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I'm not ready to root my new Note3. Not until the Knox-bit issue and full recovery back is there.
So, what is the benefit of the external SD card if you can't move apps there (non-rooted) ?
What should I move there, without ROOT ?
You can go into the application manager on the Note 3 and move a bunch of your apps there now even though it is not rooted! With the speed of this monster there is no reason why you would need to root. Also, if you already have the SD card in the unit when installing large games or apps, it is smart enough to automatically install the larger ones there anyway. This phone is freaking amazing!
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Hmm, and have you checked that it IS saving it to ext SD?
What it does is send it to the internal SD . I have tried numerous times to do this,
and whilst it says your app is on the sd card not one byte shows up there whatsoever.
What is odd though is if you then take out the sd card it will tell you the app isn't installed.
Never the less nothing is ever saved to ext-sd , it goes to the emulated internal memory.
Useless
What tool are you using to measure the storage used?
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Ok guys is it just me? I have had my note 8.0 since it came out in the meantime I have had the tab pro 10.1 and the nexus 9 both really disappointing. Yet my note 8.0 still fies super fast and fluid my nexus 9 stutters and drives me mad. How com the small note series work so well. Note 2 and 3 included. I swear my note 3 runs more fluid than the note 4 maybe the Qhd display not sure.
wierd that the note 8.0 is the only keeper androud tab I have had.
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Ok guys is it just me? I have had my note 8.0 since it came out in the meantime I have had the tab pro 10.1 and the nexus 9 both really disappointing. Yet my note 8.0 still fies super fast and fluid my nexus 9 stutters and drives me mad. How com the small note series work so well. Note 2 and 3 included. I swear my note 3 runs more fluid than the note 4 maybe the Qhd display not sure.
wierd that the note 8.0 is the only keeper androud tab I have had.
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Good to hear. I'm seriously considering picking one up. Are you running stock?
if the note 8 have a good battery than the nexus , it will be the best for ever
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My AT&T Note 8 has excellent battery life; around 7 hours of screen time with 4g always on.
I get >10,000 Quadrant on Note 8 after 4.4.x update.
It appears N5110 is pretty solid and it still performs well after a year and half.
Totally agree, years later and still the most functional.
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Ok guys is it just me? I have had my note 8.0 since it came out in the meantime I have had the tab pro 10.1 and the nexus 9 both really disappointing. Yet my note 8.0 still fies super fast and fluid my nexus 9 stutters and drives me mad. How com the small note series work so well. Note 2 and 3 included. I swear my note 3 runs more fluid than the note 4 maybe the Qhd display not sure.
wierd that the note 8.0 is the only keeper androud tab I have had.
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Totally agree. Can't wait for a note 8 rehash. It's a real "niche" market though for "us". The stylus and screen size are just great for notes. Not too big like the note 10.1 or 12 inchers (unless you're a graphic artist). Just small enough to fit in a coat pocket with the functionality of a small clip board but with the robustness of a mini computer. Plus games run perfect. Still running on JB stock. Have no intention of ever upgrading to Kit-kat so long as it has that terrible "no write to sd card" policy for 3rd party apps (which really ruined so many wonderful sync apps for the note 8 such as folder sync, syncme, ES file explorer, airdroid, camera ace, WPS office). I like the bezels (good for holding up the note with one hand and writing with a stylus on the other). Plus ram is just right. 2 gigs with a little over 1 gig ram for the actual "end user." I checked out the note 4 with 3 gigs of ram stock and it has a little less than 1 gig of ram for the end user (so Sammy filled up all that gorgeous ram with bloatware again). I think the note 8 on the last stable update for stock jellybean is the best at least for me (excluding of course the amazing roms available on XDA but rom flashing is a totally different universe to play around with putting the note 8 on a totally different level).
I ran across an article that got my attention even though it was related to (sorry folks) iPads and iPhones. The author commented that since he got an iPhone 6+ his tablet has gotten neglected. Then proceeded to discuss ways of using both. Though the particular article was about iWhatevers, I have recently gotten a Galaxy Note 4 and am noticing my 10.1 being much less used.
So I'm curious. Are others here in the same situation? Do you have both a tablet and a phone? Are you using both effectively? What do you use to keep them integrated?
http://www.zdnet.com/life-after-the...0036357/?s_cid=e539&ttag=e539&ftag=TRE17cfd61
That's 'cause despite Jobs' edict, most folks wanted something bigger to use daily and had to get a tablet to do so.
Personally, the effect of a tablet's been the reverse- when I got my first Android tablet nearly 4 years ago my phone was relegated to only being used to make phone calls and get directions and is still neglected most of the time; my tablet does everything else.
I own a 2012 Note 10.1 and a Note 4.
I split my time between them. I love using both devices.
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I have a 2012 note 10.1 and a note 3. I split this difference most of the time. I can do whatever I need on both devices but sometimes like the extra screen space if im using multi window for studying.
I am on Moto X and Note 10.1
Hi,
slightly off topic, i have a habit of falling into devices
a good idea for excess devices that fall to the wayside
might be to network them as a home intercom/security system
with you phone as a remote monitor.
probably very helpful for care of elderly or disabled family/friends
with limited mobility, and more affordable than a professional/commercial
over-priced setup.
just a thought.
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Currently own a note 3 and a note 10.1 (8013), use my phone for nearly everything. My tablet is currently a remote wake on lan for my desktop, a backup device for files, and a wall mounted clock/weather station. While my tablet doesnt get much attention its still very useful.
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Also a Note 3 and 10. (8013) user. Both get equal time for me. of course my phone is always on me so when I am mobile my tablet is not in use. But I prefer it to do everything since the screen is larger.
Note 1
Note 2
Note 3
Note 10.1
Got Note 3 and Note 10.1 2012 edition. Both are the best
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I also have the Note 3, and I use to do everything related to college with the Note 10.1, and maybe to some multimedia content.
I have the Note 2 and Note 10.1 2012 edition; I usually have both on me at any given time, neither of them are neglected. I prefer my tablet for playing Ruzzle, taking notes, and reading in general. I love them both, will upgrade to the Note 4 in Feb
I have Note 4 & GT-N8000.
At the first 5 days I neglected my Note 10.1 to learn all the features of Note 4, Root it & put some mod/tweak.
After that I'm back on using both of them equally.
I separate the function of both: N8000 mainly for creativity, ebook/article reading & Games + backup "phone", Note 4 mainly for appointment, business notes & main phone + backup creativity/games.
I even have just replaced my N8000 battery so it feels like a new device again.
The point is both are great devices on their own.
Tablet is bigger so it's better for reading, gaming & similar activities.
Phone is smaller so it's better for taking quick notes, phone calling, recording & similar activities.
By dividing the necessity based on size of the device I manage to get more benefit from both such as better battery life (Note 4 : 1 day,18hrs with 1.5hrs screen time + wifi,BT,NFC always on and GT-N8000: 15hrs,43mnt at 44% with new battery at the time I write this), easy to my eyes & better life organization.
And BTW, I also use both S-Pen very often.
That's how I use both my Note 4 & GT-N8000.
When I got my note 10.1 I decided to replace Hi end phone with Xperia E dual, just to check e-mail, make phone calls and send messages. I think their functions cross, so there is no point for using both.
I have a Note 4. Should I get Note 10.1 or Nexus 10?
Ok so, I'm trying to decide between getting the Note 10.1 (2012) or the Nexus 10. I currently have a Note 4, and love the handwriting features, and I'm not sure if I'm willing to give that up for the Nexus 10. However, I notice that the Note 10.1 is only officially updated until like 4.1.2 Jelly Bean. And I love the Nexus 10 for the fact that it already has the latest updates.
My question is, is the Note 10.1 still a decently fast, capable tablet? And is it fairly easy to root? Or should I just go ahead and go with the Nexus 10?
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Ok so, I'm trying to decide between getting the Note 10.1 (2012) or the Nexus 10. I currently have a Note 4, and love the handwriting features, and I'm not sure if I'm willing to give that up for the Nexus 10. However, I notice that the Note 10.1 is only officially updated until like 4.1.2 Jelly Bean. And I love the Nexus 10 for the fact that it already has the latest updates.
My question is, is the Note 10.1 still a decently fast, capable tablet? And is it fairly easy to root? Or should I just go ahead and go with the Nexus 10?
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I'm guessing low price is your motivation for getting the older model. Which is fair but do expect it to be a bit outdated.
My Note 10.1 still meets my needs. I applied the Gnabo ROM which brings it up to 4.4.2 and has the newer Samsung tools (S-Note, air command) and it works fine and it was easy to root.
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I'm guessing low price is your motivation for getting the older model. Which is fair but do expect it to be a bit outdated.
My Note 10.1 still meets my needs. I applied the Gnabo ROM which brings it up to 4.4.2 and has the newer Samsung tools (S-Note, air command) and it works fine and it was easy to root.
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Cool. Thanks for the reply. I ended up going for the Nexus 10 just in case I decide to get into a little development. Just figured I'll either use my Note 4 for handwriting when I need it. Or just get a stylus for the Nexus 10 and deal with the lower amount of accuracy compared to a Note device.
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Cool. Thanks for the reply. I ended up going for the Nexus 10 just in case I decide to get into a little development. Just figured I'll either use my Note 4 for handwriting when I need it. Or just get a stylus for the Nexus 10 and deal with the lower amount of accuracy compared to a Note device.
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Hope the works out. Check out this stylus. I used it with my S4 before making the switch to a Note 4. Not as good as an s-pen but better than a crayon size stylus.
The Joy Factory Pinpoint Precision Active Stylus with Ultra-Slim Tip (BCU201) for iPad, iPad Air, Mini, Samsung Galaxy Tab, Note, HP Elite, Google Nexus and related tablets https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HZQLMCM/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_ITQ0ub1524PCG
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I first bought the original Note phone on 2012, then bought the 10.1 when it went on sale. Have used both until the Note phone started to randomly crash, reboot, and battery swelled (enough to pop out the back cover). To be fair I had messed about with it lots, installing whatever ROM and kernels on it. I left it in my drawer once I bought the Xperia Z (best phone I've ever had). I only took it out again after I installed night owl CM 12 on it and bought a new battery, it now lives in my car, SIM less, using Nokia HERE for my navigation needs and is pretty good offline. New lease of life for the old boy lol.
The 10.1 saw less and less use after I switched to the Z, until recently when I picked it up again for use in my studies, and decided to format and start over again. Still on stock Samsung ROM, but it's enough. Carrying it around with me nearly all the time. Kind of regret not buying the 3G version but I can hot spot from the Z anyway. It's also really good for backing up photos from my camera while I'm out. 64gb microSD
Z in pocket, Note in car, Note 10.1 in bag with big back up battery in bag.....pretty much set until they give up lol, :fingers-crossed:
Original Note bought in 2012
N8000 still in use
Note 3 playing around with.
Note 10.1 2014 edition.
Note 4.
Note Edge...
I use all these items, though the original Note tends to have a bit of desk time, as they have pro's and cons over each other for various things...
The old N8000 is my backup tablet. It gets carried around all the time in case my newer 2014 ed battery dies but is still capable (though you REALLY notice that 2Gb ram difference).
Note Edge is main phone with the Note 4 and then 3 as backups...
I have sim cards in the 2014 Edition 10.1 and the 3/4 phones though some of these are just for contact phones - no credit on account.
Got to play with both today! The note 5 stylus is spring loaded and more hidden. Both have the same design as the s6. Glass front and back. Beyond that... It's essentially the same specs as the s6 with very minor improvements.
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Ok, what was the point to release new note 5, if there is no big difference? Any new features like eye scan or maybe faster and better fingerprint recognition?
Worst new feature is no SD card support
This means I will never buy the Note 5.
Well, I for one think that the Note 5 not having any major changes from the Note 4 is a good thing. Why? Because you don't have to spend more money on a new phone, and if you can't afford a new phone, you don't have to feel like you're missing out on the newest gadget.
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Got to play with both today! The note 5 stylus is spring loaded and more hidden. Both have the same design as the s6. Glass front and back. Beyond that... It's essentially the same specs as the s6 with very minor improvements.
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So do they have fixed batteries, what size, and no sd? Is the screen better than the note 4? Are they identical processors and memory?
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If there's root for either of those 2 I'm getting it. Bye bye note 4
It's pretty much the s6 but bigger. Internal battery and same design. I have no idea about the SD card but I'm going to assume no. The rep has stated many times after the s6 launch that they had no plans of bring the SD card option back. Which I'm glad for. I worked at a repair center for years and 2 of the biggest problems we had were from people using 3rd party batteries and using an old SD card from their original epic or evo. Simply taking out the old SD card fixed nearly all their problems then switching their battery out with an OEM battery fixed everything else. Bad aftermarket battery's can and will cause your phone to freeze/lock up and perform power cycles. Usually after only a few minutes use. Using an old or class 4 or below SD card can and will lock your phone up and/or cause power cycles. Sucks the rest are being punished but its a very tiny community that even uses all of 32gb of the internal storage before getting a new phone or just the few bucks extra and get the 64gb model. Faster more stable form of storage.
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It's pretty much the s6 but bigger. Internal battery and same design. I have no idea about the SD card but I'm going to assume no. The rep has stated many times after the s6 launch that they had no plans of bring the SD card option back. Which I'm glad for. I worked at a repair center for years and 2 of the biggest problems we had were from people using 3rd party batteries and using an old SD card from their original epic or evo. Simply taking out the old SD card fixed nearly all their problems then switching their battery out with an OEM battery fixed everything else. Bad aftermarket battery's can and will cause your phone to freeze/lock up and perform power cycles. Usually after only a few minutes use. Using an old or class 4 or below SD card can and will lock your phone up and/or cause power cycles. Sucks the rest are being punished but its a very tiny community that even uses all of 32gb of the internal storage before getting a new phone or just the few bucks extra and get the 64gb model. Faster more stable form of storage.
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So you got hands on both of the but didn't notice a lack of SD card port?
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So you got hands on both of the but didn't notice a lack of SD card port?
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Exactly.
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Wow so no SD cards anymore?! As much as I love my note 4 I'm basically going to have to in the future look elsewhere to another brand that uses micro sd. Sorry Samsung but if I wanted an iPhone I would've bought one. So what are the choices when it comes to memory?
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The internal memory is sooooo much faster than even a class 10 SD card. Why not pony up for the 64 GB version and be done? Unless you like to keep several HD Blu-Ray rips or a plethora of high-end games on your phone, I can't imagine running out of space with 64 GB. I have a playlist of about 1000 songs, most at 256 kbps, and it uses about 9 gigs. Still lots of room when you have 64 gigs. Just my $0.02.
There are new pictures on verge. Basically a note 4 with a new frame. Honestly I can't see why i would move from a note 4 to a note 5. Cost for the equivalent of what I have, of based on s6 prices, is $1k. Better to get a g4 (for around $480 today) or keep the note 4.
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Oh and to be fair.. The rep said he could not confirm that the device I was holding was a note 5. He said he couldn't say what the real name was. He called the phone without edges "project noble" it could be the galaxy s6+. The other device was definitely/obviously the s6 edge+. Which he also couldn't confirm on the name. With both devices having the same exact design and same specs as the s6 then the note 5 could be a completely other device yet seen.
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The internal memory is sooooo much faster than even a class 10 SD card. Why not pony up for the 64 GB version and be done? Unless you like to keep several HD Blu-Ray rips or a plethora of high-end games on your phone, I can't imagine running out of space with 64 GB. I have a playlist of about 1000 songs, most at 256 kbps, and it uses about 9 gigs. Still lots of room when you have 64 gigs. Just my $0.02.
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yeah but comparing the SD card in your phone is like comparing a USB drive to a computer. I'm constantly exchanging music, videos, pictures, and large size files with other devices, and friends. I also move gigs of files to and from my computer. I just pop out the SD card and place it in my other device, the SD card slot in my laptop, my tablet, etc.
also if worse comes to worse and I brick my phone, its the SD card that'll save me when I transfer a recovery to it.
the truth of it is there's no other solution that works nearly as well as having an SD card. and if you're someone like me whos on the go, and hardly ever touches a PC, SD card is so important.
I also trust my SD card much more.. if my phone were to break or get wet, everything inside is ruined, but if my pictures are on an SD card, while my phone is gone, my precious memories aren't.
SD card 4 life!
(also the Note series is a PRODUCTIVITY line, how could they ever scrap such a crucial thing for power users, and business travelers..)
no sd card and no removable battery. Definitely deal breaker. I am going to keep my note 4 for a long time.
They make USB drives for phones now. They have 2 ends. A micro USB end and a regular USB end for that exact reason. Way more reliable than an SD card.
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My Samsung rep brought both devices in today and the edge device had a stylus. More than likely will be the note edge not the s6 edge plus. The rep told me with his time with these devices his battery life is about double the battery life of the s6. Definitely looking forward to this new note
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If there's root for either of those 2 I'm getting it. Bye bye note 4
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Totally agree, i would imagine that if a permanent trustworthy non-chinese root method is attained on the Note 5 within first couple months of release then it will be definitely worth it, otherwise, I am dumping Samsung Note 4 and Galaxy Tab Pro for good, hello Moto or Huawei Nexus.
It's not samsung fault for lack of sd card support,
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Google-SD-Card-Nexus-Smartphone,18841.html
But my next phone will probably be the sony xperia z3, since the z3+ doesn't have lte and I haven't seen anyone add the band's for att lte to it successfully yet
Also to the op,I used both phones, how did you not notice if there was or was not an SD card and how did you not notice the back of the note 5? It's not the same as the 6
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They make USB drives for phones now. They have 2 ends. A micro USB end and a regular USB end for that exact reason. Way more reliable than an SD card.
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Because that's much easier to keep plugged in at all times.
The new iNote sounds like garbage.
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Have a note 4 and may have to get rid of my note 7 at some point and just wondering if I should get a note 5 or use my note 4.
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Have a note 4 and may have to get rid of my note 7 at some point and just wondering if I should get a note 5 or use my note 4.
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Tbh its not that hard of a quest, im sure the majority will prefer the note 4 such as i, the note 5 has taken away expandable storage and the rf blaster but is given a performance boost with a newer processor.
So imo id stick with the note 4 as it is a much more diverse device, samsung dropped the ball on both the note 5 and obviously the note 7, here is what you do though, use your note 4 and install a note 7 port and it will feel brand spanking new, i have aurora 4.1 and i am absolutely loving my note 4 performance and battery wise.
In terms of processing power, yes the Note 5 is better than any of the Note 4 variants. But in terms of flexibility for everyday use the Note 4 is better as it has a microSDCard slot.
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Have a note 4 and may have to get rid of my note 7 at some point and just wondering if I should get a note 5 or use my note 4.
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Other than only having 64gb of storage the note 5 is much better than the note 4 ( which i am using now lol).
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But I can't use my micro SD card that is in my note 4?
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But I can't use my micro SD card that is in my note 4?
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Umm no lol. That would be a little hard due to the lack of an sd card slot.
Thats the only bad thing about the note 5 and the only reason i got rid of mine..64gb is not adequate storage for me.
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