Sooo I have a Note 3 9005 and am running rooted 4.3 jellybean. I wanted to upgrade to the official 5.0 rom for some time now but couldn't find the time (or couldn't be bothered tbh ) but latetly I've been thinking about it again and have decided to do it. I remember when i first looked into it, i read somewhere that i can't directly flash the 5.0 rom from 4.3 and i have to upgrade to 4.4 first and then 5.0?
Is that true? Has anybody done that? (upgrade from 4.3 directly to 5.0)
Anything I should know before doing it?
Thnx in andvance!
Btw, I have the MJ7 build
Are you rooted?
Just updated to the latest rom for your region, i would do a full wipe before changing android versions though.
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Yes, I am rooted (Knox 0x1) and also plan to do a full wipe. I remember reading something about the kernel versions from 4.3 to 5.0 not being compatible and that I have to update to 4.4 first, that's why I am aksing.
Thnx for your answer!
Vagouras said:
Yes, I am rooted (Knox 0x1) and also plan to do a full wipe. I remember reading something about the kernel versions from 4.3 to 5.0 not being compatible and that I have to update to 4.4 first, that's why I am aksing.
Thnx for your answer!
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Really? Why waste time on this. Go ahead and flash 4.4 then 5. What's the big deal.
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After upgraded my S4 i9500 from 4.2.2 to 4.3 XUEMJ5 via Kies, I'm having a lot of troubles regarding battery drain and overheating.
I came to the Samsung Services Center yesterday and asked them to downgrade my device back to 4.2.2, but their answer is "Sorry, we cannot do it. Once upgraded to 4.3, there is no way to reverse to 4.2" ?!?!!?!?!
Is it true? Has anybody tried to downgrade your S4 from 4.3 to 4.2
Thanks for your advice!
baoduyph said:
After upgraded my S4 i9500 from 4.2.2 to 4.3 XUEMJ5 via Kies, I'm having a lot of troubles regarding battery drain and overheating.
I came to the Samsung Services Center yesterday and asked them to downgrade my device back to 4.2.2, but their answer is "Sorry, we cannot do it. Once upgraded to 4.3, there is no way to reverse to 4.2" ?!?!!?!?!
Is it true? Has anybody tried to downgrade your S4 from 4.3 to 4.2
Thanks for your advice!
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I had the same issue. There seems to be a problem downgrading to certain 4.2.2 roms. I eventualy managed to downgrade using the South African version (I9500XXUBMH1) . After you've flashed this,you can re-flash whichever ROM you prefer.
Give it a go and let me know.
Cheers
you are you kidding
Adnan1973 said:
you are you kidding
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Me? No not at all ...
UtianG said:
I had the same issue. There seems to be a problem downgrading to certain 4.2.2 roms. I eventualy managed to downgrade using the South African version (I9500XXUBMH1) . After you've flashed this,you can re-flash whichever ROM you prefer.
Give it a go and let me know.
Cheers
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Are you really serious? So you can downgrade from 4.3 to 4.2.2 using that firmware? What does your knox say in download mode?
Lennyz1988 said:
Are you really serious? So you can downgrade from 4.3 to 4.2.2 using that firmware? What does your knox say in download mode?
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Unfortunately it states:
Current Binary: Custom
System Status: Custom
Warrant Bit: 1
But it doesn't really bother me for now, until I have to send it back for repairs I guess
I'm sure the Chainfire guys will eventually be able to reset this counter as the TriangleAway is currently not supporting the GS4 I9500.
Cheers
So is there a specific way you have to flash it or do i just use odin?
Do i flash the roms back to back or what?
What is the difference between devices hltetmo and hltecan? I have a hltecan. Will we need CyanogenMod compiled for hltecan? I notice that recoveries have different versions for both devices. Also I am wondering about downgrading for 4.4 (when it comes) to 4.3. Is there a surefire way to upgrade and downgrade between 4.4 TW 4.4 CM and 4.3TW? I would not mind voiding my Knox counter. Just worried about being stuck or getting a brick for another 21 months on contract :silly:
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What is the difference between devices hltetmo and hltecan? I have a hltecan. Will we need CyanogenMod compiled for hltecan? I notice that recoveries have different versions for both devices. Also I am wondering about downgrading for 4.4 (when it comes) to 4.3. Is there a surefire way to upgrade and downgrade between 4.4 TW 4.4 CM and 4.3TW? I would not mind voiding my Knox counter. Just worried about being stuck or getting a brick for another 21 months on contract :silly:
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you cant downgrade if you want cm you have to stay on 4.3 for now
jaythenut said:
you cant downgrade if you want cm you have to stay on 4.3 for now
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Sigh. I would do anything to be able to upgrade and downgrade between versions. Even Knox counter. If anyone finds something let me know
jtl999 said:
Sigh. I would do anything to be able to upgrade and downgrade between versions. Even Knox counter. If anyone finds something let me know
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I played around a bit earlier... The only firmware you can upgrade to 4.4.2 and downgrade back to 4.3 is the mexican telco one for the n900w8, however I had some issues but will play some more tomorrow when I get time. As for KNOX, it's just one of them things we have to live with I'm afraid..
EDIT: I'm gonna mess with the bootloader and see, doubt it can be matched/mixed to work with the N9005 but what's the harm in trying.
radicalisto said:
I played around a bit earlier... The only firmware you can upgrade to 4.4.2 and downgrade back is the mexican telco one for the n900w8, however I had some issues but will play some more tomorrow when I get time. As for KNOX, it's just one of them things we have to live with I'm afraid..
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Please try with Telus firmware please. Currently on MJ1
radicalisto said:
I played around a bit earlier... The only firmware you can upgrade to 4.4.2 and downgrade back to 4.3 is the mexican telco one for the n900w8, however I had some issues but will play some more tomorrow when I get time. As for KNOX, it's just one of them things we have to live with I'm afraid..
EDIT: I'm gonna mess with the bootloader and see, doubt it can be matched/mixed to work with the N9005 but what's the harm in trying.
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The harm in trying is a hardbrick.
Well yes there is that, however I am not overly fussed about it, as most HB's can be revived. I am aware of all the risks, so will be my fault 100% if I brick myself.
I upgraded my note 3 yesterday to android 4.4 with cm 11, using the probam rom.
I noticed that it lacked the s pen features, so i downgraded back to stock rom.
Download a stock rom and flash it trough twrp
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Rajito said:
I upgraded my note 3 yesterday to android 4.4 with cm 11, using the probam rom.
I noticed that it lacked the s pen features, so i downgraded back to stock rom.
Download a stock rom and flash it trough twrp
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Flash a tar.md5 through twrp? What version of the stock rom?
Did you have the new bootloader?
Rajito said:
I upgraded my note 3 yesterday to android 4.4 with cm 11, using the probam rom.
I noticed that it lacked the s pen features, so i downgraded back to stock rom.
Download a stock rom and flash it trough twrp
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CM is based on MJ/MK Bootloader. You could run Android 9.6 and it'd make no difference. It's all about the bootloader
radicalisto said:
CM is based on MJ/MK Bootloader. You could run Android 9.6 and it'd make no difference. It's all about the bootloader
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Sorry. Can't understand exactly. What exactly means what versions you can run with a new bootloader?
MJ7 is the bootloader that powers CM currently. You need a bootloader to be able to boot into the operating system. Like a key into the phone.
If you upgrade your bootloader to a newer version aka NA6 it locks the phone. Therefore anything that runs lower than NA6 aka MJ7 won't work.
Think of it like, you broke your door, you got a new door and tried to use the old key. It no long works.
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MJ7 is the bootloader that powers CM currently. You need a bootloader to be able to boot into the operating system. Like a key into the phone.
If you upgrade your bootloader to a newer version aka NA6 it locks the phone. Therefore anything that runs lower than NA6 aka MJ7 won't work.
Think of it like, you broke your door, you got a new door and tried to use the old key. It no long works.
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I know how bootloaders work. Isn't there a way to omit bootloaders from Odin tar.md5 updates? Once I/Someone figures that out I'm golden staying with my old bootloader. Currently on MJ1.
jaythenut said:
you cant downgrade if you want cm you have to stay on 4.3 for now
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hi, can you elaborate?
i always thought samsung doesn't let you downgrade to an older bootloader. but if you install CM (not samsung official updates) the bootloader doesn't get updated so you can downgrade in the future.
unless you upgrade to 4.4.2 official samsung ROM and update the bootloader, then you'll never be able to downgrade again?
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Flash a tar.md5 through twrp? What version of the stock rom?
Did you have the new bootloader?
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No, if you want to try out kitkat i recommend you to use a cyanogenmod based 4.4 like probam, it doesn't update your bootloader and you can just downgrade back to jellybean
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for years, the first thing i did when i got a new phone was root it and install a new ROM.
Now things seem to be different for me.
i immediately rooted my phone but regret not researching this phone and Android 4.3 and 4.4 better before rooting.
i noticed a lot of the roms require that you flash the leaked KitKat. i tried to do this but it fails every time. So i figured i will just stick to what i have now and wait until the official OTA update.
Well that can't be done since i rooted my phone.
Now for my questions.
Do i need KitKat before installing CarbonROM and if not can i install this instead of the leaked ROM as a prerequisite to other 4.4 based ROMs?
Is it plausible, and perhaps better, to wait for an official KitKat firmware to be downloadable from XDA?
Is there anyway i can get OTA to work again on my rooted device?
Is it worth going all the way back to stock ROM and unrooted device just for OTA release of KitKat?
Is that even possible now that KNOX has been tripped?
Thanks in advance.
Any CM based rom still requires JELLY BEAN'S Boot loader.. so if you want CM/CARBON/AOSB etc then do not upgrade to 4.4.2
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Hi there,
I have a Galaxy S4 i9505 with official Samsung 4.3 Stock ROM from a different country which I had flashed using ODIN a while ago. I already have my knox counter tripped to 0x1 because I had also installed custom recovery and rooted.
Would I be able to flash CM11 (Android Version 4.4) on to this and then if I don't like it or want to return back to this exact version I have now by a Nandroid backup, could I?
I have searched around and can't seem to find the answer and want to get rid of Touchwiz (like nearly everyone else)
Baseband Version: i9505XXUEMK8
Build Number: JSS15J. I9505XXUEMK8
Thank you in advance
LimitedStreak said:
Hi there,
I have a Galaxy S4 i9505 with official Samsung 4.3 Stock ROM from a different country which I had flashed using ODIN a while ago. I already have my knox counter tripped to 0x1 because I had also installed custom recovery and rooted.
Would I be able to flash CM11 (Android Version 4.4) on to this and then if I don't like it or want to return back to this exact version I have now by a Nandroid backup, could I?
I have searched around and can't seem to find the answer and want to get rid of Touchwiz (like nearly everyone else)
Baseband Version: i9505XXUEMK8
Build Number: JSS15J. I9505XXUEMK8
Thank you in advance
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Yes you can easily return back to the saved nandroid backup you have in recovery
I first started on cm11 before picking a daily ROM that was suitable for me
Happy flashing
11calcal said:
Yes you can easily return back to the saved nandroid backup you have in recovery
I first started on cm11 before picking a daily ROM that was suitable for me
Happy flashing
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I have read somewhere that if the build number is updated then you cannot downgrade or something?
Was yours a knox enabled rom and have you tried going back to it?
LimitedStreak said:
I have read somewhere that if the build number is updated then you cannot downgrade or something?
Was yours a knox enabled rom and have you tried going back to it?
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Apparently once you update to 4.4.2 you can't downgrade to 4.3 but IMHO why you would want to go back is beyond me ? Mine was on Knox after 4.3 ota but took the plunge & glad I did & wouldn't need to go back to an outdated OS. My baseband has stayed mk9 even after trying a few ROMs & love the smoothness of Google edition ROMs over cm11
I would suggest making the move over to kk & trying a few ROMs out there.
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Apparently once you update to 4.4.2 you can't downgrade to 4.3 but IMHO why you would want to go back is beyond me ? Mine was on Knox after 4.3 ota but took the plunge & glad I did & wouldn't need to go back to an outdated OS. My baseband has stayed mk9 even after trying a few ROMs & love the smoothness of Google edition ROMs over cm11
I would suggest making the move over to kk & trying a few ROMs out there.
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I have been on CM10.1 before and the only reason I went back to Touchwiz was because there was bugs with it and that's the same reason I might want to go back if I flash it now so I just want to be sure
I was thinking that if I update and my baseband/build number stay the same then I might be able to downgrade again if I wanted to later?
Absolutely hate Touchwiz right now but everything works too
LimitedStreak said:
I have been on CM10.1 before and the only reason I went back to Touchwiz was because there was bugs with it and that's the same reason I might want to go back if I flash it now so I just want to be sure
I was thinking that if I update and my baseband/build number stay the same then I might be able to downgrade again if I wanted to later?
Absolutely hate Touchwiz right now but everything works too
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I wouldn't like to say that if baseband stays same that you could go back for sure ? Touchwiz is just too bloated IMO that's why I decided on a custom ROM ?
I found cm11 okay but feel that kk GE is so much fluid :highfive:
I think it isn't possible to go from a knox-enabled rom to one without knox?
So I have knox-enabled 4 right now and guessing when I go on CM11 it'll still be there so when I try to downgrade I should be able to?
As it's not going from 4.3 (knox-enabled) to 4.2 (knox-disabled) but from 4.4 (knox-enabled?) to 4.3 (knox-enabled)
I'm not really sure but can someone give us some help .
11calcal said:
I wouldn't like to say that if baseband stays same that you could go back for sure ? Touchwiz is just too bloated IMO that's why I decided on a custom ROM ?
I found cm11 okay but feel that kk GE is so much fluid :highfive:
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So you was able to go from one CM11 to GE which both are on 4.4?
I think I'll update to stock 4.4 and then from there create another nandroid and move about ROMs? Would that work?
LimitedStreak said:
So you was able to go from one CM11 to GE which both are on 4.4?
I think I'll update to stock 4.4 and then from there create another nandroid and move about ROMs? Would that work?
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Yes initially I was on stock 4.3 then went on cm11 for a week or so then started trying out GE ROMs ?
If I needed to go back to official stock (warranty) I would just find & flash 1 through Odin :fingers-crossed:
11calcal said:
Yes initially I was on stock 4.3 then went on cm11 for a week or so then started trying out GE ROMs ?
If I needed to go back to official stock (warranty) I would just find & flash 1 through Odin :fingers-crossed:
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If you needed to go back would you go back to an official 4.4 or 4.3 then?
Do you think it would be a good idea to just titaniumbackup everything and Nandroid and flash cm11 and so if there are any problems I could just flash stock 4.4 and install all the apps back via titanium backup?
Would there be a problem with the bootloader?
LimitedStreak said:
If you needed to go back would you go back to an official 4.4 or 4.3 then?
Do you think it would be a good idea to just titaniumbackup everything and Nandroid and flash cm11 and so if there are any problems I could just flash stock 4.4 and install all the apps back via titanium backup?
Would there be a problem with the bootloader?
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If I needed to go official I would flash back to 4.3 as that's what I'm meant to be on.
Always make a backup before flashing that way you can reinstall.
Can't see a problem with bootloader even if you had to flash official I would just use chainfire to gain recovery/root again ?
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If I needed to go official I would flash back to 4.3 as that's what I'm meant to be on.
Always make a backup before flashing that way you can reinstall.
Can't see a problem with bootloader even if you had to flash official I would just use chainfire to gain recovery/root again ?
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But this new knox thing on the S4 means you can't downgrade the bootloader or something. So I think going from 4.4 to 4.3 is downgrading the bootloader? And so would risk bricking your device which is why I don't want to attempt it unless someone has done it and had to problem
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But this new knox thing on the S4 means you can't downgrade the bootloader or something. So I think going from 4.4 to 4.3 is downgrading the bootloader? And so would risk bricking your device which is why I don't want to attempt it unless someone has done it and had to problem
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You are already on the new bootloader with Knox triggered so there is no downgrading to old bootloader.
You are safe to stay on 4.3 but if you put 4.4 or cm11 on your phone you may not be able to go back to an earlier version?
Hi, I hope I can clear something here. If you are on stock 4.3, rooted and Knox 0x1, you can flash cm and you can restore your 4.3 backup. If you once triggered your Knox to 0x1, it's not possible to get it back to 0x0.
If you flash a stock Samsung 4.4.2 KitKat with the new KitKat bootloader, you can restore any custom 4.3 ROM. You can not flash a 4.3 stock ROM with Odin once you are on the KitKat bootloader. In this case you have to flash a stock KitKat ROM.
Another thing: if you now are on a 4.3 bootloader and you flash a 4.4 ROM, it could break wifi. But there are fixes possible with editing the build.prop.
So fact is, no matter what ever you do, if your Knox is already 0x1, it's not possible to get back to 0x0.
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Hi, I hope I can clear something here. If you are on stock 4.3, rooted and Knox 0x1, you can flash cm and you can restore your 4.3 backup. If you once triggered your Knox to 0x1, it's not possible to get it back to 0x0.
If you flash a stock Samsung 4.4.2 KitKat with the new KitKat bootloader, you can restore any custom 4.3 ROM. You can not flash a 4.3 stock ROM with Odin once you are on the KitKat bootloader. In this case you have to flash a stock KitKat ROM.
Another thing: if you now are on a 4.3 bootloader and you flash a 4.4 ROM, it could break wifi. But there are fixes possible with editing the build.prop.
So fact is, no matter what ever you do, if your Knox is already 0x1, it's not possible to get back to 0x0.
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Hi there and thanks for your help but could I clear this up
You said 'If you are on stock 4.3, rooted and Knox 0x1, you can flash cm and you can restore your 4.3 backup.'
I am on stock 4.3, did you mean CM10.1 (Android 4.3) or CM11 (Android 4.4)? And if CM11 then that would mean I could go to android 4.4 and then back down to 4.3 stock if I wanted?
And flashing a KitKat ROM on 4.3 ROM would give me that wifi problem?
So do you think I should flash stock 4.4 using Odin and then flash CM11.. and then if wanted I could just go back to stock 4.4? Would there be a change in bootloader between 4.4 roms?
Hope you understood this, thanks again
LimitedStreak said:
Hi there and thanks for your help but could I clear this up
You said 'If you are on stock 4.3, rooted and Knox 0x1, you can flash cm and you can restore your 4.3 backup.'
I am on stock 4.3, did you mean CM10.1 (Android 4.3) or CM11 (Android 4.4)? And if CM11 then that would mean I could go to android 4.4 and then back down to 4.3 stock if I wanted?
And flashing a KitKat ROM on 4.3 ROM would give me that wifi problem?
So do you think I should flash stock 4.4 using Odin and then flash CM11.. and then if wanted I could just go back to stock 4.4? Would there be a change in bootloader between 4.4 roms?
Hope you understood this, thanks again
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If you want 4.4, you can flash the stock Samsung package including the newest bootloader and modem. Wifi and everything else will work then. Once you are on the 4.4 bootloader, you can switch between all 4.4 ROMS, stock or custom. You be able to Odin flash the stock Samsung 4.4 ROM again. But you can not flash a STOCK SAMSUNG 4.3 ROM again. 4.3 CUSTOM Rom is possible.
Remember: if you flash the Samsung stock 4.4 package, you have to root and flash a custom recovery before you can flash cm11 I suggest TWRP 2.6.3.1, works perfect.
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If you want 4.4, you can flash the stock Samsung package including the newest bootloader and modem. Wifi and everything else will work then. Once you are on the 4.4 bootloader, you can switch between all 4.4 ROMS, stock or custom. You be able to Odin flash the stock Samsung 4.4 ROM again. But you can not flash a STOCK SAMSUNG 4.3 ROM again. 4.3 CUSTOM Rom is possible.
Remember: if you flash the Samsung stock 4.4 package, you have to root and flash a custom recovery before you can flash cm11 I suggest TWRP 2.6.3.1, works perfect.
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Understood, Thank you!
Hmm, would I need to delete data and stuff when flashing stock 4.4? If it does, titaniumbackup backup/restore should work fine?
I will flash twrp custom recovery using odin but how about a root? Which root works on 4.4 with knox?
Thanks
LimitedStreak said:
Understood, Thank you!
Hmm, would I need to delete data and stuff when flashing stock 4.4? If it does, titaniumbackup backup/restore should work fine?
I will flash twrp custom recovery using odin but how about a root? Which root works on 4.4 with knox?
Thanks
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Try CFautoroot first. Then recovery. Restore most of your data with titanium should work. But don't restore any system apps.:good:
I have note 10.1 2014 p605 LTE ( Snapdragon 2.3 GHz) running android 4.4.2. Anyone know when they will make 4.4.4 or lollipop for this model?
Ivan992 said:
I have note 10.1 2014 p605 LTE ( Snapdragon 2.3 GHz) running android 4.4.2. Anyone know when they will make 4.4.4 or lollipop for this model?
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Flash this via odin http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/download/30325/P605XXUCNE2_P605OXACNE2_NEE.zip/
Then reroot your tablet with superuser. Flash via odin.
I am using this ROM since there isnt a stable 5.0 You dont need to flash if u want stock. The first link is stock 4.4.4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2646738
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Flash this via odin http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/download/30325/P605XXUCNE2_P605OXACNE2_NEE.zip/
Then reroot your tablet with superuser. Flash via odin.
I am using this ROM since there isnt a stable 5.0 You dont need to flash if u want stock. The first link is stock 4.4.4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2646738
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Thank you! But first link is 4.4.2 and 2nd is custom rom. Any official 4.4.4?
Ivan992 said:
Thank you! But first link is 4.4.2 and 2nd is custom rom. Any official 4.4.4?
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You can follow the latest updates here:
http://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=SM-P605
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-p605/#firmware
No, none of these are official yet, but rumors said we will be getting 5.0 after new year. I hope they are true.