As I understand it, we have to use a 3rd party WiFi tether application to get tethering for free.
With the release of Froyo, Google announced that it would have WiFi hotspot capabilities built in. How is it that Verizon can charge us for something the OS has built in? What would have to happen to be able to use the built in WiFi hotspot application for free? (e.g. carrier unlock, rooted 2.2 official etc)
I'm also wondering if there is any real advantage to using the built in WiFi hotspot feature. With the 3rd party apps, I tend to get kicked off once in a while from other apps trying to perform background operations. (see the 'What keeps killing tethering or turning wifi/GPS on during tether?' section at http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/wiki/FAQ ). I'm also wondering if it's any faster.
dvation191 said:
As I understand it, we have to use a 3rd party WiFi tether application to get tethering for free.
With the release of Froyo, Google announced that it would have WiFi hotspot capabilities built in. How is it that Verizon can charge us for something the OS has built in? What would have to happen to be able to use the built in WiFi hotspot application for free? (e.g. carrier unlock, rooted 2.2 official etc)
I'm also wondering if there is any real advantage to using the built in WiFi hotspot feature. With the 3rd party apps, I tend to get kicked off once in a while from other apps trying to perform background operations. (see the 'What keeps killing tethering or turning wifi/GPS on during tether?' section at http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/wiki/FAQ ). I'm also wondering if it's any faster.
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Thats a good question you should ask google/verizon about, verizon pay way cancels out google tether/portable hotspot in froyo, that option not even there inside of wireless & networks section.
During my recent probe to find the best way to tether my phone having access to all the settings i came across this little apk for the android phones which replaces the built in system.
Your phone must be rooted to use this file, i know some networks like sprint lockdown the tether options, this gets around that issue.
I dont know if its been posted here before or not, but i hope some of you guys may find it useful and the page is very useful info.
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
Try it on my note running midnote ICS 3.2. Doesn't work, my note freeze and have to reboot.
whats wrong with the tethering and portable hotspot setting in the wireless and networks... it is simple to use and works great..no root needed.... its on the stock rom...
If third party tethering app, then i say 'wireless tether' is better
It supports thethring via blutooth too, As well having mac security option.
dr.ketan said:
If third party tethering app, then i say 'wireless tether' is better
It supports thethring via blutooth too, As well having mac security option.
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Both my daughter's Macbook Air and my wife's Dell laptop have successfully connected wirelessly to my Galaxy Note and downloaded stuff from the Net. With H+ speed it is as quick as my ADSL+ connection at home!
It is so easy to setup ... Settings > Wireless and Network > Tethering and Portable hotspot. Make sure you choose a good password!
Hi all
Now, i know this might seem like an odd request at first! "The N7 relies on wifi to get internet, so why would you want to tether it??" etc.
I use Power Controls and it has a toggle for wifi tether. when turned on, the n7 does indeed turn into a wifi hub. I can see it on my phone. As it stands however, i cant change any of the settings. Using Apex launcher i can make a shortcut in to the thethering and wifi hotspot in settings however all i get is a blank window
N7 can be turned into a mobile wifi hotspot for doing things like file transfers/sharing stuff that you cant do via bluetooth.
Eg, sending an app to a friends n7 via datasync (as an example!)
Anyone know if its possible to change the settings for wifi hotspot anywhere else?
I finally got a Bluetooth PAN app to work. I have a rooted Motoactv and have been searching for a way to connect the watch without the battery dain of having the wifi radio running for extended period of time. With bluetooth tethering, I can run it all day and have my watch connected whenever I want to do sonething requiring internet access.
The apps name is Bluetooth PAN Client by SilentLexx, just do a search in tbe Android Market. It requires superuser permission so make sure you have "accept" automatically selected in your superuser settings, so you dont get the prompt without the pop up window to accept it.
Works great!
Not sure how much of a difference it would make since my actv has good battery life. I would still try it. Thanks for the info
What kind of battery life you talking about
Well, when wifi is connected, I get 4hrs. With Bluetooth PAN, triple that.
Note that this method has all kinds of issues with apps that check connectivity using the normal java system calls, which are basically buggy (they only report connectivity for wifi or mobile network, not for PAN or VPNs). Unfortunately this is a large number of apps, including google's own. Therefore when using PAN, most email won't sync, apps won't update etc etc.
Oh wow, thanks for that info. I was wondering why I couldn't get Google Voice to work like usual.
I just use it to do quick on demand web surfing/Google searches, eBay, Craigslist, Slacker radio, weather, and email. I just manually refresh my email accounts as I see the need.
Navigation works great with BT PAN and since it has a huge power savings, I use it all the time for turn-by-turn nav.
Hi I've been using the Motoactv for a couple weeks and have gotten it rooted. I am really interested in tethering through bluetooth. I read about you downloading Bluetooth Pan and getting it to work. I tried this today but I have not gotten it to work. Can you give a detailed description of what you did? I tried downloading Bluetooth Pan on both phone (Samsung S3) and Motoactv but I wasn't able to get it to work. Thank you in advance!
To date, I dont think your S3 has bluetooth tethering until it updates to 4.3 which should be very soon, matter of days. You only need the app. on the Actv, launch it and select your phone as the device and select connect. Let me know what errors your getting we can troubleshoot.
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To date, I dont think your S3 has bluetooth tethering until it updates to 4.3 which should be very soon, matter of days. You only need the app. on the Actv, launch it and select your phone as the device and select connect. Let me know what errors your getting we can troubleshoot.
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Oh no wonder! Yeah I'm running rooted 4.1.2 on the S3. Ok thanks for all your help!!
darock933 said:
Oh no wonder! Yeah I'm running rooted 4.1.2 on the S3. Ok thanks for all your help!!
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I am able to BT tether my motoACTV to my VZW S3 running a 4.1.2 ROM. 4.3 is not a requirement.
The main issue I had was that I could not access the "Tap to connect" button in the Bluetooth PAN for root app on my motoACTV in order to initiate the connection with my phone as the stock dpi (120) would not show the button. I am using the Xposed framework and App Settings apk for Gingerbread to allow per-app DPI and had to set the DPI of the BT PAN for root app to 90dpi in order to access the "Tap to Connect" button on the actv.
On the S3, be sure that bluetooth tethering is enabled by going into Settings -> More Settings (Wireless and Networks) -> Tethering -> Bluetooth Tethering.
Hope this helps.
Thats a simple fix. Go into the PAN app. setting and select the Auto Switch and Auto Connect by checking the boxes. Should work fine.
ronfurro said:
Thats a simple fix. Go into the PAN app. setting and select the Auto Switch and Auto Connect by checking the boxes. Should work fine.
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How do you turn off tethering when you want to using this option? Do you manually turn off BT?
Artimis said:
I am able to BT tether my motoACTV to my VZW S3 running a 4.1.2 ROM. 4.3 is not a requirement.
The main issue I had was that I could not access the "Tap to connect" button in the Bluetooth PAN for root app on my motoACTV in order to initiate the connection with my phone as the stock dpi (120) would not show the button. I am using the Xposed framework and App Settings apk for Gingerbread to allow per-app DPI and had to set the DPI of the BT PAN for root app to 90dpi in order to access the "Tap to Connect" button on the actv.
On the S3, be sure that bluetooth tethering is enabled by going into Settings -> More Settings (Wireless and Networks) -> Tethering -> Bluetooth Tethering.
Hope this helps.
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That's interesting, I think the problem is that my phone is AT&T S3 and in the stock 4.1.2 there's no option for "bluetooth tethering" under tethering and portable hotspot menu. I'm guessing like OP said maybe have to wait for 4.3.
I also had a hard time with the "Tap to connect" button too because I can't see. Eventually when I am able to get it to bluetooth tether I will revisit the Xposed framework.
Thanks for your help!!
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How do you turn off tethering when you want to using this option? Do you manually turn off BT?
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You can leave it running as it doen't run your battery down or inhibit you from connecting other BT items to the Actv. Or just turn off your BT tethering from your phone.
darock933 said:
That's interesting, I think the problem is that my phone is AT&T S3 and in the stock 4.1.2 there's no option for "bluetooth tethering" under tethering and portable hotspot menu. I'm guessing like OP said maybe have to wait for 4.3.
I also had a hard time with the "Tap to connect" button too because I can't see. Eventually when I am able to get it to bluetooth tether I will revisit the Xposed framework.
Thanks for your help!!
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No problem. Alternatively, you can try an app for your phone like FoxFi or an older Wifi Tethering by TrevE apk (supports BT tether). Just throwing out options while waiting for the official update.
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You can leave ot running as it doent run your battery down or inhibit you from connecting other BT items to the Actv. Or just turn off your BT tethering from your phone.
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The issue I've had with BT tether is that certain apps don't recognize it as a valid connection (has been discussed before). For example, with the market, I can browse apps but when it comes time to actually download or update an app, the process will hang when tethering. Need to switch to wifi to do it which requires disabling BT tether first (or there are conflicts). I suppose I could do it from the phone but I like controlling it for the ACTV.
Good to know the options are there though. Thanks.
darock933 said:
That's interesting, I think the problem is that my phone is AT&T S3 and in the stock 4.1.2 there's no option for "bluetooth tethering" under tethering and portable hotspot menu. I'm guessing like OP said maybe have to wait for 4.3.
I also had a hard time with the "Tap to connect" button too because I can't see. Eventually when I am able to get it to bluetooth tether I will revisit the Xposed framework.
Thanks for your help!!
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I have an AT&T S4 with 4.3. Still no bt tether. I can't even get foxfi to work. It starts and enables the bt tether, but no devices can use it. Does it need root maybe?
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No, make sure that you have connected it to the Motoactv sync at least once, so the Actv. has your devise in the BT registry. Once listed on the BT Pan app. you should be able to initiate the connection via the Actv.
I'm curious, what apps are people successfully using with BT PAN, and with which ROM (dprom or ClearD)? I can connect to my Droid 4 using SilentLexx's Bluetooth PAN for Root Users, but nothing seems to work including Boat Browser, which I thought others had reported as working.
Using CleatD and SilentLexx: Boat Browser, Navigation, Google Maps, News Republic, News and Weather widget.
ronfurro said:
Oh wow, thanks for that info. I was wondering why I couldn't get Google Voice to work like usual.
I just use it to do quick on demand web surfing/Google searches, eBay, Craigslist, Slacker radio, weather, and email. I just manually refresh my email accounts as I see the need.
Navigation works great with BT PAN and since it has a huge power savings, I use it all the time for turn-by-turn nav.
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If you can install xposed framework, GravityBox has a `network spoofer' that tricks the system into thinking wifi is active instead of BT PAN. I tried it on my Galaxy Gear, have not made the time to do so on my Moto. The thread that talks aboot it is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48324006
If that method isn't viable, then perhaps there is another spoofer on the market to achieve the same goal....
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Has anyone been able to get WiFi Tether to work without rooting their device? Picked up a Blackberry Priv for work and it's a great device. Considering getting one for personal use on Verizon.
I often use a WiFi tethering and I had no problem with that functionality. You can enable the tethering in the settings menu or using the quick settings dropdown; no rooting of a device is needed or even using additional applications.
Ajnsztajnnn said:
I often use a WiFi tethering and I had no problem with that functionality. You can enable the tethering in the settings menu or using the quick settings dropdown; no rooting of a device is needed or even using additional applications.
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Thanks for responding! Do you have WiFi tethering added on your service plan? This is the reason for needing root.
If you have a plan that doesn't allow tethering (like Straight Talk), it will be blocked. No workaround in sight.