Goto system/usr/keylayout and then click on generic.kl and use text editor...
change 158 to APP_SWITCH
change 254 to BACK.
save and exit. reboot.
still trying to figure out how to turn off capacitive backlight. i am guessing build.prop?
I guess root is required right?
First thing i will do after root
..thanks
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still trying to figure out how to turn off capacitive backlight. i am guessing build.prop?
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It's in settings on my S6 Edge... weird that it's not default.
And oddly enough, I'm kinda used to Samsung's config now. Right handed so it's much easier to press the right button, and I certainly use Back more often.
Left handed here. And s6 doesn't have the option unless I missed it. Couldn't find in build.prop. looked a lot of places. Couldn't find binning either.
There's an app in the playstore (for free) that let's you turn off the lights on your capacitive buttons, and no root needed.
Here:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.notquiteinsane.galaxybuttonlights&hl=en
Itaintrite said:
It's in settings on my S6 Edge... weird that it's not default.
And oddly enough, I'm kinda used to Samsung's config now. Right handed so it's much easier to press the right button, and I certainly use Back more often.
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Yeah never really understood this. 90% of people are right handed and the back button is the most used button, so it only makes sense to have it at easy reach.
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Power button to wake up then slide to unlock, this is horrible, not intuitive and actually very difficult for me to do in my good hand (left, m righty) and near impossible to do in right hand. Man i miss MT3G duoble click menu, anyone know if I can set A double trackball click? (putting it to sleep sucks too, hope the "proximity sensor" works)
Second complaint (existed with MT3g before cyan) home screen no landscape
Third (lol) I miss the app drawer
Fourth (man I know) can we get a full screen (home screen) widget that is phone dialer a la iphone so I can quick swipe to it since there is no phone button.
I look the phone and performance but honestly at this point I will probably get drawed until so of these can get fixed, I am going to stick it out and see if I can get used to it, but its been 9 hours now and not fond the "ergo"
Let me know if you have ideas, solutions or are willing to make an app hehehhe
Hahaha, I think I like every function you mentioned. To each his own I suppose...
My only problem (if it can really be called a problem) is with the push the top power button to wake the phone. It feels awkward to me. I wonder if the unlock function can be remapped to the trackball?
Yeah to each his own, the Iphone button to wake (which would be similar to trackball) can easily be done with the index/thumb hold the power button requires a cradling and sadly its difficult to contort my hand that way.
The app drawer, i dont know, i was much faster to scroll in before and the new 3d thing has a bounce back (ie it locks to 4x4 icons never halfway at top) throws off the quick flick and click for me at least.
I would love the left most home screen to just be the dialer screen flicking with thumb across screen is easier then finding icon and clicking for me at least
MMMV lol but i think others may like these things too
david, me too, actually that's my only "major" issue the rest were nits i had to pick.
lol also, the new app thing is jolting to the user experience, the rest of the home is swipe, swipe down for notifications, swipe sideways for home screens then click for apps. its weird, maybe i was only one that dragged the old draw up and down instead of clicking the tab....
The real problem with the top button is its lack of feedback. It doesn't "click". Still works though
1. I gotta admit... I don't like where the power button is. I usually hold the phone with my left hand while I use my right to swipe or press. The power button is right where I would normally hold on to the top of the phone. Its taking a conscience effort to change the way I hold it, so eventually it won't be a big deal.
2. I also agree about the homescreen. I use handcent, and if I am on the home screen when I recieve a popup, I can't turn the phone to landscape to use the bigger keyboard to post a quick reply. That is frustrating to me.
3. The button works fine for me. I kinda like it.
4. I don't care either way for a widget that lets you dial. I mean, hitting the phone button seems to work pretty well for me ( I haven't used an Iphone to know what you mean by this).
Overall, the speed is more then enough to make up for any shortcomings. The power button issue is one that has actually really bothered me. The oversaturation of colors, especially on apps like The Weather Channel has slightly bothered me. Other then that, I really like the dialer on the phone. As much as I liked wysie's contacts, the new dialer is freakin great. But I can't really complain. Its been a nice phone to have so far. Really nice. I just wish the Polar live wallpaper actually worked.
You will always be able to nitpick, but right now I'm sort of reveling in the fact that I now own the best phone the world. I didn't like the iPhone this much when I got it around launch.
maybe a 1x2 icon for dialer like the same icon from the dial pad the big green phone as a widget? lol
zendick said:
Power button to wake up then slide to unlock, this is horrible, not intuitive and actually very difficult for me to do in my good hand (left, m righty) and near impossible to do in right hand. Man i miss MT3G duoble click menu, anyone know if I can set A double trackball click? (putting it to sleep sucks too, hope the "proximity sensor" works)
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A lock screen is a requirement for me, so the only difference here is that I find the position of the "wake up" button on top a little awkward for 1-handed use.
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Second complaint (existed with MT3g before cyan) home screen no landscape
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Couldn't agree more - never did get why the home app disobeys this setting when most others do it. I'm sure Cyan will rescue us!
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Third (lol) I miss the app drawer
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Yeah, this is a BIG beef for me. I find the new app menu klunky as all get out. The label text on several rows of my menu are overlapping/corrupt, and I find it realyl tricky to scroll to the end of the menu quickly due to the way it "snaps" onto rows. Again, I hope Cyan'd firmware will revert this to sanity.
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Fourth (man I know) can we get a full screen (home screen) widget that is phone dialer a la iphone so I can quick swipe to it since there is no phone button.
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I don't use widgets, but I for one don't miss the phone buttons. Why should the phone app get preferential treatment with it's own hardkeys. *
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* Yes, yes, I know the smarta$$ answer is "because it's a phone".
well i did a little messing around with remapping keys and wasn't able to cut my phone off, but i did make my power button into a trackball pressed button lmao.
right now, from the way it is looking, there is not an incredibly easy to make the trackball pressed (DPAD_CENTER) wake the phone up without sacrificing a fair amount of usability I will try and play with it some more later.
The files I was changing were both in /system/usr/keylayout/
mahimahi-keypad.kl and
qwerty.kl
I had to make changes to each of the 2 for it to stick. Maybe someone can take this info and run with it. I also had to reboot after pushing the files for it to take place.
The only thing that really bothers me is that one has to remove the battery to remove the SD card.
That is unlike all the other Android phones I know of. (T-mobile anyway.)
dont flame me but the top button to wake up and the slide to unlock puts me back to feeling like an iphone, and i had one for so long this feels comfortable to me
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dont flame me but the top button to wake up and the slide to unlock puts me back to feeling like an iphone, and i had one for so long this feels comfortable to me
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Never had an iphone, but I rather like the setup. Assures me that I'm not wasting battery life with it on in my pocket. If the touchscreen woke up on press, sure it might not unlock but it'll still be lighting up all the time.
On earlier hardware, other than the END button (which I suppose became the sleep/wake button), you could press menu (which would take you to the lock-combination screen, or the home screen if you didn't have a lock-combo) and the back button would also serve to wake the phone, you still had to use the END button to sleep.
Has any of you tested if menu or back will wake the phone?
they are touch sensitive on the nexus, so they are definitely a no-go
zendick said:
Power button to wake up then slide to unlock, this is horrible, not intuitive and actually very difficult for me to do in my good hand (left, m righty) and near impossible to do in right hand. Man i miss MT3G duoble click menu, anyone know if I can set A double trackball click? (putting it to sleep sucks too, hope the "proximity sensor" works)
Second complaint (existed with MT3g before cyan) home screen no landscape
Third (lol) I miss the app drawer
Fourth (man I know) can we get a full screen (home screen) widget that is phone dialer a la iphone so I can quick swipe to it since there is no phone button.
I look the phone and performance but honestly at this point I will probably get drawed until so of these can get fixed, I am going to stick it out and see if I can get used to it, but its been 9 hours now and not fond the "ergo"
Let me know if you have ideas, solutions or are willing to make an app hehehhe
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If you don't like the phone then why did you buy it?
jubeh said:
On earlier hardware, other than the END button (which I suppose became the sleep/wake button), you could press menu (which would take you to the lock-combination screen, or the home screen if you didn't have a lock-combo) and the back button would also serve to wake the phone, you still had to use the END button to sleep.
Has any of you tested if menu or back will wake the phone?
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eabinsan said:
they are touch sensitive on the nexus, so they are definitely a no-go
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I can confirm this does not work as well.
zendick said:
Power button to wake up then slide to unlock, this is horrible, not intuitive and actually very difficult for me to do in my good hand (left, m righty) and near impossible to do in right hand. Man i miss MT3G duoble click menu, anyone know if I can set A double trackball click? (putting it to sleep sucks too, hope the "proximity sensor" works)
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I sort of agree that the power button placement is awkward but I like the slide to unlock screen to help avoid pocket dials. It would be nice if there was an option to turn it off for those who are bothered by it.
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Second complaint (existed with MT3g before cyan) home screen no landscape
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zendick said:
Third (lol) I miss the app drawer
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I really prefer the new app drawer. Different tastes I guess.
zendick said:
Fourth (man I know) can we get a full screen (home screen) widget that is phone dialer a la iphone so I can quick swipe to it since there is no phone button.
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That is actually a good idea.
I'm not sure how other Rhodiums are set up...but the Tilt2 has the rather annoying feature of 'full screen' pop up volume indicator always coming up when you press the volume buttons. But in a very select few programs just a sidebar pops up...almost like a mini version. Is there any registry setting to change to make the 'mini' one the default?
This cab works for me....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2718080&postcount=7
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I'm not sure how other Rhodiums are set up...but the Tilt2 has the rather annoying feature of 'full screen' pop up volume indicator always coming up when you press the volume buttons. But in a very select few programs just a sidebar pops up...almost like a mini version. Is there any registry setting to change to make the 'mini' one the default?
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I actually prefer the full screen version, it is easy to use with the finger. Touching to the left or right of the volume indicator will remove the display and go back to your normal screen.
yatrg said:
This cab works for me....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2718080&postcount=7
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Does this make it smaller, or remove it? Reading it over, it seems that the latter is the case.
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Does this make it smaller, or remove it? Reading it over, it seems that the latter is the case.
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It removes it. I like it, the volume buttons are more responsive instead of take a second or 2 to actually change, and the full screen is annoying.
I was bored at work and decided to poke around the registry to see if I could figure this out. I think I'm on to something. When you go to: /HKLM/SOFTWARE/HTC/VolumeOverlay/InhouseEnable2ndUI there are a bunch of folders for apps on the phone. I went into Manila and set it to 2 and then went back to the home screen (I have Sense 2.5 active) and had a little volume bar at the top of the screen when I went to change the volume. I may try to add other apps and see if it works, but I'm lazy, so I might just go play some tower defense instead. Hope this helps get someone else a little more motivated to help. hehe
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I was bored at work and decided to poke around the registry to see if I could figure this out. I think I'm on to something. When you go to: /HKLM/SOFTWARE/HTC/VolumeOverlay/InhouseEnable2ndUI there are a bunch of folders for apps on the phone. I went into Manila and set it to 2 and then went back to the home screen (I have Sense 2.5 active) and had a little volume bar at the top of the screen when I went to change the volume. I may try to add other apps and see if it works, but I'm lazy, so I might just go play some tower defense instead. Hope this helps get someone else a little more motivated to help. hehe
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Setting this value to "1" will give you the slim vertical slider on the left of the screen, but this slider is not operable by touch on the screen, it is only a visual aid to let you know where your volume is at when you press the vol up and down hardware buttons.
No doubt most users are happy using the standard capacitive and home keys to navigate their tablet but there are definitely more ways than one to get around and I thought it would be interesting to share our ideas and preferences that make using this (and other) tablet quick and easy.
I read and edit documents a lot so most of the time I prefer to have the tablet in portrait mode. I find the capacitive keys annoying as they are always get touched unintentionally by myself and especially when handing the tablet to someone else when trying to show them something.
So I decided to disable them by editing the generic.kl file in system/user/keylayout and putting an # before keys 139 & 158 then rebooting.
To the replace those keys I use GMD gesture control with some simple and easy to use gestures.
Pretty difficult to show exactly how well this works but first a screenshot showing the gestures paths and action. Dots are the fingers and lines the path they take.
And a video..... I put this together in a hurry so it looks pretty clunky. Recording video over ADB makes it look pretty slow too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKCZ7LjAFBE
Quick Search and Lux are two other apps that I can highly recommend........ Rotation Lock is just a simple tasker task that uses the Ultimate Rotation app/plugin. Swiping rotation lock simply toggles between auto 0, 90, 180, 270 and swiping again locks in the desired orientation.
marxses said:
No doubt most users are happy using the standard capacitive and home keys to navigate their tablet but there are definitely more ways than one to get around and I thought it would be interesting to share our ideas and preferences that make using this (and other) tablet quick and easy.
I read and edit documents a lot so most of the time I prefer to have the tablet in portrait mode. I find the capacitive keys annoying as they are always get touched unintentionally by myself and especially when handing the tablet to someone else when trying to show them something.
So I decided to disable them by editing the generic.kl file in system/user/keylayout and putting an # before keys 139 & 158 then rebooting.
To the replace those keys I use GMD gesture control with some simple and easy to use gestures.
Pretty difficult to show exactly how well this works but first a screenshot showing the gestures paths and action. Dots are the fingers and lines the path they take.
And a video..... I put this together in a hurry so it looks pretty clunky. Recording video over ADB makes it look pretty slow too.
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Thanks for this! I LOVE GMD - very snappy and hitting the capacitive buttons while reading was driving me nuts.
bdneuman said:
Thanks for this! I LOVE GMD - very snappy and hitting the capacitive buttons while reading was driving me nuts.
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No probs and yeh GMD is definitely handy.
If anyone is having trouble with the way GMD functions with certain apps or in general tweak some of the advanced and touch consumption settings and you should be able to get it working flawlessly.
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No probs and yeh GMD is definitely handy.
If anyone is having trouble with the way GMD functions with certain apps or in general tweak some of the advanced and touch consumption settings and you should be able to get it working flawlessly.
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Good point - I had to do the screen calibration (super easy) in order to get the swipe from borders to work.
I agree though - I am surprised at how responsive this app is. How have I not been using this!?!
OK, I just acquired the Galaxy S-5 (on Verizon), after owning the Nexus-7 tablet for a year or so.
The two soft keys/buttons (i.e. 'go back' and 'show me all running apps') that are on either side of the HARD key stay lit for only a second or two, and then go away.
Is there some way to make them stay lit? (Like on android tablets such as my Nexus-7?)
(also, these two soft keys are in the OPPOSITE positions from where they are on tablets such as my Nexus-7...be nice for a consistency fix for that, too, since they go 'unlit', so you can never remember which is which) :silly:
It occurs to me that the idea for them to go 'unlit' was maybe part of some effort to reduce
battery drain. But, in this case, I for one would prefer to keep them lit ... just have them dim them down, but
please don't extinguish them!
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Ok, I figured it out from there...
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That's normal. Not to mention better than the way that the Nexus works.
Nevertheless you can change it in the Settings menu if you like. Just choose always on
To swap the keys, to make it more like a Nexus (are you sure that you just don't want a Nexus?), use the Xposed framework module to reassign the keys. Or you could edit the keylayout files directly. If you do a search you'll find a number of existing threads detailing how to do so.
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Hmm...why would it be 'better' than Nexus, when you have to memorize/learn where each key is (other than marginal power-conservation)?
I'm sure you meant to tell me just WHERE in settings to find that tweak.
Found that info from a Google... it is here:
Settings>Display>touch key light duration.
Thx for including that 'Xposed' can do the swap of locations, but now that I've got them lit all the time, it
really doesn't matter which side is which.
If your like me 99% of your phones had the back on the left and recent on the right. Why samsung wants to be different with this is beyond me. But here's how you can change that.
First, you need root.
Second (personal preferance) I disabled the back lights of the keys.
Do that using galaxy button lights
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.notquiteinsane.galaxybuttonlights
Second, you need all in one gestures
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.phoenixstudios.aiogestures
In gestures, give root access then in in hardkeys, add recent (back and home should already be there) then simply make back, recents, and recents, back.. that's it!
Most people are right handed and back button makes more sense on the right because one uses back button more than uses recents so Samsung got that right.
Sent from my SM-G920T
It's more organic for the back button to be on the left.
ambervals6 said:
Most people are right handed and back button makes more sense on the right because one uses back button more than uses recents so Samsung got that right.
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It's more of a matter of staying the same. While you may be right (no pun intended) most phones are setup the way Google has it. So most get used to this. I've had the s6 since launch day and I still never got used to it. Once I did this it felt much more natural.
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It's more of a matter of staying the same. While you may be right (no pun intended) most phones are setup the way Google has it. So most get used to this. I've had the s6 since launch day and I still never got used to it. Once I did this it felt much more natural.
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When samsung made devices google didn't even exist. Tell me which are these "most" phone that you are talking about anyways if you like on screen buttons the way google set it up, just disable the capacitive buttons and install app from playstore to have onscreen buttons. Make more sense to have the back button on the right though.
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zathus said:
If your like me 99% of your phones had the back on the left and recent on the right. Why samsung wants to be different with this is beyond me. But here's how you can change that.
First, you need root.
Second (personal preferance) I disabled the back lights of the keys.
Do that using galaxy button lights
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.notquiteinsane.galaxybuttonlights
Second, you need all in one gestures
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.phoenixstudios.aiogestures
In gestures, give root access then in in hardkeys, add recent (back and home should already be there) then simply make back, recents, and recents, back.. that's it!
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When samsung made devices google didn't even exist. Tell me which are these "most" phone that you are talking about anyways if you like on screen buttons the way google set it up, just disable the capacitive buttons and install app from playstore to have onscreen buttons. Make more sense to have the back button on the right though.
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I think when he says "most" he means every android phone ever not made by Samsung. Back button should be on the left.
ECEXCURSION said:
I think when he says "most" he means every android phone ever not made by Samsung. Back button should be on the left.
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I'm sure he's arguing just to argue lol obviously I meant other phones besides Samsung and obviously I'm talking about Android phones not every phone ever made. Since we're talking about the capacitive key layout for Android lol I'm actually shocked he didn't say the iPhone layout is different to. They're back key is in the upper left. I guess that throws out the right handed theory.
Essentially it's driving on the left side of the road and then driving on the right side of the road. One may be more right than the other but once you're used to something it's hard to change that. Especially for the sake of changing. Are used both my right and left hand for my phone and my thumb always wants to go to the left for the back key.
you don't need root for all in one gestures to switch the keys
Who cares, if you want them swapped here is a way to do it. If you dont then thats fine.
Choices like this are hardly a bad thing.
fachadick said:
you don't need root for all in one gestures to switch the keys
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No? Cool. It asked for root when I opened it so I assumed it was required. That's even better
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No? Cool. It asked for root when I opened it so I assumed it was required. That's even better
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yeah - I was running it before I rooted. Then after I rooted it started asking me for root access too.
zathus said:
Why samsung wants to be different with this is beyond me.
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I actually prefer the Samsung layout. Why? Because for me the right button is much easier to reach without having to stretch the thumb than the left and I use the back key much more often than the recent apps key. So the button I use the most, beside the home button, is on the position thats more comfortable to tap on. Makes sense to me.
Samsung got it right. The most used button should be on the side where it is easiest for most people, which is on the right. Not sure why Google has decided to put this button on the left. One of the first things I do when I have a phone with software nav keys is change the back button to be on the right side, closest to my right thumb.
Well done to the op for providing a solution for lefties and Google fanboys, but I add my weight to the fact Samsung got it right. Google used to be about choice, no more.
ambervals6 said:
Most people are right handed and back button makes more sense on the right because one uses back button more than uses recents so Samsung got that right.
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Actually, if you are right handed, holding your phone with the right hand, will be a lot more comfortable to press on the recents with your thumb.