As I understand it, we have to use a 3rd party WiFi tether application to get tethering for free.
With the release of Froyo, Google announced that it would have WiFi hotspot capabilities built in. How is it that Verizon can charge us for something the OS has built in? What would have to happen to be able to use the built in WiFi hotspot application for free? (e.g. carrier unlock, rooted 2.2 official etc)
I'm also wondering if there is any real advantage to using the built in WiFi hotspot feature. With the 3rd party apps, I tend to get kicked off once in a while from other apps trying to perform background operations. (see the 'What keeps killing tethering or turning wifi/GPS on during tether?' section at http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/wiki/FAQ ). I'm also wondering if it's any faster.
dvation191 said:
As I understand it, we have to use a 3rd party WiFi tether application to get tethering for free.
With the release of Froyo, Google announced that it would have WiFi hotspot capabilities built in. How is it that Verizon can charge us for something the OS has built in? What would have to happen to be able to use the built in WiFi hotspot application for free? (e.g. carrier unlock, rooted 2.2 official etc)
I'm also wondering if there is any real advantage to using the built in WiFi hotspot feature. With the 3rd party apps, I tend to get kicked off once in a while from other apps trying to perform background operations. (see the 'What keeps killing tethering or turning wifi/GPS on during tether?' section at http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/wiki/FAQ ). I'm also wondering if it's any faster.
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Thats a good question you should ask google/verizon about, verizon pay way cancels out google tether/portable hotspot in froyo, that option not even there inside of wireless & networks section.
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Now I'm sad to get rid of Wireless Tether for Root Users. It got me though so many months of unauthorized tethering, but it doesn't have a toggle in Extended Controls.
Edit: Is there any way to make it remember my SSID and security? Every time I turn it on it resets to null and open.
Which built-in hotspot?
Are you referring to the built-in hotspot in CM6 or the official hotspot provided by Sprint? I just used started using the official hotspot today because so far wireless tether for rooted users app is not working in 2.2
I must say it feels comfy knowing now if my internet goes out I can just call up Sprint. Plus I think it opens up more COM ports over 3G.
Just got and rooted the Evo. Currently trying out Fresh Evo with the Netarchy kernel. I achieved a 1.2Ghz overclock and the higher refresh rate did wonders for the performance!
Now unfortunately the 1 real feature I got the Evo for doesn't work on these stock-ish roms. I am on the go these days and have a laptop, a desktop, and a phone I'd like to connect to the mobile hotspot feature. I know "tether" apps exist such as PDANet but I'd rather use the built in hot-spot feature to connect multiple devices.
Does any hack, rom or kernel exist to unlock this feature built into Froyo 2.2?
P.S I did use the search button just nothing recent or relevant.
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1.) Put bcm4329.ko in /sdcard/android.tether/ (I'm on rooted vanilla)
2.) Download the newest version of Wireless Tether at http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list
The newest version supports WPA2-PSK whereas the one on the android market only supports WEP. Pre8 also seems to have better support for the Evo on 2.2
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1.) Install Cyanogen 6, which is based on the original AOSP Google code. Froyo 2.2 by Google original code included the hotspot feature and it was modified in the Sprint release. The built in hot spotting feature of 2.2 will work without a tethering application in Cyanogen 6.
Yes the hotspot works on stock Rom. What you are looking for is wireless tether in the market. You know the market has a search feature right? Don't use hotspot it cost money. 30 bucks a month.. you want to pay that? Figured not.
The so called hack is just being root so you can install the wireless tether since with security on Sprint won't let you use the "free hotspot app" since they charge. That's it.
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SysFailure0x5a said:
Just got and rooted the Evo. Currently trying out Fresh Evo with the Netarchy kernel. I achieved a 1.2Ghz overclock and the higher refresh rate did wonders for the performance!
Now unfortunately the 1 real feature I got the Evo for doesn't work on these stock-ish roms. I am on the go these days and have a laptop, a desktop, and a phone I'd like to connect to the mobile hotspot feature. I know "tether" apps exist such as PDANet but I'd rather use the built in hot-spot feature to connect multiple devices.
Does any hack, rom or kernel exist to unlock this feature built into Froyo 2.2?
P.S I did use the search button just nothing recent or relevant.
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I'm running fresh as well and just to make sure I wasn't crazy, I'm posting this from the wifi tethering that he included with the rom. It seems to work just fine.
Yeah that's the one from market.. free to use. Use sprints WiFi and you have to pay $30 a month..
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Yes the hotspot works on stock Rom. What you are looking for is wireless tether in the market. You know the market has a search feature right? Don't use hotspot it cost money. 30 bucks a month.. you want to pay that? Figured not.
The so called hack is just being root so you can install the wireless tether since with security on Sprint won't let you use the "free hotspot app" since they charge. That's it.
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Well I know how to use the search function, but apparently you don't know how to read.
"I know "tether" apps exist such as PDANet but I'd rather use the built in hot-spot feature to connect multiple devices."
I also know it costs money through Sprint that's why I'm here asking if a hack or rom exists that enables it. Was I really that vague?
PDANet only works to connect 1 device at a time. Not going to work as its a USB tether. I was hoping to just use the 2.2 Froyo settings to enable tethering but I guess wireless tether isnt that big of a deal to use.
Thanks.
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Well I know how to use the search function, but apparently you don't know how to read.
"I know "tether" apps exist such as PDANet but I'd rather use the built in hot-spot feature to connect multiple devices."
I also know it costs money through Sprint that's why I'm here asking if a hack or rom exists that enables it. Was I really that vague?
PDANet only works to connect 1 device at a time. Not going to work as its a USB tether. I was hoping to just use the 2.2 Froyo settings to enable tethering but I guess wireless tether isnt that big of a deal to use.
Thanks.
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Is the sprint wireless hotspot feature different than wireless tethering? Because I don't think it is. Both turn your phone into a WAP.
edit: I just connected 2 laptops and my daughter's ipod to my wireless tethering, so I'm not sure why that wont do what you're looking for.
No what you have not done is any searching at all.
I am not trying to be an ass but he told you what to do and you fell back on your lack of any researching at all and said something silly.
You did not search for tether or wireless tether, had you, you would have found wireless tether for root users, and if you would have searched here you would have found two things, wireless tether and usb tether.
I would suggest trying the market search again and not stopping with basic apps like pda net and looking at the most obvious search results.
If you search for hotspot you will get crap... if you search for what you are trying to do which is wireless tether, you will quickly find the app you need
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Open Browser
Go to this link: http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list
Get the newest one
Open Wireless Tether
Allow SuperUser access
Enjoy
To add my two cents to this post....I'm using fresh rom as well and it comes with wireless tether PREINSTALLED! To clarify things for you. The wireless tether app does the SAME thing that sprint hotspot does including connecting more than one device at a time. The only difference its that its free. If for some reason your fresh rom doesn't have the app. Do a search for it on the market or use the link posted on the post before mine. Use wireless tether for root users vers 2.0.5 pre 7 or pre 8. Those two work best for the evo on fresh.
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No what you have not done is any searching at all.
I am not trying to be an ass but he told you what to do and you fell back on your lack of any researching at all and said something silly.
You did not search for tether or wireless tether, had you, you would have found wireless tether for root users, and if you would have searched here you would have found two things, wireless tether and usb tether.
I would suggest trying the market search again and not stopping with basic apps like pda net and looking at the most obvious search results.
If you search for hotspot you will get crap... if you search for what you are trying to do which is wireless tether, you will quickly find the app you need
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And again, no one is listening. I know what Wireless Tether is. That's why I was knocking on all of you for not reading my post. I know what android market is. I'm not that retarded. I wanted to know if any ROMS can use the AOSP 2.2 built in feature? If not I wanted to know if a hack existed to enable it.
I cant enable WEP/WPA with wireless tether. Apparently people in this Airport are happy to use my phone since its open access.
I found the option to enable encryption but it only allowed WEP which is lame. I downloaded a new version off the developers website and it allows WPA2. I'll just use this app if no ROMS have the built in feature working.
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And again, no one is listening. I know what Wireless Tether is. Thats why I was knocking on all of you for not reading my post. I know what android market is. I'm not that retarded.
I cant enable WEP/WPA with wireless tether. Apparently people in this Airport are happy to use my phone since its open access.
In addition I said the built in feature to Froyo 2.2 not the stuff in Android market. I wanted to know if a ROM has a working STOCK HOTSPOT feature working so I dont have to use a tether app. The android operating system has this built in, I'd like ot use that one... Does Cyanogen have this feature working or am I SOL and have to use an unsecured Wireless Tether?
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What? Wireless tether supports WPA encryption... meaning that they need a password in order to access your wifi spot... look on settings.
fenixjn said:
What? Wireless tether supports WPA encryption... meaning that they need a password in order to access your wifi spot... look on settings.
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I just edited my last post. The version I had only supported WEP which doesnt fly with me... I downloaded the developers version and it supports WPA2.
I'd still like to know if any of the AOSP builds support the built in froyo 2.2 feature for hotspotting.
I believe Wifi Tether is Wireless Adhoc connection (may not work on some devices) and Sprint Hot Spot is a WiFi connection (access point)
I have not seen a hack for the Sprint Hot Spot. It sounds like it looks for your Phone mac to verify you are paying them before it allows you to use it.
As far as I know, roms don't have this 'hack' for the built in mobile hotspot feature. I'm a Hero user, so I'm not familiar with Evo roms. As stated before, just use Wireless Tether. In my opinion, it has everything someone could want.
Harfainx said:
Open Browser
Go to this link: http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list
Get the newest one
Open Wireless Tether
Allow SuperUser access
Enjoy
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if the newest one doesnt work tre pre7 that one works for me pre8 didnt
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if the newest one doesnt work tre pre7 that one works for me pre8 didnt
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I already did that =p.... Read my post above lol.
I'm closing this thread. Everyone who helped thanks and have a nice weekend!
The only custom ROM that you can install that uses the Froyo built-in hotspot feature is Cyanogenmod 6. It works great.
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The only custom ROM that you can install that uses the Froyo built-in hotspot feature is Cyanogenmod 6. It works great.
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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS IS WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT!! Schwweeet! So if I install Cyanogen 6 I can just use the built in code developed by Google to enable hotspotting? Not a tether app?
I knew it!!!!
Can you please confirm this works as I expect? I assume it works because it is built off of AOSP which is not modified by Sprint or other carriers, which means the built in code from Google just works right?
You lose 4g and hdmi with cyanogen 6. But the built in froyo hot spot works.
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Sorry for the dumb question, I searched, but cant find it... Where do I download bcm4329.ko?
I've been told that the built-in wireless tethering on the Android phones is part of the kernel, and as such, can not be added back in easily (if at all). I know there are 3rd party apps for tethering (I've used "Wireless Tether 2.0.5"). I read somewhere that the Froyo build for the Galaxy S phones is supposed to ship with the portable hotspot software. Does anyone know if it's there, but "hidden", or if it is stripped out like previous builds?
So all of our phones with Wifi hotspot features create an ADHOC connection which Honeycomb does not support. Same goes with Bluetooth, no DUN. Google what the hell? Ya ya,carriers this and carriers that but what about people paying for hotspot features on the phone. I have customers that I need to setup to pair with the TF but it seems nothing will work without rooting and that can be phone specific. So the TF is great as long as you are close to a WIFI connection is supports?
If I'm missing something someone please fill me in.
~DC
think it depends on phone my desire HD works fine
Welcome to Android.
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think it depends on phone my desire HD works fine
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Are you rooted?
Are you simply pairing or using another app on your phone?
Can you run through your connection steps?
Thanks,
~DC
Synman said:
Welcome to Android.
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But why would they do this knowing what the phones support?
~DC
I am using the hotspot feature on my Evo, and I've been tethering to it at work since the day I got my Transformer. I'm not doing anything special, just turning on the hotspot and letting the TF connect. Now, my Evo is rooted with a ROM that "unlocks" the hotspot functionality so I'm not paying extra, and I'm not using the Wireless Tether app, but it's the same concept.
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I am using the hotspot feature on my Evo, and I've been tethering to it at work since the day I got my Transformer. I'm not doing anything special, just turning on the hotspot and letting the TF connect. Now, my Evo is rooted with a ROM that "unlocks" the hotspot functionality so I'm not paying extra, and I'm not using the Wireless Tether app, but it's the same concept.
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The hotspot feature on your ROM is supporting a true wifi connection and not peer to peer adhoc. I can't always root customers phones.
~DC
I may be misunderstanding how it works, but this isn't a wireless tether baked into the ROM, it's the built-in Sprint hotspot feature that I'm using, just unlocked so I don't have to pay extra. If someone was paying for the hotspot feature on Sprint, they wouldn't need root, but maybe this is only the case with Sprint's implementation.
i was able to do both wifi and bluetooth tethering. took me a while to figure out, (since i've never done it before, less due to the difficulty of doing it)
assuming the phone supports Bluetooth tethering, it should always work.
I have a DroidX and I can tether using the built in stock Hotspot feature or with Bluetooth. However, I can't tether using an ad hoc connection because I get an error stating that the device doesn't support ad hoc connections...
So, it is definitely device specific and it will be something the carriers remove as many report being able to do so with root (my device is rooted and I can't connect via ad hoc - although, I haven't d/l or tried out the pdaNet app).
I will also add that the bluetooth tethering has worked MUCH better than the wifi - easier/faster to connect, runs pretty fast, and my phone doesn't overheat as much....
Works fine with my evo. The Evo has proper infrastructure wifi hotspot.
Maybe the users need to update their phones?
I went into a store to try a tf and there was no internet so I turned on my WiFi hotspot on my sgsII and it worked perfectly fine, not sure if that's the same as you're asking but that works.
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Works fine with my evo. The Evo has proper infrastructure wifi hotspot.
Maybe the users need to update their phones?
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Are you rooted?
~DC
Any HTC thunderbolt users reading this that have tried hotspot?
~DC
a lot of clarification
Hi all,
I need your help, understanding ... well everything about wifi/TF/WM6.5/adhoc and whatever the other connection is?
I don't think of myself as a noob, but to be honest I'm lost with the wifi on the TF. So here it goes: I have TF and HD2. Under WM6.5 I can't get the TF to see the shared internet through the "wifi router" application on the phone. But then I run a custom Desire HD ROM and this one (can't remember the application) shares and gives access to the TF?!?!
First off, which is which? Which is adhoc and which is infrastructure? And what is the difference (sorry i did look on the internet, but that got me confused even more because I could not see any difference). Are you saying that a standard (not rooted Android) will have the same problem? I was thinking of switching to an android phone so that I can get the easy sharing option, but if I have to root a brand new phone????
Any help will be appreciated,
rio
Easy way to tether off a rooted phone.
Install one of the older versions of wireless tether that supports bluetooth.
Turn on the bluetooth DUN on wireless tether.
Hit ok when it asks to turn on Bluetooth and make discoverable.
On the transformer go to settings-wireless-bluetooth
Scan for your device and pair.
Once paired you should see a little wrench next to your device, click on it
Under Profiles, it should show tethering with a checkbox. Click this and in a few seconds Wireless tether should buzz its connected and off you go.
I've been able to tether my transformer like this since out of the box.
Edit - BTW I've tried this with PDAnet and other non rooted tehtering programs, and I couldn't get it to work with those options. Just FYI
the difference between ad-hoc and infrastructure is the way devices communicate.
infrastructure is kinda like the way we send messages via the post office. we send it to a central place, then it figures out how to deliver the message. this is how true routers operate
ad-hoc is peer-to-peer. imagine passing notes back in elementary school.
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some phones comes with a tethering app without having to root, but this typically requires you to pay extra fee to your carrier ($30 for sprint)
if you don't want to pay that, then you have to root your phone to either get a rom that already supports infrastructure mode, or download an app that does. [ ie Wifi Tether ]
people googling "honeycomb dun" would be incredibly misinformed by this thread.
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people googling "honeycomb dun" would be incredibly misinformed by this thread.
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You are right. I put Honeycomb 3.1 in the title but forgot to mention in the OP if anyone heard that 3.1 would have support for DUN or Ad Hoc.
Sorry for any confusion I might have caused
~DC
Edit: I posted misinformation.
Has anyone been able to get WiFi Tether to work without rooting their device? Picked up a Blackberry Priv for work and it's a great device. Considering getting one for personal use on Verizon.
I often use a WiFi tethering and I had no problem with that functionality. You can enable the tethering in the settings menu or using the quick settings dropdown; no rooting of a device is needed or even using additional applications.
Ajnsztajnnn said:
I often use a WiFi tethering and I had no problem with that functionality. You can enable the tethering in the settings menu or using the quick settings dropdown; no rooting of a device is needed or even using additional applications.
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Thanks for responding! Do you have WiFi tethering added on your service plan? This is the reason for needing root.
If you have a plan that doesn't allow tethering (like Straight Talk), it will be blocked. No workaround in sight.