Hi everyone! I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 4, with Cyanogenmod12 and Flux White Theme in use.
Yesterday I used the charging brick from an iPad, and the Charging cable of a RavPower Battery Pack to charge my Note 4. It was very hot when I woke up.
Now when I try to boot it up, it is stuck on the boot animation. I tried to charge it with the stock charger and brick, which when it charges, is cooler, but it still won't fire up.
When I woke up, the battery was hot. Now, the area to the left of the battery, near the area of the sim card, is hot when I try to boot it up, AND sometimes the battery.
I have T-Mobile Jump!, but I already had to replace this phone once. I don't want to do it again. Any ways that I could fix it without sending it in to T-Mobile?
I saw on a forum to try to charge it with the stock charger overnight, so I might try that.
Thanks!
-cyanogen_patrick
Hmmm very strange problem, normally when you use a bad or faulty charger you could damage the PMIC that regulates the power in a device and also oversees the charging current.
Normally the phone would still be able to boot but it does no charging anymore but your phone stays at a bootloop, that would suggest damage on the NAND, the part you decribe near the sim holder is the part where the CPU/RAM and NAND memory are.
I really hope it's not hardware damage because if ur on CM they could refuse warranty. You could go balls deep and brick the complete phone that it does not do anything anymore and just say it happened after a kies update and they will change the mainboard under warranty.
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Hmmm very strange problem, normally when you use a bad or faulty charger you could damage the PMIC that regulates the power in a device and also oversees the charging current.
Normally the phone would still be able to boot but it does no charging anymore but your phone stays at a bootloop, that would suggest damage on the NAND, the part you decribe near the sim holder is the part where the CPU/RAM and NAND memory are.
I really hope it's not hardware damage because if ur on CM they could refuse warranty. You could go balls deep and brick the complete phone that it does not do anything anymore and just say it happened after a kies update and they will change the mainboard under warranty.
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Thanks! I got it working yesterday by going into recovery and getting on my stock rom, but thank you for that!
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Now when I plug it into the charger, it just goes to the Core Cell splash screen, for like a split second then turns off, then does it repeatedly... I donnu, how to charge my phone, I donnu what to do, please help.
like i ttly hope someone can halp...i donnu wut it iz.
i wuz in yor phonez checking ur batterys, and it looked mkay to meh.
lol.
I don't know WTF is going on here... My phone is like constantly just reloading the same thing, every 4 seconds, it just loads the Splash screen for less than a second, turns off, then does it again, this is while it's plugged into the charger, when it's taken off the charger, nothing happens, I can't ever turn the phone on...
You've obviously got a bad phone.....take it in to your local store T-mobile and have them look at it.
Have you tried plugging your phone into the computer to try syncing/charging it that way, or just into the wall?
I tried the computer, that takes longer to get the splash screen to come up, & there is no T-mobile in Australia, plus I don't have a stock rom, and HSPL.
Try taking your battery out and making sure that none of the pins that make contact with the battery are bent or broken. It is easy to bend the pins and it can prevent charging of the battery.
Another option may be to hold the volume down button during this startup loop and see if you can get into the bootloader. It should charge in the bootloader and it may stop the looping. After charging for a while just restart and all should be well.
I have also had this and other strange things happen when the battery is depleted or very low. I try to not get below 10% anymore just in case.
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Try taking your battery out and making sure that none of the pins that make contact with the battery are bent or broken. It is easy to bend the pins and it can prevent charging of the battery.
Another option may be to hold the volume down button during this startup loop and see if you can get into the bootloader. It should charge in the bootloader and it may stop the looping. After charging for a while just restart and all should be well.
I have also had this and other strange things happen when the battery is depleted or very low. I try to not get below 10% anymore just in case.
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I fixed the issue last night, I chucked my Battery into the Freezer, for like... more than 8 hours, woke up, and plugged my phone back together, and it charged, without booting up and restart
So all good
Obviously, your battery was terrified by what happenned to the chicken and the turkey in your freezer and decided to behave!
I really don't think it's a good idea to put a freezing cold battery into a warm handset.....that's a recipe for condensation and rust and/or water damage.
I bought a second hand HD2, however it arrived with a third-party chinese battery. I contacted the seller who apologised and said that battery was a replacement because the original didn't hold a good charge, and he would send the original through the post. The battery however was fully charged so I flashed all the neccessary files and installed NAND Android (my reason for buying it in the first place), however today - the same day it arrived - I noticed that the orange charge light was going off, usually when the phone screen went off. This necessitated plugging the USB lead back in again, and within sometimes less than a minute the same problem would occur. I have checked the battery prongs, reset the the phone, changed USB settings etc and the problem persists.
Just wondered of I should be worried...I am unable to find an identical problem to this on the forums so I'm assuming it's not a ROM issue. I am currently using the Desire port from DFT.
Would a cheap Chinese battery demonstrate this sort of problem?
The seller says he never had an issue of charging the phone.
My next resort is to flash Windows Mobile back on, but I'm at work and a bit anxious so was hoping for someone with some experience to reassure me!
All USB syncing etc works fine...it is literally just charging that's the issue.
Maybe it's your USB that's faulty. I had a faulty usb that would go on and off sometimes too. However I don't see why the battery would affect the LED light, as the battery has to be connected to the phone for it to stay on, and so the battery can't be losing it's connection with the phone randomly, so it's either your usb cord, or the port.
Word of advice, don't let your phone lose power cuz of the faulty charging. I assume you know that MAGLDR doesn't let you charge the phone while off, so a dead battery in our case, is a dead phone. Happened to me once cuz of my usb, luckily there was still a small amount of charge left after i took the battery out and placed it back in.
It's definitely not the cable as I've used an official HTC charger with it which does exactly the same thing. I've also tried with a Samsung MicroUSB charger from my Galaxy S
Maybe it's the usb port then... That's the worst case scenario because you'd have to get the whole motherboard replaced...
However if in winmo you don't experience the problems, then it was just some software problems, so try a different radio and build, and see if they work.
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Or maybe it's the LED that's faulty. (never heard of such a situation but anything is possible) >.>
Does it still charge even if the LED is not orange/on?
Thing is though I can pretty much get it to stay charging if I don't let it lock and the screen go off? Could this still be a problem with the USB port? I'm getting worried now as I don't like the hassle of sending things back through eBay. I'm wondering if the seller bought a spare battery thinking it was just a battery problem and isn't telling the whole story. Foolishly I didn't test the device with Windows Mobile, I just went straight into flashing as I had put Android on my friend's HD2 the other day in exactly the same way...his is even an ex Virgin Mobile phone like this one. Needless to say, he is having no charging issues.
Dude dont worry , the problem is the battery ! i got two chinese battery ones and both cant charge with the phone, i have to use eksternal charger Dont worry the red and orange led flashes constantly when i try to charge it
Just buy a cheap charger from ebay , and buy a oem htc hd2 battery
Hi thanks for your reply. Mine doesn't flash red and orange though: the orange light comes on as normal and the phone reports it as charging, but after a while (seems to be when the phone goes to standby most of the time) the orange light turns off and the charging symbol disappears. If I unplug and replug again the light comes back on for a period. I've not tested thoroughly but I THINK it will stay charging when I leave the phone out of standby with the screen set to stay on for 30 minutes. I really HOPE it's a battery issue but it sounds slightly different to yours as mine does at least charge to a degree. I'm worried there's a blown capacitor somewhere on the logic board that's making the phone charge malfunction but obviously there's no way of testing until I get a new battery.
It concerns me that the seller said he had no charging problems...he must have been able to charge it somehow as the battery was full when it arrived...could I have burnt something out when flashing?!
Mine do charge to about 50 % and then it stops
Im 100 % sure its the battery becouse the battery has a circuitboard inside of it, and thats often messed up considering its made cheap in china . But test it with your friends hd2 original battery You can 2 see if the wet indicatior has been activated
the " white " paper next to the battery poles should be white and not pink, alltso where the skrewholes of the phone that should allso be white just to make sure your phone is not waterdamaget
I don't think flashing could have burnt something out. Overclocking and generating a lot of heat can burn something out though.
Didn't you receive the stock battery? Why not try it with that, and if the problem stilll persists then it might not be the battery. Either way, it will help you to test out the phone with a stock battery.
I tried it again after a few hours and it charged for a fair while before the light went off again.
I don't have the original battery as the seller has yet to mail it to me.
Does anyone else think it's worth me trying out a stock Windows Mobile ROM to see if it works? Might be that Android ROMs are less forgiving of cheap batteries with dodgy circuitry..
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Ok so I've flashed Windows Mobile onto the device and wiped Magldr. The phone now alternates between a green and an amber light on the charging indicator. Looks like Windows Mobile won't charge it at all!
Does anyone know what this means?
I've checked for water damage in the areas mentioned and there is no sign.
Well your best bet is to send it in for repairs. But I'd suggest you test the phone out first with a stock battery.
Well I Only bought the phone yesterday so I certainly won't be paying for any repairs.
Got a replacement battery today - a genuine HTC one.
Plugged in, switched on....flashing between amber and green
I have a nagging suspicion this is going to be an eBay refund nightmare.
have you checked that the pins on the phone is not bendt? pins where battery poles connect to phone
problem solved? fingers crossed
OK so as a last resort I flashed radio 2.15 to the device. Seems that this has completely fixed the problem as without even restoring the phone is now charging properly. It seems that a corrupted radio flash had affected the charge somehow....at least I hope so.
The same problem has not come back again today at all.
Might be worth throwing this solution in a problems and solutions section as I haven't found any reference to it on the net and it might fix things for others panicking over their handsets.
That's nice.
Good for you, since it's a hassle to deal with sending back the device and shizz like that.
was just searching is anyone had a similar problem like me. to the OP yours sounds like my problem.
Had these fake OEM batteries for a while now. Until recently they have been charging ang turning off in 1 1/2 minutes. put a genuine OEM battery in and the problem is gone.
My solution was OEM can charge thru phone but fakes cant, use fakes as backup and charge it thru a desktop charger. goodluck
not boot looping, just nothing at all. The phone won't power on.
The battery ran completely out, but now, after charging it overnight, it will not power on at all. I've seen various threads saying to take the battery out for 30 min or so, try pulling the battery & SD card WHILE it's plugged into the charger, try booting it with no battery at all (just charger), and all of them state to use the wall charger, as being in a PC USB port won't be enough.
I've tried everything, but nada.
My phone is/was running the rooted gingerblur leak, which I installed correctly by SBFing first beforehand and doing a total wipe. I honestly didn't even bother reinstalling very many apps, I've been so busy at work over spring break. The phone HAD been shut down and restarted a few times since flashing the gingerblur, so this wasn't the first time it rebooted since then or anything.
Had a few force closes and random reboots over the time on gingerblur, and was actually not that excited about it, but now I'm stuck with a brick it looks like.... any ideas?
I had the same problem on mine it would stay at the boot logo and wouldnt go past that I called Verizon and they are sending me a replacement.
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I had the same problem on mine it would stay at the boot logo...
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Mine doesn't do *anything*... no boot logo, no nothing.
just got back from verizon with a new battery, works fine again... just posting as a followup. I thought it would be odd that even with a dead battery in the unit, it wouldn't power on with the wall charger attached, but with a new battery (got the extended one while I was at it) it works fine again.
another update: ate thru that battery, and died again. Recharging the new battery does nothing. Mine seems to have a hardware failure in general that it won't recharge batteries at all. New batteries come with some juice in them, but once that's gone it's gone.
Bought one more battery just to SBF it back to vanilla before I send it in for warranty service. Will keep this thread posted just in case anyone else runs into this... I hate finding threads with problems that just trail off with no resolution.
I'm not sure if they intended the DX to work like this, or whatever; but if my battery runs completely dead, the phone cannot charge it. I get the same green light you do, annnnd nothing when I try to power on.
What I have done to solve this in the past was to cut open the cable for either a 5v power supply or a usb cable. Either tape off the unused wires or be seriously careful not to go crossing wires, plug the charger in, and touch the appropriate cables to the battery terminals, (battery out of the phone). About a minute is all it takes to give it enough juice to charge in the phone with a standard charger.
Someone else posted a more in dept guide on this process, if you are unsure of any steps, please search for that rather than causing damage.
Not my fault if something bad happens from anyone following this; however, I have done this numerous times with zero issues.
happened to me twice and each time verizon replaces just after hearing the symptom. must be hw failure
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happened to me twice and each time verizon replaces just after hearing the symptom. must be hw failure
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Replaces Battery or phone?
yeah, final post on this, but Verizon is sending me a replacement phone. I've had the DX since launch, and this will be my third one, but they've always been good about sucking it up and just sending me a new one free of charge.
I bought two replacement batteries in total (which were both returned) -- one thinking that it was just a bad battery and another when it became apparent that wasn't the fix. I thought I'd be sending it to motorola for warranty, and wanted to flash the SBF back on to return it to vanilla.
Anyway, long story short: if you found this thread because you're having the same issues, just buy another battery, flash it back to stock, and take it in for replacement. Then you can return the battery.
Cheers.
I have the HD2 with HD7 flashed on it, and I've had it that way for quite a while now, well all of a sudden today, my battery completely died, so I plugged it in, and it just keeps rebooting, and it won't do anything unless it's plugged in. I saw somewhere about checking the gold prongs on the back, so I messed with them. One was bent and I straighted it, but it still keeps rebooting. So I have no clue what to do now.
Well try to take out the battery for 5 mins. Then put the charger into the phone. Then put in the battery. And see if it will boot up.
If it doesn't, then you need to charge the battery another way, your HD2 won't charge it. Say use someone else's HD2 that has winmo or cLK installed.
What I ended up doing, and I am not sure if it is a long term fix yet because the phone is still charging is. I took the SD card out, then started the phone. When it started it was like a brand new phone, then I put the SD card back in, turned the phone off then turned it back on again and it worked. Not sure why but it did. But if it happens again I will try your method. Thanks!
Ah nice. Having a dead battery sure is a pain. Just remember not to let it die next time, or you might be in trouble.
haha you are so right!
i found a solution to the HD2 charge problem but....
you won't like it.
one day i accidentally discharged my phone without putting it up for a recharge. the phone died.
so i try charging it with the stock charger, and the phone starts, but then mysteriously starts rebooting.
so i determine it's the battery. i buy another battery.
that didn't solve the issue though....... the fun part was, i went to a store and they had the solution. they told me the stock charger was the problem.
the problem, pertains from the charger not giving enuff charge in the beginning to sustain it's boot cycle. so the phone keeps rebooting.
the only solution the store had for me was to simply buy a charger with a *little* more kick.
so i did, and that solved the problem.
i bought a nokia charger with the same charge plug as the hd2.
the hd2 charges perfectly now.
yo bro just to let you know you really should research stuff before you ask. the symptom you are speaking of is well known and well documented. try switching roms by doing a system wipe in cwm. if it continutes to reboot after that then its the motherboard. the hd2 has inherent thermal issues. the solder underneath the cpu heats up and no longer makes good contact with the mobo. your options are replace or bake in the oven (there is a whole thread on it) or replace it. some work some dont after putting it in the oven. sad thing for an hd2 owner to have but hey with xda at least we all share the pain
I have the same problem when I use my HTC charger. But when I use my Samsung charger (came with my Galaxy Ace) HD2 boots normally. Also I noticed that when I use the phone on HTC charger battery keeps droping. I think it uses more power then the HTC charger charges. With my Samsung charger i dont have this problem.
Hello everyone my brother's Ph-1 keeps shutting down right after powering up, I have tried everything from factory resetting to trying a different charger, nothing seems to work. This happened after he didn't use the phone for almost a month, it worked perfectly before.
It powers off even when on charge or connected to the laptop.
The phone doesn't stay on for more than a minute or two which means i cannot use ADB to side load an update
The phone is running Android P and the April security update patch.
Please do help me out
Thanking you
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Hello everyone
Kalasingha said:
Hello everyone my brother's Ph-1 keeps shutting down right after powering up, I have tried everything from factory resetting to trying a different charger, nothing seems to work. This happened after he didn't use the phone for almost a month, it worked perfectly before.
It powers off even when on charge or connected to the laptop.
The phone doesn't stay on for more than a minute or two which means i cannot use ADB to side load an update
The phone is running Android P and the April security update patch.
Please do help me out
Thanking you
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It could be corrupted though it sounds a bit like a battery issue, to me. If battery discharges too much eg it didn't shut down itself properly when battery was at a low level (they retain more charge than shown to user so it can shut down with proper procedure) & the battery ran down past it's reserve the battery may not be able to be recharged with a normal charger even though you charge it. (Thought a battery specialist could possibly revive it with a boost charge, though I've only seen these used with industrial batteries)
with a "dead battery bootloop" sometimes you can get it going by booting when connected to the charger, but you'll probably need a new battery. Maybe also try boot into safe or recovery mode when connected to Essential charger. (I'm assuming your phone not corrupted, though as you haven't given us much info about exactly what happens & what you are seeing)
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It could be corrupted though it sounds a bit like a battery issue, to me. If battery discharges too much eg it didn't shut down itself properly when battery was at a low level (they retain more charge than shown to user so it can shut down with proper procedure) & the battery ran down past it's reserve the battery may not be able to be recharged with a normal charger even though you charge it. (Thought a battery specialist could possibly revive it with a boost charge, though I've only seen these used with industrial batteries)
with a "dead battery bootloop" sometimes you can get it going by booting when connected to the charger, but you'll probably need a new battery. Maybe also try boot into safe or recovery mode when connected to Essential charger. (I'm assuming your phone not corrupted, though as you haven't given us much info about exactly what happens & what you are seeing)
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The phone shuts down even when in recovery or safe mode whilst connected to the charger.
It does sometimes fully boot up and then shutdowns, but mostly shuts down while still on the essential logo.
If I may ask what do you mean by the phone might be corrupt?
Can one month of non usage cause the battery to die out?
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The phone shuts down even when in recovery or safe mode whilst connected to the charger.
It does sometimes fully boot up and then shutdowns, but mostly shuts down while still on the essential logo.
If I may ask what do you mean by the phone might be corrupt?
Can one month of non usage cause the battery to die out?
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by corrupt I mean some data that is part of the boot process causes bootloop so it shuts down, but as your phone is shutting down at different points in boot cycle I think it's probably battery
Leaving the phone turned off unused for longish periods should not be a problem normally even with a few % left in battery. And even if left turned on it should shut itself down when battery low & be able to boot up again after a month due to the battery "reserve" capacity (but possibly a month was too long). And if it was not recharged straight away and/or rebooted multiple times the battery "reserve" could fall too low and not have enough power to start/shutdown properly (possibly causing data corruption ... though l don't know if there is some sort of fail-safe boot procedure ) Then there is a possibility there is a hardware fault with battery/phone that meant battery lost too much power.
There were some tricks ie "boost charge" you could do with removable batteries that were in "deep sleep" as shown here for example
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TEXA7qIJ968
But they don't really work without taking your battery out (for us we might as well get a new battery when opening phone up, & there would be some risk that you damage battery as we do not know the exact charge to apply on this battery, which could cause unsafe battery) I wouldn't want to freeze my phone even though it should survive OK, as I'd be alittle concerned about long term effect on our screens small pixels (I remember the guys at popular mechanics put an old flip phone with little LCD screen in liquid nitrogen & it still worked after being warmed up!).
See https://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/low_voltage_cut_off
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firmware issues do not cause the issue you are describing
you have a hardware problem
sounds like a bad battery to me
good news is the battery is not difficult to replace (don't listen to ifixit I am not sure what they where smoking when they did there tear down)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCKxAQXdTJ8
don't bother with silly and wrong tricks like trying to hack the battery back to life its the wrong way todo
if the battery ever gets to that point then the battery is bad enough said
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don't listen to ifixit I am not sure what they where smoking when they did there tear down
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So true! )) As much as I respect the guys from iFixit, they screwed this one up pretty badly - basically, made a tutorial on how to destroy your phone. Fixez.com did much better.