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Hi everyone,
I'm starting this thread to show you guys that not all Nexus S AMOLEDS are the same. I purchased a Nexus S on launch day from one store, and my brother bought a nexus S from another best buy store. We were comparing each others phones, and mine turned out to be darker than his, specifically the whites. We compared our screens at full brightness, and we set the same backgrounds, and his was noticeably better looking. So I went and exchanged mine, the new one I got still suffered from having darker whites, but it was not as bad as the first one, so when we compared them again, his was still better. I took a few pictures of the new one i got compared with his (on right). It may not look like much, but if you look at it in person, it's very noticeable when they are next to each other. I think you guys should compare your nexus s with a display model at a store, or with someone else to see what I'm talking about. I think it's easiest to see what i'm talking about if you look at the search widget. Like I said the first one I had was worse, but I'm comparing the newly exchanged one (left) with my brothers (right).
http://i.imgur.com/iAbJW.jpg
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mine is bright enough for me. thats really all i care about.
tekkitan said:
mine is bright enough for me. thats really all i care about.
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I agree with you
It's like my mom says not everything can be 100% perfect
Yeah I know what you're speaking of. I started a thread here about it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877497
I went through this when I bought dual monitors for my computer. It is nearly impossible to find two monitors exactly the same. You will not know the difference unless you keep comparing it to others.
momohammed20 said:
Hi everyone,
http://i.imgur.com/iAbJW.jpg
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in your pix... no to wallpapers are alike
tks989 said:
in your pix... no to wallpapers are alike
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lol thats true. it made me laugh lol
download a solid white wallpaper. set the brightness to the highest. if one of them is cool blue white then this is good screen. if its warm yellowish white, then its a bad screen.
also there is the issue with pinkish disaplay. download a solid gray wallpaper. set the brightness to the lowest, if the gray turns to pink a little. you have a defective screen no matter what others tell you. if it stays gray " like my old Samsung Galaxy S " then you have a perfect screen.
AND there is also the grid pattern matrix you can see on the lowest brightness on the same gray wallpaper. ALL of them are more visible on the Super Amoled screens, just try to get one that is not very noticable.
if you got all those 3 perfectly " with no dead pixels or stuck pixels. then your phone worth alot.
i sold my galaxy S USED more than i bought it NEW because of these effects when i mentioned them to the buyer and he saw with his own eyes the difference. plus it didnt have single scratch on the whole phone so it was like a brand new.
nit picking, there basically the same
rashad1 said:
nit picking, there basically the same
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No one's nitpicking. It's a matter of what you're willing to settle for. I paid my 580.00 for a phone to display the colors correctly. I didn't pay that much for the display to change colors just because I lower the brightness.
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nit picking, there basically the same
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it's hard to show what i'm talking about in the picture, but in person (picture was taken with iphone 4, so it wont show that much), it is very noticeable if the two are side by side.
tks989 said:
in your pix... no to wallpapers are alike
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ya, after i took pics, i realized they were not on the same page on the home screen.
This is a very common issue on the Galaxy S phones too. Different suppliers are used in the manufacturing process resulting in some screens with warmer color temps, and others with cooler ones. The Engadget review of the Nexus S specifically called out a warmer temp by the way.
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Dumb question, but did you verify that the brightness levels in settings are set to the same values? Or at least compared the two phones when at the lowest and highest settings?
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Dumb question, but did you verify that the brightness levels in settings are set to the same values? Or at least compared the two phones when at the lowest and highest settings?
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ya, i actually made sure they were both brightest, and when they are both on the lowest, you can tell one of them displays brighter whites. But the first one I had was worse than the one I have in the pictures on the left, it's hard to notice that you have a screen that does not produce nice whites, unless you see another nexus s that does a better job.
I actually like the ones on the left, the ones on the right crush the blacks, resulting in basically everything washed out, even if it "looks" better to you, it isn't from a calibrator prospective.
The Evo 4G had the same thing going on with its display. HTC used 2 different Manufacturers for the screen, One Novatec, One Was Epson. I believe the Novatec panel had darker colors (warmer?) resulting in more of a purplish color on blacks (what ll_l_x_l_ll calls pink for whatever reason) While the epson didnt have any purplish tone, but most say had a washed out look.
I would say though that on the nexus S, probably 99% of them are going to have a little purplish effect on the lowest brightness setting. If the OPs brothers phone has no purplish color, that would be the first i have seen. Ive seen many many demo units, several video reviews, and even the 2.3 rom ported to other galaxy S phones, and they all have the "purplish" display.
All my whites on my phone are really white, and blacks are really black.
Only be concerned if your screen looks like this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=882862
That would definatley warrant an exchange, because they are NOT supposed to look like that.
My Screen looks better than his I9000 though too, but that could be his camera too washing out the colors a bit
Psosmith82 said:
The Evo 4G had the same thing going on with its display. HTC used 2 different Manufacturers for the screen, One Novatec, One Was Epson. I believe the Novatec panel had darker colors (warmer?) resulting in more of a purplish color on blacks (what ll_l_x_l_ll calls pink for whatever reason) While the epson didnt have any purplish tone, but most say had a washed out look.
I would say though that on the nexus S, probably 99% of them are going to have a little purplish effect on the lowest brightness setting. If the OPs brothers phone has no purplish color, that would be the first i have seen. Ive seen many many demo units, several video reviews, and even the 2.3 rom ported to other galaxy S phones, and they all have the "purplish" display.
All my whites on my phone are really white, and blacks are really black.
Only be concerned if your screen looks like this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=882862
That would definatley warrant an exchange, because they are NOT supposed to look like that.
My Screen looks better than his I9000 though too, but that could be his camera too washing out the colors a bit
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Yeah my camera isn't great, it was poor light but it was enough to show the difference.
My i9000 screen is pretty incredible, I'd be impressed if I saw one better.
Oddly though, you say that if it turns blue when the brightness is turned right up, it's a good screen - my Nexus S does that. But it's yellow when the brightness is low.
Personally I think I'm going to take your advice in another thread. I'm going to return this phone for a refund, enjoy using my i9000 for a while as it's now apparent that the screen is excellent (I never really had GPS issues either, so I'm pretty lucky), and go around stores when they have stock to find a screen that compares favourably against my i9000. I'm in a nice position that I can do a side-by-side comparison each time.
momohammed20 said:
it's hard to show what i'm talking about in the picture, but in person (picture was taken with iphone 4, so it wont show that much), it is very noticeable if the two are side by side.
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bazinga.
hit under the belt.
Why not load up Google site in the browser to do your comparison? That way its identical.
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So, I guess not many of you have ever messed around with the LCD monitor in front of you (if you have one).
Mine I can set to be a cool white or a warm white.
Here is the real problem... Your brother is smarter than you. You see, there is a difference maybe in the screens. But instead of him *****ing about it, he likely just said his was better. Thus leaving you with the **** screen.
The tables could have been turned if you would have said "HAHA your screen is broken, and mine is better" the second you found the screens were different. Then it would be him here all upset about the screen.
The things people ***** about on this form are just crazy. And no, I don't care about how much you spent on your phone. When you buy any product you should only have a expectation that it is usable, not perfect. And thats mostly because perfect is mostly opinion when it comes to things like this.
Also, this is a phone, not a pro display marked for having the most accurate color production.
What kills me most is the people who take phones back over and over for problems that only exist in their heads. All you are doing is raising the cost of phones and keeping them high for everybody else.
Is anybody else noticing how dull the colours on the Milestone 2 is? ive looked around and havnt been able to find anybody else talking about it.
I took a few shots of it beside a ZTE Blade and a Zune HD (Zune on medium brightness, both phones on 30% brightness) and strangely enough the Blade's TFT screen looks identical to the Zunes OLED... and the Milestone looks awful!
im confused because the Blade cost 100 and the Milestone cost me 450!???
photos and a video here:
http://picasaweb.google.com/savagecabage/Milestone2TFTErrible#
is there some settings that im missing? im hoping there is. i feel like ive been screwed my motorola lol but i suppose its my own fault, i didnt really do that much research on the screen, i just presumed that a phone that cost 4 times as much as my last phone would have a decent screen
i got this info from pdadb.net, does this make sense to anybody?
ZTE Blade color transflective TFT , 262144 scales
Milestone 2 color transflective TFT , 16777216 scales
also there only seems to be about a 5-10 degree viewing angle on it, once the phone is tilted out side that the colour drops again, oh well
Do you have any screen protector or something on the MS? Are you sure screen brightnes is @30%? I have Droid2 Global and a Milestone (1) which both essentially have the same screen as on MS2 and it is not looking half that dull! True, colors aren't AMOLED like, but I would call it above average for TFT screen
Edit: just looked at the rest of the pics you provided and honestly the ZTE screen looks worse than the MS2 when it comes to color representation - everything feels redish/pinkinsh on it. The AMOLED is not comparable under this conditions. Take some photos at daylight to see "the other side of the coin"
leobg said:
Do you have any screen protector or something on the MS? Are you sure screen brightnes is @30%? I have Droid2 Global and a Milestone (1) which both essentially have the same screen as on MS2 and it is not looking half that dull! True, colors aren't AMOLED like, but I would call it above average for TFT screen
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no screen protector on and im using widgetsoid power widget and have both of them set to 30% using that. yea maybe its that the ZTE Blade colours are over saturated and im just used to look at them that way, but there is definitely some colours wrong and dull in places, like the red in the youtube icon is more of a washed out red than thier logo usually is
ah not to worry i suppose, i probably wont even notice it in a few weeks, ill be selling of the blade then so i wont have anything to compare it to anymore
awesome phone apart from that though
if i find some better examples ill post them,
thanks
I also noticed this the night I took my Milestone 2 home... I was a little concerned at first, but the soft colors eventually grew on me and I dont mind it so much now
Shellite said:
I also noticed this the night I took my Milestone 2 home... I was a little concerned at first, but the soft colors eventually grew on me and I dont mind it so much now
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Its not just me so! thats nice to know im not going mad. im sure ill get used to it soon as well, its not the biggest deal breaker anyway, im just into a bit of photography in my spare time so i like being able to look at photos on my phone in the correct colour
this guy says the screen is vibrant? i must go ask him how he gets it so vibrant, maybe theres a setting somewhere to turn the colour back on
http://www.pocket-lint.com/review/5213/motorola-milestone-2-android-review
"It is vibrant and displays colours well"
According to DisplayMate (which is an authority on displays) the Milestone Droid has the most accurate colors of ANY mobile screen. SAMOLED has awfully inaccrate and fake colors due to the poor pentile matrix arrangement. I dont know if the OLED screen on the Zune is full RGB or also pentile, but its colors are also "gaudy" and no realistic. Compared to my LG's IPS panel, the Milestone is pretty close. I suggest that your eyes are just accustomed to fake and bleeding colors, or your LCD might be a lemon.
The Milestone's display is IPS with full color gamut and true 24 bit color, not a cheap TN panel like almost every other phone. However, Android 2.1 and 2.2 have galleries that are only 16 bit, so pictures look compressed, not the screen's fault. Blame Google.
Www.displaymate.com.
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This picture indicates just how bad the ZTE screen is. That background on the right isn't even remotely close to being white like it is supposed to be.
It appears to me that your Droid brightness settings are too low (or is on auto dimming) because the Droid's screen should be much brighter--something like 550 nits for the Droid to 300-350 nits.
Also, your eyes are clearly accustomed to "gaudy" and inaccurate colors from OLED, whereas the Droid's display is very accurate.
Have a look at this DisplayMate article that breaks down why the Droid is accurate, Galaxy S' SAMOLED (similar to the Zune's OLED) inaccurate: http://lh3.ggpht.com/_BZtTwn-keT4/TSb4DpoadvI/AAAAAAAAAc0/0pqLgfd_Uik/s640/IMG_2833.JPG
I recommend manually setting the brightness on your Droid. Personally, I prefer the screen very bright. Let your eyes adjust to the Droid, and if you still want overly saturated/fake/inaccurate OLED colors, then please sell your Droid 2 to me
ive had my milestone 2 a month and when i look at it i still think how awesome the screen is, really sharp and clear, colours are vibrant, and ive had to turn the brightness down to almost the lowest it will go because its so bright! lol.
but as with most things peoples perception varies, what looks or sounds great to one person might look or sound horrible to another..
applebook said:
This picture indicates just how bad the ZTE screen is. That background on the right isn't even remotely close to being white like it is supposed to be.
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dont mind thoses pictures actually, using that camera wasnt the best idea, it white when looking at it, no red/pink in it
i think your talking about a different phone anyway, i had a quick look around display mate and couldnt find anything about the droid 2. they have stuff on the droid 1 but nothing on the droid 2. prolly a similar screen but might not be the same
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Also, your eyes are clearly accustomed to "gaudy" and inaccurate colors from OLED, whereas the Droid's display is very accurate.
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yea at first i was thinking that my eyes were just accustomed to "gaudy" colours as you said but if thats true then it means that every screen ive looked at in the last few years has been incorrect.
i just put my xperia x1 and touch pro on ebay and realised that they look "normal", i put some photos on them to look at and both of those seem to be roughly the same as the zte blade, not as saturated as the ZTE blade colours ill give you that, but similar enough, and i have two monitors on my computer here and the photos have exactly the same "normal" colours, but then looking at the same photos on the Milestone 2 they look fairly washed out, even with the brightness at 100% there is a big difference.
i change the brightness settings all the time though but in the photo they were both at the same brightness so it shouldnt matter what % it was just to comapre them
anyway im definitely not imagining it, ive been doing photography and graphic design for a good few years now so my eyes are able to tell small differences between colour at this stage (i wouldnt be much of a photographer/designer if i couldnt) and its more than a small difference, enough that id bother posting a thread here to see if anybody else is noticing it!
well, ive come to the conclusion the screen on my milestone 2 it a lemon... or maybe motorola is the lemon. one of those two, or both lol
i wont be selling it anytime soon though unfortunately sorry im enjoying this phone way to much, the issue doesnt really bother me enough to do something crazy like that..
i just thought it was strange to see it on a 450 phone thats all
mine sometimes as problems, but not that bad :/
dude i really dont think your phone or the screen is the problem, i think its your eyes, just look at the picture of that Rovio screen! the left one is white, the right one is PINK! obviously the m2 has a much more accurate screen.
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ive had my milestone 2 a month and when i look at it i still think how awesome the screen is, really sharp and clear, colours are vibrant, and ive had to turn the brightness down to almost the lowest it will go because its so bright! lol.
but as with most things peoples perception varies, what looks or sounds great to one person might look or sound horrible to another..
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i totally agree about the sharpness and the clearness and the vibrantness of the screen, great detail in it. and i just realised all the colours are really vibrant apart from light blue and red, everthing else seem to be normal. the light blue looks the palest, and then the reds arent as bad but definitely still some difference compared to my computer monitors and other phone screens ive been comparing to.
ah not to worry anyway, i was just curious whether it was a problem everybody was having or if it was just my screen, i wont lose any sleep over it
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dude i really dont think your phone or the screen is the problem, i think its your eyes, just look at the picture of that Rovio screen! the left one is white, the right one is PINK! obviously the m2 has a much more accurate screen.
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yea i didnt really notice that when i was uploading the photo, i just explained that in a post a few seconds ago. it must be just the camera im using, both of them are the same whiteness when looking at them, i was just trying to show the difference in the red colour. the zte blade was at an angle too so i dont know where the pink came from, i just looked at angry birds again on that phone,and at an angle and its still white, stupid camera lol
Savage, I think you might have a bad screen. Can you compare it to another Global or exchange it? The Droid 1, 2, R2D2, and Global all have the same IPS panel as reviewed by DisplayMate, which thinks it is the most color accurate on phones. The Droid does use dynamic contrast, so its colors are sometimes deeper than at other times. I notice this especially when changing wallpaper. Some look absolutely stunning (almost as good as my IPS hdtv), but others are washed out. This is part of the dynamic contrast kicking in and Android's limited 16 bit gallery. I despise dynamic contrast and always turn in off on all my monitors. Unfortunately, I dont know how to disable it on the Droid
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Yeah, I have the d2g, which I believe has the same screen as the m2, and I absolutely love the screen. The colors are very accurate and sharp, I used to have the captivate and I never liked how innacurate the colors were, whites never looked white, they looked grayish, and every other color had a bluish tint to them
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anothadave said:
ive had my milestone 2 a month and when i look at it i still think how awesome the screen is, really sharp and clear, colours are vibrant, and ive had to turn the brightness down to almost the lowest it will go because its so bright! lol.
but as with most things peoples perception varies, what looks or sounds great to one person might look or sound horrible to another..
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Same here, my brightness is always almost all the way down except in sunlight where I turn on auto brightness.
Great Display.
I have a lot of phones with different displays including an Xperia with the Bravia engine which I returned for my MS2 and I would have to say that this is one of the nicest displays out there.
I LOVE this phone! everything about it is awesome. I'm very happy to finally have a nexus device. (came from s5) This phone is really fast, android 5.0 is awesome, build quality is great. I only wish the camera was a little better. Indoor shots are hit or miss, but that probably will be fixed in time with software... not a deal breaker at all.
I love everything about it except the size and weight. Ugh. It might be going back
I love everything about it except the not having it yet part..
G3
Also going to be coming from S5. Waiting on delivery. Were you able to sell your S5 for a good price? I'm hoping to sell mine to get back half the cost of the N6.
I love everything about it except the AMOLED screen, wish it was IPS.
IPS makes more sense as Lollipop is more "white" and moving away from the Holo / black backgrounds.
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Also going to be coming from S5. Waiting on delivery. Were you able to sell your S5 for a good price? I'm hoping to sell mine to get back half the cost of the N6.
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I traded it in on jump
zephiK said:
I love everything about it except the AMOLED screen, wish it was IPS.
IPS makes more sense as Lollipop is more "white" and moving away from the Holo / black backgrounds.
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I'm with you. I've had amoled displays since the droid incredible. Several Samsung's later I finally tasted good LCD with the N5. We also have several iDevices in the family. The purist in me would rather have had an LG based IPS LCD in the N6. However, the amoled suffices and I really like the warm calibration on it
zephiK said:
I love everything about it except the AMOLED screen, wish it was IPS.
IPS makes more sense as Lollipop is more "white" and moving away from the Holo / black backgrounds.
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They could not have done the ambient display notifications without it being amoled that's probably the major reason
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I love everything about it except the AMOLED screen, wish it was IPS.
IPS makes more sense as Lollipop is more "white" and moving away from the Holo / black backgrounds.
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But awesome for those of us who will use the theme manager once CM gets it going. I love dark themes
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They could not have done the ambient display notifications without it being amoled that's probably the major reason
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I personally prefer LED notifications, so glad that theres a LED on N6 hopefully it'll work later on.
So how is the display? How is the gamma, saturation and brightness?
Coming from G3 and I love this too. Also a previous N5 user. Display is superior to G3 so is build quality. Software is far superior as well. Top notch device.
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So how is the display? How is the gamma, saturation and brightness?
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The display is pretty good, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a little disappointed with it. I'm coming from a G3, and in all truthfulness I feel the G3 has the better screen. If you hold them side by side the G3 looks sharper, the colors are more true, and the whites are whiter. The N6 whites do look pretty dingy next to it. I'm pretty sure I'll get used to it tho, and the build quality us way better. The one thing I absolutely loved about the G3, however, were the buttons on the back. Really wish this phone had those as well.
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So how is the display? How is the gamma, saturation and brightness?
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It's totally adequate and better than average, but not amazing. Compared to my Note 3 it's not as bright and the whites aren't as white. The Note 4 screen is even better than the Note 3, so take that for what you will.
I'm also not a huge fan of the color temperature. It's a little warm for my taste. I'm sure I'll eventually be able to change this once kernels start rolling out so I'm not too concerned.
The phone is great though overall. I just wish it had a 6" version of the Note 4 screen
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It's totally adequate and better than average, but not amazing. Compared to my Note 3 it's not as bright and the whites aren't as white. The Note 4 screen is even better than the Note 3, so take that for what you will.
I'm also not a huge fan of the color temperature. It's a little warm for my taste. I'm sure I'll eventually be able to change this once kernels start rolling out so I'm not too concerned.
The phone is great though overall. I just wish it had a 6" version of the Note 4 screen
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I would agree - it is definitely warmer than the S5 and iPhone 6+. That being said warm isn't necessarily a bad thing as it may be more accurate for color representation. I will have to test the nits later.
hello, 2 days ago i bought a refurbished gs5, right out of the box i felt like there's something wrong with it..
when im looking at the screen (especially on a white background) i can see its yellow-greenish. when i tilt the phone forward and backwards (taking the bottom part of the phone closer to me/further away from me)
the colors are perfect, like my brother's lg g3. what is the deal? is the screen defective? is it normal for this type of screen? the s5's screen is brighter than the lg g3, just for the record.
when i watch youtube videos, everything is greenish, when i tilt it a little bit, it looks almost as good as my dell ultrasharp monitor.
thanks in advance..
No, it is not normal. I might as well return it and get another one. I bought a SH unit and it came with minor burn-in, but that's not as bad as the yellow-greenish tint you're mentioning. Does it happen in download mode too? Or in recovery, if it's rooted with custom recovery. If yes, time to swap it for another refurbished. If not, we'll see.
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No, it is not normal. I might as well return it and get another one. I bought a SH unit and it came with minor burn-in, but that's not as bad as the yellow-greenish tint you're mentioning. Does it happen in download mode too? Or in recovery, if it's rooted with custom recovery. If yes, time to swap it for another refurbished. If not, we'll see.
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thank you for your reply!
the rom is stock. after using the phone a bit, i feel this tint is just normal. its not VERY yellow, but when im watching vids faces look a bit greenish. its not critical, but not very accurate. still, when the screen is dimmed, it has a lot more contrast and looks much better than the washed out lg g3's screen (when its dimmed).
look, it might be just the way the screen looks. compared to the lg g3, is has a lot more contrast, but when im looking at images, the lg looks identical to my dell monitor (im a photographer so its very important to me), are you sure the galaxy is supposed to be accurate? are the white supposed to look as the lg? on the g3 the whites are a bit red, on the galaxy they're a bit yellow-greenish, but when i look at photos i took, the galaxy looks too warm. when i tilt it a bit, the whites turn a bit blueish, but its still better and more accurate than the yellow it normally is. are you completely sure it isnt the general look of this particular screen?
just for the record, its still yellowish in download mode
sorry for the long comment, im just trying to figure out what to do.,
AMOLED is over-saturated because Samsung is Samsung. Check a custom kernel which will be able to let you tweak the colours. I recommend Boeffla Kernel, because it lets you modify: R G B value, saturation, Hue, Display value and Contrast. Play around with all of those settings if you want to fix it using software.
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AMOLED is over-saturated because Samsung is Samsung. Check a custom kernel which will be able to let you tweak the colours. I recommend Boeffla Kernel, because it lets you modify: R G B value, saturation, Hue, Display value and Contrast. Play around with all of those settings if you want to fix it using software.
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thank you my friend. just for clarification, when you view a white background at "cinema" mode (which is the most color accurate) are the whites yellowish? when viewing in "Standard" mode, the whites are pretty good, but colors are SO SATURATED. and again, thank you my friend!
To my eye, the colours look washed-out, but that is because I am used to the oversaturation of the AMOLED. And yes, the white is yellow-ish.
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To my eye, the colours look washed-out, but that is because I am used to the oversaturation of the AMOLED. And yes, the white is yellow-ish.
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just tell me if this is normal. the phone above is lg g3, gs5 below..
http://i.imgur.com/WdTdYWp.jpg
i cant seem to get the image to show here, i hope you dont mind. if you do, ill try in a different site.
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just tell me if this is normal. the phone above is lg g3, gs5 below..
http://i.imgur.com/WdTdYWp.jpg
i cant seem to get the image to show here, i hope you dont mind. if you do, ill try in a different site.
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How can I put it, uh, the S5 seems to be fine. The G3 is more vibrant, to be honest, but there is nothing wrong with the S5 in my opinion. Again, this is through my eyes, which are very different (and slanted), because 1/2 Jap, the colours on the AMOLED are better than on the LCD. Do you have both phones at the same brightness, and the colours are set nearly the same? Because that can sometimes make the difference. Send me that image, i'll load it on my Galaxy S5 and take a picture to show you how my screen fares.
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How can I put it, uh, the S5 seems to be fine. The G3 is more vibrant, to be honest, but there is nothing wrong with the S5 in my opinion. Again, this is through my eyes, which are very different (and slanted), because 1/2 Jap, the colours on the AMOLED are better than on the LCD. Do you have both phones at the same brightness, and the colours are set nearly the same? Because that can sometimes make the difference. Send me that image, i'll load it on my Galaxy S5 and take a picture to show you how my screen fares.
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the gs5 colors arent better, they're too warm :\.. in the photo the colors arent accurate, because the screens are too bright, but the lg g3 is identical to my dell monitor, the galaxy s5 is very warm and causes images to look almost orange. i shot the image of the gs5 and the lg g3 with my dslr, so it will look different than if you shot your gs5 with a phone camera. anyway, look at the image, tell me what you see at "standard" mode, tell me if the colors of the image look warm, and if looking at a bit of an angle changes the warmth of the colors to be colder (and much more accurate). thank you mate for the help.
for the record, the lg g3 look less greenish in real life, and the gs5 looks a tiny bit less warm. the photo (of the 2 phones) isnt accurate, but its close.
http://i.imgur.com/rKso7q3.jpg
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the gs5 colors arent better, they're too warm :\.. in the photo the colors arent accurate, because the screens are too bright, but the lg g3 is identical to my dell monitor, the galaxy s5 is very warm and causes images to look almost orange. i shot the image of the gs5 and the lg g3 with my dslr, so it will look different than if you shot your gs5 with a phone camera. anyway, look at the image, tell me what you see at "standard" mode, tell me if the colors of the image look warm, and if looking at a bit of an angle changes the warmth of the colors to be colder (and much more accurate). thank you mate for the help.
for the record, the lg g3 look less greenish in real life, and the gs5 looks a tiny bit less warm. the photo (of the 2 phones) isnt accurate, but its close.
http://i.imgur.com/rKso7q3.jpg
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I see what you did there. I loaded the image on my S5 and, to sum it up, at least on my phone, with my eyes, comparing it with my 17" Samsung Syncmaster monitor, the colours on my screen look the same as in the G3 in your picture. I have my screen on Adapt Display. And in cinema mode, the colours are ~1:1 when putting my S5 next to your G3 in the picture, so yeah, your S5's screen is miscalibrated i suppose.
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I see what you did there. I loaded the image on my S5 and, to sum it up, at least on my phone, with my eyes, comparing it with my 17" Samsung Syncmaster monitor, the colours on my screen look the same as in the G3 in your picture. I have my screen on Adapt Display. And in cinema mode, the colours are ~1:1 when putting my S5 next to your G3 in the picture, so yeah, your S5's screen is miscalibrated i suppose.
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thank you so much my friend. ill go to the store and get a replacement. cheers!
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thank you so much my friend. ill go to the store and get a replacement. cheers!
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If the replacement also has these problems, just quote me back. Or just quote me back and keep me updated. When I will go to one of friends' place, where they have really professional monitors, i might as well compare the colours.
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If the replacement also has these problems, just quote me back. Or just quote me back and keep me updated. When I will go to one of friends' place, where they have really professional monitors, i might as well compare the colours.
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ok i will, and just for the record, when you tilt your phone a bit, do the colors get colder ? or is it the same as when you look straight at it?
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ok i will, and just for the record, when you tilt your phone a bit, do the colors get colder ? or is it the same as when you look straight at it?
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same as looking head-on. My particular AMOLED screen has some nice viewing angles, no colour distortion below 80 degrees of tilt. Then it starts to turn green.
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same as looking head-on. My particular AMOLED screen has some nice viewing angles, no colour distortion below 80 degrees of tilt. Then it starts to turn green.
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thank you. now i know for sure my screen is bad
西村大一 said:
same as looking head-on. My particular AMOLED screen has some nice viewing angles, no colour distortion below 80 degrees of tilt. Then it starts to turn green.
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look at this mate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVrm73sAnUs
im experiencing the same thing. when tilting like that the screen gets colder, just like in the video. are you completely sure its not normal? i feel like its just the way the screen is. but if you're telling me it doesnt look like in the video, im returning it.
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look at this mate
im experiencing the same thing. when tilting like that the screen gets colder, just like in the video. are you completely sure its not normal? i feel like its just the way the screen is. but if you're telling me it doesnt look like in the video, im returning it.
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Now with an actual example, i can confirm to you that on the white google background the screen gets colder when you tilt it like in the video. And it also has some green tinting on the bottom. Again, our eyes are different, and this is my retina, my phone and my brain.
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Now with an actual example, i can confirm to you that on the white google background the screen gets colder when you tilt it like in the video. And it also has some green tinting on the bottom. Again, our eyes are different, and this is my retina, my phone and my brain.
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true.. one last thing, i have stock 6.0.1, when i change the display mode to "cinema" from "standard", the colors are accurate, but the whites are yellowish, when i change it to "standard", the whites are white, but the colors are over saturated and unrealistic. do you experience the same thing?
when i change to "dynamic", colors and whites on the internet, photos, video and such, look amazing and almost identical to my dell, but in games it looks just like standard mode, over saturated and too bright. im frustrated!
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true.. one last thing, i have stock 6.0.1, when i change the display mode to "cinema" from "standard", the colors are accurate, but the whites are yellowish, when i change it to "standard", the whites are white, but the colors are over saturated and unrealistic. do you experience the same thing?
when i change to "dynamic", colors and whites on the internet, photos, video and such, look amazing and almost identical to my dell, but in games it looks just like standard mode, over saturated and too bright. im frustrated!
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In dynamic, it changes according to what android thinks its on screen, or rather said, what colour profiles Samsung defined for games, internet, pictures, movies and so on. Unfortunately, with the properties of OLED, cinema mode tends to have rubbish whites. That's because the panel is OLED and your DELL is LCD, no matter if its TN, VA or IPS. The difference in technology is the base of your "issue". I keep my S5 on Adapt Display and forget about colour accuracy because AMOLEDs are natively over-saturated.
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In dynamic, it changes according to what android thinks its on screen, or rather said, what colour profiles Samsung defined for games, internet, pictures, movies and so on. Unfortunately, with the properties of OLED, cinema mode tends to have rubbish whites. That's because the panel is OLED and your DELL is LCD, no matter if its TN, VA or IPS. The difference in technology is the base of your "issue". I keep my S5 on Adapt Display and forget about colour accuracy because AMOLEDs are natively over-saturated.
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yeah then i think my gs5 is perfectly "normal" lol. ill just keep it at adaptive, its the most accurate for photos. by the way, my friend's gs6 looks a lot better. in cinema mode the whites are actually white, and the colors are better than the s5. i guess samsung improved it over the s5. i only paid 220$ for the phone (its considered cheap in my country, prices are horrible here) and i have a one year warranty. ill just keep it, its better than the lg g3 in sunlight, and when i dim the galaxy to 40%, its brighter and nicer to look at than the lg g3 at 60%. weird. well, thank you for the help, i guess im done here haha
Google releases November security patch that includes new display color modes (Boosted, Natural, Saturated) for the Pixel 2 XL to help with the screen color saturation issues/problems. Update includes fixes for screen burn-in and the ear piece clicking noises. Love that Google added this options, in that way people that want accurate colors can use the "Natural" mode, those custom to Samsung's "saturated" (candy) colors, can now pick "Saturated" mode. All about having choices.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omu5r2v941A
Update:
In case someone hasn't got the update YET.... I just posted a step by step guide on how to sideload the OTA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTfgOeNfQqE
Just got the update, loving it !
Colors are much much better . To my eyes at least.
Do you guys experiencing any differences regarding the blue shift after the update?
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Do you guys experiencing any differences regarding the blue shift after the update?
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That's caused by the polarized layer afaik, not sure how saturation would change that
I couldn't really notice a difference... Will see when I get the phone and update is applied.
But I was happy with the colours when I looked at it in the shops..
Wasn't so impressed with the blue screen off axis. 1 was spot on, 2 were shockingly bad.
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I don't like the saturated mode, colors are too bright and white is more red now. Sticking with the original boosted mode, I like the more natural colors.
Oh, and no help to the blue shift since that is hardware based.
Man I can't wait for kcal.
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Looks terrible to me. Yellow whites and colors are extremely off to me. Boosted is my go to.
Yup after using the phone in saturated mode for two days I'm back with the boosted mode. Saturated mode is REALLY saturated. I find it even more saturated than the Note 8.
Too hard to tell in a video, but in person saturated makes everything pop like it's a Samsung panel. Pretty nice, I love it when I'm not in the mood for the most accurate colors.
I definitely appreciate the update Google.
I've found that the saturated mode is great when navigating android, but when looking at real life pictures, boosted is best. I think we need a slider to fine tune it to our own likings. I think we need a little more saturation than boosted, but less than saturated.
Has anyone else noticed that when you look at a picture and angle it for the blue tint it actually looks better? I took a picture of my daughter and the saturation makes her face look red, but when i tilt it, the extra blue overlayed on top of it looks almost perfect!
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I've found that the saturated mode is great when navigating android, but when looking at real life pictures, boosted is best. I think we need a slider to fine tune it to our own likings. I think we need a little more saturation than boosted, but less than saturated.
Has anyone else noticed that when you look at a picture and angle it for the blue tint it actually looks better? I took a picture of my daughter and the saturation makes her face look red, but when i tilt it, the extra blue overlayed on top of it looks almost perfect!
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I think it has helped the blue tint look better on mine too. Mine wasn't terrible to begin with but on boosted mode it looks even better. I would love to see a slider too like on the Note 8 I had. That would please many people.
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I think it has helped the blue tint look better on mine too. Mine wasn't terrible to begin with but on boosted mode it looks even better. I would love to see a slider too like on the Note 8 I had. That would please many people.
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I agree! With saturated mode i think they are also changing the color temperature because there's sortof on dark orangish or reddish tint over everything now where before it was more of a bluish tint. We need the slider!
PMad said:
I've found that the saturated mode is great when navigating android, but when looking at real life pictures, boosted is best. I think we need a slider to fine tune it to our own likings. I think we need a little more saturation than boosted, but less than saturated.
Has anyone else noticed that when you look at a picture and angle it for the blue tint it actually looks better? I took a picture of my daughter and the saturation makes her face look red, but when i tilt it, the extra blue overlayed on top of it looks almost perfect!
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I noticed this too, saturated mode is good but it is a bit too red for me and the colors do make pictures look unnatural but I managed to mitigate some of that with KCAL using root and snoke kernel. I turned down the red and green a bit so now it has a blue hue closer to the natural setting. I also turned down the saturation a bit.
Directly from Google; Further enhancements will be included in our planned December software update and on an ongoing basis thereafter. Our goal is for your Pixel phone to get more useful and delightful over time.
So maybe we will get a slider after all? We'll find out soon enough.
I still like boosted the best.
In case someone hasn't got the update YET.... I just posted a step by step guide on how to sideload the OTA. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTfgOeNfQqE
I'm loving saturated mode. Besides the whites being more reddish instead of blue it's pretty close to what my OG Pixel XL was.
If you guys want to know what really colors should look like either buy or find a monitor with 100% coverage on sRGB range and which are properly factory calibrated.
http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/monitor-colour-spaces-adobergb-srgb-2949078
I am 100% the pixel or for that matter any phone out there lacks realistic representation of colors, and therefore images.
Whites should be at 6500k.
Also be wary of your photos you take, what you see could be severely oversaturated but in reality its probably not so good or vivid.
To this date, there is no phone with realistic colors.
Cost and people being addicted to neon colors could be reasons.
So is boosted the exact same as "vivid colors" or is it a little bit better?