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With the announcement at I/O, which Android Wear will you get?

And why?! Please no bashing of certain brands/watches! Discussion thread only!

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Well, personally I use a LG G2 as my daily driver now. I would naturally go for the G Watch.
I agree that the circular watch face on the Moto 360 is way awesome. But it is not available just yet
In comparison of the G Watch and the Galaxy Gear Live. I would go for G Watch, on same company and the fact that it has more battery.
400 vs 300, thats 1/4 differences, which is a lot. My previous experiences with Galaxy 3 didn't occur to me that Samsung's products are not battery hungry. I would rather have 25% more battery than say, having an extra heartbeat sensor (which will potentially use up more battery?)
I also like IPS screen more :good:

I like the look of the 360 best but from videos I've seen, a square screen has a lot more usable real estate than a round one. So I would choose the Gear.

Little confused. I was looking to get the gear 2 but figured I'd wait. With the news today..will one be able to answer calls and text on the android wear watches? Also..it looks like they are basically revolving around Google now?
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I have ordered the Gear Live. Higher resolution and heart rate sensor made me pick it over the LG. The fact that it was cheaper helped too.
I will probably pick up a Moto 360 when it becomes available as well.

Are there any hands on that show how you wake the Gear Live from it's sleep state? Does a simple flick of the wrist work, or do I have to press the button. If I have to press the button, I'm going to get the G Watch in a flash.

I voted galaxy gear one hundred percent because its 30 bucks cheaper. Dont know why the LG G is more? Haha so thats why i came to this thread.

Just ordered both (UK) as I'm undecided and expect them to sell out fast... my brother wants one anyway so will give him the Samsung most likely.
Strange that the LG was the cheaper one in the UK? Maybe it has a secret spec :fingers-crossed:
Prefer the LG anyway as it is smaller and looks to have a longer battery life (essential in a watch device).

Ordered the LG.
Battery life was the decider.

The Moto360 - because of its circular display with near zero bezel
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The Moto360 is a reinterpretation of the classic circular wrist watch which makes it a classic in its own right. The display has a near zero bezel, running edge to edge which is a first. I find these two enough to go for it. There's a high novelty value. The screen looks fantastic.
Apparently the screen is off most of the time, and can be turned on with a) a gesture b) touch c) the button.
Wireless charging is the right move.
Negatives:
The screen doesn't have an anti-reflective coating, though, so it will be hard to read outdoors, impossible in the sun.
The battery won't last more than a few years, and sinces it's likely to be non replaceable. This prevents the Moto360 from becoming a true classic worn in the future. Not that important, perhaps, since there will be better versions out in the future, but it makes it less of a classic, more time bound, ephemeral.

Find it a little strange the LG is cheaper in the UK, but more expensive in the US.
Went for the Gear, no real decider as they're really similar, hoping as samsung have a history with them the hardware will be a bit better

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The Moto360 is a reinterpretation of the classic circular wrist watch which makes it a classic in its own right. The display has a near zero bezel, running edge to edge which is a first. I find these two enough to go for it. There's a high novelty value. The screen looks fantastic.
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Good points. I'm a guy who wears a classic round-faced watch everyday and want to get into Android Wear. Moto360 seems to be the right choice for me.
Does the Moto360 actually have Android Wear on it? Why were they allowed to release a bunch of pics and advertise before the I/O while everyone else had to/wanted to wait? What else do we know about it? Price? Release date?

Ordered the Gear
Better style, heart rate monitor, cheaper

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Ordered the Gear
Better style, heart rate monitor, cheaper
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Same. Ordered it last night.
My s/o thought the gear live just looked way better.

I was torn on what to get. Obviously the 360's design is fantastic. For a poor graduate student, though, it is going to (likely) be well above my price range at the moment. I have $150 from the recall of my FitBit Force and decided to go with the Gear Live because of the AMOLED screen and the overall design. JR Raphael of PC World and Artem Russakovskii from AndroidPolice both recommended the Gear Live over the G Watch. Neither of them have led me astray yet, so I will take their word.
Once I am done with grad school and have a good job in hand, I will upgrade to something more fancy-schmancy. I'm stoked to get my Gear Live, though!

Ordered the Samsung here in the UK
I wanted the LG until I saw it ....
I think the Samsung looks better, has higher screen res, and the HRM - the other main factor was that Samsung have been making smart watches for a while now, so should have learnt a few things
All that said - I like the Moto with the metal strap - so will probably change later in the year --- by which time HTC may have come up with something

I orderded the G watch. Personally think its better looking than the Gear. Hoping the 400mah battery pays off as well. Ultimately hoping whatever HTC has up their sleeves will be as amazing as their phones.

I jumped for the Gwatch. I personally like the less flashy design, and chose to support LG over Samsung. Pretty excited to get it! It's a step in the right direction I would say.

Just ordered a Gear Live, G-Watch was tempting but it is more expensive has a worse display and fewer sensors ?
The Motorola Watch is vaporware, this is why Motorola dropped from number one manufacturer to a company bought out by a Chinese corporation. Motorola has not been first to the market with anything in years.

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Still AndroidWear SmartWachtes is are so young
No Camera
No Speak-Mic to Answer Call
and lots of more features.
when i compare androidWear by Tizen Powered SmartWatches I will choose Galaxy Gear2

My review of the Oneplus One 64gb Sandstone Black

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INTRODUCTION
If you’re a mobile enthusiast, then you’ve probably heard of the Oneplus One, the 2014 flagship killer that has come out of nowhere and is offering top spec performance for half the price of the established smartphones from the likes of Samsung, LG and Sony. If you’re not a mobile enthusiast, I’ll wind this whole review up by saying the battery doesn’t last a week like your Nokia 5110 and you can move on.
Getting hold of a Oneplus One isn’t the easiest of things to do – no high street shops offering subsidised contracts, no major mobile carriers offering deals, you can’t even just buy one online. You have to be invited to buy a Oneplus One via their forum, and when you are, you have 24 hours to buy the phone. So when the opportunity came up to grab one of 30,000 invites, I jumped at the chance!
Once my invite arrived, I headed over to the online store to choose my new phone – either the 16gb model in silk white for £229, or the 64gb model in sandstone black for £269. As the Oneplus One doesn’t have a MicroSD slot, I chose the 64gb model as 16gb won’t last long. Payment was made through PayPal, and was a simple and easy process.
Three days later, Royal Mail bought me a large padded jiffy bag, and that’s when the good stuff really starts!
TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS
BASIC PARAMETERS
Color Silk White/Sandstone Black
Dimensions 152.9 x 75.9 x 8.9 mm
Weight 5.71 ounces (162 g)
OS Cyanogen 11S based on Android 4.4
CPU Qualcomm© Snapdragon™ 801 processor with 2.5GHz Quad-core CPUs
GPU Adreno 330, 578MHz
RAM 3 GB LP-DDR3, 1866MHz
Storage 16/64 GB eMMC 5.0, available capacity varies
Sensors Accelerometer, Gyroscope, Proximity and Ambient Light
Battery Embedded rechargeable 3100 mAh LiPo battery
CONNECTIVITY
Connectivity
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900MHz
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/8
LTE: Bands: 1/3/4/7/17/38/40
Wi-Fi Dual-band Wi-Fi (2.4G/5G) 802.11 b/g/n/ac
Bluetooth Bluetooth 4.0
NFC 65T (software card emulation, payment methods and multi-tag support)
Positioning Internal GPS antenna + GLONASS
Digital Compass
PORTS, SLOTS, BUTTONS AND INDICATORS
Ports Data & Charging: Micro USB 2.0
Audio: Jack 3.5mm
Buttons Power Button
Volume Rockers
Capacitive / On-screen buttons
SIM 1 slot - Micro SIM
Indicators 1 LED notification light (multicolored)
DISPLAY
Size 5.5 inch JDI
Resolution 1080p Full HD (1920 x 1080 pixels), 401 PPI
Type LTPS IPS with TOL
Protection Corning© Gorilla© Glass 3
CAMERAS
Sensor 13 Megapixel - Sony Exmor IMX 214
Lenses 6 lenses to avoid distortion and color aberration
Flash Dual-LED
Aperture f/2.0
Front Camera 5 Megapixel - Distortion free
Video 4K resolution video with stereo recording Slow Motion: 720p video at 120fps
AUDIO
Speakers Bottom Facing Dual Speakers
Microphones Tri-microphone with noise cancellation
MULTIMEDIA
Audio supported formats
Playback: MP3, AAC, AMR, OGG, M4A, MID, WMA, FLAC, APE, AAC, WAV
Recording: AAC, M4A
Video supported formats
Playback: MP4, H.263, H.264, RMVB, FLV720P
Recording: MP4
Image supported formats
Playback: JPEG, PNG, GIF, BMP
Output: JPEG, RAW
UP CLOSE
Inside the well padded jiffy bag I found two boxes and a small plastic bag. The bag contained a UK mains adapter that appears to support just about every type of mains plug used worldwide, but does not alter voltage.
The reason for this is clear when sliding open the smaller of the two boxes, as the charger included with the Oneplus One has a European power plug. It operates on any voltage between 100-220VAC and outputs 2,100MaH.
But what’s in the big brown box??? Let’s pull that little red tab (a lovely touch) to rip open the cardboard and find out…
It’s… another box! And what appears to be a SIM card tray in a small plastic pouch – more on that in a moment. Now, let’s slide this box open… tissues at the ready guys…
Ooosh!!! There it is!!! Good job I had those tissues ready, as I’m drooling like a xenomorph looming over a fresh colonist. First impressions: It’s big! It’s black! And I want it! And I bet you want it too! But I’m such a tease, I’m going to leave my new toy cradled in its formed plastic tray, and find out what else we get in the box…
It’s a USB lead, and a keyring! A keyring??? Yes, a keyring. But wait – there’s more to it than that! The keyring contains the SIM tray ejection pin, and seeing as there’s already a SIM tray inserted into the phone, why not slip that shiny tool deep into its orifice and push it firmly home… oh I say. It’s a tsunami of filth in here…
Ah, that’s why we get a spare SIM tray! One is sized to take a micro SIM, the other takes a nano SIM. But if you still have one of the standard sized SIM card, then it’s about time you joined the 21st century and sorted that out. Honestly, some people, I’m amazed you’re not living in a cave eating raw meat.
Shall we get back to the handset, while the Neanderthal gulps down a bone marrow smoothie?
The front of the phone is very minimalist, with just a flush speaker grille and a front mounted camera lens breaking up the slab of black Gorilla glass that sits slightly proud of a chromed plastic bezel. There are capacitive buttons at the bottom – menu, home and back – that light up when needed.
The back is in a lovely textured black coating that Oneplus call Sandstone Black, and I can see why – it’s almost like coarse sandpaper. Useful for rubbing down your bodywork.
At the top we have the six lens Sony Exmor 13 megapixel lens and a dual LED flash, with the whole assembly sitting slightly proud of the body. There’s a matt black coating applied with cut-outs for the lens and flash. Next to it is one of the microphone holes – there are three microphones in total for active noise cancellation.
Below that, the Oneplus logo is embossed into the coating and is gloss black. Further down, the Cyanogen logo and product info is printed on top of the coating in mid grey ink.
The bottom of the handset has two speaker grilles, a microphone hole and a MicroUSB socket.
The top has a hole for the 3.5mm audio jack, and a microphone hole.
The left side has the volume rocker, which doesn’t stick out very far at all. Still easy to use, though.
The right side has the power button, which sticks out as far as the volume rocker. Again, easy to press.
Hey, what happens if I press it???
After holding the power button for a second, the phone buzzes and springs into life, showing me a couple of Cyanogen logos before running the usual set-up wizard familiar to any Android phone. Once completed, I was prompted to install the latest firmware update which was a very simple process to follow, all updates being delivered OTA (Over The Air) and installed without the use of a PC.
First impressions – the screen is lovely, really big and clear, and very typical of a good LCD screen. Blacks are a little grey, as expected, and only noticeable as my old phone – a Samsung Galaxy S4 – has an AMOLED screen that has truly black blacks and a lot more contrast. But this is still a very good screen with vibrant colours and crisp clear text – as any screen with full 1080p resolution and 401 pixels per inch would be. The handset sits well in my hand, and everything is within easy reach, even though it’s considerably larger than my S4. Weight is nice, and that back coating is so grippy! Really liking this texture, but I can’t help wondering how tough it is and how long it will last.
So now that’s done, let’s do some benchmarking!
PERFORMANCE
All tests are carried out with completely stock firmware running at stock speeds. All opened apps are closed before testing.
First up – Antutu.
An Antutu score of 44,803 puts it right at the top of the table for mobile performance, beating the Samsung Galaxy S5, The HTC M8t, and the Galaxy Note 3. Wow. Let’s put that into perspective here – this is a £270 phone beating phones that cost twice as much to buy SIM free. Serious performance, helped by Cyanogens highly optimised version of CyanogenMod 11 developed specifically for this phones Snapdragon 801 processor.
Geekbench next:
Again, another crushing blow for more expensive handsets – The Oneplus One single core score of 971 is only six points behind the brand new Moto X, but surprisingly its multi core performance is on a par with the LG G3 and well below the Moto X score of 2916. Further optimisations of the software will be needed to close that gap.
And finally: Quadrant.
The Oneplus One scores 24,801 against the Galaxy S5 score of 25,041 – but beats everything else. This phone can seriously punch above its weight, when cost is factored in.
CONCLUSION
Whichever way you look at the Oneplus One, you just can not escape the fact that it offers incredible value for money. Looking on a certain High Street mobile retailers website who made their name selling phones for cars from a warehouse, SIM free phones of a similar price include the LG G2 Mini, the Nexus 5 16gb, and the Sony Xperia T3. The Oneplus One doesn’t just beat them, it pounds them into a bloody pulp and daubs its body in their internal fluids while screaming defiance at the stars.
Up at the top end of the market, where the Samsung Galaxy S5, Motorola Moto X and LG G3 live in their high rise luxury apartments which smell of rich mahogany and have many leather bound books, that’s where the Oneplus One hunts. And it trades blows with them all day every day and emerges unbloodied. These are phones that cost upwards of £600, and they are being hounded by an upstart from the wrong side of the tracks. They must absolutely bloody hate it.
So, the Oneplus One is a complete no brainer, everybody who wants a top end phone should go and buy one – right?
Hold on there, cowboy - it’s a bit more complicated than that. Firstly, you can’t just buy one. You’ve got to wait for a round of invites to be announced by either following Oneplus on social media or signing up to their forum, and when they do come around you’ve got to act fast – this is a handset in demand and if you snooze you lose. And don’t forget here we’re dealing with a very new company who don’t have a huge track record of customer service like Samsung, Sony, LG et al – if something goes wrong with your new toy you can’t just pop down to your local mobile phone store and walk out with a fresh replacement. While the hardware might be top notch, we don’t know how long it will last. And the software is created by what effectively boils down to a bunch of enthusiastic amateurs. It’s like taking a high powered kit car out for a fast lap of the track – it might be blowing the wheels off everything else out there, but it was built by a bloke called Derek in a shed and if a wheel comes off you’re right up that famous creek with no paddle.
So – should you or shouldn’t you?
If you want the latest phone, but want the safety net that comes with a proven track record of performance and quality and the reassurance of a solid customer service record, then you’re going to be spending a lot of money with the big boys like Samsung, Sony, Motorola etc.
But if you want the latest phone, and don’t want to spend your hard earned cash supporting a multi billion pound advertising budget, retail stores, and fat executive salaries – and are prepared to take a gamble that if it all goes wrong you might end up getting bitten on the arse – then the Oneplus One is right up your street. Let’s face it – you could buy two of them and still have change from the price of a Galaxy Note 4.
The Oneplus One has to be the smartphone performance bargain of the year.

Great writing!Nice and explanatory!

Classical round design, Metal housing China smartwatch

After NO.1 G2 smartwatch last year, NO.1 release another smartwatch. The newest watch from the company though is a little more unique. Named the NO.1 SUN S2, it features a gold body and round screen similar to the Moto 360.
This circular smart watch is made of metal and looks just like a conventional watch. This wearable comes packed with a 240x240p screen and a 350 mAh battery, mt6260 chip. You can make calls, read text messages, check call logs, browse contacts, play music, track your heart rate and keep a log on your activity, among other things. IT even has a camera (130W pixels).

No. 1 Sun S2
Herberteten said:
After NO.1 G2 smartwatch last year, NO.1 release another smartwatch. The newest watch from the company though is a little more unique. Named the NO.1 SUN S2, it features a gold body and round screen similar to the Moto 360.
This circular smart watch is made of metal and looks just like a conventional watch. This wearable comes packed with a 240x240p screen and a 350 mAh battery, mt6260 chip. You can make calls, read text messages, check call logs, browse contacts, play music, track your heart rate and keep a log on your activity, among other things. IT even has a camera (130W pixels).
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Here's their website: http://en.001phone.cn/product-no-1-sun-smartwatch-100.html - No. 1 Sun S2, looks nice
@s7yler - look for to your review, if you decide to do one

looks like what conventional watch exactly?
holy crap that thing is ugly

JarlSX said:
looks like what conventional watch exactly?
holy crap that thing is ugly
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I on the other hand think it's great looking. Can't wait until it's released.

PolishPoet said:
I on the other hand think it's great looking. Can't wait until it's released.
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Bad news is that, It will release late, until next month

JarlSX said:
looks like what conventional watch exactly?
holy crap that thing is ugly
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I collect/mod watches and, the lack of numbers on the bezel aside, can think of a lot of watches. Like the Marathon WW194006 for one. Prometheus Jellyfish is another.

There is a $2 dollar coupon code here for people who are interested in pre ordering the device.

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I finally made up my mind on an Android Wear Watch! Which did you go with and why?

Hello,
So I was in the market for a new watch. I figured that if I am going to go out and buy a watch, I may as well go with a smartwatch. I want it solely to show me what time it is and for notifications. (Phone Calls and Text Messages mainly) So I could care less about a heart rate sensor. Here are all of the watches that I have considered, but decided against for various reasons:
Asus Zenwatch 2: This was originally what I wanted to get, until I went and looked at it at Best Buy. I can't stand the bezels. If the watch face was all display, I would have one on my wrist right now.
Moto 360 1st Gen: Then I looked at this, as it was $150 from Motorola for the model I liked. (Champagne w/ brown leather) The dated processor and smaller battery turned me away.
Moto 360 2nd Gen: I do like this overall, however by the time I get it the way I want, I can just buy a Huawei watch for the same price. (Dodging the flat tire LCD for an AMOLED)
LG Watch Urbane: I have mixed feelings about this one. I'm not crazy about the overall design and I have heard numerous reports of screen burn in.
Huawei Watch: I like this watch overall. However, I feel a 2nd Gen is right around the corner, and the price is a bit high.
Tag Heuer Connected: I really like this one! I do not like its $1500 price tag though....
Samsung Gear S2 Classic: I feel this watch is PERFECT for me. I love the design and the rotating bezel! I was super bummed to find out the display size and that it wasn't running Android Wear though....
This brings me to my last choice, and the one that I ended up ordering: The Fossil Q Founder.
I really do like the design of the watch itself! I feel it looks quite nice. I prefer leather bands, so the fact that it accepts pretty much any 22mm watch band is a big plus. (I wont wear metal bands) I also feel the Fossil Q is a better investment, which played a big part in my decision. The Intel Atom processor, 1GB of ram, and internal speaker make it seem more future proof to me. The 400mah battery should be sufficient for a full day of use. I expected to have to charge whichever watch I ended up getting nightly. The only downfall to the Q in my opinion is the infamous flat tire on the display. I can live with it though. Don't get me wrong, I would LOVE to have a Fossil Q Founder with the Huawei Watch Display. It is what it is though.
After reviewing pretty much every Android Wear watch, I found that none of them are perfect. There are pros and cons to all of them really. Even the Tag Heuer Connected, although I feel its only con is its price tag. lol. With very similar hardware and pretty much identical software I guess it comes down to personal preference of aesthetics ultimately. I like the design of the Fossil Q. The fact that it is a little better specd than others as well is what ultimately made me decide to get it.
I will update more when I get it. I am also going to (very carefully) pop the bottom off to see if I can find out which Intel Atom processor it is running exactly.
So what Android Wear watch did you go with and why?

xx

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I stopped wearing watches a few years ago as the bulk on my wrist started to annoy me and my phone told me the time so it seemed pointless. A few months ago the vibrate on my M8 stopped working, and as it was out of warranty and considerably hacked in the software department, I was kinda stuck until I can upgrade. I found myself missing notifications and calls and got pretty annoyed about it. I was holding out for the zenwatch 2 as it was cheap enough that if I didn't get on with it, it wouldn't be such a loss money-wise. However, it had limited availability and I didn't want to wait any longer as I would end up just waiting for the next better watch. I found a decent discount for the urbane and went for it. I always had chunky metal watches before (my last was a casio g-shock GW-1210U which I loved dearly, so I figured if I could change the band on the urbane to a nice metal one it wouldn't be much different. The Urbane is actually thinner than my old G-shock. Anyway, I love my urbane. Battery life is great, display is nice and it feels like a quality item. My only real issue with it is that it does lag sometimes, but I was expecting that so it doesn't put me off too much.
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Nice! I did look at the LG Urbane. Amazon has it right now for $250 brand new. So it was tempting. Especially being it has an AMOLED display with no flat tire. I just felt for $25 more dollars I am getting a slightly larger display, double the ram, and future speaker support. Personally, I like the design of the fossil more as well.

Zenwatch 2. I love it. Honestly, the software is all the same, and hardware to mostly. Zenwatch is more affordable meaning when gen 2 or 3 watches come out, you can put that extra money to get those.

Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the LG V30, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the LG V30 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

This is my first Android device since the original Moto X, which I only purchased to find out a little about Android.
I was not impressed with the Apple rollout this year, even though I've bought a new iPhone every autumn for ten years. I don't like the fight between Apple and Qualcomm, which has caused them to turn off some features on the Qualcomm chips so that nobody who gets an Intel modem feels inferior.
So far I'm enjoying the V30, although I am having a problem getting used to the keyboard. I know that an iPhone will kick its ass in benchmarks, but for everyday use, it hasn't mattered much yet.
Tremendous audio with a headset, and not ½ bad audio through Bluetooth or tethering.

Just compared headphone output from my T-mobile v30 to my wifes iphone x using my Shure 846's. No comparison, iphone blows away v30. Half the volume from iphone is equal to full volume on my v30 and v30 is supposed to have the built-in DAC! What gives? Makes no sense to me. I bought this phone thinking I could finally listen without dragging my Dragonfly around, but not happening this time around. The only music loud enough using v30 is loudly mastered, brick-walled music, which I rarely listen to. I usually listen to either Tidal or my own digitized vinyl rips. Very disappointing.

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Just compared headphone output from my T-mobile v30 to my wifes iphone x using my Shure 846's. No comparison, iphone blows away v30. Half the volume from iphone is equal to full volume on my v30 and v30 is supposed to have the built-in DAC! What gives? Makes no sense to me. I bought this phone thinking I could finally listen without dragging my Dragonfly around, but not happening this time around. The only music loud enough using v30 is loudly mastered, brick-walled music, which I rarely listen to. I usually listen to either Tidal or my own digitized vinyl rips. Very disappointing.
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Just asking, do you have the quad DAC enabled? It's a setting you have to turn on, not sure why it's not enabled by default.
There's also this, which is well-written and I'm quoting from another thread, one specifically devoted to the quad DAC and loudness:
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QuadDAC is not about loudness, it's about quality and fidelity of sound. It won't blow your eardrums with MP3s
It's not 75. Android has 16 grades of sound volume in stock, it's 0, 1, 2, 3, 4 .... 15, 16.
16 being loudest. If every 15 is divided in 5 it's give us 75= 15*5
So that's why V20 has only 75 grades, it's not that there's some magic extra 25 to 100, for they don't exist in Android. But you may get like 34% of loudness or 68% which you can't have in another Android phones, for they have 5% steps only
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@mistemuse, you seem to be confusing the quad DAC with the amp.
https://www.androidauthority.com/lg-v30-audio-797447/
The chip features stereo quad parallel delta sigma converter channels with a 32-bit interpolation filter for a low noise conversion process, which ESS calls its HyperStream II architecture. For the spec insatiable audiophiles, the ES9218 boasts 2.0Vrms output, 130 dB SNR and -114 dB Total Harmonic Distortion, and support for up to 32-bit 384kHz PCM and DSD256 file formats. Of course, real world additional circuit performance, required drive from the amp, and input file type will affect these stats somewhat, but they’re impressive nonetheless.
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But it should be loud enough if you have it enabled.

Yes, the DAC is automatically enabled as soon as I plug-in my cans. But really, weather it's enabled or not the degree of loudness appears the same to me. Also, before I bought this phone I thought I read many claims that the v30 in addition to a DAC, also had an amp as well. Maybe I was just being hope-full. In regards to the Android grade system that is mentioned, one need look no further than Phone Arena reviews, where they measure headphone output, and the v30 finished below the Note. One would think that if you were to brag about the audio in a phone that loudness would be cranked up as well because I do not know any audio lover that doesn't like their music loud. If HTC can do it why not LG?

This post makes no sense to me. The v30 DAC only works with wired headphones, the apple x is Bluetooth only. Is there something I am missing?

Yes you did. An adapter is provided with just about any phone that does not come with a headphone jack, enabling you to listen wired.

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This post makes no sense to me. The v30 DAC only works with wired headphones, the apple x is Bluetooth only. Is there something I am missing?
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No, you didn't really miss anything. There are people who are apologists for bad designs. (Any phone without a headset jack.) Apple isn't "Bluetooth only" -- but by removing the headset jack they are forcing you in that direction. You can't listen and charge at the same time (with the dongle they provide).
OR you can BUY a $35 dongle which lets you listen and charge at the same time. Apple took away functionality and then charging you money to add it back.
You have to carry an extra dongle around, which you can lose. Or you can buy their expensive headset buds. BINGO! After making fun of Apple last year for doing that, Google joined them this year in the biggest show of hypocrisy in a long, long time.
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Yes you did. An adapter is provided with just about any phone that does not come with a headphone jack, enabling you to listen wired.
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Yes, one of many dongles Apple makes -- so you can have back the functionality they took away in the first place.
You have to carry dongles around, which you can lose -- instead of having the 3.5mm headset jack in the first place. LG and Samsung have IP68 (higher) rating WITH a headset jack than Apple's IP67 rating WITHOUT a headset jack. So, had nothing to do with water/dust resistance, but instead trying to force you to use their pricey Bluetooth earbuds.
Samsung even made a video mocking Apple for such nonsense (including other dubious design decisions over the years).
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Others also make fun of Apple's dongle craze...

No password possible?
Total thread drift here, but is it possible to run the v30 with no password or fingerprint Id? I personally have no use for it...

I thought this review reflected the V30 very well. Also, the reference to the iPhone X having a unibrow sums up my take on that.

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Total thread drift here, but is it possible to run the v30 with no password or fingerprint Id? I personally have no use for it...
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The only problem with that is your display then is never locked. It's unlocked. You stick your phone in your pocket and the display can turn on and is ACTIVE. You can accidentally dial people, send garbled text messages, turn on apps, etc. aka "butt dialing", due to pressure on the active display. You really need to not only turn off the display, but lock it. Even a swipe gesture can be simulated with pressure in your pocket. I've seen many people complain about it, but the only solution is to lock the display so it can only be unlocked with a pattern/pin/fingerprint.
I set my phone to lock the display immediately every time I turn off the display. I then use a pattern to unlock the display when I turn it back on. When I get my LG V30, I will most probably use the fingerprint sensor.

Just got the V30+ (Black) and wow.. this thing is a beauty! Feels premium in the hand and looks stunning. Screen is almost perfect, wonderful colors, very sharp and super bright. The only issue here is the relatively narrow viewing angles. Far from a deal breaker for me, but it's up to you I guess.
I'll have to use it few days for a final opinion but so far I think this one is a winner. BTW, no uniformity issue here.

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Just got the V30+ (Black) and wow.. this thing is a beauty! Feels premium in the hand and looks stunning. Screen is almost perfect, wonderful colors, very sharp and super bright. The only issue here is the relatively narrow viewing angles. Far from a deal breaker for me, but it's up to you I guess.
I'll have to use it few days for a final opinion but so far I think this one is a winner. BTW, no uniformity issue here.
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Very interested in design.
It looks so bland in pictures.... Does it really strike you as different?

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Very interested in design.
It looks so bland in pictures.... Does it really strike you as different?
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Yes, definitely.
The black version is a beauty in my opinion.. feels and looks very premium.
The only problem with the design, and sadly it's a disease we have on most phones.. curved screen.
Screen protectors just don't like curved screens. It doesn't look as impressive when the edges of the screen protector don't have 100% contact with the screen.. you know how it.
Personally I'll take flat screen any day.
Given that all phones are curved a bit on the edges..I had the chose the best one for me , the V30.
Keep in mind, it does collect smudges and fingerprints easily.
Overall I am really happy with it.
Again, downsides : Narrow viewing angles, selfie camera, curved screen.
Battery life is great so far, we don't have AT&T here so no bloat. I get around 5 hours SOT with about 20 hours on battery and still have around 30% left.

galr said:
Yes, definitely.
The black version is a beauty in my opinion.. feels and looks very premium.
The only problem with the design, and sadly it's a disease we have on most phones.. curved screen.
Screen protectors just don't like curved screens. It doesn't look as impressive when the edges of the screen protector don't have 100% contact with the screen.. you know how it.
Personally I'll take flat screen any day.
Given that all phones are curved a bit on the edges..I had the chose the best one for me , the V30.
Keep in mind, it does collect smudges and fingerprints easily.
Overall I am really happy with it.
Again, downsides : Narrow viewing angles, selfie camera, curved screen.
Battery life is great so far, we don't have AT&T here so no bloat. I get around 5 hours SOT with about 20 hours on battery and still have around 30% left.
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I've got the unlocked v30 in silver. Overall, I'm happy so far, but not wowed by the design. It is nice and light and thin. I agree with your comments about the curved screen. I'm glad that the v30 screen is less curved than others. I went with a wet application screen guard made by skinomi. Happy with it so far. The edges haven't peeled up. If you go this route, you need to spend a lot of time with the installation to make sure the edges stay down. Hairdryer was key for me.
I'm coming from a LG G5. The one thing I noticed was that the whites were way whiter on the g5 than the v30.
Regarding your comment on viewing angles, how did you come to that opinion? I find them to be quite good. Did you run a test or use a display app to analyze the angles or is it just your day to day experience?

Chiming in for the V30S, essentially similar to V30 except for bump to 6GB RAM and 128GB internal storage.
I'm extremely happy with this phone.
With Soundmagic E80 headphones which trigger high impedance mode of the HiFi DAC set to "slow" filter, the audio is phenomenal - this is the main reason I bought this phone. The SD835 with 6GB is much smoother and faster than my previous phone with SD808 and 3GB. Display is fine, none of the issues reported with early V30's, the "comfort mode" to reduce blue light is a plus too. Fingerprint reader works well, a new convenience for me. Lighter and thinner than my last phone. Great battery performance. QC 3.0 is a substantial improvement over QC 2.0 and there are a lot of aftermarket chargers which also means some with safety certifications. Bootloader unlock and root, with the stuff you can do with that including Ti Backup with the bloatware freezing , AdAway, and YouTube adaway and background play (thanks XDA community!). IP68 and some degree of ruggedness. I load FLACs to feed the DAC so 128 GB storage was nice to find with the added SD slot (watching for mass market 512GB cards soon).
Only a couple niggles: The WiFi (client mode) does not handle same-SSID AP handoffs very well, it hangs my app streaming FLACs from an NAS when a handoff occurs (my last two phones could keep the app going through a handoff). Not a showstopper, the workaround is to use a single 2.4GHz AP so no handoff occurs (2.4GHz has enough range to cover my whole house). The longer screen makes one-handed use more difficult at times, trying to reach both the top and bottom which are father apart. Um, that's about it for the negatives so far. Others may have more problems but I keep things simple, no auto-brightness, no voice assistant, Nova Launcher with the obnoxious Google search field banished, no active wallpaper, LG keyboard replaced with Gboard minus the fancy stuff, privacy invasions, and built-in Google search, etc.
Really pleased so far. The B&H $250 discount deal was nice too, getting all this at the discounted price is a great deal.

Coming from the Apple environment, I'm very pleased. I've rediscovered that you CAN configure your phone to suit your personality and your needs, rather than what Apple thinks that we should consider important. And I'm absolutely ecstatic to still be using my wired headphone... and no... I don't care what the Bluetooth consortium maintains, Bluetooth 5 still does not come close to the quality and reliability of a quality pair of headphones through a properly supported 3.5 headphone jack. Apple is making a mint out of royalties to ensure compatibility with their wireless connected devices, (not to mention those ugly wireless headset they sell for around $149). Sure, I miss Facetime. And to a certain extent I also miss iMessage. But I'll stick to a device that I can use in accordance to my own needs... not Apple's. Pretty happy with my LG V30 ThinQ, so far.

Very satisfying device overall, coming back to LG, after the G4. Had Nokia 8 and Xiaomi Mi Mix 2 in between.

My LG V30 got a bit bored and I looked at the market - what interesting is available?
And it turns out that absolutely nothing can replace this phone!
All new smartphones are thicker, larger, or lacking in functionality such as wireless charging or water resistance. None has such a headphone amplifier!
The only smartphone that I thought about for a moment is the new Samsung S20 without plus, but I gave up.
Poorly functioning fingerprint reader under the screen (I love the clickable button with the scanner on the back), no 3.5mm jack, ugly island with lenses on the back ...
There is no alternative for me on the market.

figer said:
My LG V30 got a bit bored and I looked at the market - what interesting is available?
And it turns out that absolutely nothing can replace this phone!
All new smartphones are thicker, larger, or lacking in functionality such as wireless charging or water resistance. None has such a headphone amplifier!
The only smartphone that I thought about for a moment is the new Samsung S20 without plus, but I gave up.
Poorly functioning fingerprint reader under the screen (I love the clickable button with the scanner on the back), no 3.5mm jack, ugly island with lenses on the back ...
There is no alternative for me on the market.
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I know. This V30 series and the 2018 V35 -- which was an upgraded V30 (basically a V40 built in a V30 frame with NO notch) -- was the height of design and functionality. If only I could find the 128GB V35+... (only shipped to Brazil and I can't find any online).