Epic 4G & Wireless Tether - Epic 4G General

I've been told that the built-in wireless tethering on the Android phones is part of the kernel, and as such, can not be added back in easily (if at all). I know there are 3rd party apps for tethering (I've used "Wireless Tether 2.0.5"). I read somewhere that the Froyo build for the Galaxy S phones is supposed to ship with the portable hotspot software. Does anyone know if it's there, but "hidden", or if it is stripped out like previous builds?

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Just used the built-in Froyo hotspot for the first time.

Now I'm sad to get rid of Wireless Tether for Root Users. It got me though so many months of unauthorized tethering, but it doesn't have a toggle in Extended Controls.
Edit: Is there any way to make it remember my SSID and security? Every time I turn it on it resets to null and open.
Which built-in hotspot?
Are you referring to the built-in hotspot in CM6 or the official hotspot provided by Sprint? I just used started using the official hotspot today because so far wireless tether for rooted users app is not working in 2.2
I must say it feels comfy knowing now if my internet goes out I can just call up Sprint. Plus I think it opens up more COM ports over 3G.

[Q] WiFi Tether in 2.2

As I understand it, we have to use a 3rd party WiFi tether application to get tethering for free.
With the release of Froyo, Google announced that it would have WiFi hotspot capabilities built in. How is it that Verizon can charge us for something the OS has built in? What would have to happen to be able to use the built in WiFi hotspot application for free? (e.g. carrier unlock, rooted 2.2 official etc)
I'm also wondering if there is any real advantage to using the built in WiFi hotspot feature. With the 3rd party apps, I tend to get kicked off once in a while from other apps trying to perform background operations. (see the 'What keeps killing tethering or turning wifi/GPS on during tether?' section at http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/wiki/FAQ ). I'm also wondering if it's any faster.
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As I understand it, we have to use a 3rd party WiFi tether application to get tethering for free.
With the release of Froyo, Google announced that it would have WiFi hotspot capabilities built in. How is it that Verizon can charge us for something the OS has built in? What would have to happen to be able to use the built in WiFi hotspot application for free? (e.g. carrier unlock, rooted 2.2 official etc)
I'm also wondering if there is any real advantage to using the built in WiFi hotspot feature. With the 3rd party apps, I tend to get kicked off once in a while from other apps trying to perform background operations. (see the 'What keeps killing tethering or turning wifi/GPS on during tether?' section at http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/wiki/FAQ ). I'm also wondering if it's any faster.
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Thats a good question you should ask google/verizon about, verizon pay way cancels out google tether/portable hotspot in froyo, that option not even there inside of wireless & networks section.

Tethering

I have a G2 with Tmobile and use a lot of data on it. A tab would be much better and I'd like to pick up the wifi version of the Xoom. Now seeing as Verizon has tiered pricing for their mobile broadband/tablet data plans I'd be much better off tethering my G2 to the Xoom, but which methods would work? I tried using Barnacle as an experiment but with a bit of reading found out that devices that aren't ad-hoc wouldn't connect (my PSP and CR-48 notebook wouldn't work, and reading the wiki the PS3 doesn't either) which leaves USB tethering. I know you have to install additional software with PDAnet tethering, so would USB tethering be possible android to android?
The Wireless Tether app works fine between my rooted Droid X and my CR-48, so I imagine it would work with a Xoom as well.
It should work with Wireless Tether. I'm hoping for that, if not, bluetooth tethering should work. And if that doesn't work, I'll have to use Connectify on my laptop to create a wifi hotspot of my tethered data connection from my little Eris! Hopefully, that won't be the case though, it'd be burden when not at home.
Yea.. simply just download the Wifi-Tether app. It works with everything, if you're rooted of course.
Or just use 2.2's built in tethering ability. Works just as good ~.~
Thanks, for some reason I forgot about the built in tether/hotspot, I think because when I bought my G2 the rep tried to sell me tethering for $15 a month or something. The wifi tether and barnacle tether apps don't work but the built in one does.

Wifi Xoom and BT Tether

I've found several threads on the subject of Tethering a Xoom via BT and Wifi but I'm not having much luck and there's a lot of confusion about providers/Xoom versions/phones, etc. so rather than tag on to a thread I hope it's ok to start a new one.
I have the following:
Wifi Xoom (NOT the Verizon version, the one that just came out on March 27th here in the US)
HTC Hero GSM - completely unlocked (purchased in Europe). Running Android 2.1 standard update from HTC. I'm using the AT&T data plan but device is not an AT&T device at all.
I would like to see if I can Tether the Xoom to the phone and use the data connection I have on it. I understand that the Xoom's chipset doesn't allow for Ad-hoc networks. I've tried to do a Wifi Tether and although that works from my Laptop to my Phone the Xoom doesn't see the ad-hoc network. I don't believe there is any way for me to make the Wifi Tether work in Infrastructure mode so I don't think there is an option there (unless the Xoom can be modified somehow to see Ad-hoc).
So now I'm trying to use Bluetooth Tethering. I've tried both PdaNet and Wifi Tether (v2.0.7 and phone rooted via SuperOneClick). Both seem to start up fine and are running. I then pair the two devices but as many others have reported, I don't see any Tethering options on the Xoom so I'm stuck.
I've tried different orders of things... run Wifi Tether, pair, vs. pair then Wifi Tether, work with Airplane mode on vs. off, Wifi on vs. off, etc. but I never see that Tether option show up.
Anyone have this working with an HTC Hero GSM by any chance? Note that this is the Wifi-Only Xoom which seems to have different features than the Verizon 3G Xoom. Could it be that the Hero itself doesn't support this profile? Or can the Xoom be modified to force it to think the device is tetherable.
I'm not sure if rooting the Xoom would help any or maybe flashing a custom ROM like CM7 on the Hero would help any. I'd prefer not to have to do this but if someone has this working with my exact configuration I'd give it a try.
Any help would be appreciated.
From what i know, most tethering tech /apps are establishing a ad-hoc network' which the xoom isnt capable of...
I too have the Xoom wifi only version with a HTC rooted CDMA Hero.
As everyone knows now the Ad hoc will not tether with the Xoom infrastructure as of the latest.
I too get full bluetooth tethering signal from Wireless Tether, but like you the Xoom will "pair but not connect". As you, I am confused as to whether it is the Hero or the Xoom Wifi which will not connect to the bluetooth tether.
I suspect it is the Xoom Wifi, but would also like a definitive answer and better yet a viable solution.
I have no issue tethering my Xoom (Wifi model) with my Verizon Motorola Droid (1 Gen) over Bluetooth.
My Droid is full rooted with custom Gingerbread ROM (2.3.3) and Overclocked Kernel from ChevyNo1. His kernels are everything enable such as tethering and VPN. This might be the difference for some.
The one annoying thing is that everytime I enable the hotspot on my Droid, I have to go into the Xoom settings and enable tethering on the connection to my Droid. This also has to be done if either device goes not a range and brought back. I am trying to find a widget or a Tasker script to auto enable this.
Be sure to already start the wifi tether program on your phone (selecting the blutooth option on it) then bring up the blutooth settings menu on your xoom, just press and hold the little wrench you see to the right of your phone icon. it should bring up the tether option...just press that and you should see it conect via blutooth.
Just be sure to have the wifi tether app on your phone already on and set for blutooth. This works for me everytime (running the atrix) and shoujkd also work for your phone too.
Still no luck on my side with the Tethering on while I do the pairing and/or when I touch the wrench icon.
I'd like to understand more about how the Bluetooth profile is detected. Does my phone have to publish out a certain profile? Or does the Xoom have a list of device types that it knows are tetherable? I've read on another forum that it seemed like Motorola devices like the Droid worked whereas HTCs didn't seem to. I'm wondering if the Xoom detects the type of phone it's connecting to and decides whether it's tetherable or not... Anyone know? If this is the case maybe there's some file that can be tweaked on the Xoom to include additional devices or change the phone to broadcast out a different device name, etc. Maybe I should try changing my device name to 'Droid' or something.
Just guessing at this point....
I had the same issue with my droid, bluetooth tether is a pretty good alternative. I made a video of it, works with most phones with that create the Ad-Hoc. Check out video below to see the easy steps involved. Root on phone required.
Thanks for posting the video. This is exactly what I tried but does not work with my HTC Hero and my Wifi Xoom. I'm going to see if I rename my Bluetooth device name to 'Droid' to see if that makes any difference. I doubt it....
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Thanks for posting the video. This is exactly what I tried but does not work with my HTC Hero and my Wifi Xoom. I'm going to see if I rename my Bluetooth device name to 'Droid' to see if that makes any difference. I doubt it....
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I ran into a little bug, and it wouldn't recognize my droid. I had to unpair and turn on the bluetooth tether app. Then pair. The xoom then recognized the bluetooth tether. Hopefully this works, I apologize if it doesn't.
My wifi Xoom works perfectly paired with a CM7 Nexus One.
App: wireless tether
pd: key is the wrench
I tried renaming the bluetooth device name to 'Droid' but that didn't make a difference. I'm sure I'm following the same steps as in the video. Somehow the Xoom doesn't see the Hero as a Tetherable device...
Maybe there are some differences in Bluetooth chipsets?
Wifi tethering works with the Desire Z or the G2
I assume the network it creates is not an ad-hoc otherwise the xoom wouldn't have recognized it?
It's either not ad-hoc or you're using Bluetooth. You'd have to explicitly choose Bluetooth tethering in the Wireless Tether app so I assume you're using Wifi.
From what I understand some phones (the ones that are meant to be used as wifi hotspots) do broadcast in infrastructure mode rather than ad-hoc so I assume that's why it works for you.
Also of note is that Honeycomb only supports PAN tethering, and not DUN tethering.
Your phone also has to have "bluetooth tethering" turned on (however you do it, I don't have an android phone) so that the Xoom can discover the PAN bluetooth service.
Interesting. Something to read up more on. I'm using Wireless Tether to do the Bluetooth tethering but maybe I need something additional switched on. At least it's another direction to look at....
Seems like someone figured out how to get the Xoom to listen to Ad-hoc networks but that needs the Xoom rooted so I'll also research that. I prefer Bluetooth tethering since it uses less juice on the phone....
It does seem that "Wireless Tether" which is what I'm using on my HTC Hero, is running in PAN mode. If I look at the app's directory it has a pand executable, etc. and when I'm running the tether it is running pand in the process list.
Still, if I pair, even while it's running pand the Xoom still doesn't recognize it as tetherable. Grrr.... Wish I had another bluetooth client I could try to connect to see if it's the phone or the Xoom but I don't have anything else.
I'm wondering if it's because I have the Android 2.1 update for my Hero. Wireless Tether seems to support the 1.5 version of the Hero but doesn't mention 2.1. Maybe there is an incompatibility there...
Anyway, will continue to try to figure it out.
Rosso, your not on your own, I am still trying to figure this out on my hero running froydvillian. I have done the wifi ad hoc mod and thats working for me but BT tethering woudl be better, I will let you know If i ever find a solution.
I did see someone else loaded CM7 for the hero and then BT tether worked, but CM7 seems to have been pulled for the hero at the moment due to stability issues.
I have a droid eris (verizon's cdma hero) and I have the same exact problems but I'm on cm7and using wireless tether. I can get the to devices and connect via tethering but 5 seconds after that my phone reboots.
Just picked up a wifi-Xoom for my wife over the weekend. Tried to get it connected to my phone (HD2) as a wifi hotspot and was having problems (the ad-hoc problem). The xoom wouldn't even see the hotspot. I am running AmeriCanDroid 0413 build and it has wifi tether v. 3.0-pre11. So I switched back to winmo and still nothing, then I tried going to Darkstone SuperRam 1.5 (my fallback build). It has an older version of wifi tether, I think 2.06 or something like that and got the xoom to connect. I haven't had a lot of time to fool around with it, but it was able to get a network connection. Maybe you could try an older version of the wifi tether? I haven't experimented with the BT tethering yet. I don't want to root the xoom yet, maybe when my wife is tired of it.
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Just checked the wifi-tether website and there is a new version of wifi tether and it supports softap which may help the xoom recognize the wifi hotspot.
Hi, I have just managed to get my hero bluetooth tethered to my htc hero.
The process I followed was basically what everyone has said:-
download wireless tether i am using 2.0.7
1. start bluetooth on phone and xoom (make discoverable)
2. Do not pair the devices yet
3. start up wireless tether, select bluetooth and tap to start the actual service
4. go back to bluetooth on your xoom and pair the devices
I then got an icon I had not had before and when I tapped the wrench I got the option to tether.
As for wifi tether your phone needs to put out infrastructure wifi for the xoom to see it, if its ad-hoc, you'll need to do the wifi mod so that he xoom sees adhoc
although as stated the new version of 'wifi tether' (which just seems to be the new name for the 'wireless tether' app) may fix that? but doesn't seem to support bluetooth as the 2.07 version does

wireless tethering.

hello, have tried a couple of roms, to use my htc hero, as a wireless hotspot, and so far have only had succeded to tether my hero, to my laptop, but it wont tether to anything else, like for instance, my samsung galaxy s2, the hero, wont recognise it. I have been using the free tether app, for root on the market, and it wont tether my hero, to my samsung galaxys2, what apps, are you guys using, to tether, the hero. Also, i thought all 2.3.2 gingerbread, and upwards roms, come with tethering hotspots, already, but the ones av tried, havent got tethering wify hotspots, any input please.
The 2.3 ones need the Las Venturas kernel as Wi-Fi tethering doesn't work with the .29 one I think.

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