Hi guys...
I don't know where else to ask, so I thought maybe some of you guys could help me out.
A while ago I made a free2play online game, and published it on Play Market. After my game was gone frome the Top New Free chart, the downloads has dropped significantly, so I decided to advertise my app via AdMob.
After the game has been promoted to 40K users, I've had... 15 new downloads in total. I'm sure Google would not cheat, as there were lots of others that have promoted their apps this way. Also, the referral link I've been using is working fine as I checked it myself. But I decided to double-check and purchased 5000 banner-clicks from the guys that has an Android app with lots of users. And I've had 3 downloads out of that.
So I was wondering... Is it possible that due to some software, or locale, or hardware, or any other issues, something could prevent people from downloading my game over the refferal link? What could be those issues? Or is this a real conversion rate? If you had used AdMob, what conversion rate did you have?
Any suggestions are much appreciated.
I had a similarly bad experience on admob as well. I wouldn't advise promoting your app there unless you've got extra money to spare.
Also, I've realized that the type of ad you put on there will have an impact. If you choose their standard ad, you will get the benefit of double tap verification and avoid accidental clicks. If you put a custom ad, you will lose that safety feature because a single click will open up the referral link.
Try pay-per-install services
I have the same situation in Admob. My best experience was with AppBrain. You pay for installs not for clicks.
I got the same problem too but eventually solve it by switching from CPM to CPI. However, the incident made me wonder: "should I always depend on Admob?".
So I decide to combine several Ad networks. It works. And I realize something about Admob:
Pros: It is reliable and has huge users database. Admob is backed by Google - a prestigious corporation who tracks every steps of anyone who use its service.
Cons:
- Its eCPM is low (I don't know exactly why but everytime I try another Ad network, they outperform Admob in terms of eCPM. I guess that Admob know it has advantages over competitors when it comes to reputation and users database, so It charge advertisers and publishers more)
- Its ban users more frequently. (Some of my friends' accounts got banned because Google thinks they was cheating, while infact he didn't. It was very difficult for him to reach Google support to recover his accounts).
after combining Admob and with Airpush, Leadbolt, StartApp, ChartBoost, I end up with Adsota - a lesser known ad network. Adsota is an has much higher eCPM, 100% fill-rate, and swift payment, various advertisng forms. You can find it by googling "ads.appota".
Best of luck, mate!
hi guys
i'm new in android development and currently working on my first app
i have too many questions, i googled it but no clear answers and i still puzzled
should i have a specific kind of bank account to receive the money from an add network via wire transfer ? BTW i live in egypt
what is the CPC, CTR eCPM, CPM.....? i saw a lot of abbreviations like those and cant understand
how users can see your app when it just published ? or how user can see the most new published apps ?
any help with ( answers, sharing knowledge, sharing references ...) would be greatly appreciated by me and by every noob like me seeking for answers
zezooo16 said:
hi guys
i'm new in android development and currently working on my first app
i have too many questions, i googled it but no clear answers and i still puzzled
should i have a specific kind of bank account to receive the money from an add network via wire transfer ? BTW i live in egypt
what is the CPC, CTR eCPM, CPM.....? i saw a lot of abbreviations like those and cant understand
how users can see your app when it just published ? or how user can see the most new published apps ?
any help with ( answers, sharing knowledge, sharing references ...) would be greatly appreciated by me and by every noob like me seeking for answers
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Hello!
Hope this info helps:
Question 1. While you don't need to use a specific bank, you should check with your bank to make sure that they accept international wire transfers. Sometimes this a problem with local bank branches.
Question 2. CPA/CPI: “cost per acquisition/install”; CPC: “cost per click”; CPM: “cost per mille (thousand)”
Each of the above is a tool for measuring the worth of a particular ad campaign. CPA/CPI measures the campaign based on the amount of users who signed up for a service or downloaded an app after seeing an ad. CPC measures the campaign based on the number of users who click on an ad. CPM measures the campaign based on a thousand users who saw an ad.
Most ad networks run on a combination of the above measurement tools, and each is also an effective way of pricing an ad campaign.
CTR is the common abbreviation for “click-through rate”, and it refers to the number of users who click on a link of advertisement. High CTR is always an important goal for advertisers and developers.
For advertisers, high CTR reflects an effective ad campaign that captured user attention. For developers, high CTR is an important factor in earning high revenue and contributes to high eCPM.
eCPM means “effective cost per mille”, and it is used as a tool by app developers when comparing ad-based monetization strategies on the various ad networks. Ad networks with high eCPM (although eCPM does vary from day to day) are usually more successful and earn developers more revenue from ads.
Calculating eCPM is simple:
total earnings/impressions * 1000
(total earnings divided by impressions, multiplied by 1000)
You can also think about it like this:
CTR*Conversion Rate*Revenue per Conversion*1000
(CTR multiplied by Conversion Rate multiplied by Revenue per Conversion multiplied by 1000)
If you are still unsure about how eCPM is used, check out this example:
Imagine that you are running two ad types in your app called “Interstitial 1” and “Interstitial 2”.
After a week or so of running the ads, you decide that it is time to evaluate the effectiveness of each ad. After reviewing the data, you see that “Interstitial 1” generated 345 impressions and $1.00 in earnings. “Interstitial 2” generated 740 impressions with $0.60 in earnings.
Based on these numbers alone, it can be difficult to determine which ad type was the most effective. This is where eCPM comes in.
After evaluating the first eCPM formula for each ad type, “Interstitial 1” has an eCPM of $2.89 and “Interstitial 2” has an eCPM of $0.81. “Interstitial 1” wins!
Question 3. Most app stores have a "New Releases" section or chart. Newly released apps will usually appear on there for a few hours to a full day, depending on the amount of apps released in your category.
If you have any more questions, feel free to PM me and I'll answer them the best I can
Good luck!
Best,
Cassidy Smith
Social Networks Manager at StartApp
You are the best Lady
CassidyStartApp said:
Hello!
Hope this info helps:
Question 1. While you don't need to use a specific bank, you should check with your bank to make sure that they accept international wire transfers. Sometimes this a problem with local bank branches.
Question 2. CPA/CPI: “cost per acquisition/install”; CPC: “cost per click”; CPM: “cost per mille (thousand)”
Each of the above is a tool for measuring the worth of a particular ad campaign. CPA/CPI measures the campaign based on the amount of users who signed up for a service or downloaded an app after seeing an ad. CPC measures the campaign based on the number of users who click on an ad. CPM measures the campaign based on a thousand users who saw an ad.
Most ad networks run on a combination of the above measurement tools, and each is also an effective way of pricing an ad campaign.
CTR is the common abbreviation for “click-through rate”, and it refers to the number of users who click on a link of advertisement. High CTR is always an important goal for advertisers and developers.
For advertisers, high CTR reflects an effective ad campaign that captured user attention. For developers, high CTR is an important factor in earning high revenue and contributes to high eCPM.
eCPM means “effective cost per mille”, and it is used as a tool by app developers when comparing ad-based monetization strategies on the various ad networks. Ad networks with high eCPM (although eCPM does vary from day to day) are usually more successful and earn developers more revenue from ads.
Calculating eCPM is simple:
total earnings/impressions * 1000
(total earnings divided by impressions, multiplied by 1000)
You can also think about it like this:
CTR*Conversion Rate*Revenue per Conversion*1000
(CTR multiplied by Conversion Rate multiplied by Revenue per Conversion multiplied by 1000)
If you are still unsure about how eCPM is used, check out this example:
Imagine that you are running two ad types in your app called “Interstitial 1” and “Interstitial 2”.
After a week or so of running the ads, you decide that it is time to evaluate the effectiveness of each ad. After reviewing the data, you see that “Interstitial 1” generated 345 impressions and $1.00 in earnings. “Interstitial 2” generated 740 impressions with $0.60 in earnings.
Based on these numbers alone, it can be difficult to determine which ad type was the most effective. This is where eCPM comes in.
After evaluating the first eCPM formula for each ad type, “Interstitial 1” has an eCPM of $2.89 and “Interstitial 2” has an eCPM of $0.81. “Interstitial 1” wins!
Question 3. Most app stores have a "New Releases" section or chart. Newly released apps will usually appear on there for a few hours to a full day, depending on the amount of apps released in your category.
If you have any more questions, feel free to PM me and I'll answer them the best I can
Good luck!
Best,
Cassidy Smith
Social Networks Manager at StartApp
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Really you are the best
Thank you very very veryyyyyy much about your excellent informative answer, i really appreciate your answer.
In fact, i have some more Questions
Can i monetize my app by putting an add in each activity from the same add netowrk? and if yes, all impressions for all adds in all activities will have the same (CTR , CPM..... etc) calculations ? or each add in each activity will have its own? and if no, can i make this idea by using different add network apps?
Sorry about my noob questions really this field is very confusing and sorry about my bad English.
Thank you again for your help
zezooo16 said:
Really you are the best
Thank you very very veryyyyyy much about your excellent informative answer, i really appreciate your answer.
In fact, i have some more Questions
Can i monetize my app by putting an add in each activity from the same add netowrk? and if yes, all impressions for all adds in all activities will have the same (CTR , CPM..... etc) calculations ? or each add in each activity will have its own? and if no, can i make this idea by using different add network apps?
Sorry about my noob questions really this field is very confusing and sorry about my bad English.
Thank you again for your help
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Hello,
No need for apologies; I'm happy to help
Yes, you can use multiple ads from the same network throughout your app. Or, if you'd like to try out multiple ad networks (many devs do!), you can use ads from different networks however you would like throughout your app. It's really up to you, and most networks are pretty flexible about letting developers control where the ads show up!
In most cases, a different ad will be displayed every time an adEvent is triggered. Since it is a different/new advertisement, the revenue calculations will be a bit different depending on the agreement that your ad network has with the advertiser (some run CPC campaigns, others run CPI campaigns, etc...)
Also, unless you are using only banner ads, I don't recommend placing an ad in every activity because the user may find it annoying and it could disrupt their experience. This is just a suggestion though You can also test out different ad placements to see which ones your users respond to the most.
If you have more questions, let me know!
Good luck!
Regards,
Cassidy
Social Networks Manager at StartApp
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CassidyStartApp said:
Hello,
No need for apologies; I'm happy to help
Yes, you can use multiple ads from the same network throughout your app. Or, if you'd like to try out multiple ad networks (many devs do!), you can use ads from different networks however you would like throughout your app. It's really up to you, and most networks are pretty flexible about letting developers control where the ads show up!
In most cases, a different ad will be displayed every time an adEvent is triggered. Since it is a different/new advertisement, the revenue calculations will be a bit different depending on the agreement that your ad network has with the advertiser (some run CPC campaigns, others run CPI campaigns, etc...)
Also, unless you are using only banner ads, I don't recommend placing an ad in every activity because the user may find it annoying and it could disrupt their experience. This is just a suggestion though You can also test out different ad placements to see which ones your users respond to the most.
If you have more questions, let me know!
Good luck!
Regards,
Cassidy
Social Networks Manager at StartApp
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Sorry i was too busy in the previous few days because i'm developing my first app
CassidyStartApp said:
No need for apologies; I'm happy to help
Yes, you can use multiple ads from the same network throughout your app. Or, if you'd like to try out multiple ad networks (many devs do!), you can use ads from different networks however you would like throughout your app. It's really up to you, and most networks are pretty flexible about letting developers control where the ads show up!
In most cases, a different ad will be displayed every time an adEvent is triggered. Since it is a different/new advertisement, the revenue calculations will be a bit different depending on the agreement that your ad network has with the advertiser (some run CPC campaigns, others run CPI campaigns, etc...)
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I really really really would like to thank you very very much for your informative answer, lady
CassidyStartApp said:
Also, unless you are using only banner ads, I don't recommend placing an ad in every activity because the user may find it annoying and it could disrupt their experience. This is just a suggestion though You can also test out different ad placements to see which ones your users respond to the most.
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Yes, i agree with you. i won't bother my first few users with annoying adds (which are too many or/and overlap UI elements....etc) i will take your advice, Thank you
You are one of the best i ever met. i can't ever forget someone helped me while taking my first steps
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Through years of working with ad exchanges ourselves we have determined one of the biggest problems we have encountered is the inability to determine how much money we make vs how much money the corporate machine makes and how we can increase our piece of the pie.
One thing we know for sure, we make the same amount of money per a click no matter what ad and it doesn't really change.... why? Does AdMob make the same money off each click and how much money do they make off the click? Its a black box that I'm sure is fully of cold hard cash.
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Best type of ad to promote mobile apps
When advertising your app to other countries start from the grass roots level which is pinpointing the countries which you will advertise first. This is important so will have a much clearer picture on who you would will to sell you app to.
Once you establish the list of countries the next thing that you should do is to localize your app. English may be the medium where individuals from different countries understand each other but what else could you do to attract more people to your app? Incorporate their local language in your app. Not all people can thoroughly understand English and are drawn to pay more attention to things that they could understand.
Now after doing all those things, you need to find a DSP (demand side platform) which has self-serve RTB(real time bidding) capabilities like Bluagile and start creating mobile web and in app campaigns. This is the most affordable, convenient and efficient way to run your campaigns. Using a DSP lets you connected with more or less 30 differennt ad exchages which means accessing more traffic than you can ever imagine over 200 countries worldwide. The cost wouldn't be a problem since it's a self-serve RTB you can bid whichever rate you would think would be best suitable for the campaign. Another great thing about this is that they have a brand safe inventory which is accessible through static banners. DSPs usually providereportings on their platform which is far better than getting separate reports from various blogs, article and sites. Creating a buzz in the world wide web is the best way to get more people interested in something new and investing in CPM (cost per 1000 impressions) is the perfect fit to achieve that goal.
To sum it all up, you're creating a mobile campaign using static banners to ensure bot free traffic at a very cheap and affordable cost and you can view the reportings on one area which is very convenient. Learn more about Bluagile by visiting the site:
bluagile . com
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Hello, I’m here to share my thoughts and tips about the Android app promotion
Here are the most useful tips which I have learnt promoting my Android Apps:
1) Start promoting your App while it’s still developing.
2) Make an announcement about your Application in news break. List its pros, benefits, emphasize strong sides. It helps to warm up the user’s perception and become more loyal to the newly released application.
3) Maximize its effectiveness in your inner market. I mean it must stand out among the similar applications and become visible for users when they type its name in search line. ASO service will help you to be different and recognized – pay attention on title, description, screenshots, and presence of keywords.
4) Use SMM channel. Talk as much as possible about your application in social networks, thematic blogs and forums.
5) Maintain AdWords campaign – it would provide you solely target audience on your App installation.
6) Use incent traffic service which provide you installs and high rate reviews– it cost not much, but ensure inflow of organic audience.
7) If you have several similar application – not use the same marketing campaign – try different channels and test measurements.
8) Run the keyword install campaigns for the cheapest rankings growth and raise your organic traffic
Would be great if people will add their own thoughts/marketing cases here. Concerning the different ad networks/platforms etc:angel:
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pay attention to your existing users
I may share one more tip
You might have developed an excellent app, but you might be forgetting about retention and loyalty. Observing recent app store algorithm updates, you can see that retention and app usage metrics are getting more important for the app stores than ever. Loyal users are about to be even more value for both Apple App Store as well as Google Play Store Algorithm.