G4 on display at ATT

G4 on display at ATT - G4 General

Just went to try it out. Side by side with my note 4, I found the colors less over saturated, but unlike the g3, the screen was very bright. Sounded good on YouTube too. Quite snappy. Camera v quick to come alive (faster than my note is). It had the plastic back. I don't really like the look of the note 4 but can't say I was enticed by the look of the g4. I think the g3 was a more attractive design. I definitely thought the s6 'looked' nicer and was more comfortable to hold.
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Dangg , i was just at the mall yesterday and checked a tmobile, best buy, and verizon retail to see if the had it on display. I assumed if they didnt have it, there was no point in ATT having it, so i didnt try

Thanks. Going to check that sucker out and compare it to my S6.

Picked up my AT&T g4 this morning and haven't put it down. Fantastic device.

I like this better than my S6. Crazy because I know the S6 has a better processor, GPU, faster storage, higher quality build materials, and probably better designed software, but somehow, I still like the overall package of the G4 better.

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From S5 to Moto X? Anybody else do it? Experience?

I have an Samsung S5 right now and have been tempted to pick up a Moto X. I would prefer the 32GB but you can't even order them online at this time so was thinking of 16GB at AT&T store. I can freeze the bloatware so not worried about that.
My main hesitation is I can't figure out what I'm really gaining from my S5. Screen is about the same, same CPU, same RAM, camera on S5 is better, bigger battery on S5, software is better on X, build quality is better...
So it sort of comes down to better build quality and software. Everything else would be the same or not much different.
Has anyone gone from S5 to X and what's been your experience?>

I'm on the same boat. I have an unlocked S5 16gb version. I got it in hopes that the S5 google edition would be released and I would simply convert it. Totally bummed because that never happened and I'm used to Google edition or Nexus phones. The S5 is riddled with constant lag across the UI and popups everywhere. Also the bloat on the S5 is amazing. I turned off most of the apps and found that this caused errors on other apps I couldn't disable, must be due to some dependencies. So I decided to go with Moto X, which is still currently being built and I'm expecting to receive on 10/8.
Some things I'll probably miss include the bigger battery (S5 easily lasts me all day with heavy use), SD card slot (had an extra 64GB for music and pics), and the IR blaster which I used to control my TVs or simply prank people :laugh:
But I'm willing to overlook all of the above since I'll be getting a better software experience, something I miss from all of my previous nexus phones and my S4 GPE.

I just came from a Galaxy Note 3 Developer Edition (running CM11) to the Verizon Moto X.
When you consider the unlockable bootloader, 3gb of RAM, and screen size, and S pen, the N3 DE has some advantages on paper vs the X.
I'm not trying to justify anything, nor convince anyone else to change.
My needs changed, somewhat, in terms of size, and I needed something just a little smaller. At 5.2", the new Moto X was about right for me. I would have not even considered changing if the X did not have stock AOSP, and such outstanding reviews.
So far, I am not disappointed with the X. But it is definitely not a competitor of the Note Series.
It is an outstanding device, though for someone who wants stock AOSP, and a very fast, smooth responsive OS.

I made this exact switch this past weekend. The S5 is a great phone, but I simply can't resist the combination of stock android and Motorola's enhancements. I love the look, feel, and fluidity of the Moto X, and the front facing speakers are wonderful (I stream a lot of radio at work). I really did enjoy the S5, and I will miss the screen and camera there, but overall I'm really enjoying the Moto X and am happy with my decision to switch.

The 32 GB is available again. If you want a white front those are delayed. I just built one (just for fun, pure edition) a little while ago.

I'll be getting the Verizon version tomorrow and I have the S5. I'll see if its worth the switch, if not I'll send it back.

I got an update yesterday night, and my new customized Moto X arrives tomorrow morning! Good thing I work from home tomorrow so I'll have it up and running in no time! Pretty excited!

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I got an update yesterday night, and my new customized Moto X arrives tomorrow morning! Good thing I work from home tomorrow so I'll have it up and running in no time! Pretty excited!
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I got mine today and I'm not sure if I like it.
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I got mine today and I'm not sure if I like it.
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Can you elaborate?
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Can you elaborate?
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It just doesn't have that wow factor. For me it's just a bigger screen. They're both snappy and fluid. I'm not seeing anything yet that says I'm a keeper. Is there something that you or others have seen or read that makes it stand out?

I disagree (just my opinion). I'm a phone hopper. I get the latest and greatest as soon as they come out (tablets included) and besides the battery life, which isn't the worst in the world by any means, this is hands down my favorite phone to date. My last 5 phones were the One Plus One 64g, Oppo N1 CM edition, Galaxy S5, Nexus 5, M8 and Note 3 (that's 7). I personally wouldn't go back to ANY of them from this years Moto X. It's really all about preference. I like stock android with a few bells and whistles. And the bells and whistles that Motorola has sprinkled in work flawlessly and I actually use. I'm not dogging Samsung, but the first thing I do when I get one of their devices is turn every single useless gimmicky crap off and put a Google Now launcher and Google Keyboard on it. I also have the Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 LTE with phone capabilities (to troll some people when making phone calls lol) and did all of what I said above to it before I installed anything. I hate to compare Motorola to Apple because the iphone and iPad bores the hell out of me, but Motorola paired their hardware and software as well as Apple does for the user experience. I prefer this phone over the red Nexus 5 and I'm a Nexus head. Just my two cents and my preference. If you're looking for a phone with zero lag, a beautiful screen, nice looking build, front facing firing speaker (which is dam loud BTW) and just an all around dam near perfect experience using it, then get the Moto X. If you're more concerned with battery life, removable battery, better camera and ALL the bells and whistles Samsung pours in then stick with the S5. The S5 is a great phone! And SD card support and IR blaster. Samsung's awesome.. I just prefer this Moto X.

I made the switch and while I am overall happy, I am very disappointed in the way that the Moto X handles drops. The GS5 is a beast and can handle abuse butI had a small spill last night that would've left the GS5 with nothing more than a scratch, however my X got a quadruple crack at the top left corner that extended all the way across the screen. And then magically a new crack formed this morning at the bottom COMPLETELY out of nowhere. This phone is great but it's SUPER FRAGILE.

i think the best way to say it is if you use the few features that moto has put on their phone, then you will have a much better experience over the gs5. other than that... its just a phone. there is something to be said for the beauty of the leather backs also.

I have used but not owned an S phone since the first generation (Epic with keyboard, great for its day). I use a Galaxy Note 10.1 tablet and a Moto G phone at the moment. Everything about the Samsung experience is some window dressing hanging off of android. I really like the note, but all of the touchwiz junk added to the device is irritating. With Motorola, it is all clean. Where they add, they do so through apps, so there is better control. On my G, I changed to the Nexus experience launcher, and the difference from the one packaged with the phone is almost imperceptible - I just gained a swipe to a screen of cards. The S5 and 2014 X are so technically similar, it will come down to if you like the Samsung experience or want closer to Nexus.

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So far, I am not disappointed with the X. But it is definitely not a competitor of the Note Series.
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It's not supposed to be imo, they are two different class of device. I think the Shamu will be more comparable, even then it's not designed with stylus in mind I think. The note is pretty much on it's own until a real stylus phone competitor come along.

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I disagree (just my opinion). I'm a phone hopper. I get the latest and greatest as soon as they come out (tablets included) and besides the battery life, which isn't the worst in the world by any means, this is hands down my favorite phone to date. My last 5 phones were the One Plus One 64g, Oppo N1 CM edition, Galaxy S5, Nexus 5, M8 and Note 3 (that's 7). I personally wouldn't go back to ANY of them from this years Moto X. It's really all about preference. I like stock android with a few bells and whistles. And the bells and whistles that Motorola has sprinkled in work flawlessly and I actually use. I'm not dogging Samsung, but the first thing I do when I get one of their devices is turn every single useless gimmicky crap off and put a Google Now launcher and Google Keyboard on it. I also have the Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 LTE with phone capabilities (to troll some people when making phone calls lol) and did all of what I said above to it before I installed anything. I hate to compare Motorola to Apple because the iphone and iPad bores the hell out of me, but Motorola paired their hardware and software as well as Apple does for the user experience. I prefer this phone over the red Nexus 5 and I'm a Nexus head. Just my two cents and my preference. If you're looking for a phone with zero lag, a beautiful screen, nice looking build, front facing firing speaker (which is dam loud BTW) and just an all around dam near perfect experience using it, then get the Moto X. If you're more concerned with battery life, removable battery, better camera and ALL the bells and whistles Samsung pours in then stick with the S5. The S5 is a great phone! And SD card support and IR blaster. Samsung's awesome.. I just prefer this Moto X.
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I have two questions for you, because you have used other phones, so you will be able to tell better, firstly, is the camera really improved from last year's X? And secondly how much Screen On time are you getting with normal usage?
I personally am looking for a phone to upgrade from my 2013 X, and I just can't find anything worthy!
S5: Great hardware, bearable design, brilliant display, very good camera, but TouchWiz, so no way.
M8: Camera. And I hate all aluminium build too.
Z2: Self crackling body! Also screen to body ratio isn't really great!
G3: LG's UI is no better than TouchWiz, maybe slightly better but it's still awful. But fantastic design, and OIS!
And then there's the X 2014: Extremely over saturated display. Leather back has questionable durability I suppose (and when leather is available it's impossible to choose something else, for me at least). I am highly doubtful about the camera quality. 32 GB variant is still not available in my country and 16 GB without an SD card slot is unbelievable in 2014. But polished UI, and the overall UI experience is near Nexus level.

I played with the Moto X in a store for a while and came away unimpressed. Camera seems so so unless you force HDR on. Screen seems over saturated and no way to adjust like on Samsung. Build quality is nice for sure and software seems nice and stock. I really wanted to get this phone but the smaller battery, lesser camera makes it hard to switch. I also have a wireless charging back on my S5 so I'd loose that and I have wireless chargers everywhere around my house. I don't think I'd honestly use most of the Moto software either especially since my Moto 360 gives me glance able notifications already and remote voice when phone is off.
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Since you have had so many phones could you please compare the one-handed usage experience between the M8, S5, and the Moto X (2014)? How would you rank them in that aspect?
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The ergonomics of the Moto X 2014 for one handed use smoke the M8 and S5. Motorola spent some time holding this sucker because it's VERY natural one handed for me. I would put the M8 in second place because of the curved back, but the aluminum is slippery as hell and then the S5. The S5 doesn't slip in your hand, but doesn't feel as natural as the Moto X does. This is just my experience though. Everyone holds their phones differently. My wife texts on her Note 2 with her left thumb and right pointer finger and it makes me mental lol.
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I have two questions for you, because you have used other phones, so you will be able to tell better, firstly, is the camera really improved from last year's X? And secondly how much Screen On time are you getting with normal usage?
I personally am looking for a phone to upgrade from my 2013 X, and I just can't find anything worthy!
S5: Great hardware, bearable design, brilliant display, very good camera, but TouchWiz, so no way.
M8: Camera. And I hate all aluminium build too.
Z2: Self crackling body! Also screen to body ratio isn't really great!
G3: LG's UI is no better than TouchWiz, maybe slightly better but it's still awful. But fantastic design, and OIS!
And then there's the X 2014: Extremely over saturated display. Leather back has questionable durability I suppose (and when leather is available it's impossible to choose something else, for me at least). I am highly doubtful about the camera quality. 32 GB variant is still not available in my country and 16 GB without an SD card slot is unbelievable in 2014. But polished UI, and the overall UI experience is near Nexus level.
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The camera is without a doubt better than last years Moto X and is fine for a pull out of your pocket shooter. It's perfectly fine for what I need it for and I own a restaurant and take a lot of pics of food for our social media. And I'm a bad person to ask about screen on time because I keep my screen on 100% 24/7 (I'm always near a charger). I haven't tested it consistently, but with heavy use I would say 3-4 hours screen on time and that's power using it.

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The ergonomics of the Moto X 2014 for one handed use smoke the M8 and S5. Motorola spent some time holding this sucker because it's VERY natural one handed for me. I would put the M8 in second place because of the curved back, but the aluminum is slippery as hell and then the S5. The S5 doesn't slip in your hand, but doesn't feel as natural as the Moto X does. This is just my experience though. Everyone holds their phones differently. My wife texts on her Note 2 with her left thumb and right pointer finger and it makes me mental lol.
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So if I could just barely reach the top left corner with my right hand on the S5, will it be easier to reach the same corner on the HTC One and even easier on the Moto X?

For the ones who ACTUALLY have the device

What's everyone's personal opinion on the device after having it for a couple of days? I'm picking one up regardless but I was just curious about the initial reviews and not just from all the hate threads about removable battery and expendable storage.

Why not read the many reviews now available online ? Reviewers from tech sites are no different to asking people here - just subjective opinions from strangers, and as you are intending to purchased one regardless ...
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Why not read the many reviews now available online ? Reviewers from tech sites are no different to asking people here - just subjective opinions from strangers, and as you are intending to purchased one regardless ...
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Because a message board allows people to interact rather than just read. It's a two way conversation rather than just one way.
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It's de definitely snappier when changing screens or apps. Don't know how much that is 5.1.1 or the newer hardware.
We have both the note 5 and the s6 edge plus in our house, and both of us agree the edge plus in s a nicer phone. The Note 5 just barley feels like an upgrade to the Note 4. We use cases so the glass back is pointless. Unless you have to have the stylus, go with the S6 Edge Plus, in my opinion.

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It's de definitely snappier when changing screens or apps. Don't know how much that is 5.1.1 or the newer hardware.
We have both the note 5 and the s6 edge plus in our house, and both of us agree the edge plus in s a nicer phone. The Note 5 just barley feels like an upgrade to the Note 4. We use cases so the glass back is pointless. Unless you have to have the stylus, go with the S6 Edge Plus, in my opinion.
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I honestly haven't put much thought into the Edge+ because I do use my stylist a couple times a day. I also heard the screen is a gimmick and some reviewers say it gets old after a while, might have to check one out in the stores.

I love the battery compared to the note 4. Standby time is amazing even though i have lots of installed apps and autosync on.

I'm enjoying mine quite a bit. It's my first Note, and really my first Samsung. I technically had the S6 edge for 2 weeks, but I returned it so I could get the Note 5, and because I didn't like the way it felt in my hand.
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Absolutely wonderful.
The software is amazing the most sophisticated piece of "equipment" I've very had. The keyboard fits my hands now. The battery is so amazing. I am blown away.
The camera is what I've always wanted in a phone now I have something to hopefully learn with. I am not missing anything. I actually believe I will be able to quit fiddling with things and learn with this this thing.
Note 5 here

crowlaw said:
It's de definitely snappier when changing screens or apps. Don't know how much that is 5.1.1 or the newer hardware.
We have both the note 5 and the s6 edge plus in our house, and both of us agree the edge plus in s a nicer phone. The Note 5 just barley feels like an upgrade to the Note 4. We use cases so the glass back is pointless. Unless you have to have the stylus, go with the S6 Edge Plus, in my opinion.
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Aren't there any cases with curved backs that mimic the note5's design?
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Aren't there any cases with curved backs that mimic the note5's design?
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I have the Ringke Slim Crystal Clear and it follows the phone's curves.
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In partial to the note since I have owned all 5! It is truly a great phone.. Awesome build, super fast, great camera, fingerprint sensor is very fast, perfect screen, and as always in an spen guy so that's awesome too.
Battery life is a good as the 4 for me and I'm a super power user.
Excellent phone imo
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This is my first Note, but certainly not my first large Android phone. I've had dozens of Android phones going all the way back to the OG T-Mobile G1. My most recent phone was the OnePlus One which I carried for a year and was very happy with.
As for the Note... I LOVE it! The screen is truly breathtaking, even coming from the OnePlus One which had a great screen. The camera is seriously what I've been waiting for since 2008... THIS is how a phone camera should be. The fingerprint reader is pretty cool and it's the first time I've ever used a security lockscreen on a phone and been happy with it. Battery life has been on par/maybe slightly better than the OnePlus One which had 100mah more capacity.
One thing that caught me totally off guard is how many software features this phone has that I've never seen in any other Android. My last Samsung was a S3, so TouchWiz has changed a lot since those days.
With all that said, this is the first Android phone I've had in AGES with a locked bootloader and no modding community. I'm not sure how I feel about that. I didn't realize this was the case until after my order had been placed. There are some things from custom roms that I immediately miss and wish I could get back like: double tap to wake, silent volume adjustment, linked ringtone and notification volumes(I did fix this with Tasker), and some others.
Another thing I'm bummed about... the clear cover over the camera flash and pulse sensor is made of crappy plastic and mine has scratches all over it already just from wiping it off with my Tshirt. Really bummed about this. I usually keep my phones looking brand new for at least 8-10 months and this one is scratched in 3 days.

Although there's been a lot of comparison criticisms between the Note 4 and Note 5, the Note 5 exceeds the note 4. One of the complaints is the 3000mah battery. While the Note 4 does have more (3250mah), the Note 5 actually outlasts the Note 4. This is both measured AND real-time use. So, while in some cases "size matters", efficiency is what comes into play with the Note 5. I also just read that the Note 5 has the best display of ALL smartphones currently on the market. I think most negative criticisms of the Note 5 is spec based and not real-time use based. WhIle some may think Samsung focused more on hardware, they did come up with a more efficient and better functioning device with the Note 5.

I had the note 3 back then, jumped on the Apple boat, and a few more devices including the oppo find 7a. But after much thinking, I was aiming for the edge plus, but considering I like to jot down stuff instead of typing, I went ahead and chose the note 5. Besides that, the camera allows you to almost control all settings manually which is a big plus for us photographers. Also, you still get the awesome tricks with the gestures and such. The battery life to me seems average, even though it has the qhd display, it holds its ground against similar screen phones.
Charging is very quickly now compared to my other phones. The body is quite a new style, and much more pro looking.
Overall great phone, but it comes down to personal choice if you want to choose this or the edge plus. Good luck!
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I sent mine back. I've had a lot of phones, and I've never sent one back. The main reasons I bought it were, in order of importance: 1) Fingerprint reader 2) Better
camera 3) Better display.
The fingerprint reader didn't work great for me. I found it just about as annoying as having to enter a pin or gesture unlock.
I have an LG G3, so I'm used to big phones, but this thing feels so heavy, and is just big enough that it doesn't fit in places where my G3 does.
The display and camera are nice, but not incredibly better (I know lots of people complain about the G3 display, but I think it's fine if you turn the brightness up).

I like the fact that the people who own one, are really liking their device. The Note 4 got a good amount of negative feedback when it was first announced but nothing like the 5. Like most cases, it's easy to point out flaws before even testing the device. On the way now to Verizon to pick mine up.
64g Black is what I'm going for. What did everyone else get?

I had the S6 edge before this phone and honestly its killing the Note 5 for me. The screen on the S6 seems more vibrant and clear than on the Note5. Also somehow the camera (which im told is the same on both phones) seems to take better low light pics with the galaxy vs the note. The differences are small and its still a great phone but i may end up back with the S6... Im gonna give it a few more days and see how i feel

Was told last Friday not to pre-order because I wouldn't receive my device until past 8/24 and was guaranteed that the Verizon stores around me would have 64g Friday morning. Turns out none around me have them... Thanks Verizon!

Been enjoying the phone a lot recently after switching from my iPhone 6 Plus and being on Apple phones ever since the iPhone 4. The only issue I have is apparently my battery life is bad because I used to get through a full day with my iPhone and would have roughly 30% left when I went to sleep. I've been finding out recently that I have to charge the Note 5 during the day in order to last as long. The system predicts my battery will be dead by 9 PM tonight which I thought was kinda short.. I'm not a super heavy user so I don't know what's causing it to die quicker than normal, nothing in power usage hints at what it is either..

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I have an LG G3, so I'm used to big phones, but this thing feels so heavy, and is just big enough that it doesn't fit in places where my G3 does.
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153.2 x 76.1 x 7.6 mm
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146.3 x 74.6 x 8.9 mm
a difference of (+)7.1 x (+)1.5 x (-)1.3 mm from the G3. The width should feel essentially the same, 1.5mm difference is going to be close to imperceptible. 7mm extra height is enough for you to notice, but not enough to really make a difference for most people. and it's thinner so it should fit in pockets or slim places easier.
The only major difference is weight, 149g vs 171g.
I'm not sure why you seem to think the note5 is bigger because it is, but by 7.1mm at the most compared to the G3, I dont know if I believe you when you say it doesn't fit in the same places as the G3, a difference of 7mm shouldnt be enough to do that.

Device Comparison: Galaxy S7 (Exynos G930FD) vs. OnePlus One

I know, this seems like a no-brainer: Two-year old Chinese upstart’s first device vs. the 7th generation Samsung Galaxy flagship phone. But here’s why: I sold my S4 and skipped the S5 & S6 because the OnePlus was that good, and back then the motto “Flagship Killer” was no exaggeration. And after having the S7 for a week now, I realize that I could have been pretty content pressing on with my OPO—it’s still that good. But I wouldn’t go back, and here’s why:
DESIGN
When I unboxed the OPO it blew me away. The unboxing experience was amazing for a $350 Chinese device, from the quality of the packaging materials, quality of the accessories (even the SIM tray ejector tool!) and the device itself looked amazing. I had unboxed the S3 and S4—this was better by 100 miles! The S7 unboxing experience wasn’t nearly as good as the OPO, just meh... another typical Samsung box with a cool flap that has a magnetic lock.
But when I put the two devices side-by-side, the OPO feels well... merely good whereas before it felt amazing. The S7 takes it up several notches and is absolutely stunning to look at and stunning to touch! If they made a Braille version for blind people, I know they’d love it!
S7 clearly wins over the OPO which is saying a lot.
DURABILITY
I don’t use cases, usually don’t use screen protectors and I don’t drop my phones. In two years, my OPO has taken one fall from the seat of my Tacoma onto rough pavement. That fall merely scuffed a corner before the phone landed face-first on the glass with no discernible scratches. If that had happened to the S7...
In favor of the S7, it has an IP68 rating which the OPO doesn’t. But, since I won’t treat even my S7 like a bath toy, the best moisture protection available is something both devices have—a careful owner.
OPO wins over the S7, which is totally expected. Don’t drop a glass & metal sandwich expecting great things!
DISPLAY
I’m fine with anything above 1080P. I have extremely good near-sighted vision and can occasionally discern pixels on the OPO, though it’s not a bother. So the S7 earns a hollow victory on this front if you ask me.
But I’ve missed SuperAMOLED, and the S7 reminds me why—the deep blacks extracted from a nearby black hole, better color saturation, and yawning viewing angles that are tough to beat.
Both are capable of great color accuracy. My July 2014 OPO doesn’t have the yellow band issue found in many early production models.
In favor of the OPO, it does have good enough viewing angles, but the best thing is that there is very little color shift (none?) at even deep viewing angles. As soon as an AMOLED screen goes off-center, the colors shift blue-green. Not so with the LCD on the OPO, though there is a significant drop in brightness.
S7 easily over OPO, though LCD does have its advantages.
AUDIO
A weakness of the OPO but a strength of the S7. The DAC (at least in the Exynos version) of the S7 is great and the speaker is by far better.
S7 over the OPO.
BATTERY LIFE
No contest here: The OPO is better than the S7 by a long-shot (maybe 25-35%) with a similar usage pattern. I know this isn’t very scientific, but I’m on the charger a lot more with the S7. It’s DEFINITELY better than the S3, S4 and Nexus 5 I had before the OPO. Both devices charge really fast, but the S7 is a bit faster.
OPO clearly over the S7, but the S7 is good enough for me.
CAMERA
Absolutely no contest here either. In low light, the S7 absolutely kills and buries the OPO. In high contrast situations, the HDR on the S7 is also miles beyond what the OPO is capable of. The fast focus on the S7 makes the OPO camera seem like jurassic technology. Only in great lighting during the day are the two phones comparable, but even then it's the S7. This is one major reason that I upgraded. I've attached some comparison pictures below. The S7 pictures are the first 4, the OPO the last.
S7 over the OPO in an unfair contest, like pitting the 2007 Dolphins against the 2007 Patriots.
PERFORMANCE
I don't care about benchmarks. I’m also not much of a gamer, so I don’t really care about frame rates, except that something in TouchWiz is crippling games with 2D graphics. I’ve looked under battery saver settings, Game Launcher and Game Tools, enabled “Force GPU rendering” under developer options, installed Samsung Game Tuner, all with no joy. Hopefully a future update will address this issue. The power is there, but something deep in TouchWiz is throttling it.
The S7 loads apps faster. I’ve also noticed that even though encrypted, the S7 runs circles around the OPO in USB transfer speed.
S7 over the OPO.
DEVELOPMENT
Samsung is trying to make it so that we can’t use the words “development” and “Galaxy” in the same sentence. On the other hand, the OPO’s development scene is as prolific as the bacteria culture flourishing on a 1,000 Riel bill that’s been passed around open-air markets in Cambodia for the last 10 years. If that makes no sense to you, let’s just say it’s on par with any Nexus device out there!
Since the only S7 that can be modded is the Exynos version, I may get some custom TouchWiz ROMs in the future.
No contest here, nor will it ever be—only the OPO showed up to this fight.
THEMES
I’m not a huge themer, but being able to apply an AOSP-like Marshmallow theme over TouchWiz is a great bonus. Nova Launcher puts the icing on the cake.
If this is your thing, both are good. Maybe a themer can chime in and add more.
Tie...
TL;DR
In my non-journalist and non-scientific completely subjective opinion, they both win and I'll be keeping both.
The OPO beats the S7 in unboxing experience, durability, battery life and development, an area which is as close to night (S7) and day (OPO) as possible.
The S7 beats the OPO in display, audio, camera, design, performance—basically every category relevant to the operation and use of the device except battery life and durability.
The bottom line is that I love the S7 and see myself keeping it for a long, long time. But, neither is the OPO for sale—I’ll be keeping it to satisfy my ROM flashing addiction.
If you’re thinking of moving from the OPO to the S7 and have the coin to do so, I think you should. Just make sure that you have something beside the S7 if you need a platform for flashing/customizing.

I have the S7EDGE and owned an opo for 1.5yrs. Its no contest, even battery life is miles ahead on the S7EDGE. All in all, the S7 is the most complete device on the market to date

Added pictures to the OP, from the OPO first, then the S7.

Very well written, thanks for posting your thoughts.

I can agree to nearly every sentence you wrote. I had an Opo for about 1 year and switched to the Galaxy S7 a few weeks ago. If I had not already switched, I would switch after reading your post. For me, the major reasons for me to use the S7 as my main phone were
1. camera
2. smaller form factor.
In the meanwhile I put my S7 in a spigen thin case, which adds better grip and increases the overall size minimally.

I don't have a OPO, but I guess in terms of smoothness it's like a nexus device: butter smooth. How do you guys the OPO smoothness to S7, in apps like chrome, YouTube, playstore... Is the S7 as smooth as the OPO?

nsmart said:
For me, the major reasons for me to use the S7 as my main phone were
1. camera
2. smaller form factor.
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I could have written this myself!
gusoldier said:
I don't have a OPO, but I guess in terms of smoothness it's like a nexus device: butter smooth. How do you guys the OPO smoothness to S7, in apps like chrome, YouTube, playstore... Is the S7 as smooth as the OPO?
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It can be even smoother if you turn off all the power saving junk.

CafeKampuchia said:
I could have written this myself!
It can be even smoother if you turn off all the power saving junk.
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Which power saving junk?
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nsmart said:
I can agree to nearly every sentence you wrote. I had an Opo for about 1 year and switched to the Galaxy S7 a few weeks ago. If I had not already switched, I would switch after reading your post. For me, the major reasons for me to use the S7 as my main phone were
1. camera
2. smaller form factor.
In the meanwhile I put my S7 in a spigen thin case, which adds better grip and increases the overall size minimally.
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I also made the switch the same time from a Opo as you. I really wish i didn't though. I don't like the edges (inadvertent taps), that its not rootable, sensibility issues, bloatware etc. I also had to get a glass protector, normally i don't do this but it scratches really really easily. So i don't like the feel of it. I would have liked to have waited for something better to have come out. My Opo lasted about year too. Normally my phones last longer but the audio insert broke on my phone and couldn't listen to music with out holding the cable in. The 2 for one special seemed like a great deal but too many draw backs.

iamnotkurtcobain said:
Which power saving junk?
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Under Settings > Battery > App power saving and Battery > Battery usage > More > Optimize battery usage.
jackscagnetti said:
I also made the switch the same time from a Opo as you. I really wish i didn't though. I don't like the edges (inadvertent taps), that its not rootable, sensibility issues, bloatware etc. I also had to get a glass protector, normally i don't do this but it scratches really really easily. So i don't like the feel of it. I would have liked to have waited for something better to have come out. My Opo lasted about year too. Normally my phones last longer but the audio insert broke on my phone and couldn't listen to music with out holding the cable in. The 2 for one special seemed like a great deal but too many draw backs.
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I got the international dual-SIM version (G930FD) so mine is rootable and had no carrier bloat.

jackscagnetti said:
I also made the switch the same time from a Opo as you. I really wish i didn't though. I don't like the edges (inadvertent taps), that its not rootable, sensibility issues, bloatware etc. I also had to get a glass protector, normally i don't do this but it scratches really really easily. So i don't like the feel of it. I would have liked to have waited for something better to have come out. My Opo lasted about year too. Normally my phones last longer but the audio insert broke on my phone and couldn't listen to music with out holding the cable in. The 2 for one special seemed like a great deal but too many draw backs.
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I would have preferred to buy the Galaxy S7 with sandstone backcover and 64GB internal storage. I don't notice any inadvertent taps any more. Maybe it's the spigen case or it was fixed with the april update, I don't know. I don't have carrier bloatware, only the samsung bloatware (plus facebook), but most of it can be deactivated. If I feel the need to mess again with recovery and custom roms, I would turn on my opo again. In the meanwhile I am just using my Galaxy S7.

I too have switched from my opo to s7. Now that I think back, I miss having a 5.5 inch screen and the stock Android feels. As much as I dislike touchwiz, I was bought over by the awesome camera

Just ordered the Galaxy S7 yesterday. I too am coming from a OPO, which I'm not handing down to my wife. It has really served me well over the past two years. The things I'm most looking forward to is the smaller forfactor. 5.5" is just too large and one hand use is nearly impossible unless I'm running LMT launcher.
I'm getting the Exynos version and this time around I'm not planing on rooting. I've done that to every phone and tablet I've had since my HTC Wildfire. But this time I'm actually looking forward to just using the phone as it is. I've grown a bit tired of the stock android feel. To me it's just boring and bland, so it'll be great to once again being back on a UI that has more of complete feel to it that stock android (I know almost everybody will dissagree with me on this).
I feel like the rooting scene hasn't got much to offer anymore. "Back in the days" there where a lot to be gained from rooting. I overclock my Desire S from 1 ghz to 1.7 ghz and you could really feel the difference. Now the most used custom roms on the OPO underclock from 2.5 to 1.9 ghz, because the processor is fast and powerful enough at that freq.
All in all, I'm looking forward to getting my S7 with all it's pros and cons. Also I've ordered the Spiegen Neo Hybrid Case, 'cause I totally agree on OP views on durability.

BTW, wanted to add that the S7 charges crazy fast, even with the OPO'a charger.

From s7 edge to 6p

Hello guys, i just want to ask from users of s7 edge if anyone here before owned a nexus 6p. I have a s7e now (via contract 2 years) never had a 6p and im thinking of selling it because i feel uncomfortable coz of the curves, i had a g4 and it was really a very good phone overall. I tried holding a 6p and i can say it is really a huge phone (powered off so i didnt see the actual display and never played with). I am also fan of custom roms, as for the s7e the development is not going too far like the nexus devices.
So anybody here from nexus 6p owner that own a s7e now? How does it feel? Are you still thinking of going back?
I found a 64gb at 429 euro. Any suggestions?

I didn't own the 6p but had a close look at it before committing to the S7E.
It is built well but quite a bit larger than the S7E. It will surely be easier to keep clean than the Edge but if you add a case, you'll end up with a very large phone.
I didn't like the display. It is both dimmer and especially the whites were not as clean. I also didn't like the large'ish display borders.
The phone looks good switched off
The camera is reported to be decent but I wouldn't expect the same results as from the Galaxy.
Not water resistant either.
As regards rooting, you can root some of the S7's. Personally I have no problem with the latest touchwhizz. The phone runs like greased lighting and I have no need to root.
For me it was an easy choice to go with the Edge.
I also had an Op3 for a couple of weeks before selling it on. I would suggest that phone over the 6P.

switched from the 6p to the 7E and I have no regrets, the 6p is huge, hardly fit in my jeans' pockets, the camera was meh too (compared to the S6 I had before and to the S7E). Also I kinda need a SD card. I love my S7E, it's not perfect but I love it.

I have a 6p still and the s7 edge. Haven't turned on my 6p for 2 months now lol. Love nexus for pure Android but I like the display much better on s7 including brightness and the much smaller bezels and phone size in general. Actually I love the edge screen as Well.
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I have both, the S7 Edge first.
The S7E is my main device and the only real reason I have the 6P is because I managed to find it really cheap.
I LOVE the 6P.
It's much faster (obviously, it's vanilla Android), and in my opinion it's a better "in-the-hand" feel even though it's huge.
However, the S7E has a far superior camera, much better single-hand usage (if that's at all important), and a far better screen.
Don't get me wrong, the screen on the 6p is fantastic, but it isn't as bright, or as white.
I quite like the 6p, so much so that it's my "Spotify" device, as well as my travelling phone.
However, for me, the S7E is a far better phone for multimedia and for people who have little or no interest in modifying Android.
That being said, the Android N Dev preview on my 6p is great.
But yeah, the s7E wins when it comes to media and ease of use.
It has all of the gimmicks, but the 6p is smooth, fast and reliable.
In my opinion; it's just huge and cumbersome.

thedarkmunk said:
I have both, the S7 Edge first.
The S7E is my main device and the only real reason I have the 6P is because I managed to find it really cheap.
I LOVE the 6P.
It's much faster (obviously, it's vanilla Android), and in my opinion it's a better "in-the-hand" feel even though it's huge.
However, the S7E has a far superior camera, much better single-hand usage (if that's at all important), and a far better screen.
Don't get me wrong, the screen on the 6p is fantastic, but it isn't as bright, or as white.
I quite like the 6p, so much so that it's my "Spotify" device, as well as my travelling phone.
However, for me, the S7E is a far better phone for multimedia and for people who have little or no interest in modifying Android.
That being said, the Android N Dev preview on my 6p is great.
But yeah, the s7E wins when it comes to media and ease of use.
It has all of the gimmicks, but the 6p is smooth, fast and reliable.
In my opinion; it's just huge and cumbersome.
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Exynos s7 is pretty smooth too, is the 6P that much faster?

oxxshadow said:
Exynos s7 is pretty smooth too, is the 6P that much faster?
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No, 6p is the same if not slower in fact.

Thanks
Thank you everyone who replied here.
I was considering selling my S7 Edge for a 6P or OP3 but after reading the comments here I've definitely decided to keep the S7. I use it like a pc and coupled with root and Xposed it's just daft! Simplest way to put it tbh. Fast, reliable and so many capabilities. Cm13 would slow this beast down, simple. Torrents plus USB connector and you're the guy sticking the latest media on any device pretty much anywhere too.

drummerman said:
I didn't own the 6p but had a close look at it before committing to the S7E.
It is built well but quite a bit larger than the S7E. It will surely be easier to keep clean than the Edge but if you add a case, you'll end up with a very large phone.
I didn't like the display. It is both dimmer and especially the whites were not as clean. I also didn't like the large'ish display borders.
The phone looks good switched off
The camera is reported to be decent but I wouldn't expect the same results as from the Galaxy.
Not water resistant either.
As regards rooting, you can root some of the S7's. Personally I have no problem with the latest touchwhizz. The phone runs like greased lighting and I have no need to root.
For me it was an easy choice to go with the Edge.
I also had an Op3 for a couple of weeks before selling it on. I would suggest that phone over the 6P.
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Agreed. I have had all 3 and would recommend the OP3 over the 6P. And I recommend the S7 Edge over both of them.
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if you love the 6p I recommend you to get the Alcatel Idol 4s..despite the low numbers, the snapdragon 652 outperforms the 6p's snapdragon 810..the idol 4s has the best speakers in the market as of now..the screen is reverseable meaning no matter how you pick up your phone, the screen will flip

hello00 said:
if you love the 6p I recommend you to get the Alcatel Idol 4s..despite the low numbers, the snapdragon 652 outperforms the 6p's snapdragon 810..the idol 4s has the best speakers in the market as of now..the screen is reverseable meaning no matter how you pick up your phone, the screen will flip
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Only if his budget is $400. Otherwise the S7 Edge would be the clear winner other than speakers.
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In all fairness, there was only going to be one choice on this particular forum.
Perhaps post a similar question on the 6p one. There have, I think, been some that changed to the 6p and were happy in the process.
Neither one are bad phones. Neither are perfect.
The S7e is just more perfect imho

WizeGuyDezignz said:
Only if his budget is $400. Otherwise the S7 Edge would be the clear winner other than speakers.
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specs wise? yes. the fact that the 4s is a mid range phone and it costs way less, it does half of the things the s7 cant do

hello00 said:
specs wise? yes. the fact that the 4s is a mid range phone and it costs way less, it does half of the things the s7 cant do
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What does it do that the S7 can't do? Other than speakers, boom button and upside down UI, I can't think of any. And I find two out of those three things gimmicks BTW.
And let's not forget about all the things the S7 Edge can do that the Alcatel can't do either.
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oxxshadow said:
Exynos s7 is pretty smooth too, is the 6P that much faster?
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In my experience, the 6p stutters a lot less than the S7E, and I also have the Exynos UK version.
The S7E is a great phone, it isn't slow by any means! But perhaps the only reason I'm experiencing slowdowns on the S7E is due to it being my main phone; so all of my apps and their data are there..
However, the 6p definitely surprised me.

WizeGuyDezignz said:
What does it do that the S7 can't do? Other than speakers, boom button and upside down UI, I can't think of any. And I find two out of those three things gimmicks BTW.
And let's not forget about all the things the S7 Edge can do that the Alcatel can't do either.
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other than the speakers, etc? well those you gotta count if not then whats the point?
-stock android
-front & back speakers
-flashlight front camera
-reverseable screen
-360 degree images
-faster autofocus
-boom key
-fm radio
now as for the s7? let me do that for you and like I said..specs wise the s7 is better
-water resistant -which is a false advertisement
-slightly larger screen
-4gb ram
-wireless charger
-faster cpu
-better pictures

Thinking about upgrading Note 4 to LG V20. And has some questions!

Hey everyone I'm from Toronto, Canada. I currently own a Samsung Note 4. I wanna buy the LG V20 but I want to root it and also have it work with Freedom(Wind) mobile's LTE network. Is there a American or International LG V20 that is rootable & can take advantage of Freedom's LTE network.
Any answers would be helpful!
Thanks

hey there!
here you can find some details about the lte frequencies each version supports
https://www.techwalls.com/lg-v20-model-numbers-differences/
since freedom uses b4 and b66, I guess your only choice for a full LTE support is H918.
actually on freedommobile.ca you can get the h915 with full official support to their bands... no idea if it's rootable though, guess you'll need someone else to help on that

I'll bet if you went to the ROMs and other development subforum, you'd find the answer to your question regarding root. The search function will help you, too.

Like I said in another thread. Go back to your Note 4. Trust me I regret getting rid of my Note 4 for this POS. Went through 2 v20's already and waiting for my 3rd replacement as this one just died.

Dont do it. I sold my note 4 for a note 7, then of course had to turn the note 7 in and I mistakenly chose the V20 as a replacement. I wish I could have kept my Note 4, because the V20, even with updated processor, is no better than my previous Note 4. In fact, the camera on my note 4 was WAY better. =(

SaintZ93 said:
Like I said in another thread. Go back to your Note 4. Trust me I regret getting rid of my Note 4 for this POS. Went through 2 v20's already and waiting for my 3rd replacement as this one just died.
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damn you must be as salty as the sea LOL! Only my first one had issues with the sim card, my second one is perfect!

i actually owned both phone now and I would go for v20 anyday. I have sent my note 4 to repair 3 times.

SaintZ93 said:
Like I said in another thread. Go back to your Note 4. Trust me I regret getting rid of my Note 4 for this POS. Went through 2 v20's already and waiting for my 3rd replacement as this one just died.
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Whats wrong with the LG V20? I think it would be a perfect phone if it had a Super AMOLED display instead of Quantum LCD. I think that's the only thing I'm giving up. :crying:

I have both. The Note 4 was my primary phone before purchasing the V20. In my opinion, the V20 is a much better phone. My Note 4 has been sitting in my nightstand, untouched for months. I know many disagree, but I prefer the LCD display over AMOLED. While AMOLED may look slightly better, it really isn't something you'll notice in daily use. Plus, my Note 2, 3, and 4 all suffered from screen burn-in rather quickly. Something you don't have to deal when using an LCD display
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Outside of the battery saving power of amoled and the stylus, everything is better than the note 4.
- faster processor (about x3 in benchmarks)
- double space
- 1gb more of ram
- better camera
- better display (in certain aspects)
- second screen no other phone has is quite useful once you get used to using it especially playing music without having to turn the screen on.
Having to replace a phone 3 times for defects is extremely rare, the chances of getting a perfect unit is much higher. I am curious to know what SaintZ had problems with.
I upgraded from a note 3 to a v10 and had no regrets and that phone wasn't nearly as good as the V20.
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evo4g63t said:
Outside of the battery saving power of amoled and the stylus, everything is better than the note 4.
- faster processor (about x3 in benchmarks)
- double space
- 1gb more of ram
- better camera
- better display (in certain aspects)
- second screen no other phone has is quite useful once you get used to using it especially playing music without having to turn the screen on.
Having to replace a phone 3 times for defects is extremely rare, the chances of getting a perfect unit is much higher. I am curious to know what SaintZ had problems with.
I upgraded from a note 3 to a v10 and had no regrets and that phone wasn't nearly as good as the V20.
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I know I wish it was Super AMOLED display then the LG V20 would be a complete upgrade. Can always swap out the battery. LG V20 looks like a direct upgrade to the Note 4.

Ive got my note 5 and the v20. I also had the hct 10.
I love the amoled screen for samsung but i was getting tired of not having something a little newer.
The v20 has s good processor and is managing heat a ton better then i imagined after their last few phone's.
The screen is big.. Overall color is that of a lcd. Cf lumen or any 9other color adjustment is a good option when rooted
The battery is fair. It is removable so that i guess is a plus.
No wireless charging
Finger print scanner
Dual cameras are cool.. Still some grain on screen when taking photos that shouldn't be there. It dosnt actually effect photo tho.
Ir sensor on top is nice. It reads and sends thats a huge plus.
Type c port is nice
Sd card slot.
I mean overall its not bad at all.. There could be some adjustments to speaker quality and the 2nd screen utilization. Its fast and sturdy.. Probably lgs best phone they've put together.. But the note 7 still would have killed it cold if it hadn't been recalled.

Team DevDigitel said:
I mean overall its not bad at all.. There could be some adjustments to speaker quality and the 2nd screen utilization. Its fast and sturdy.. Probably lgs best phone they've put together.. But the note 7 still would have killed it cold if it hadn't been recalled.
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Agreed speaker could use a definite update only company that seems to do decent in this department is HTC.
I also think the options for the second screen when it is on should be the same as when it is off, the options when the screen is off is pretty limited.
I would agree on the note 7, in fact I was considering a jump from the v10 until all that battery bs happened.
If the Note 8 offers a removable battery I will definitely upgrade but that's very unlikely. I like getting aftermarket batteries for my phones and a battery charging case isn't the same in my opinion.
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I was a huge fan of the Samsung Note line and I had every one of them up to the Note Edge (which is what I had up until I got the V20), but personally I had to draw the line when Samsung started trying to be like Apple and did away with expandable storage and removable battery with the Note 5.
It's just a shame because I actually really liked the Super Amoled screens and especially the S-Pen, but I just refuse to own a phone that can't be rooted, doesn't have expandable storage, and doesn't have an IR blaster (because I literally use it to control my entire house).
With that being said the only real option for me was the V20 and to be honest I was actually surprised to see all the negativity towards it, I love my V20 and I'm still extremely glad that I got it because I was honestly worried about whether I'd like it or not (especially just coming off of 6 plus years of having nothing but Samsung phones).
I love the placement of the fingerprint scanner/power button and it's just nice to finally have a fingerprint scanner that actually works right for once, and overall the V20 has been smooth as butter for me with impressive battery life, I really like and use the crap out of the dual cameras, and overall it's been hands down the best phone I've had to date.
To each their own of course but for me at least it covers all the "requirements" I look for in a phone, which unfortunately is getting to be like finding a diamond in the rough nowadays.. so I'm glad I found it!
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jeep447 said:
I was a huge fan of the Samsung Note line and I had every one of them up to the Note Edge (which is what I had up until I got the V20), but personally I had to draw the line when Samsung started trying to be like Apple and did away with expandable storage and removable battery with the Note 5.
It's just a shame because I actually really liked the Super Amoled screens and especially the S-Pen, but I just refuse to own a phone that can't be rooted, doesn't have expandable storage, and doesn't have an IR blaster (because I literally use it to control my entire house).
With that being said the only real option for me was the V20 and to be honest I was actually surprised to see all the negativity towards it, I love my V20 and I'm still extremely glad that I got it because I was honestly worried about whether I'd like it or not (especially just coming off of 6 plus years of having nothing but Samsung phones).
I love the placement of the fingerprint scanner/power button and it's just nice to finally have a fingerprint scanner that actually works right for once, and overall the V20 has been smooth as butter for me with impressive battery life, I really like and use the crap out of the dual cameras, and overall it's been hands down the best phone I've had to date.
To each their own of course but for me at least it covers all the "requirements" I look for in a phone, which unfortunately is getting to be like finding a diamond in the rough nowadays.. so I'm glad I found it!
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V20 is is missing one thing though. A stylus. Other than that everything else trumps the note series handily.

I never used the stylus on my Notes for anything except doing a screen capture. On my V20 I have a screen cap icon setup on my buttons below the dock. Right between the home and recent app button.
Love my V20.

midmadn said:
I never used the stylus on my Notes for anything except doing a screen capture. On my V20 I have a screen cap icon setup on my buttons below the dock. Right between the home and recent app button.
Love my V20.
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Even better we can use pie for shortcuts and all that if you are rooted . Screw the styles. Lol i never used it either when i went through the note's series

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