stock android with the Note 5 would be heaven. Why couldn't Samsung just keep the stock UI but kept the added features such as S-pen? I really want to keep this device. I really love holding it and consuming media with it, but man navigating through this device is just a mess.
Some people are
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Unlike you, I have the ability to find faults in expensive devices I just purchased.
I love this device! Although I came from a note 2 and an iPhone 6 plus, I have no regrets. One can find faults with any device imo. I am very happy with my purchase.
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Unlike you, I have the ability to find faults in expensive devices I just purchased.
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Well, for one thing, I didn't get to finish my sentence. So that was kind of rude. What I was going to say, was some people have disabled and removed bloatware through package disabler pro. I never had any issues with lag before. But I disabled 181 apps and packages and my phone zings along. Android is about customization. I'm sorry you feel you were killed or short changed but I have experienced nothing but great stuff from the Note 5. I get 9-10 hrs of SOT and 20-25 hrs of great use. I have done my research and landed on this phone and couldn't be happier. I'd be happy to help you overcome the so called faults you've found and/or fix them. If your more of a DIYer, go through these threads on the How To's to customize your device to your liking.
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Well, for one thing, I didn't get to finish my sentence.
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Well, let's chalk that up to basic miscommunication. There was no way of me knowing that you were abruptly cut short. I'll see how much magic disabling all the bloat can do though. Hopefully it can solve most of my issues.
Just to be clear. Launching apps isn't the problem. Launching apps is considerably faster on the Note 5 than the Nexus 5 by a solid margin. It's the scrolling and animations that lag.
If you want a list of the ones I did. I can provide it. But I suggest taking the time to learn what each package is responsible for so you can truly tailor the device to your liking. I got a phone call and hit submit instead of answer when the little phone window appeared.
I compare the Note 5 to a new toaster. You know it's general premise and capabilities. But it is set to default or zero when its out of the box. It's up to the user to learn or test which setting is what to generate an optimal performance every time. While our society has grown to where we expect our devices to make us toast out of the box, it is still a device and has the tendency to require our input.
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Well, for one thing, I didn't get to finish my sentence. So that was kind of rude. What I was going to say, was some people have disabled and removed bloatware through package disabler pro. I never had any issues with lag before. But I disabled 181 apps and packages and my phone zings along. Android is about customization. I'm sorry you feel you were killed or short changed but I have experienced nothing but great stuff from the Note 5. I get 9-10 hrs of SOT and 20-25 hrs of great use. I have done my research and landed on this phone and couldn't be happier. I'd be happy to help you overcome the so called faults you've found and/or fix them. If your more of a DIYer, go through these threads on the How To's to customize your device to your liking.
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I gotta call bs with 9-10 hrs of SOT unless you really uc the processor have brightness at the min and play zero games.
Fantastic device. User of Note 1 thru 4, i cannot go back to Note 4. Very smooth experience, battery life is way beyond my Note 4 can sustain, and I have not even debloated (not even going to think about it now).
I tend to agree with your post. Scrolling is not as smooth as on my OnePlus One. Even after turning off a lot of background processes.
I feel the exact same way. I love this device, it may be the best android device I have ever used but idk if I can get with this battery life. Coming from a iPhone 6 Plus where I never had to worry about battery life and coming to the Note 5 where I seem to always have to consider my battery life. Yeah I know it has quick charging but that is besides the point. We will see if it gets better or if Samsung rolls out an update to tweak some things (Maybe in the year 2016) but as of right now, I'm paying close attention to my 14-day return period.
Well if you dont like the Note 5 then return it. I've came from a OnePlus One and I am very happy with the phones performance and battery life!
Comparing an iPhone to a note 5 is hardly a fair comparison... the iPhone is like a butter knife, it looks nice and does what it does weĺl... but thats it. The note 5 on the other hand is a swiss army knife of phones.... it does everything and can be tweaked, improved and customised.
If you arent happy thats a shame, enjoy your iPhone.
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Well if you dont like the Note 5 then return it. I've came from a OnePlus One and I am very happy with the phones performance and battery life!
Comparing an iPhone to a note 5 is hardly a fair comparison... the iPhone is like a butter knife, it looks nice and does what it does weĺl... but thats it. The note 5 on the other hand is a swiss army knife of phones.... it does everything and can be tweaked, improved and customised.
If you arent happy thats a shame, enjoy your iPhone.
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There is no point in replying if you didn't even read the original post. Where the F did this iphone come from?
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Well if you dont like the Note 5 then return it. I've came from a OnePlus One and I am very happy with the phones performance and battery life!
Comparing an iPhone to a note 5 is hardly a fair comparison... the iPhone is like a butter knife, it looks nice and does what it does weĺl... but thats it. The note 5 on the other hand is a swiss army knife of phones.... it does everything and can be tweaked, improved and customised.
If you arent happy thats a shame, enjoy your iPhone.
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I also come from a OP1. Although I generally love the phone, for being such a powerhouse, the scrolling behaviour is a bit disappointing. I just held both phones, opening the same apps and somehow I feel the OP is smoother at times. Odd...
They pushed this out at least a month early. and this and the s6 are a brand new hardware platform, not your note 3 era nexus 5 hardware.
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Your wrong. I had 4 hours sot @ 46% left and l full brightness too
I agree the Note is fast no doubt, and can open apps faster than my Nexus 6, however over all experience is that the Nexus 6 is smoother with less hiccup. I too wish GPE wasn't dead, but it is and I see no signs of a resurrection. Even the supposed Android silver seems like a pipe dream now. In the end I am happy with Note 5 and will use my JoD for the Huaweii(spell check) nexus
If you have anything like lastpass using accessibility, turn it off and see if the scrolling turns out to work better.
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Your wrong. I had 4 hours sot @ 46% left and l full brightness too
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Must not do anything intensive on your phone at all than, sounds very boring.
I recently went out of my way to purchase a 5x (MDA89E) by driving 40 odd miles to a carphonewarehouse store that I knew had it in stock (after having called them). Yes I'm crazy, but I just LOVED the nexus 5, even though I had my main gripes and complaints and issues with different production models etc, I did eventually manage to obtain a model that was perfect.
But anyhow, I have been thoroughly excited since the news of the 5x. But once having used the device for the most part of 2.5 days, I'm hugely disappointed.
The same magic android experience I felt immediately with the nexus 5 just is not there with the nexus 5x. It feels incredibly cheap and plastic, and the finish is not as precise or robust feeling as the Nexus 5. The black model doesn't have the same matt back as the nexus 5.
I am very pleased with the screen and the finger print sensor is rapid and the camera is better than the nexus 5, but apart from that, everything else is sub bar.
This is the first ever google android device that I have EVER owned whereby I have experienced a laggy experience and lag in general.
I never experienced any lag on the nexus 4, nexus 5 or the nexus 6. But the 5x, I am experiencing strange frequent lag, even whilst just generally surfing the net using chrome.
The webpages stutter, the scrolling from top to bottom on a webpage frequently lags and I am completely unsatisfied with the experience as a whole. Switching between certain apps like the camera app and the snapspeed app, I experience a strange delay for a few seconds.
I have compared this to the same apps on my nexus 5 and my nexus 6 and unfortunately I am yet to experience any lag at all. Not a single experience.
My second major complaint with the handset is the Audio.
Google and LG should be embarrassed with the Audio they have incorporated into the nexus 5x, and to be quite frank, it is unacceptable. The Audio is incredibly tinny and low powered, even worse than the nexus 5.
Plugging in headphones makes it even worse. My nexus 5 is louder with headphones plugged in.
Again, let me reiterate that this is completely unacceptable, considering handsets like the Motorola moto g (2015) and the moto x play have superb audio and are also priced cheaper. (I know the screens arent as good as the 5x and they don't have a finger print sensor, but my family members have both, and the android experience on these handsets have been sublime). Though incredibly underpowered compared to the 5x, they run smoother after a comparison last night!?!??!!!
I know this 5x is classified as a cheaper alternative to cater to the budget market, but £340 is not cheap, when the moto g is priced at £149.99 and the moto x play priced at £279.99 (argos).
I really feel google is not catering to the main element of owning a smartphone, and that is the media experience.
And I will also add that they aren't even catering to the main functionality of a phone itself, which is the actual call quality, which again, is abysmal and unacceptable for a device that is priced at £340.00. I can barely increase the volume enough to hear the other person in a call, and everybody I have spoken to during a call has asked me why i sound muffled??
I'm sorry to be sounding negative, but I was expecting a step up from the nexus 5, Not a step down with a better screen and an added fingerprint sensor.
This is unacceptable and I am contemplating returning the device. Hugely disappointing and totally unexpected from google.
When the nexus 5 was released, it had, at the time, the best specs at an extremely competitive price.
The 5x is mid range specs, a good screen and a finger print sensor/camera, but a regression in usability and functionality. I cannot use this phone for media. To watch or listen to music and videos etc during my daily commute or to have important telephone conversations in a public environment. If Im in a closed room with no other noise around, then yes, it is just about acceptable, but even low for smartphone standards.
I guess I wouldn't complain as much if everything was flowing utterly smooth like I expect from a google stock android device, but it isn’t. It doesn't. I have no idea why.
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I recently went out of my way to purchase a 5x (MDA89E) by driving 40 odd miles to a carphonewarehouse store that I knew had it in stock (after having called them). Yes I'm crazy, but I just LOVED the nexus 5, even though I had my main gripes and complaints and issues with different production models etc, I did eventually manage to obtain a model that was perfect.
But anyhow, I have been thoroughly excited since the news of the 5x. But once having used the device for the most part of 2.5 days, I'm hugely disappointed.
The same magic android experience I felt immediately with the nexus 5 just is not there with the nexus 5x. It feels incredibly cheap and plastic, and the finish is not as precise or robust feeling as the Nexus 5. The black model doesn't have the same matt back as the nexus 5.
I am very pleased with the screen and the finger print sensor is rapid and the camera is better than the nexus 5, but apart from that, everything else is sub bar.
This is the first ever google android device that I have EVER owned whereby I have experienced a laggy experience and lag in general.
I never experienced any lag on the nexus 4, nexus 5 or the nexus 6. But the 5x, I am experiencing strange frequent lag, even whilst just generally surfing the net using chrome.
The webpages stutter, the scrolling from top to bottom on a webpage frequently lags and I am completely unsatisfied with the experience as a whole. Switching between certain apps like the camera app and the snapspeed app, I experience a strange delay for a few seconds.
I have compared this to the same apps on my nexus 5 and my nexus 6 and unfortunately I am yet to experience any lag at all. Not a single experience.
My second major complaint with the handset is the Audio.
Google and LG should be embarrassed with the Audio they have incorporated into the nexus 5x, and to be quite frank, it is unacceptable. The Audio is incredibly tinny and low powered, even worse than the nexus 5.
Plugging in headphones makes it even worse. My nexus 5 is louder with headphones plugged in.
Again, let me reiterate that this is completely unacceptable, considering handsets like the Motorola moto g (2015) and the moto x play have superb audio and are also priced cheaper. (I know the screens arent as good as the 5x and they don't have a finger print sensor, but my family members have both, and the android experience on these handsets have been sublime). Though incredibly underpowered compared to the 5x, they run smoother after a comparison last night!?!??!!!
I know this 5x is classified as a cheaper alternative to cater to the budget market, but £340 is not cheap, when the moto g is priced at £149.99 and the moto x play priced at £279.99 (argos).
I really feel google is not catering to the main element of owning a smartphone, and that is the media experience.
And I will also add that they aren't even catering to the main functionality of a phone itself, which is the actual call quality, which again, is abysmal and unacceptable for a device that is priced at £340.00. I can barely increase the volume enough to hear the other person in a call, and everybody I have spoken to during a call has asked me why i sound muffled??
I'm sorry to be sounding negative, but I was expecting a step up from the nexus 5, Not a step down with a better screen and an added fingerprint sensor.
This is unacceptable and I am contemplating returning the device. Hugely disappointing and totally unexpected from google.
When the nexus 5 was released, it had, at the time, the best specs at an extremely competitive price.
The 5x is mid range specs, a good screen and a finger print sensor/camera, but a regression in usability and functionality. I cannot use this phone for media. To watch or listen to music and videos etc during my daily commute or to have important telephone conversations in a public environment. If Im in a closed room with no other noise around, then yes, it is just about acceptable, but even low for smartphone standards.
I guess I wouldn't complain as much if everything was flowing utterly smooth like I expect from a google stock android device, but it isn’t. It doesn't. I have no idea why.
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I find it interesting that your review of this device is different from all the reviews I have heard. Maybe you could have a faulty device or preproduction OS? Just seems odd, I will keep my eyes out for more people to confirm but I have heard the opposite from so many people.
Thanks for the review
Thanks for the update.
If the call quality is really like this, then I will be also considering returning it... Most of the reviews were saying that the call quality is OK, I think I found one that were complaining about it...
I have ordered the 5X and cancelled more times than I am going to admit. Right now I am waiting. It seems like maybe this device would be good if you're coming from a Nexus 4 but if you currently own a Nexus 5 or 6 it really isn't much of an upgrade...certainly not worth $430. Hopefully Google goes with a smaller premium model next year.
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I have ordered the 5X and cancelled more times than I am going to admit. Right now I am waiting. It seems like maybe this device would be good if you're coming from a Nexus 4 but if you currently own a Nexus 5 or 6 it really isn't much of an upgrade...certainly not worth $430. Hopefully Google goes with a smaller premium model next year.
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You too? Mine is more than a dozen
But my last order locked into processing right away, and ill have it tomorrow. Going to be comparing it with my 96gb Moto X Pure.
My order is currently cancelled (for "only" the 2nd time) and I have been wary about the published reviews that are lukewarm at best. I guess what I'd really like is a 6p the size of the 5x. Have to wait and see more reviews on the forums...
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I find it interesting that your review of this device is different from all the reviews I have heard. Maybe you could have a faulty device or preproduction OS? Just seems odd, I will keep my eyes out for more people to confirm but I have heard the opposite from so many people.
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Droid Life compared the 5X to the 6P on their podcast, and said the 5X was noticeably more laggy than the 6P, and when double tapping the power button the launch the camera, it took significantly longer to do so on the 5X. They also mentioned battery life is average.
Maybe i could have a faulty unit. I remember the nexus 5 early production units had a few screen issues etc.
But i never remember ever experiencing lag on any previous nexus devices. This doesn't feel like a nexus buttery smooth device. It feels more similar to a device that is using a marshmallow stock rom.
I don't mean to be super critical, but the nexus 5 was a really amazing pure android butter smooth rapid fast lag free experience. I still love that phone, even to this day! Just because of the responsiveness and speed, it sort of cancelled out the negatives of the poor battery life etc
But my experience with the 5x isn't the same. It's not smooth and stutter free like how I've come to associate nexus devices to be.
Do you think I should request an exchange to see if it just isn't my unit or should I run a full reset and install everything again. This is the third day with the device, but frankly, I just feel a bit let down.
Maybe I should have been patient and just waited for the 6p, but the form factor of the nexus 5x is what i find hugely appealing.
I won't deny, the finger print sensor is first class. It's so rapid and class leading. The screen is vibrant and nice. Colors appear in great contrast, but not over saturated and vivid compared to the nexus 6 amo screen.
The camera is a huge step up.
But, for example, the vibration motor is really weak. They should have improved this. They should have improved the audio/media sound quality and the call audio quality. It makes sense if other cheaper alternatives can, why cant google?
Even lg's budget lg g3s and g4s have really decent audio and sound/call quality, as do the moto g, and moto play and especially the moto style.
Audio is hugely important, as is sound quality and call sound quality. This is what makes the media experience immersive when using a smartphone. I don't expect htc m8 or nexus 6 speaker quality, but then i don't expect quality so sub bar, that it's neigh on embarrasing, for a handset valued by google at £340.
I have just read a thread about using the phone with the charger plugged in causes lag.. I have been doing this but only in the morning and the evening. Not during my commute.
I really need to decide whether i should exchange or just return.
But overall, this doesn't feel like the usual nexus magic I've become so used to.
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Droid Life compared the 5X to the 6P on their podcast, and said the 5X was noticeably more laggy than the 6P, and when double tapping the power button the launch the camera, it took significantly longer to do so on the 5X. They also mentioned battery life is average.
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All reports that I've seen show that opening the camera on the 5x is laggy. Everything else seems to be smooth.
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You too? Mine is more than a dozen
But my last order locked into processing right away, and ill have it tomorrow. Going to be comparing it with my 96gb Moto X Pure.
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I can also tell, even by looking at the 6P, that all the emphasis on design, software, user experience etc has been directed towards this model as opposed to the 5x, which is a total shame. Its like those who prefer the small form factor are literally ostracized and classed as second class citizens with a marked down substandard experience.
The 6P will undoubtedly offer the truer next gen nexus android experience. I can tell, it will be totally smooth as silk and lag free
Coming from an S6 edge, I don't have any complaints about my Nexus 5X not being smooth and feeling fast.
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Coming from an S6 edge, I don't have any complaints about my Nexus 5X not being smooth and feeling fast.
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That doesn't surprise me! touch wiz is just generally awful. Any nexus device would be a huge improvement on that front!
But can you honestly say you're not taken back by the lackluster sound quality/audio and the call quality of the 5x in comparison to the s6 edge? the quality of the vibration on the vibration motor?
Hi
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Maybe i could have a faulty unit. I remember the nexus 5 early production units had a few screen issues etc.
But i never remember ever experiencing lag on any previous nexus devices. This doesn't feel like a nexus buttery smooth device. It feels more similar to a device that is using a marshmallow stock rom.
I don't mean to be super critical, but the nexus 5 was a really amazing pure android butter smooth rapid fast lag free experience. I still love that phone, even to this day! Just because of the responsiveness and speed, it sort of cancelled out the negatives of the poor battery life etc
But my experience with the 5x isn't the same. It's not smooth and stutter free like how I've come to associate nexus devices to be.
Do you think I should request an exchange to see if it just isn't my unit or should I run a full reset and install everything again. This is the third day with the device, but frankly, I just feel a bit let down.
Maybe I should have been patient and just waited for the 6p, but the form factor of the nexus 5x is what i find hugely appealing.
I won't deny, the finger print sensor is first class. It's so rapid and class leading. The screen is vibrant and nice. Colors appear in great contrast, but not over saturated and vivid compared to the nexus 6 amo screen.
The camera is a huge step up.
But, for example, the vibration motor is really weak. They should have improved this. They should have improved the audio/media sound quality and the call audio quality. It makes sense if other cheaper alternatives can, why cant google?
Even lg's budget lg g3s and g4s have really decent audio and sound/call quality, as do the moto g, and moto play and especially the moto style.
Audio is hugely important, as is sound quality and call sound quality. This is what makes the media experience immersive when using a smartphone. I don't expect htc m8 or nexus 6 speaker quality, but then i don't expect quality so sub bar, that it's neigh on embarrasing, for a handset valued by google at £340.
I have just read a thread about using the phone with the charger plugged in causes lag.. I have been doing this but only in the morning and the evening. Not during my commute.
I really need to decide whether i should exchange or just return.
But overall, this doesn't feel like the usual nexus magic I've become so used to.
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It always surprises me how people complain about the audio on smartphones. It is impossible for any smart phone to have good audio when you have a speaker the size of an M&M, it's simple physics, they are all just degrees of rubbish really. That's why they have a headphone socket and Bluetooth, so we have options to stream to a speaker that stands some chance of providing full range sound :good:
In terms of performance, worth trying a reset, but you may have a faulty phone, could you try one in a phone shop and see how they compare? I can see no difference in performance between mine and the older 5, the speed is mostly governed by the animations and both phones are slowed down enough navigating around by the "smoothness" that CPU speed differences really isn't noticeable in use. You could have a super computer running Marshmellow and it would still be the same speed due to the animations. If you really want a performance boost pop into Developer settings and turn of the animations, it's miles faster then, but then the 'butter smoothness' is gone. Funny how Google have made slowing down the UI something we perceive as better performance.
Hope you get your issues sorted out.
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Coming from an S6 edge, I don't have any complaints about my Nexus 5X not being smooth and feeling fast.
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It always surprises me how people complain about the audio on smartphones. It is impossible for any smart phone to have good audio when you have a speaker the size of an M&M, it's simple physics, they are all just degrees of rubbish really. That's why they have a headphone socket and Bluetooth, so we have options to stream to a speaker that stands some chance of providing full range sound :good:
In terms of performance, worth trying a reset, but you may have a faulty phone, could you try one in a phone shop and see how they compare? I can see no difference in performance between mine and the older 5, the speed is mostly governed by the animations and both phones are slowed down enough navigating around by the "smoothness" that CPU speed differences really isn't noticeable in use. You could have a super computer running Marshmellow and it would still be the same speed due to the animations. If you really want a performance boost pop into Developer settings and turn of the animations, it's miles faster then, but then the 'butter smoothness' is gone. Funny how Google have made slowing down the UI something we perceive as better performance.
Hope you get your issues sorted out.
Regards
Phil
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When I'm talking about the sound quality, I am literally talking about the quality of headphones plugged into the device. Its so embarrassingly low on the 5x its unbelievable that google and lg would see this as fit for purpose when it obviously is not.
I just got mine and I am superbly disappointed of it comparing to my Galaxy S6. Anyone compared the 5X to the 6P yet in terms of OS performance, speaker quality, camera, etc?
Syn Ack said:
I just got mine and I am superbly disappointed of it comparing to my Galaxy S6. Anyone compared the 5X to the 6P yet in terms of OS performance, speaker quality, camera, etc?
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What are you disappointed with? The S6 is a much higher level phone than the 5X so I would expect it to be a downgrade in almost everything but software. I don't think Google has shipped at 6P's yet to end users to compare.
It's kinda funny that people are saying it feels and looks cheap. People must forget what others said about the nexus 5 when it came out.. That it looked boring, cheap, that nothing about it stood out.. I mean after the beautiful nexus 4 people were expecting a 5 that was premium like the 4.. And look what happened... That became the most loved nexus of them all so far..
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It's kinda funny that people are saying it feels and looks cheap. People must forget what others said about the nexus 5 when it came out.. That it looked boring, cheap, that nothing about it stood out.. I mean after the beautiful nexus 4 people were expecting a 5 that was premium like the 4.. And look what happened... That became the most loved nexus of them all so far..
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Trust me when I say that the phone is hard plastic. Like literally.
The moto X play feels more premium and that's a cheaper handset.
The nexus 5 wasn't as aesthetically pleasing to the eye like the nexus 4, but holding the nexus 5, it felt nice, especially the soft touch matte back.
The 5x is just straight up hard plastic.
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4 times here too, and twice with the 6p. Still have the 6p coming through......unless I cancel again [emoji4]
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So I've been seeing alot of posts saying the nexus 6p is "the best android phone ever". Well I, for one, don't quite agree. Yea, it runs stock android which makes the UI alot smoother compared to say samsung . But still the camera is only average. Processor isn't on the real high end build is unique but not a sexy phone. So what are your views?
It's all about perception
For me the one word review is
SATISFACTION.
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Actually the camera on this phone is very good and not just average.
http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Google-Nexus-6P-review-Serious-contender-for-mobile-photography
Very satisfied with this phone. Android pay works with root, speedy and very good battery life for me. I can use different carriers. No bend for me as that is usually from non average handling and I always use a case.
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So I've been seeing alot of posts saying the nexus 6p is "the best android phone ever". Well I, for one, don't quite agree. Yea, it runs stock android which makes the UI alot smoother compared to say samsung . But still the camera is only average. Processor isn't on the real high end build is unique but not a sexy phone. So what are your views?
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Overall as a total package it is the best Android phone I have used. The battery life is a bit disappointing as I was expecting iPhone 6S Plus type battery but I'm still overall very pleased.
It's a very good phone IMHO, but with the bending issue, noise on the headphone jack and no Android pay with Xposed I feel pretty dumb for buying this instead of a oneplus 2. I have a oneplus one and that phone is solid. I skipped the op2 because of nfc and now I have a bent 6p and still no Android pay. Might not be such a big deal but the 6p costs so much more for similar specs.
Yeah the 6p has a "better" display, but I can't really sus out a big difference unless I'm really looking for it. The camera is also a bit better(mostly in low light).
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So I've been seeing alot of posts saying the nexus 6p is "the best android phone ever". Well I, for one, don't quite agree. Yea, it runs stock android which makes the UI alot smoother compared to say samsung . But still the camera is only average. Processor isn't on the real high end build is unique but not a sexy phone. So what are your views?
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Are you serious? 810 was the best SOC at the time from Qualcomm, nothing better. This is the newest Super AMOLED from Samsung. Uses larger pixels for camera, best in class for all situations which often are low light. This is so successful Samsung took note and reduced 16mp to 12mp for larger pixel and sensor. Only Moto X Pure has better speakers. Add that with the excellent battery and software, there is little doubt Nexus 6P was the best Android Phone of 2015. No other phone provided the full package. The fingerprint is icing on the cake, Google's imprint is the best fingerprint solution on any smartphone to date.
For custom roms, 6P is heaven. I used Purity in the past, not available for 6P, but I am using it anyway. Building roms for 6P for either CM/AOSP/OMNI based roms is an absolute breeze.
As for quality issues? No idea since I haven't seen any Nexus 6P in the wild that aren't in pristine condition and well perfect.
For those complaining about Android Pay and they rooted for Xposed? That is hilarious...
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Are you serious? 810 was the best SOC at the time from Qualcomm, nothing better. This is the newest Super AMOLED from Samsung. Uses larger pixels for camera, best in class for all situations which often are low light. This is so successful Samsung took note and reduced 16mp to 12mp for larger pixel and sensor. Only Moto X Pure has better speakers. Add that with the excellent battery and software, there is little doubt Nexus 6P was the best Android Phone of 2015. No other phone provided the full package. The fingerprint is icing on the cake, Google's imprint is the best fingerprint solution on any smartphone to date.
For custom roms, 6P is heaven. I used Purity in the past, not available for 6P, but I am using it anyway. Building roms for 6P for either CM/AOSP/OMNI based roms is an absolute breeze.
As for quality issues? No idea since I haven't seen any Nexus 6P in the wild that aren't in pristine condition and well perfect.
For those complaining about Android Pay and they rooted for Xposed? That is hilarious...
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The Android pay issue is not the phones fault but it's worth noting that in my case I went into it after having used Google wallet for years with exposed on multiple devices. I didn't want the op2 because no nfc, little did I know that it wouldn't matter with Android pay since it locked down the ability to use with root.
I'm not going to get into a war that neither side can win since it's our opinion... But in my opinion, they are insanely overrated, 6P included. I will just leave it at that.
Actually it's underrated and keeps getting better with time & xda! :silly:
If your heavily invested in your mobile OS, and want everything to work, buy an iPhone.
If you prefer Android, and still want everything to work, Nexus is your best bet. Otherwise, you risk OEM skins breaking things (AA, Wear, etc.), and possibly never seeing a firmware upgrade that gets things right.
Glad your OPO worked perfectly for you; it did not for many.
This is of course just how I see things, but it is due to years of experience with my ear very close to the ground. (C;
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I'm not going to get into a war that neither side can win since it's our opinion... But in my opinion, they are insanely overrated, 6P included. I will just leave it at that.
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Yes we know, you spend all your time on XDA trying to stop folks from buying Nexus and buying a Galaxy phone. It's very clear from your post history you don't actually contribute anything to XDA other than negativity about the 6P.
Is the Nexus 6p Overrated? ....................A IPhone is Overrated. Honestly I would have to say NO, you cant even go to a carrier and pick one up yet. Here is my reason for a a Nexus device:
-Service
Supports CDMA, GSM and Voice over WI-FI, Great for me since I have Verizon and it also would make it easy for me to drop Verizon and go somewhere else without spend 700$+ on their new phone.
-Price to performance
For 499$-649$ now compare to the Samsung S7 edge 800-900$ and performing nearly the same and difference are in the 1-3 sec range (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smY4FOeVdvs)
-Pretty Great display
It's a Samsung AMOLED Display, only thing you don't get is a super bright mode for the outdoors.
-Great Camera
It not the best camera but it’s a great camera. It’s able to take great picture at night and during the day. 1080p and 4k recording is great when not moving. But I notice EIS work with 1080 but it disables somehow with 4k. I don't have a 4k display yet so I don't really use 4k feature. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMHeX8gGy3k)
- Metal build
I'm still wondering how in the world people are bending their phones. It seems like a lot of people watching YouTube these day a little too much. I guess I’m a lucky person who never had that issue. I loved the build but i do rock a case on it, the metal does make it feels like it worth its price.
-Finger print scanner
Best thing that could happen to a smartphone. but it need to be integrated in to more app other the android pay.
-Front facing speaker
Only one other phone that could come close to this level of sound quality is a HTC device with boom sound.
-Battery
This is one of the hardest subject because we all don't use our phones the same. More you play games and watch video faster your battery goes down. Usually on an 8 hour work I get to 83% with light (email, phone call, text message, Facebook). Come home and play games and watch YouTube for 4-5 hours and get to 20% -15%
-No bloatware (include carrier software)
-You know you are get a next Android Update
-Google provides a monthly security Update
-Most active developer community on the internet
-Knowing that you will be able to unlock your bootloader
-Having ROMs and Kernel
It definitely isn't overrated, its extremely reasonably priced in comparison to hilarious outrageous prices charged by Samsung and Apple, its a premium phone without the premium price tag with the best software experience around on a mobile OS. Also the camera definitely isn't average.
People around me think it's overrated (and way overpriced) too, but that's just because I'm in China where no one appreciates the simplicity and speed of AOSP-based Android. The camera is even better with the aid of apps like Camera FV-5 (e.g. macro), and finger scanning speed beats iPhones to it. They like the new MI 5 for instance, but they've never been able to get their hands on one
But yeah, I hate the looks the more I look at it. I don't want it to look like a Huawei phone, lest look like a Mate 7.
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zymphad said:
Yes we know, you spend all your time on XDA trying to stop folks from buying Nexus and buying a Galaxy phone. It's very clear from your post history you don't actually contribute anything to XDA other than negativity about the 6P.
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I spend all my time trying to stop people from buying this phone? Good job making up stories. I never once told someone not to buy it to my knowledge. I've given my opinion like you, but never flat out told someone not to buy it.
I have a right to my opinion that it's overrated. I've said this from the minute I became obsessed with Android phones years ago... People grossly overrate stock Android, hence Nexus phones as well.
For a small and quick example... The 6P is the first Nexus which doesn't have a downright embarrassing camera, yet people still said Nexus was the best. Camera is just one example. Let's not forget the laughable screens on the Nexus 4 and 5, and the color issues with the 6 and 6P.
Anyhow, glad you like your phone. You should if you're using it each day. Everyone has their own needs. I'm happy for you as much as you won't believe it lol. Remember, there is no wrong choice.
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I have a right to my opinion that it's overrated. I've said this from the minute I became obsessed with Android phones years ago... People grossly overrate stock Android, hence Nexus phones as well.
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Your arguments don't make much sense since Nexus phones were introduced as what Google meant android to be and as a development platform for app developers and for those who contribute to the AOSP project.
Nexus phones were advertised as the best stock android experience and that is true, this is as google meant android to be. Obviously a lot of folks want the Samsung/LG/HTC etc experience. It is ludicrous to say that is overrated, no brand of phone does stock android better. Anyone buying a Nexus device should know what it is they are buying.
Nexus as a mainstream device only came about because a following developed for the stock experience. Camera would not have been high on the list, promoting Android, and helping some manufactures gain brand recognition and growth was. It wasn't until Nexus 5 Google saw Nexus as a brand to go head to head with Apple. Nexus 6 first attempt, and Google managing to provide this level of camera experience and overall feel at $450 one year later is amazing.
Despite the amazing hardware and refinements, I still see Nexus phones as the best way to introduce someone to android on a budget. It comes with great hardware, 810/806, good battery life, fingerprint, monthly security updates, an open platform to use device as you wish (rooting, development), and a great simple point and shoot camera for all lighting conditions. I do not see how that is overrated.
If one wanted the absolute best camera, materials, quality controlled and tested build, and the prestige or popularism, Nexus clearly not the phone. Best to look at an iPhone frankly...
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So I've been seeing alot of posts saying the nexus 6p is "the best android phone ever". Well I, for one, don't quite agree. Yea, it runs stock android which makes the UI alot smoother compared to say samsung . But still the camera is only average. Processor isn't on the real high end build is unique but not a sexy phone. So what are your views?
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I had the LG G4 for 6 months, sold it and now am happily using a Nexus 6P. I missed my Nexus 5 and the "development" side of things, so going back to the Nexus family makes me happy.
Nexus is perfect for a specific type of user.... The smart ones! Besides the 6p has better low light camera response than g4/v10, which was best from last year.
It's a highly customizable device. Doesn't compare to Samsung or lg in this department. IPhone isn't even on the same planet, its the opposite of customizing.
Also the 6p's 810 v2 has received over 120,000 antutu benchmarks consistently without getting hot or rapid battery loss.
Lastly it will be current for at least 3 to 4 years (maybe more) with a custom ROM.
markwebb said:
Actually the camera on this phone is very good and not just average.
http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Google-Nexus-6P-review-Serious-contender-for-mobile-photography
Very satisfied with this phone. Android pay works with root, speedy and very good battery life for me. I can use different carriers. No bend for me as that is usually from non average handling and I always use a case.
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Haha sorry I was wrong when I said average camera. Better then average but maybe not up to s6 standard?
Everyone has different uses for their phone. Some likes phones with better camera who doesnt watch videos or play games... Some enjoy playing games and dont really use the camera. Some like to listen audio or surf the web.. Some who are rich and just needs a phone.
There is no 1 phone that is the best for everything. If it existed, it woudnt be cheap.. Just look at the 2 biggest players, Apple and Samsung.. their phones still has flaws and cost much more then Nexus devices, even though the nexus devices over the past years are getting up there... This device is just as good as any Samsung or iPhone (of the same year) IMHO...