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Potentially speed up our N1's in the near future?

Just read this article here:
http://androinica.com/2010/02/08/wa...ts-3xs-faster-myriad-wants-to-give-it-to-you/
Wonder what that's going to mean for us?

Exactly as described in the article: better performance and better battery life.

Sounds cool, hopefully they're working on integrating this.

Sounds good.
Currently, though, the N1 can sometimes be choppy because the homescreen uses processing power instead of the GPU. I'm hoping Google will get around to fixing that, because as it stands the GPU is utilized very little.

grainysand said:
Sounds good.
Currently, though, the N1 can sometimes be choppy because the homescreen uses processing power instead of the GPU. I'm hoping Google will get around to fixing that, because as it stands the GPU is utilized very little.
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Do you have a source for this information? It makes sense and I've been wondering why my homescreen lags a bit sometimes while my buddies Sprint Hero runs smooth.
Would be awesome if they found a way to fix it like you say

that would be AMAZING! Mostly for G1, MT3G... owners but i also wouldn t mind it on my N1!!!
Add a better keyboard and open up the RAM, to that new engine and we will have the ultimate phone!

I'm assuming that this 'turbo' dalvik uses some kind of just in time compilation to achieve it's speed increases.
As such, this is already available in android 2.*, but disabled currently as it's experimental.

noodles12 said:
Do you have a source for this information? It makes sense and I've been wondering why my homescreen lags a bit sometimes while my buddies Sprint Hero runs smooth.
Would be awesome if they found a way to fix it like you say
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'Fraid I don't--I remember having read it somewhere, likely on this forum. People've noted that some home replacement apps will run smoother than the stock launcher, however, as those apps make full use of the GPU.
I tried out home replacements for a while, didn't like any of them, and have since set my "window animation" under Settings -> Display to "Some animation." Homescreen no longer lags unless I'm using one of those questionably-optimized third-party live wallpapers.

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'Fraid I don't--I remember having read it somewhere, likely on this forum. People've noted that some home replacement apps will run smoother than the stock launcher, however, as those apps make full use of the GPU.
I tried out home replacements for a while, didn't like any of them, and have since set my "window animation" under Settings -> Display to "Some animation." Homescreen no longer lags unless I'm using one of those questionably-optimized third-party live wallpapers.
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reading this does remind me i have noticed something that I did find strange.
Using the stock launcher with only 3 pages of widgets and shortcuts, it shows I have about 230mb ram free in Taskpanel.
But when i use Home++, with the same layout, icons and widgets i get near the 270mb free ram mark.
I understand Task Panel may not be the most accurate or whatever but I've done this a few times and it must be something different.

Sorry for the off topic. Im starting to notice something with posts is all... using taskpanel i have never seen more than 80Mb RAM free. thats after killing all background tasks. How the hell are you showing 230Mb?

He is presumably using the highmem kernel.

Quality of visual design in the Market

Hey guys.
A few people I know have commented that, overall, apps on the Android Market are much less polished visually than those on Apple's App Store.
This is something I tend to agree with and was wondering what the general consensus is?
1. Do you agree that the average Android app lacks attractive visuals?
2. Do you rate features over looks?
3. Are aesthetics important to you when purchasing an app?
As a graphic designer, it is quite important to me, and I am happy to help out where I can if anyone needs any graphic work done. IMO, the doubleTwist app is one of the better apps on the market visually and I expect it to be the most popular media player when they add more features.

Function over form for me always.
As long as the App is designed for use, ie the controls are easy to access and make sense it doesn't matter.
Saying that an app with quality graphical design is much more of a pleasure to use. Widgets have to look good for me to use them. Ugly widgets will never get on my homescreen.

Design is crucial to me. Of course the functionality is the most important but I try to stay away from ugly designed apps.
And I agree, there are way to many badly designed apps.

That is because you cant install apps on the SD card yet. To gfx needs to be small and highly compressed. You can not have the cool looking games from Iphone either as some do take over 100MB of space.

Balos said:
That is because you cant install apps on the SD card yet. To gfx needs to be small and highly compressed. You can not have the cool looking games from Iphone either as some do take over 100MB of space.
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Yes you can! Those apps just need secondary "installs" to download resources to SD card. There are plenty that already do this.
It's not a whole lot different to GPS navigation applications downloading maps to the SD card.
Regards,
Dave

Laban said:
Design is crucial to me. Of course the functionality is the most important but I try to stay away from ugly designed apps.
And I agree, there are way to many badly designed apps.
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Totally agree with you. An ugly designed app makes itself look insecure, untrustworthy.
I've also noticed, that some icons (even from HTC, e.g. compare profile and network widgets) are different in font size, placement.
For me the best case would be when the app uses phones style, not the custom one. So all apps and phone look solid, with the same design (fonts, colors etc.), not like a parrot.

The GREATEST Android App Ever!

I'm sure everyone has their own opinion on this. They did a huge study on the greatest invention ever. You would think it would be the automobile or the electric light bulb. The invention that won, however, was the printing press - interesting.
MY FAVORITE:
Without a doubt, the greatest Android App IMHO is NANDROID. (Lol, I'm not even sure it is an "app" per se, or just a part of Recovery...)
It is the ultimate Mulligan. The perfect do-over. Ctrl-Z for flashaholics. We can try any new rom that comes along without risking a thing of the setup we KNOW we like.
That's mine, what's yours?

angry birds is mine....it makes the work day go by faster...lol

Pulse. Not only does it eliminate the need for a bunch other apps (Android Central, Engadget, other news...), but it is beautiful and intuitive. There really is no other app that has that level of quality IMHO.
PowerAMP is a close 2nd.

akarol said:
Pulse. Not only does it eliminate the need for a bunch other apps (Android Central, Engadget, other news...), but it is beautiful and intuitive. There really is no other app that has that level of quality IMHO.
PowerAMP is a close 2nd.
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Wow...Pulse is awesome. Thanks for cluing me into it.
Mine are probably:
Angry Birds
Tapatalk
RockPlayer (for playing .avi and .mkv videos)
Winamp
LauncherPro Plus

for me its app brain as it allows you to keep your apps list in a text file to remain consistent from flash to flash.

Pandora Radio. I use it everywhere. While I'm playing Xbox, while I'm driving, while I'm pooping, while I'm eating, plus I use it on every platform.

I never heard of Pulse before. The guys behind this did a great job. Best news app I've ever seen.

For RSS feeds you can't beat Newsrob. Not a fan of Pulse - too busy for me.

My rss reader of choice is Feedr, but app I can't live without goes to LauncherPro plus

Got to agree with th OP on "nandroid"... it was the only reason I rooted in the first place. But like the OP said, not to sure it counts as an app.
With that in mind..... LauncherPro(free), Launcher-X Pro, Switch Pro, mClock and BattStat..... hmmm.... there all just widgets. They court as apps right?
If not.... Mixzing, CardAce: Hold'em and Docs ToGo.

My top twp apps are:
Xiia player - steaming radio, best out of the few available, better than Pandora because IMHO the bit rate Pandora runs sucks ass, sounds like 24kbs mono to me. You can easily find commercial free internet radio like chronix.
Swarm - very nice torrent client.

Facebook! Just sayin'!

I thought pulse was awesome until google reader officially launched the app, I think it's much more functional than pulse though it's not at all stylish, but from a reader I just care about the content, and it's delivered nicely with the reader app.
I have a finite set of apps that I'd call best. As far as making my life easier, Titanium Backup (pro) is just wonderful. I've found myself restoring and backing up apps as I like to flash often. And it restores everything about the app, so I don't have to worry about missing stuff on a restore.
Also launcher pro has helped the convenience of using my phone. I trimmed the screens down to three and have two docks and just use folders so when I use my phone I'm not fiddling around with screens but getting exactly what I need.

indigo0086 said:
I have a finite set of apps that I'd call best. As far as making my life easier, Titanium Backup (pro) is just wonderful. I've found myself restoring and backing up apps as I like to flash often. And it restores everything about the app, so I don't have to worry about missing stuff on a restore.
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Titanium Backup(pro) is number one easily in my book. hell I'm using it right now! I have most of the time around a hundred apps and its made flashing new roms way less painless
I'd say there are a lot of better apps but I end up using Klondike solitaire the most.

Remote web desktop is pretty frakin sweet

xlGmanlx said:
Remote web desktop is pretty frakin sweet
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TeamViewer > all remote desktop apps.

Mine would have to be "mikandi"
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If Nandroid counts it's number one, with Titanium Backup a distant second. Without these two apps there'd be a lot less rooted phones and active rom flashing, as others have mentioned.
TB isn't my greatest app ever pick since its primary use (for me at least) is backing up all apps + data before changing roms, which again I would only occasionally do were it not for Nandroid. To be a truly great app, a program needs to extend the functionality of your phone in a way that creates a valuable new function or enhances an existing one already on your phone, making it a more essential tool in your life and possibly replacing others you currently use.
The first app I bought was LauncherPro. I've tried most of the competition, and LP is the best for my needs. It's awesome but greatest app ever? I have a feeling that many of these features will eventually end up incorporated into Android.
"Pic to pdf" type apps are pretty amazing. Yes, you can do each step individually with other apps and share the same end-product, but in less than a minute I can open CamScanner, create and then upload a finished work order to Google Docs. I purchased CamScanner after trying them all last month, it has the features I need for my job and is already saving me a lot of time.
Final answer: the Google Search widget. Is that cheating? I get access to almost anything with one button press and voice input, from sending texts to maps/navigation to a comprehensive search that searches pretty much anything you want including apps, email, calendar, voicemail, texts, the web, etc. Can anything alse compare?

subsonic is nice too

i was gonna say rom manager.

[Q] ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1 vs ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=0

Forces your home launcher into memory:
ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1 or ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=0
...someone may have a very short explanation ?
What means each one ?
Thanks

Hi
If you search taming the OOM killer on Google you will find a lot of information about this.. Linux as specific way to address low memory conditions and android I believe uses it with some more specific feature.. For what I understand the higher the value the more chances the process will be released from memory also depending for how long the app stayed in memory unused.... So having it to one I believe would make it release sooner than zero.. I believe you can go further bellow with negative value. Also have a look for minfreemanager on market and minfreemanager in general on Google.
The way android manages memory somehow puzzles me... It's probably very clever... But find it unnecessarily kills app sometimes...
People say ICS as a much better memory management than HC having also GT 8.9 with ICS rom it seems to be the case.. Less memory used overall less app unnecessarily killed for what I saw comparing to HC...
This is why..... I can't wait having ICS on the 7.7....
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I don't claim to understand the task cleaner completely and I agree it does seem to kill tasks sometimes when there isn't any need to free up memory, but here is some interesting investigation and a way to customize the memory thresholds at which it will decide to kill various types of tasks.

stefan.pilsu said:
Forces your home launcher into memory:
ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1 or ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=0
...someone may have a very short explanation ?
What means each one ?
Thanks
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The sense of my question is:
Which of two "lines" we can use for better, smoother scrolling between homescreens .

=1 is supposed to keep the launcher in memory. But it doesn't help on my pad anyway. After exiting another application, the launcher is empty and has to redraw the icons, widgets etc.
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I would agree it is not to improve scrolling performance but attempt to try avoiding your launcher to be released from memory... A lower value tries to delay the memory manager to kill the launcher.
IMO this setting only does not help much..as I use it set to 0...Tweaking with minfreemanager does help a bit though but at some point getting back to your launcher you will see it refreshing icons/widget... ICS might be better in that respect...
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Best apps and games

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I'm back on the scene and will be researching the best stylus apps. I'll be looking for functionality and development of flowcharts, project design, to sketching vector and pixel based drawing.
Here's some of the regular free apps I always download (some may need root or sourced from maker);
Hackers Keyboard - Great for coders as offers near to desktop keyboard layouts. Like ESC, Ctrl, arrow Keys, etc.
DNS Changer - Allows you to change the dns provider, maybe making internet faster, and avoiding usage monitoring.
SyncMe Wireless - Allows you to sync directories with other computers. Example an eBook directory off your desktop.
AdAway - Removes commercials from Apps by cutting internet url access.
Link2SD - Allows you to manipulate Apps like moving them onto different partitions. Example pushing updated Apps back to their system partition so system wipes retain the latest version.
Droidwall - Iptable based firewall. Lets you choose which Apps have internet access, blocked at a system kernel level.

Good post m8 would also be interesting in paid apps ur also using if u got a min to post tnx :thumbup:
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MyScript Stylus Beta works amazingly well!

While im absolutely impressed with the resolution and tracking of the capacitive stylus on the Tegra note, im dissapointed that no reviewer to date showed the actual level of resolution it was capable of. I would have still purchased, but i cannot write as small as im used to on the screen cleanly. The device wont cleanly track at that size and speed, only displaying "the gist" of my strokes. Does anyone have any suggestions for page by page note taking app that mitigates this? Really looking for an app where i dont have to keep repositioning the writing area manually, as it really disrupts the flow of writing.

I like Markers from the F-Droid Market. MyScript Stylus Beta is cool, but it seems slower than swyping in the Google Keyboard.

crhylove said:
I like Markers from the F-Droid Market. MyScript Stylus Beta is cool, but it seems slower than swyping in the Google Keyboard.
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Markers looks strangely familiar, seems an updated version of the Tegra Draw app that came with my UK Advent tablet, has a zoom and move around page function, hand icon.
Tried Myscript Stylus and yes, found slower than swyping keyboard.
Been playing with Floor Plan Creator, have to pay to save out in various formats but otherwise free, works well with the stylus.
And of course Autodesk SketchBook I have the pro and nice drawing app with the stylus.
Just trying ArtFlow, good support for the stylus.
Still new to the Tegra and will add here as we go along, enjoying this tablet, would like a bigger screen tho.....