Bye bye Z1, Welcome Z2 - Xperia Z1 General

It had a display defect since I had it under water recently. Maybe the Seal around the Display was was defective, after 1,5 years, because there was water between the glas and the Display...
I sent it to Sony Repair Center here in Germany and hoped they would repair it without complaining, but was very surprised: After just 5 Days including shipping and a Weekend, I got a message that my Device would be an its way back to me now. One day later, it was here.
And what shall I say: I got a new Z2!
I want to thank Sony for their great support. Now I'm confident more than ever before, that it was a great decision to buy a Sony smartphone. Next will be an Xperia Tablet.
Finally I have to say goodbye to Z1 Forums and thanks for the great support - hello Z2 Forums

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Congrats!!!
Was your phone under warranty? and did you root it? Just askin'

Lucky you! Thanks Sony!

You will miss your Z1

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Congrats!!!
Was your phone under warranty? and did you root it? Just askin'
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As I wrote above, the Z1 it was 1,5 years old, so yes, it was within the two years warranty.
It was rooted before, but not now, as I just upgraded to Lollipop. The bootloader was never unlocked.
Besides of this, I don't think, they checked any software. They probably just saw the display- and maybe some more defects and decided that it was cheaper to give me a new one than repairing and replacement parts would be...

Congrats
Sony did a good service .
It seems that they listen well to their customers.
The Z was problematic, the Z1 good, the Z2 & Z3 some problems with screen & water.
Lets watch the Z4 & Z5.
Go Sony, Go:thumbup:
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Love it!

I'm going on my second day of owning this black beauty from T-Mobile USA. Coming from a sg2, this phone is a major upgrade for me and it only cost me $9 out the door. They took my old phone as a trade in and applied that to the up front cost. Since I'm still in contract they did some tweaking to my data package where I only ay $5 bucks for it and the added monthly cost to pay for the phone is esentially covered by the this little change to keep my bill the same!
Been eyeing this phone for awhile as I was tired with the same Samsung and HTC phones. Walking around an electronics story yesterday I saw the Xperia Z tablet. Made me want to buy it since it resembled the phone perfectly and sees like the two would be a great pair. Maybe later in the year since my current tab has no reason to be replaced.
Well I got plenty of threads to read through and information to absorb. I'm sure any questions I come accross have already been asked.
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I'm going on my second day of owning this black beauty from T-Mobile USA. Coming from a sg2, this phone is a major upgrade for me and it only cost me $9 out the door. They took my old phone as a trade in and applied that to the up front cost. Since I'm still in contract they did some tweaking to my data package where I only ay $5 bucks for it and the added monthly cost to pay for the phone is esentially covered by the this little change to keep my bill the same!
Been eyeing this phone for awhile as I was tired with the same Samsung and HTC phones. Walking around an electronics story yesterday I saw the Xperia Z tablet. Made me want to buy it since it resembled the phone perfectly and sees like the two would be a great pair. Maybe later in the year since my current tab has no reason to be replaced.
Well I got plenty of threads to read through and information to absorb. I'm sure any questions I come accross have already been asked.
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Welcome to the most stylish and beautifull phone in the world. Your life will change and people will start coming to you asking what is that beauty you have in your hands.
Congratulations on your improved taste.
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Welcome to the most stylish and beautifull phone in the world. Your life will change and people will start coming to you asking what is that beauty you have in your hands.
Congratulations on your improved taste.
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Haha true! What is more you gonna experience wild, unplanned SEX with by that moment unknown beauty womens. Im not lying, check this out its called effect SEXPERIA
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And when you listen to music in walkman it makes you wanna get up and dance as hard as you can.. or if you put a romantic song on..
Come on, lets make a this into a silly thread of out experiencec of Xperia Z
Congratulations on ur buying the xperia z!! Now masturbation gets easier more than ever with the help of sexperia Z hahahaha
haha! Thanks y'all. I'm glad i didnt go with another Samsung or HTC. They make great phones but this Sony is fresh and different.
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(...) this Sony is fresh (...) .
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That might be because you dank it in the water, cause it's water proof!
Or
Because it's back is made of glass and glass is cool and fresh !
:good: :victory:
i'm thinking of swapping my htc one for it... is the screen ok on it? (i'm use to the samoled and the screen on my htc one is amazing)
My only other concern is the processor isn't as good as the htc one/s4
I'm undecided. Had my xz since UK launch and I'm disappointed with the rear panel raising up (need to discuss with my network ref a repair, but I know it will keep happening) and the camera can be a mixed bag. My other half has an HTC one, like it a lot.
Anyway, the xz. Glad to know the op is pleased with it.
I'm considering the new nexus, should be details in a few days
If i had an option i'd swap my htc one for a nexus... i'm only being offered s4/xperia z in exchange for my htc one, and i doubt they'd offer me a newer phone like the lg g2 or xperia z1
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I'm undecided. Had my xz since UK launch and I'm disappointed with the rear panel raising up (need to discuss with my network ref a repair, but I know it will keep happening) and the camera can be a mixed bag. My other half has an HTC one, like it a lot.
Anyway, the xz. Glad to know the op is pleased with it.
I'm considering the new nexus, should be details in a few days
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New Z1 owner. Just wanna say hi to everyone.

Sorry mods if this is a wasted post. I promise not to do it again. But I am super excited about my Z1 arriving next week. I was a former Verizon user days away from ordering a Droid Maxx when I learned about this waterproof beast of a phone. It was enough to make me ditch my unlimited 4g (selling on ebay). I'm excited to root this thing and start participating in the discussions here. Its great to see this level of support here. I've been looking over the sticky guides so I think I am caught up on the rooting process and what not.
So, is there anything else I should know or prepare for upon receiving this phone? Looking forward to chatting with you all.
welcome man, z1 is a great phone, perfect design
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Sorry mods if this is a wasted post. I promise not to do it again. But I am super excited about my Z1 arriving next week. I was a former Verizon user days away from ordering a Droid Maxx when I learned about this waterproof beast of a phone. It was enough to make me ditch my unlimited 4g (selling on ebay). I'm excited to root this thing and start participating in the discussions here. Its great to see this level of support here. I've been looking over the sticky guides so I think I am caught up on the rooting process and what not.
So, is there anything else I should know or prepare for upon receiving this phone? Looking forward to chatting with you all.
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Welcome aboard and whatever you do, do not unlock it for now (and atleast do a TA-Backup). And if you're wondering why or what I'm talking about, do some more reading
Welcome, sent mine back a few days ago because my screen has a yellow hue (and the .257 update didn't fix it, should be getting a new unit in a week or so).
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Welcome aboard and whatever you do, do not unlock it for now (and atleast do a TA-Backup). And if you're wondering why or what I'm talking about, do some more reading
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Oh I caught that in my reading. I need the camera a lot and hoping timeshift will help me catch my elusive niece. Not too worried about custom roms yet, just need root to be happy. Thanks
Hi mate, welcome
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Also get a front and back screen protector and put it on the minute it comes out of the box.
For some reason unbeknownst to mankind, the people at Sony thought it necessary to laminate the scratch resistant Dragontrail glass with a satanic scratch prone plastic film.
They completely ****ed it up to be honest.
Yest soft lint will seemingly scratch it so make sure you cover both sides if you hate nasty scratches.
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Just got my Xperia Z1 to replace for Nexus 5 32gb today. Much better than any phone I have ever used before.
I also bought a case to protect it and Apple earpods for high music quality.
http://www.amazon.com/Apple-MD827LL...&qid=1385254462&sr=1-1&keywords=apple+earpods
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E2R4NNW/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1.
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Just got my Xperia Z1 to replace for Nexus 5 32gb today. Much better than any phone I have ever used before.
I also bought a case to protect it and Apple earpods for high music quality.
http://www.amazon.com/Apple-MD827LL...&qid=1385254462&sr=1-1&keywords=apple+earpods
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E2R4NNW/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1.
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Awesome, but LOL at apple earpods for high music quality. The in-box sony earpods sounds far better imo.
Also just saying Hi
Hey Guys
I don't normally do this but I'm SOOOOO excited about getting this phone that I also want to say Hi I should be receiving my Z1 tomorrow or Tuesday! It's an upgrade on my cellular contract :victory: Actually its the first time that I will be getting a current flagship device. I have been an avid Samsung supporter (old device is a Galaxy S2) but because of Samsung's unwillingness and flat out refusal to support the development community it has made me despise them to the nth degree! I will never, ever in my life get another Samsung device ever again! I originally wanted a Nexus 5 but South Africa does not (and it seems will never) provide the Nexus devices (tablets yes, but phones, no). They used too but stopped after the Galaxy Nexus. Trust me, a lot of people are unhappy about that in this country.
Anyway, the next option was Sony Z1 and to be honest, quite frankly I think I would have gone for the Sony anyway as this device is a MONSTER phone! The specs are outstanding and it will definitely be a top tier device for at least the next 2 years until my next upgrade. LOL, to be honest after Codworks and Entropy's praise of Sony, was the final deciding factor for me. I hope Samsung reads this because they lost a loyal customer and the dev community does indeed influence peoples choices, albeit the minority that we are but still, I have spread my hate wings of Samsung far and wide and have even influenced others not to buy them or go with their devices. Anyway, enough with the rants, I'm wiping my feet off on Samsung and that's that.
So proud to be a part of the Z1 community now! I know this device does have issues with unlocking the bootloader and breaking the camera but it has just recently being released so I'm pretty confident Sony will sort it out (as it is their flagship device after all!)
I never flash any of my phones with custom firmware or even stock from a different region until I have done extensive research on the device, so don't expect any silly questions from me as it will be a while until I know I am confident in what I am doing.
Anyway, hope you guys have an awesome day and I'm so exited I don't think I can even sleep well tonight!!
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Hehe cute post, I'm happy for you! :good:
You should root it though, it doesn't need unlocked BL for that. And yea, Samsung is a no no from now on.

New Owner of Xperia Z Tablet

:good: Hey everyone my new Xperia Z tablet arrives tomorrow, I am replacing my Xperia S tablet which was a pretty good tablet in my experience, but due to Sony offering no more updates beyond 4.1. I felt it was time to move on and sell it.
I ordered and received the Sony screen protector, I used the Sony brand on my Xperia S with good results.,I also ordered the cradle and I got a case from amazon ..
I already have a 32Gig Micro Card to put in the tablet.
I will check for any software updates first thing, not sure what version Sony will ship it with.
Any other suggestions would be helpful...
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:good: Hey everyone my new Xperia Z tablet arrives tomorrow, I am replacing my Xperia S tablet which was a pretty good tablet in my experience, but due to Sony offering no more updates beyond 4.1. I felt it was time to move on and sell it.
I ordered and received the Sony screen protector, I used the Sony brand on my Xperia S with good results.,I also ordered the cradle and I got a case from amazon ..
I already have a 32Gig Micro Card to put in the tablet.
I will check for any software updates first thing, not sure what version Sony will ship it with.
Any other suggestions would be helpful...
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There's no need for a screen protector. There is one preinstalled. Many of us here remove that annoying thing. :laugh:
Depending on how important the newest software is for you you can stick to sonys 4.2.2 software wich i very stable and working well or you switch to custom ROMs.
Personally i am running CM 4.4.1 (FreeXperia) on mine and it is a great and 100% stable ROM.
Just do not forget to backup your TA partition before you unlock your bootloader
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Getting one next month
Hello, im also getting my Xperia Tablet Z in about a month, i have already planned on rooting it and installing a custom rom, im currently only owning a Samsung Galaxy S3 (GT-i9300) which also is running 4.4.1 that is stable and works flawlessly with ART instead of Dalvik, will i be able to run ART on the tablet as well? (sorry for "stealing" the topic) xD
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Hello, im also getting my Xperia Tablet Z in about a month, i have already planned on rooting it and installing a custom rom, im currently only owning a Samsung Galaxy S3 (GT-i9300) which also is running 4.4.1 that is stable and works flawlessly with ART instead of Dalvik, will i be able to run ART on the tablet as well? (sorry for "stealing" the topic) xD
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Yes (or should, as it has a Snapdragon processor). And, as I said before, don't forget to backup your TA before doing anything.
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Felimenta97 said:
Yes (or should, as it has a Snapdragon processor). And, as I said before, don't forget to backup your TA before doing anything.
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Thanks everyone, just got it and updated to the latest 4.2, shipped with 4.1.2.
Impressions thus far is Wow, what a lovely display..
Seems very snappy..
Updating apps at the moment and charging as well, came with about 60%.
If I understand correctly doesn't removing the protective layer Void the warranty..
Right now so long as it offers scratch protection I will keep it on...
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Thanks everyone, just got it and updated to the latest 4.2, shipped with 4.1.2.
Impressions thus far is Wow, what a lovely display..
Seems very snappy..
Updating apps at the moment and charging as well, came with about 60%.
If I understand correctly doesn't removing the protective layer Void the warranty..
Right now so long as it offers scratch protection I will keep it on...
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No, it doesn't void the warranty by removing it...
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No, it doesn't void the warranty by removing it...
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Good to hear, think I will leave it for the time being for scratch protection and replace it at a later time..
Love this baby already...
Coworker bought my Xperia S and seems quite pleased...
Well looks like I have to return my Xperia tablet for a replacement , woke up this morning to find my tablet with a yellow line the width of a thread running up the left side of the screen, contacted support and they had me do a complete factory reinstall of the OS, but looks like it did not correct the problem, awaiting the return call to give them the bad news, he told me if it did not work they would set up a exchange..
Oh well these things happen..
Wow, not to pleased with my service with Sony, seems they don't do exchanges..WTF!!!!
Tech support transferred me back, instructing me to set up an exchange...
After several minutes the Sony rep comes back and states they do not offer exchanges, only refunds..
So I was forced to order another Tablet and pay for it of course since I will basically be without a tablet...
Then when Sony receives my defective tablet it will take up to 2 weeks to process the refund....Although they were kind enough to pay the return shipping...
Wow this is my first issue with Sony over the years and I find this a bit troubling especially on a tablet less than a day and a half old......
Heck Dell sent me a new Alienware laptop do to a minor problem and told me to hang on to my old one till the replacement arrives..
Thus no down time, but for Sony to offer zero exchanges only refunds on basically a brand new items in a bit stupid...
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Actually it is pretty scratchy. It protects the glass under it, but if you don't plan on removing it because of warranty reasons, you may want to put a screen protector ON it.
It's quite stupid they put a plastic sheet on the scratch-resistant glass. But I haven't removed mine yet.
OK, Got my replacement in and thus far no screen issues, decided to put on the Sony screen protector and boy what a piece of crap, quickly dumped that idea..
Seems I now have a defect free tablet and could not be more pleased...

To those of you with 4.4.4

I currently have a z2 which I love, but have a few issues with it. I am hoping someone that had a z2 can chime in and let me know if some things have been fixed on 4.4.4 For example, sometimes for no reason whatsoever my wifi wont connect, it wont even enable sometimes. I read that 4.4.4 fixes that. Since the z3 ships with 4.4.4 I was hoping that some of these problems have been solved. Calls on the z2 via speakphone are just plain impossible as well. The other caller hears nothing but echos, with or without noise supression on and trying all the different call settings. The earpiece is also pretty quiet, which can be frustrating in loud environments. I also find that web pages constantly have to reload with google chrome (which drives me insane!!!) and something I think should not be a problem with 3gb of ram. Also whats the deal with the auto brightness barely functioning on the z2? I wake up in the morning and am blinded by pure UV rays coming out of my phone screen, but when I go outside I cant see the screen. Auto brightness does not work well at all for me.
The last nail in the coffin for me is that I only have 16gb of storage and am already maxed out. I have a few big games that hog memory, but all of my media is on my external sd card. Does the z3 have the ability to store apps on the sd card?
I am hoping some of these issues are resolved, otherwise I will have to jump to the nexus, which I am not so sure about. I love my sony phone.
We all dont still have the update yet on our Z2 with 4.4.4 so we cannot said if something is fixed like the small issues, we can know that if we have and running on 4.4.4 !
Sent From My Personal MW Revolution On My Xperia Z2
There's a 4.4.4 leak in the dev section and I was hoping someone grabbed the z3 already.
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There's a 4.4.4 leak in the dev section and I was hoping someone grabbed the z3 already.
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We saw that already !
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1. alot of these big anoying problems has been resolved by sony in 4.4.4 simply because people complained about them
2. 4.4.4 Isnt even out yet
3. if you think nexus is better for you then go for it, patience is needed sometimes and often with Xperias concidering 2014 has been the roughest year for Sony, losing 2.1 bln and also a huge loss in fans/customers after Z2 release
problems are here and sony is fixing them
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3. if you think nexus is better for you then go for it, patience is needed sometimes and often with Xperias concidering 2014 has been the roughest year for Sony, losing 2.1 bln and also a huge loss in fans/customers after Z2 release
problems are here and sony is fixing them
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3. doesn't matter, we got Jerpelea now Sony just needs to get their sh** together on the hardware side and we may look into a bright future!
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2014 has been the roughest year for Sony, losing 2.1 bln and also a huge loss in fans/customers after Z2 release
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Indeed 2014 is a rough year for Sony at the moment but Sony get back asap and that for real hard !! ^^
I will and stay a true supporter to Sony for sure
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3. doesn't matter, we got Jerpelea now Sony just needs to get their sh** together on the hardware side and we may look into a bright future!
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well lets hope he sees all our problems in XDA and relays back to the development teams of the stock rom
which seems to be the case
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Indeed 2014 is a rough year for Sony at the moment but Sony get back asap and that for real hard !! ^^
I will and stay a true supporter to Sony for sure
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Nokia 3310>Nokia N95>Xperia S>Xperia Z2
all my phones ever
never going to any other brand sony is great because our XDA developers are kind and sony continues fighting some how
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sony is great because our XDA developers are kind ......
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Hahahaha you should have been on the X10i Forums in the early days xD
Some ROM cookers even quit XDA and went to other boards because the harassment became to big, everyone was accusing others of stealing their tweaks and insulting others till mods banned all
Those were the days!
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Hahahaha you should have been on the X10i Forums in the early days xD
Some ROM cookers even quit XDA and went to other boards because the harassment became to big, everyone was accusing others of stealing their tweaks and insulting others till mods banned all
Those were the days!
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hmm guess i am being ignorant
there are some people here in XDA being EXTREMLY RUDE!
and some people stealing of course..
i instinctivly ignore bad things for some reason... just had to take a look around without my glasses on.
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Hahahaha you should have been on the X10i Forums in the early days xD
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@Haldi4803
Hmm the good old Xperia X10i days some years ago, then you should know me also, i was working with my brother @Wolfbreak on his rom to fix some stuff with succes and still working and talking with him sometimes,
He is the member that i know as the longest here and then brother @serajr came also 4 almost 5 years ago ^^
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well lets hope he sees all our problems in XDA and relays back to the development teams of the stock rom
which seems to be the case
Nokia 3310>Nokia N95>Xperia S>Xperia Z2
all my phones ever
never going to any other brand sony is great because our XDA developers are kind and sony continues fighting some how
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Well that hope is true and XDA is a great for us Stock Rom modders ^^
Well i never use another brand this are my previous device of Sony (Ericsson)
K500i > K700i >K750i > K800i > K810i > S500i > W580i > W850i
Then came Android:
Xperia: X10i > Neo V > P > Z and now Z2
Sony is always fighting back as we know and smash the other brands into the ground.
Sony is just the best in my eyes !
Sent From My Personal MW Revolution On My Xperia Z2
Using .314 and don't have any issues. No WiFi disconnect, earpiece speakers sounds excellent, great camera. My next phone will definitely be another Sony.
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@Haldi4803
Hmm the good old Xperia X10i days some years ago, then you should know me also, i was working with my brother @Wolfbreak on his rom to fix some stuff with succes and still working and talking with him sometimes,
He is the member that i know as the longest here and then brother @serajr came also 4 almost 5 years ago ^^
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@Pandemic
My names memory is somewhat bad.
But I do remember The Wolfbreaks ROMs. He's still alive ? xD greetings to him. And my thanks to you guys for creating such awesome ROMs.
P.S
When everyone is doing it
T68i>S700i>W580>C905>X10i>Z>Z2 xD
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Hahahaha you should have been on the X10i Forums in the early days xD
Some ROM cookers even quit XDA and went to other boards because the harassment became to big, everyone was accusing others of stealing their tweaks and insulting others till mods banned all
Those were the days!
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I think what you meant to say was "those were the dark days "
As for 2014 being a bad one for Sony, well it's hardly surprising when a company makes idiotic choices, they pay a penalty for it. Releasing a new flashship phone every six months was bound to create the sort of confusion that would a) scare some potential customers away
b) piss the hell out of existing customers
c)devalue the brand to the point where it becomes painful purchasing their devices
Sony is an old school company struggling to fully embrace the new world order. Look what's happened to the other old schoolers Nokia, Blackberry, Sony Ericsson. They all failed as commercial entities. Sony bought out Ericsson and we hoped that would usher in a new dawn and philosophy. Things at first seemed promising but they've reverted back to type.
It won't be long at this rate when Sony ends up selling it's mobile division to the Chinese lol! It's failing and something drastic needs to happen. The z4 is looking now like a very important device. Make or break indeed! They really can't afford any screw ups there.
Don't get me wrong they've done Ok at times. The Z was very successful because of the novelty of waterproofing.
The Z2 was top notch but was delayed and by the time it became widely available, rumours of the z3 totally killed off its chances.
In between these two good releases, we had the underwhelming Z1 and the pointless Z3.
"One step forward and two steps backwards " should be written on the tomb stone of Sony mobile if it doesn't survive.
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Sony clearly stated that they are not suffering because of their flagship range. They devalued their low-mid range portfolio by writing off goodwill. It has ZERO relation to the Z series.
It seems the 6 months cycle does work. They've been doing it since 2011 and never had to devalue their flagship range.
a) First time I heard that 6 months cycle "scares" customers. Maybe you solely?
b) As above
c) I don't know whether you're basing this on your perspective or overall customer's. Normal human don't feel pain when buying phones with a 6 months cycle:
-It's a just a phone
-No one changes phone half-yearly
And I don't find Sony selling its mobile division to Chinese companies funny.
Again it's based on your personal perception that the Z1 was underwhelming and Z3 was pointless.
Z2 was targeted at Z users and the Z3 was for Z.
If you do not like Sony, instead of waiting the board space of your rants, go get the Galaxy smartphone. I'm sure the fingerprint sensor is revolutionary and excites you!
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I think what you meant to say was "those were the dark days "
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They were dark, but also great!
The first 60hz hack for the Screen! Or all the attempts on multi touch and 32m color.
And all those brand new 2.2 roms without camera... fully working 1080p fotos xD
But i agree with the 6Month cycle problem.
If i ask around a lot of people have a Iphone6 or a Galaxy S5 because it is something. Everyone knows its good... its a status symbol.
If you have a 6 Months cycle your phone is old! Even if you just bought it. Even if the technical details arent much different.
Btw, hasnt sony mobile written red numbers for a few years now?
But i agree with the 6Month cycle problem.
If i ask around a lot of people have a Iphone6 or a Galaxy S5 because it is something. Everyone knows its good... its a status symbol.
If you have a 6 Months cycle your phone is old! Even if you just bought it. Even if the technical details arent much different.
Btw, hasnt sony mobile written red numbers for a few years now?[/QUOTE]
They actually posted a small profit last year but that was because of the original Z's sales riding high on the waterproof wave! Remember the 5 million units sold in 60 days.
Unfortunately it was a momentum they squandered soon after with the z1. The z2 had a chance of matching and even beating that but delays scuppered its progress.
I'm hopefully they'll have something worthwhile with the z4. Let's just hope they release it early like they did with the Z and not cripple it with rumours following shortly after of another flagship in September.
Sony's running out of time to keep making idiotic mistakes. It's a philosophical thing. There are just some people there at Sony convinced that they can break through doing what they're doing now. I'm sure there'll also be some voices calling for a change in direction. Let's hope those voices get heard. No company can sustain losses indefinitely.
I'm already at the end of my tether and unless I see official word from Sony confirming that the 6 month cycle is no more, I'll be going with the s6 next year. No htc for me, they're just another idiotic company that think metal is the answer to all the world's ills lol.
Having said that, the new oppo with its very slim profile looks delicious but I think I'll pass on that.
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Again it's based on your personal perception that the Z1 was underwhelming and Z3 was pointless.
Z2 was targeted at Z users and the Z3 was for Z.
If you do not like Sony, instead of waiting the board space of your rants, go get the Galaxy smartphone. I'm sure the fingerprint sensor is revolutionary and excites you!
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You must be living under a rock. The Internet is littered with frustration at the 6 month cycle. Be that websites, YouTube, Google plus etc. Again and again you'll find frustration with this policy.
Even Sony execs keep getting challenged every time they do interviews. It's reported that one of them said recently that it was unsustainable.
Not devaluing the brand? Won't even bother answering that.
Yes mine was a rant but it was more logical than the fanboy nonsense you just spouted!
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Your post lack depth. Again, Sony clearly stated that their flagship did not affect their earnings. As simple as that. Either I trust Sony's internal performance auditors or trust you? lol.
lee480 said:
Your post lack depth. Again, Sony clearly stated that their flagship did not affect their earnings. As simple as that. Either I trust Sony's internal performance auditors or trust you? lol.
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http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/10/30/sony-replaces-head-of-mobile-division/
Don't care who you trust. The original Z was the last successful flashship from Sony. They're just trying to blame their failings on the mid range segment to avoid damaging the rep of their flashships.
The problem is ubiquitous! The iPhone 6 sold more in a weekend than the z3 will sell in its entire lifespan! In fact make that two life times!
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Lol trying assert unverified fact from an unreliable person. It's ok, it's normal, go get an iPhone and stop terrorising The Z2 forumz
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IMPORTANT! Read this before you pre-order Xperia XZ Premium!

So I’ll start with admitting that I’m a huge Sony fan and maybe even a fanboy. However at the same time I’m smart and don’t like being taken for a ride. Almost all electronics in my house are made by Sony. I have Sony TV, Sony radio, PlayStation (I had all PlayStation models, including PSP and Vita), Sony Home Theatre, and owned many more Sony products over the years (countless Walkman’s, phones, TVs, radios, mp3 players, etc.). I can easily say that I spent in excess of £10,000 on Sony products over the years. I have also convinced countless friends and family members to choose Sony products acting as their brand ambassador for years and can only imagine how much income it got Sony. Unfortunately over the last 4 years my love and trust to Sony brand has been seriously weakened to the point where I’m seriously considering abandoning it forever. I will now tell you why.
It’s all to do with Xperias. I had Xperia Z1, Z2 and now Z5 (and would probably have more if it wasn’t due to issues with other models). It looks like I have a Stockholm syndrome as I’m also planning to buy Xperia XZ Premium however I will wait until people buy it and post their opinion to this and XDA forum (and I urge you to do the same). And this is why:
- Xperia Z3+ - https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z3/Xperia-Z3-overheating-on-32-2-A-0-253/td-p/1152305
- Xperia Z5 - https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z5-Z5-Compact-Z5-Premium/Z5C-blurry-camera-images-more-blur-on-the-left-side/td-p/1043401
- Xperia XZ - https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-XZ/Camera-extremely-grainy/m-p/1184016
Every time they botch something their response is appalling! They either deny the issue exists or ignore it and never fix it. My Xperia Z5 still disconnects from WiFi and Sony still didn’t fix it after few months of the problem being brought to their attention. Just go and see the pathetic responses (or complete lack thereof) on the countless forum threads where people are literally begging Sony for help!
This is why I urge you to:
1. If you placed the pre-order already: cancel it and wait for the reviews and forum threads to see if the new models are free of issues. Don’t let Sony take you for a ride and show them they have to care more about their customers!
2. If you didn’t pre-order, wait with your purchase until more people have it in their hands and can post their problems (or hopefully lack of thereof) online!
3. Do not believe the Sony marketing and do not succumb to the hype! Do you remember “No more blurred photos” and how the predictive movement feature failed to work on Xperia Xz? Yeah, exactly that Sony! Don’t let Sony treat you like that and have respect for your hard earned money.
And if you still trust them with the pre-order maybe this will change your mind. While this was done with the pre-production unit and might still be fixed in the final software release it looks like the Xperia XZ photo processing issues are still present in the new models. Please see this YouTube video for first photo comparisons with other models.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xa8OmKzCJsE
And here’s a little bonus post of mine from 2016 to prove I'm not all doom & gloom Njoy!
https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z5-Z5-Compact-Z5-Premium/Xperia-Z5-problems-finally-sorted-5th-attempt/td-p/1128684
Thanks
i dont lost my trust to sony ^^ already preordered Sh*t happens *
You can find any number of complaints with any number of brands - for every complaint there's probably hundreds or thousands of satisfied customers that understandably aren't posting that they're completely satisfied because they don't feel the need to.
I appreciate you've experienced problems in the past, but I doubt the vast majority of people will cancel a preorder on your say-so.
However I am confused that you say you're planning to get the xz premium, having pointed out problems with their recent phones and their response to these problems! If you've had some many issues (I, for one, haven't had any) then why not take a leap of faith and try one of the many alternatives out there?
I admit there have been some issues as mentioned with previous Sony phones. The premium xz seems like they really have a winner. Think I'm going to go for it. Thanks.
Like sony, lg (boot loop issues) and samsung (exploding battery and red tint) have had issues. Every flagship will have a pro and con. It's all about taking a leap of faith.
where am i able to fully preorder i preordered with Clove but they arent taking payments yet
Thank you for this.... I will wait for some real life battery tests and photos.
martin042068 said:
I admit there have been some issues as mentioned with previous Sony phones. The premium xz seems like they really have a winner. Think I'm going to go for it. Thanks.
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Unfortunately judging by the reviews it looks like there is again issues with the camera and like the Z5 how often you can actually get to use the screen at 4K.
I've had every Sony phone and absolutely adored XZ, now have XZs as temp phone while I patiently wait for my Premium .
Sensination said:
So I’ll start with admitting that I’m a huge Sony fan and maybe even a fanboy. However at the same time I’m smart and don’t like being taken for a ride. Almost all electronics in my house are made by Sony. I have Sony TV, Sony radio, PlayStation (I had all PlayStation models, including PSP and Vita), Sony Home Theatre, and owned many more Sony products over the years (countless Walkman’s, phones, TVs, radios, mp3 players, etc.). I can easily say that I spent in excess of £10,000 on Sony products over the years. I have also convinced countless friends and family members to choose Sony products acting as their brand ambassador for years and can only imagine how much income it got Sony. Unfortunately over the last 4 years my love and trust to Sony brand has been seriously weakened to the point where I’m seriously considering abandoning it forever. I will now tell you why.
It’s all to do with Xperias. I had Xperia Z1, Z2 and now Z5 (and would probably have more if it wasn’t due to issues with other models). It looks like I have a Stockholm syndrome as I’m also planning to buy Xperia XZ Premium however I will wait until people buy it and post their opinion to this and XDA forum (and I urge you to do the same). And this is why:
- Xperia Z3+ - https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z3/Xperia-Z3-overheating-on-32-2-A-0-253/td-p/1152305
- Xperia Z5 - https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z5-Z5-Compact-Z5-Premium/Z5C-blurry-camera-images-more-blur-on-the-left-side/td-p/1043401
- Xperia XZ - https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-XZ/Camera-extremely-grainy/m-p/1184016
Every time they botch something their response is appalling! They either deny the issue exists or ignore it and never fix it. My Xperia Z5 still disconnects from WiFi and Sony still didn’t fix it after few months of the problem being brought to their attention. Just go and see the pathetic responses (or complete lack thereof) on the countless forum threads where people are literally begging Sony for help!
This is why I urge you to:
1. If you placed the pre-order already: cancel it and wait for the reviews and forum threads to see if the new models are free of issues. Don’t let Sony take you for a ride and show them they have to care more about their customers!
2. If you didn’t pre-order, wait with your purchase until more people have it in their hands and can post their problems (or hopefully lack of thereof) online!
3. Do not believe the Sony marketing and do not succumb to the hype! Do you remember “No more blurred photos” and how the predictive movement feature failed to work on Xperia Xz? Yeah, exactly that Sony! Don’t let Sony treat you like that and have respect for your hard earned money.
And if you still trust them with the pre-order maybe this will change your mind. While this was done with the pre-production unit and might still be fixed in the final software release it looks like the Xperia XZ photo processing issues are still present in the new models. Please see this YouTube video for first photo comparisons with other models.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xa8OmKzCJsE
And here’s a little bonus post of mine from 2016 to prove I'm not all doom & gloom Njoy!
https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z5-Z5-Compact-Z5-Premium/Xperia-Z5-problems-finally-sorted-5th-attempt/td-p/1128684
Thanks
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There's a possibility for the phone to have issues with any manufacturer (Samsung Note 7's fire, LG G5's boot loop, some Snapdragon 810 phones overheat). If you can wait, don't just wait for "professional" reviews, wait a few months for actual user feedback. My current phone had great reviews, but turns out the software is a pos. From all the previews of the XZP it looks great, but I'm still not spending $900 until I see some real user reviews.
Another thing to know before ordering : It seems it isn't true 4K.
English translation of a detailed French review of the screen : https://translate.google.com/transl...z-premium-ecran-4k-qui-en-est-pas-n63477.html
awdrifter said:
From all the previews of the XZP it looks great, but I'm still not spending $900 until I see some real user reviews.
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I ordered mine from the UK. Paid $676.63 shipped. If you deduct the value of the Sony SRS-XB20... about $100.00... then that means I only paid $576.63 TOTAL. No tax, all in English, same warranty, free gift, and the fingerprint sensor works great!
Why so many are saying $900.00 is beyond me when it does NOT have to be that way! :silly:
jaseman said:
I ordered mine from the UK. Paid $676.63 shipped. If you deduct the value of the Sony SRS-XB20... about $100.00... then that means I only paid $576.63 TOTAL. No tax, all in English, same warranty, free gift, and the fingerprint sensor works great!
Why so many are saying $900.00 is beyond me when it does NOT have to be that way! :silly:
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Where did you get it for that cheap? Are you talking about £676? Everywhere I look are from $850-900 (USD).
awdrifter said:
Where did you get it for that cheap? Are you talking about £676? Everywhere I look are from $850-900 (USD).
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I bought mine from https://www.unlocked-mobiles.com/sim-free-mobile-phones/sony-xperia-xz-premium-sim-free-p-87511.html
There is no VAT (tax) and the amount I mentioned in my post is what was withdrawn from my account. That is the truth! After it shipped I received it two days later. :good:
Sildran said:
Another thing to know before ordering : It seems it isn't true 4K.
English translation of a detailed French review of the screen : https://translate.google.com/transl...z-premium-ecran-4k-qui-en-est-pas-n63477.html
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Seems like the reviewer doesn't realize that the phone runs at 1080p unless the app specifically requests 4K mode. Same as Z5 Premium. He's doing 1080p to 1440p comparisons. The results are obvious.
Interesting topic! But there's more to think about, especially differentiate between software and hardware issues.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xa8OmKzCJsE
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Sonys Beauty Mode is a little annoying, because it's not deactivatable. But this can be circumvented by using a different camera app. I like an app called Snap Camera HDR. This is just an example for software related issues that usually can be fixed by using alternative apps or roms, rooting, Magisk, Xposed, and so on.
Hardware related issues are a bigger problem of course. But most of them are warrenty cases and you can return or replace the device. This doesn't change that it's very disapointing if you like your Xperia, but oh well.
Some people have to be the first ones to get the divice. If everyone waits for the others, we'll never get experience reports.
For **** sake, I pre ordered it at a webshop but they didn't ship the phones in chronological order so people who ordered it a day before rrlease got it first and I have to wait at least until next week for mine because there's not enough in my country
Pre order Unlocked Mobil
jaseman said:
I bought mine from https://www.unlocked-mobiles.com/sim-free-mobile-phones/sony-xperia-xz-premium-sim-free-p-87511.html
There is no VAT (tax) and the amount I mentioned in my post is what was withdrawn from my account. That is the truth! After it shipped I received it two days later. :good:
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Got my Chrome one yesterday from Unlocked Mobil 537.48 and no VAT. Took them awhile (not their fault) to get the Chrome one in that were preordered. Very good service and price.
martin042068 said:
Got my Chrome one yesterday from Unlocked Mobil 537.48 and no VAT. Took them awhile (not their fault) to get the Chrome one in that were preordered. Very good service and price.
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@martin042068 @jaseman Did you guys order this from Unlocked Mobiles, from the US? I placed an order too with them - but there are several back and forth emails regarding some TAC# and authorization. When I called AMEX, they say its pending from Unlocked Mobile. Did you go through this extra sec check? How long was it until you received the handset? Also their website says 2 yrs warranty on Int'l orders too - was that right?
Thanks for your response in advance!
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@[email protected] Did you guys order this from Unlocked Mobiles, from the US? I placed an order too with them - but there are several back and forth emails regarding some TAC# and authorization. When I called AMEX, they say its pending from Unlocked Mobile. Did you go through this extra sec check? How long was it until you received the handset? Also their website says 2 yrs warranty on Int'l orders too - was that right?
Thanks for your response in advance!
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I ordered from there and did not go through that step. Shipped and delivered in 4 days.

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