Weird ram consumption I9500 - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey every one so since android lollipop i have ntoiced a really weird ram consumption on my s4 i9500 !!
Though i have deleted most samsung bloatware but the problem is still there
When i press clear ram it says 0 apps has been closed !!!!
So any idea
Or even an explanation for this
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Nothing much could be done I guess this is the design feature of 5.0.1 and touchwiz for a smooth experience. . Check from app manager ..most of the apps are in cache process for faster response .. remember in android less ram means unused resource .. and worry only when crash happens ..and reason for crash could be anything ..even ad in a website .. try latest rom ..
DaRkEMpRoR said:
Hey every one so since android lollipop i have ntoiced a really weird ram consumption on my s4 i9500 !!
Though i have deleted most samsung bloatware but the problem is still there
When i press clear ram it says 0 apps has been closed !!!!
So any idea
Or even an explanation for this
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jamesmcd said:
Nothing much could be done I guess this is the design feature of 5.0.1 and touchwiz for a smooth experience. . Check from app manager ..most of the apps are in cache process for faster response .. remember in android less ram means unused resource .. and worry only when crash happens ..and reason for crash could be anything ..even ad in a website .. try latest rom ..
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Yea sometimes the mobile hangs and some apps closes
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Have you tried factory reset ? .. Remember to take all the backups .. Disable features when you don't use (like Motions and Gestures, NFC) Uninstall apps that you don't use.. you can also disable some apps .. here is my list:
Chat on, Pre-installed games, Android Sytem webview, ANT service, Blurb, Chrome, Flipboard, Play Movies, Play Music, Newsstand, Google TTS, Google +, Group Play, Knox, S Health, S Translator, Samsung Galaxy, Link, Samsung Push, Watchon, Story Album, TripAdvisor
DaRkEMpRoR said:
Yea sometimes the mobile hangs and some apps closes
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What is killermobile ? This thing is always taking up space from my samsung galaxy s4

I do not know what this is, but google it and it has something to do with a call recorder software I wqs trying to install on my galaxy s4, but I wasnt able to get any of those apps working on my phone I lost hope on that, but every 6 hours or so my phone is saying that is the storage is low, so I go and see why and it's this killermobile thing. I delete it but it comes back again, I dont want to keep deleting that log file, and I dont have any call recorder app installed. Thank You if you can tell me how to get rid of it. The phone is rooted too, but I had the problem before I rooted it
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first off, uninstall advanced task killer...
Go in to manage applications and look for the killer mobile app or something possibly related
If you can't find anything there, then download a file manager from google play store and search for it under data/apps
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Do we need GooglePlayservices.apk?

I've removed the GooglePlayservices.apk from my phone and not one of the Google apps has lost functionality. What is it used for?
A message comes up in YouTube when I first open it after wiping cache saying I need GooglePlayservices.apk or it won't work but I dismiss it and it works fine.
Also Google search bar says it needs it to work...... It doesn't.
Anyone know what it says ACTUALLY used for?
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Obagleyfreer said:
I've removed the GooglePlayservices.apk from my phone and not one of the Google apps has lost functionality. What is it used for?
A message comes up in YouTube when I first open it after wiping cache saying I need GooglePlayservices.apk or it won't work but I dismiss it and it works fine.
Also Google search bar says it needs it to work...... It doesn't.
Anyone know what it says ACTUALLY used for?
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Hi There,
Google Play services is used to update Google apps and apps from Google Play. This app gives you access to Google Settings and helps apps speed up offline searches. So this is basically the gateway between you're apps and google play store. Most off the apps we install uses this app to connect to the play store to check for their updates. If not found the apps (especially google apps) may result in an error or FC.
It doesn't take up that much space or resources. So you may as well keep it.
Hope that helped
He can't keep it. He's deleted it. Ha.
I've disables this app because even if it does not take a lot of space, it is running in background and consuming RAM, CPU and internet data.
Everything works fine without it.
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Hi There,
Google Play services is used to update Google apps and apps from Google Play. This app gives you access to Google Settings and helps apps speed up offline searches. So this is basically the gateway between you're apps and google play store. Most off the apps we install uses this app to connect to the play store to check for their updates. If not found the apps (especially google apps) may result in an error or FC.
It doesn't take up that much space or resources. So you may as well keep it.
Hope that helped
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I can still see updates available for apps in Google Play without googleplayservices though...........So I don't think you're correct about apps using it to check for updates, they all still work the same.
I've never had one force close since removing it and I can update all my Google apps perfectly fine.
That's why I'm asking, it seems like a pointless app.
It just runs in the background using up RAM and battery.
The processor overhead of looking for it and generating errors and going to the play store may use more battery. Not 100 percent sure though. I'll check. Seems similar to deleting cache /killing a thread takes more to rebuild than leave alone.
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[SOLVED] Following games not working on S4 [Please lock]

Hi I want to start a list of games (or apps) which are not working on s4 on stock tw rom android version 4.2.2
To start with below are he games which I have tested not working:
Games:
Chess Free - AI Factory - Game loads but freezes and crash when about to start a game
Fruit Ninja - Halfbrick - Game loads but the game is slow (1st fruit throw is slow, second one will make the app crash)
Chess Software - Optime - Game loads but freezes when about to start a game
Issue already solved, kindly lock the thread as it may lead to wrong information about apps.
It seems that "LockIt" accessibility service is causing the issue (its a nice app to protect running other app, but i have to turn it off to play these games)
Fruit ninja works fine. Free and paid versions. List already wrong.
Edit : chess free working too.
You might need to factory reset and reinstall your apps.
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Working fine on my phone.looks like u need to factory reset ur device
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kof200440 said:
Working fine on my phone.looks like u need to factory reset ur device
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I havent yet flashed any rom on my phone that's why I dont think factory reset will solve the issue. Some other users commented in the play store that the game(Fruit Ninja) is unplayable with the recent update.
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I think i've figured out the problem, it is the app "LockIt" by PA. If the accessibility option of lock it is enabled, the said apps runs extremely slow causing it to crash
AI Factory chess (paid) works fine for me on I9505 (didn't try the free version but they're essentially the same thing).

Setting Force close?

Upgraded to 4.4 with a clean wipe. I uninstalled some of the Google apps I never use such as currents ect. After awhile some apps start to force close such as settings. After I reboot or wipe cache or both the apps then reinstall themselves. Strange. I have never had a problem like this in any other version of android. Anyone else?
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yea, i found out two weeks ago that you cant uninstall system apps in kitkat without getting a fc in settings. my way around it, i disabled 19 of the apps found in /system/app/ instead of deleting them. it seems to work just as well. pick any of the apps, select to view its info, tben press disable in the app info screen. itll remove that app from the app drawer as well.
Thanks Simms. Your one helpful dude! I always felt better totally getting ride of them to open up more space but it is what it is.
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jto101680 said:
Thanks Simms. Your one helpful dude! I always felt better totally getting ride of them to open up more space but it is what it is.
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its what i do too, and always done. i have found that you can delete a few apps in /system/app/, like plus one, but they cant be considered system apps. its one of the first things i noticed about kitkat, that settings fc after removing system apps.
simms22 said:
yea, i found out two weeks ago that you cant uninstall system apps in kitkat without getting a fc in settings. my way around it, i disabled 19 of the apps found in /system/app/ instead of deleting them. it seems to work just as well. pick any of the apps, select to view its info, tben press disable in the app info screen. itll remove that app from the app drawer as well.
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This is wrong on so many levels. After years rooting and running custom roms, I'm suddenly stuck with a load of bloatware if I upgrade to 4.4. I only use the account manager and Play Store and don't want any other Google apks, and would like to do without even those two, in fact I have no Google account 99% of the time and both are disabled unless I have to update something.
Hope there's a way out of this...
Screwgooled???
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Disable apps

What are the recommended apps to disable and/or get rid of? I did a factory reset because of nasty wake locks and trying to figure everything that can be disabled without losing features or anything. I know some of this is subjective, but still like some ideas. Thanks.
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List of them
jagrave said:
What are the recommended apps to disable and/or get rid of? I did a factory reset because of nasty wake locks and trying to figure everything that can be disabled without losing features or anything. I know some of this is subjective, but still like some ideas. Thanks.
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1.if you have two tts then disable one!
2.if you dont use apk's like chaton you can uninstall or disable it!
3.you can disable widgets that you dont use!
4.you can disable system lockscreen if you are using any second lockscreen from playstore.
5.disable useless apk's like samsung hub, watchon, Samsung apps etc.
Hit thanks if i helped you!
Mehul mehta said:
1.if you have two tts then disable one!
2.if you dont use apk's like chaton you can uninstall or disable it!
3.you can disable widgets that you dont use!
4.you can disable system lockscreen if you are using any second lockscreen from playstore.
5.disable useless apk's like samsung hub, watchon, Samsung apps etc.
Hit thanks if i helped you!
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What is tts? I think part of the problem is that I don't know what certain things are. For example, wh as the is the travel wallpaper?
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jagrave said:
What is tts? I think part of the problem is that I don't know what certain things are. For example, wh as the is the travel wallpaper?
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Tts is text to speech! Its used in s voice! And travel wallpaper is for wallpaper scrolling! If you dont want your wallpaper to scroll then you can diaable it! Anything else?
Mehul mehta said:
Tts is text to speech! Its used in s voice! And travel wallpaper is for wallpaper scrolling! If you dont want your wallpaper to scroll then you can diaable it! Anything else?
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You said if you have two tts, where would I find them? One isn't showing up under all my apps.
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Tts
Two tts means mybe you have google tts and samsung tts both on your s5!so you u can disable one!
Go to settings and then to application manager in general tab!
Go to system apps and go through the list of apps!
Background apks like tts never show in the apps!
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Two tts means mybe you have google tts and samsung tts both on your s5!so you u can disable one!
Go to settings and then to application manager in general tab!
Go to system apps and go through the list of apps!
Background apks like tts never show in the apps!
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OK I see them. Which one should I disable, Samsung or google?
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By the way s5 is awesome! Even my s2 is completely s5
The useless one is samsung tts you can disable that one!
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The useless one is samsung tts you can disable that one!
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Won't let me disable that one lol
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Until I can completely remove some bloat, I have the following turned off so far. It's by no means a thorough list.
Accessories
Audible
BlurbCheckout
Calculator (installed 3rd party Calculator)
Caller Name ID
Cloud
FamilyBase Companion
Google Play Books
HP Print Service Plugin
Message+ (Didn't even bother to figer out what this is before I killed it)
Messages (installed Hangouts and/or 3rd party messagin app)
My InfoZone
NFL Mobile
Smart Remote (downloaded the latest WatchOn app from Samsung)
Swype
Verizon Location Agent
Verizon Support and Protection
Verizon Tones
VZ Navigator
As far as the text-to-speech deletion goes, just uninstall whichever ones you don't anticipate needing.
Settings>Language and Input>text-to-speech options>Listen to an example. Really it's personal preference, and uninstalling unused tts voice data only serves to free up internal storage. For example, the "high quality" female English US voice for Google TTS is 244MB, The Samsung high quality voice data is around 90MB per language/gender.
jagrave said:
Won't let me disable that one lol
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Samsung has launched s5 devices with less permissions do to whatever you want! So maybe you have to root your device (which is not possible right now bcoz it will cut your warranty out) So another solution for it is try to search for an app on play store which disables system applications! Without root
I've turned off the following:
Accessories
Audible
Blurb Checkout
Caller Name ID
Family Base Companion
Flipboard
Google Play Books
Google Play Newsstand
IMDb
Isis Mobile Wallet
My InfoZone
My Magazine
NFL Mobile
Samsung Link Platform
Slacker
Smart Remote
VZ Navigator
This is my complete list... everything still works (except the Samsung bloat crap like S-voice and the verizon garbage pre-loaded). I did turn off some Google apps that were needless, and the Samsung fitness stuff (e.g. ANT+ connection, fitness, etc.), in addition to other things (S-pen, fonts, etc.)
ravenofdoom said:
This is my complete list... everything still works (except the Samsung bloat crap like S-voice and the verizon garbage pre-loaded). I did turn off some Google apps that were needless, and the Samsung fitness stuff (e.g. ANT+ connection, fitness, etc.), in addition to other things (S-pen, fonts, etc.)
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What are things like samsung billing, the app that just says samsung galaxy, and samsung link? What do they do?
jagrave said:
What are things like samsung billing, the app that just says samsung galaxy, and samsung link? What do they do?
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I believe samsung billing is for app purchases through their proprietary app store
Samsung Link is a protocol for connecting only with samsung TV's/laptops - has functionality for screen-mirroring, DLNA only with samsung branded devices.
Samsung Galaxy... I'm not entirely sure what it does to be honest. I've tested fairly extensively if any functionality / apps / services are broken as a result, and everything still seems to work fine. I have a suspicion that this is related to a tutorial/demo function.
ravenofdoom said:
I believe samsung billing is for app purchases through their proprietary app store
Samsung Link is a protocol for connecting only with samsung TV's/laptops - has functionality for screen-mirroring, DLNA only with samsung branded devices.
Samsung Galaxy... I'm not entirely sure what it does to be honest. I've tested fairly extensively if any functionality / apps / services are broken as a result, and everything still seems to work fine. I have a suspicion that this is related to a tutorial/demo function.
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Ah ok, thanks! I see that you have the "Downloads" app turned off. What does that app do? I know it's part of media, which is giving me a lot of wakelocks. The three things that are part of "Media", can you uninstall all three, and what does each one do?
ravenofdoom said:
I believe samsung billing is for app purchases through their proprietary app store
Samsung Link is a protocol for connecting only with samsung TV's/laptops - has functionality for screen-mirroring, DLNA only with samsung branded devices.
Samsung Galaxy... I'm not entirely sure what it does to be honest. I've tested fairly extensively if any functionality / apps / services are broken as a result, and everything still seems to work fine. I have a suspicion that this is related to a tutorial/demo function.
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This is with 2 hour 11 min screen on time. So Not Bad At All. (Not sure why, but keyboard randomly does that) but it is waking up a lot.
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jagrave said:
Ah ok, thanks! I see that you have the "Downloads" app turned off. What does that app do? I know it's part of media, which is giving me a lot of wakelocks. The three things that are part of "Media", can you uninstall all three, and what does each one do?
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Downloads app is just an app that shows a history/list of everything you've recently downloaded (e.g. in the downloads folder). I prefer to use ESFileExplorer as it's more versatile as a file manager, and I don't care for an app that tracks file downloads/history.
In previous android versions, I believe the Media app was part of what cached/listed files such as images (thumbnails), music files, docs, etc. I vaguely recall disabling it in the past to find that all my MP3's and photos no longer appeared in the gallery/google music app. I would not disable it if my memory serves me correctly.
Yeah, your battery usage looks about in-par with mine. I came from a GNex and was used to seeing display always overtaking androidOS/systemUI (man, that phone had atrocious battery life and screen-on time)... the GS5 has such a great power-sipping display that I came to the same surprise as you to find it ranks on-par/sometimes below OS usage in a normal day. The battery life on this phone rocks.
EDIT: Media usage will sometimes spike if you've recently added a bunch of new files (photos, mp3's, etc.) to your device, as it's scanning/caching/indexing lists to the files. I'd give it a day or two if that's the case, and you'll see it won't consume much of anything once things are static on your phone.
ravenofdoom said:
Downloads app is just an app that shows a history/list of everything you've recently downloaded (e.g. in the downloads folder). I prefer to use ESFileExplorer as it's more versatile as a file manager, and I don't care for an app that tracks file downloads/history.
In previous android versions, I believe the Media app was part of what cached/listed files such as images (thumbnails), music files, docs, etc. I vaguely recall disabling it in the past to find that all my MP3's and photos no longer appeared in the gallery/google music app. I would not disable it if my memory serves me correctly.
Yeah, your battery usage looks about in-par with mine. I came from a GNex and was used to seeing display always overtaking androidOS/systemUI (man, that phone had atrocious battery life and screen-on time)... the GS5 has such a great power-sipping display that I came to the same surprise as you to find it ranks on-par/sometimes below OS usage in a normal day. The battery life on this phone rocks.
EDIT: Media usage will sometimes spike if you've recently added a bunch of new files (photos, mp3's, etc.) to your device, as it's scanning/caching/indexing lists to the files. I'd give it a day or two if that's the case, and you'll see it won't consume much of anything once things are static on your phone.
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Oh OK. I see. So perfectly safe to disable downloads. What about the media app itself? Do you have it disabled? That screen shot with the high media usage, I'm not sure we have it was so high. It's first time it has been like that and I haven't added any more music. Another question.
Do You Know What The Chrome sandbox is? And does your keyboard ever do that thing with the capital letters?
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jagrave said:
Oh OK. I see. So perfectly safe to disable downloads. What about the media app itself? Do you have it disabled? That screen shot with the high media usage, I'm not sure we have it was so high. It's first time it has been like that and I haven't added any more music. Another question.
Do You Know What The Chrome sandbox is? And does your keyboard ever do that thing with the capital letters?
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I don't have the media app disabled and wouldn't recommend it. I also wouldn't disable chrome sandbox ( though I'm not sure of its function, its installed alongside the app so it may be a plugin for other apps).
Not sure what keyboard caps problem you're referring to. I use only the android keyboard (not Samsung nor Swype).

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