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I had my nexus side by side with a Droid last night. And I noticed that when the AMOLED screen on the nexus dims down. it gets REALLY red and distorts the contrast/colors alot.
Is this normal? When my brightness is at a normal setting it looks great. its only when it gets dim. Im a little concerned.
its fine, thats just how AMOLED displays work.
I can't agree that it's fine ... if colour infidelity is part and parcel of AMOLED then maybe HTC should reconsider their use of it. I notice the red tint at all brightness levels but it's most noticeable at the lowest level.
I always have the brightness at 0% and automatic to off when not plugged in. Don't see any severe redness.
well, I guess it's not normal , I got my frist one with dead pixel but the color is bright so I did a refund as they recomended and buy a second one but this one came with redish screen..... I did the comparison and the one with the dead pix is a lot more brighter , so my luck sucks
This is my second nexus, both have pinkish hue when on lowest brightness
I haven't noticed any red/pink issues at any brightness with my phone, but I haven't done any side-by-side comparisons.
Call HTC support and see if this is a known problem they fix or if it is just part of a normal working Nexus One.
It's a part of a normal Nexus One. My friend had the red / pinkish hue on his screen and called HTC for a replacement. Once the replacement came, it was exactly the same hue. But with 50% brightness, it isn't noticeable. However, I'm probably the lucky one because I don't experience the 'problem' with 0% brightness on my Nexus.
Some nexus one don't have the red tint, I got 2 nexus one and one have the other doesn't show any red tint even at lowest brightness. I guess its just difference screen from difference suppliers.
This is my second nexus, both have pinkish hue when on lowest brightness
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I agree with this completely.
Well I used to cause a big fit about the N1's HTC would warranty swap me because of this issue. The first N1 I purchased didnt have this problem. I just bought the NS today and right away I noticed the same exact issue. Is it safe to say that maybe this should be considered a normality rather than a defect?
Its actually the Amoled tech itself...It cant reproduce whites perfectly so they come out cool....thats why its off a bit but in return you get exact blacks
Lcd's are opposite...you get real whites but no real blacks.
It shows up in certain shades of grey, like in contacts and in clock dimmed while set on lowest brightness setting. The whites and other colors display fine.
Yeah i saw that too but thats the OS thats doing that so you should be cool
Is it either on the bottom or top? I have watched a YouTube unboxing video clip says that when you browse with your nexus s to the top of the page, or the the lowest of the page, it will actually dimmed darker. This is to let you know you have reached the lowest or highest of the page. You couldn't scroll anymore .
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No, it has nothing to do with scrolling. It's exactly what I've said. Also I'm pretty positive its not a software issue. It's definitely the display. It must be either new materials Samsung is using for there displays or a calibration issue!
I also noticed this today, the purplish tint while on lowest screen brightness in a very dark room. If you bump up the brightness slightly, it goes away.
Nothin for me. No tint.
For me when I have the screen off I notice there is a purple tint to it compared to say a vibrant maybe that is the cause of you're problem
what i'm speaking of shows only while the screen is on.
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I also noticed this today, the purplish tint while on lowest screen brightness in a very dark room. If you bump up the brightness slightly, it goes away.
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This is right on the money. Same exact issue with my N1 and now i see it with the NS. I notice this on the N1's because my very 1st purchased unit displayed perfectly without any kind of discoloration after dimming the brighness below 50%. Soon after I warranty exchanged that unit for another, I recieved one with the tint issue. After I exchanged a couple more times, I recieved another without the tint issue but the touchscreen problem was much worse than the others i've had so i sent that one in. After that, i havent received one without the tint problem yet. I bought the NS expecting not to see this problem again and lo and behold, it surfaced as soon as i dimmed below 50%.
I checked out the demo phones, and every one had it on the lowest brightness setting. I think it has something to do with the new colors in the OS. If everything was black, it would be harder to see, so they use a little purple to differentiate when on a low brightness setting. You dont have to turn the brightness up much to make it go away
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I checked out the demo phones, and every one had it on the lowest brightness setting. I think it has something to do with the new colors in the OS. If everything was black, it would be harder to see, so they use a little purple to differentiate when on a low brightness setting. You dont have to turn the brightness up much to make it go away
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The issue I'm speaking about, it doesn't literally "go away" in the manner you might be thinking. Its just that certain shades of greys are affected by it. Here's how to test for it, goto a dimmly lighted area and set the brightness thru the power widget to highest. Next, goto the dialpad on your NS, and notice the bar topright below the menu tabs, it should be grey. Now go back to your power widget and switch brightness to lowest setting. Go back to the dialpad and look at that bar again. It still should remain grey no matter how I adjust the brightness levels, but instead it'll shift to a light purplish hue.
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The issue I'm speaking about, it doesn't literally "go away" in the manner you might be thinking. Its just that certain shades of greys are affected by it. Here's how to test for it, goto a dimmly lighted area and set the brightness thru the power widget to highest. Next, goto the dialpad on your NS, and notice the bar topright below the menu tabs, it should be grey. Now go back to your power widget and switch brightness to lowest setting. Go back to the dialpad and look at that bar again. It still should remain grey no matter how I adjust the brightness levels, but instead it'll shift to a light purplish hue.
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It's because of the amoled screen uses the pentile sub pixel layout. I thought this was well known. All Samsung amoled screens do this as the all use pentile sub pixel layout, which many people hate as the feel its not as good as the true 3 sub pixel layout screens. And It's true it is not as good, but I still prefer it over non amoled screens, crap pentile and all.
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It's because of the amoled screen uses the pentile sub pixel layout. I thought this was well known. All Samsung amoled screens do this as the all use pentile sub pixel layout, which many people hate as the feel its not as good as the true 3 sub pixel layout screens. And It's true it is not as good, but I still prefer it over non amoled screens, crap pentile and all.
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Yes I know about the subixel stuff with the amoled displays, but I have to disagree with you as far as all of them display this way. As I've mentioned before, I've had 2 N1's without this issue. I'm gonna go back to BB to see if they can open a couple so that I can do some comparisons.
As I said, mine is this way too, but went to 2 BB's tonight and checked out the demo models at each store. They both had the weird purple tint as well, on those few shades of gray, like you pointed out. I also watched the Engadget video review and could see the purples on their phone too. I think all the NS's are like this, just the way the screen is. Perhaps in a software update, they could tweak the colors a bit and fix it.
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It's because of the amoled screen uses the pentile sub pixel layout. I thought this was well known. All Samsung amoled screens do this as the all use pentile sub pixel layout, which many people hate as the feel its not as good as the true 3 sub pixel layout screens. And It's true it is not as good, but I still prefer it over non amoled screens, crap pentile and all.
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this is not true. i had to go around 4 Galaxy S screens and finally i was able to find one without pinkish color in it in low brightness.
if you want to tell if you have pinkish hue. download a solid dark gray wallpaper. turn the brightness to low. if you see it pink. then you have defective screen. i repeat. its a defective screen. dont justify your self with it.
i went through 4 galaxy S and i was able to find one where white is actually white and closer the the cool blue. not a friggin pink
and its not amoled screen either. the iphone 4 is same issue. go to macrumors forum and check for your self.
i went through like 6 iphones to get one with cool blue and no yellow tint in it.
the difference is light and day now when i compare my iphone 4 to my other friends.
if you have an OCD with this " because i do. i have OCD for light leakage, same black level the whole screen, yellow/pink tint on the screen in low settings "
the whole phone to me is nothing but a big screen. if they f*** that up. then its useless
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As I said, mine is this way too, but went to 2 BB's tonight and checked out the demo models at each store. They both had the weird purple tint as well, on those few shades of gray, like you pointed out. I also watched the Engadget video review and could see the purples on their phone too. I think all the NS's are like this, just the way the screen is. Perhaps in a software update, they could tweak the colors a bit and fix it.
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its not a software problem.
its hardware issue. when my phone with pinkish tint along with my brother one didnt have one, i thought it could be a software issue, and we even both implimented the voodoo fix : galaxy S : and still looked different.
its a hardware issue. and i really think you need to change your phone. because if you are like me, who cares alot about his phone, then once you see someone with a nexus S and you compare the whites and the gray colors on both phones. you will be one sad panda.
hell put the brightness up to the max even. you will still see the difference in white level between a pinkish/yellow tint screen and cool blue one. its not even funny :/
Yes I'm definitely OCD'd on this issue lol. I'm still not total convinced that this a defect yet. Ill be going to a few BB's today to do some comparisons. If I do find one without the tint, then cot dammit, shame on Samsung for allowing this to slip thru on these screens again! Ill report my findings later.
My NS suffers from this horribly on top of the bad touchscreen issues it also has. Def. a defective unit
I'm hearing a lot of different stories regarding the screen turning heavily pink when the brightness is at its lowest.
Thought i'd make a poll to see how many people are affected, then we can hopefully gather its its a hardware defect.
No pink here, even using an app that takes it lower than stock.
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I'd say it's more purple than pink but yes I have it. Same thing when I had a Galaxy S4. I'm pretty sure they're using the same AMOLED tech, which is a shame but yeah.
spunkfaucet666 said:
I'd say it's more purple than pink but yes I have it. Same thing when I had a Galaxy S4. I'm pretty sure they're using the same AMOLED tech, which is a shame but yeah.
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No pink here, even using an app that takes it lower than stock.
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Make sure to actually vote guys, would help out a bunch
I have had two 6's and sent the first back because of the pink issue. 2nd phone is still pink below 1/3 brightness slider, just not as pink as the first. Called Google and talked with a hardware tech and they said it was part of the performance of the screen, and just to keep it above 1/3 brightness (wack). Both phones I had only turned pink with adaptive brightness on and the slider below 1/3 in a dark room. In normal lighting it doesn't seem to dim into the "pink" range.
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I have had two 6's and sent the first back because of the pink issue. 2nd phone is still pink below 1/3 brightness slider, just not as pink as the first. Called Google and talked with a hardware tech and they said it was part of the performance of the screen, and just to keep it above 1/3 brightness (wack). Both phones I had only turned pink with adaptive brightness on and the slider below 1/3 in a dark room. In normal lighting it doesn't seem to dim into the "pink" range.
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Same. I use adaptive brightness. My grays have a pinkish hue at very low brightness settings. Doesn't bother me, don't usually have brightness so low.
Just part of being an early adopter, I suppose. Not that big a deal to me, but I can see how others might be upset. It's my first phone of this caliber so I'm still totally stoked with it.
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My device turns pink with adaptive on in a dark room. Also without adaptive only when the screen is just about to turn off.
Mine does this of course, because it is something that happens with every AMOLED phone I can think of. It was something I forgot about of course being on a phone with a regular LCD screen for the last year, but as soon as I got my Nexus 6 I remembered about this little quirk of AMOLED. Hopefully custom kernels can minimize how much we notice it with custom color calibration.
Mine is also much more purple than pink, if it is actually a really pink color them maybe something is wrong, IDK. My purple tint doesnt start to happen till I am about 25% of the way down the brightness slider. All the way down and the screen is very heavily tinted purple. But that is too dark to see with anyway so I never turn things down low enough to make things look bad enough that I would actually care about. The screen look beautiful in any normal lighting conditions. I just think of it as a "night time feature" to be easier on tired eyes. lol.
Wasn't this talked about before release? I thought it was part of the brightness setting and to make it more of a battery saver?
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On... So if I jack my brightness down, it gets a little pink. Whoopty-do... Why care? It looks fine at whatever brightness I use and I've never expected a display to look perfect when it's almost off. It's not some damning evidence that the thing is low rent.
Everyone's looking to complain. Omg, If I click on back 19 times while shaking the phone and switching back and forth into chrome, I drop a frame.... A $650 shouldn't do that!
Smh
Oh I'm not looking to complain at all, I just wanted to see if it's something everyone had or not.
I've just heard so much Conflicting info on this it's driving g me nuts... Either way, I'm super excited about getting it ?
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... Either way, I'm super excited about getting it ?
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You should, it's a great phone. But like every other phone out there, there will be some that have issues and others that are just here to stir the pot.
Heck, I thought it was a feature to make it easier to read text with the brightness super low...
*shrug*
Well, I guess if it's a bug I am glad I got a bad one. Sure as heck not sending it back with the PVS 13. With my luck I'd end up with a 2.
My 2014 Moto X screen turns pink when I crank the brightness down also on lollipop. I think it's due to the AMOLED screen because I can do the same to my N7 and it doesn't turn pink. I've noticed on lollipop that the screen can be made a lot dimmer than on kk
This is all due to amoled folks. And partly how it is calibrated. But it is an inherent quality in these display panels. As long as it's not pink at your "normal" viewing brightness then :thumbup:
Sorry my screen is pretty:good:
One thing I have noticed is that with adaptive brightness on...if I turn my brightness all the way down I do see tint pinkish hue. If I turn my adaptive brightness off and turn my brightness all the way down...I don't have a pinkish tint on the screen.
Anyone else's screen reacts this way?
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I've been reading about this issue all over. Maybe I lucked out but I don't have the pink issue at all.
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One thing I have noticed is that with adaptive brightness on...if I turn my brightness all the way down I do see tint pinkish hue. If I turn my adaptive brightness off and turn my brightness all the way down...I don't have a pinkish tint on the screen.
Anyone else's screen reacts this way?
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Yeah mine does. Lol I am now learning that adaptive is not the same as auto-brightness. But seems like with adaptive on it keeps the screen a bit darker than without. I noticed with the slider maxed out or turned all the way down it gets much brighter and dimmer respectively with it off.
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I've been reading about this issue all over. Maybe I lucked out but I don't have the pink issue at all.
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If you turn adaptive on, and manually turn the brightness all the way down (something you would likely never do in real word use) you will see it. Even in a dark room I don't see it since my display is still bright enough to stay over the threshold where this phenomenon manifests. If I go lower the brightness way down however, it appears.
Okay so I bought a new Moto X (2014) last week In India. Everything about the phone is great. It was already on lollipop. But when I decrease the brightness to below 30-40% the display gradually becomes more and more purple. And with Adaptive Brightness on and in a dark room, it's so purple that the green and yellow shades appear grey or black. I know amoled panels have this problem at very low brightness and apparently many Nexys 6 users are also facing it. However I didn't see many complaints here in the Moto X forum.
So if you have this problem please vote in the poll above. Then I can ask them for a replacement. Thank you.
I'd later add some photos of the screen.
P.S. If you are experiencing this, please add some photos so that people can compare it with their displays.
ok i have this problem too, but when I'm in the bed and reading random news this purple display isn't disturbing me. i can feel it relax more my eyes. so i can say i take advantage from a bug
I don't think this is a bug, way easier on the eyes in the dark, perhaps some kind of a feature on AMOLED and Lollipop. The Nexus 6 has it, too, i think.
I don't know if anyone else noticed that in direct sun light, the screen goes extra bright - like indoor bright + boost?
This is not a feature. It's an issue with amoled displays. That's why Samsung limits the lowest brightness to a higher level. While Moto X seems to go way down. I just want to know if everyone's having this. Then it's okay. But if it's not everyone then there're some good amoled panels out there and we are getting the bad ones.
Yup, keep noticing this before the screen goes completely off.
It's not a "bug" with AMOLED displays, it's inherent to the way the displays work. Red LEDs use much less power than other colors so when the brightness is down low the displays looks like it has a slightly red tint to it. While Samsung does keep their best displays for themselves the lack of a red tint is not due to that but is instead due to not letting the brightness go as low on their displays.
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It's not a "bug" with AMOLED displays, it's inherent to the way the displays work. Red LEDs use much less power than other colors so when the brightness is down low the displays looks like it has a slightly red tint to it. While Samsung does keep their best displays for themselves the lack of a red tint is not due to that but is instead due to not letting the brightness go as low on their displays.
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That's what I meant. Not quite the best choice of word, I guess. But if that was the case, everyone should have had the pink tint at low brightness. Do you mean the ones who are not getting it are either lying or have Moto X's with LCD panels?
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That's what I meant. Not quite the best choice of word, I guess. But if that was the case, everyone should have had the pink tint at low brightness. Do you mean the ones who are not getting it are either lying or have Moto X's with LCD panels?
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Well, only 2 out of 11 people have reported no color distortion. And remember that while you're asking "Is there a purple tint?" they're answering the question "Have you noticed a purple tint?"
What I've noticed is that when Adaptive Brightness is on, the display gets super dark and causes the purple tint. When I turn Adaptive Brightness off in a dark room, it actually completely loses the purple tint, and compared to my Galaxy Tab S 8.4 at lowest brightness, the screen is brighter than the Tab S. So I guess Motorola hasn't caught up with Samsung's display technology since my Tab S can actually get dimmer without such a dramatic color distortion - for my Moto X to get to a brightness level that dim, I need to turn on Adaptive Brightness (thus with the purple tint).
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I wouldn't say it gets a Purple tint but rather a reddish one with adaptive light.
And I LOVE it. This way I don't have to install Lumen.CF or any other stuff. Way easier on the eyes at night and it gets reeeeeeaally dark. Just perfect!
I also love that it naturally has a lower white temperature point than other lcd/phones screens. Warmer white is cozy white.
7 votes for without purple/red tint.
People who are not seeing the tint, can you please upload a side by side photo of "your phone at lowest brightness with the adjustment bar visible" and "a white paper".
CosmoDroid said:
7 votes for without purple/red tint.
People who are not seeing the tint, can you please upload a side by side photo of "your phone at lowest brightness with the adjustment bar visible" and "a white paper".
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I voted for no color distortion as my display is very very good. I can tell you there is certainly a variation in displays. A few months back someone posted about being able to see color banding and such. Those of us with really good displays do not see that. I was going to order a Pure edition to replace my unlocked XT1097 but the display is so good on it I decided not to, I doubt another one will be as good. I had 5 different Moto X 2013 models and the displays varied on each of them as well. I kept the best one and my 2014 model is still quite a bit better then the best 2013 I had.
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I voted for no color distortion as my display is very very good. I can tell you there is certainly a variation in displays. A few months back someone posted about being able to see color banding and such. Those of us with really good displays do not see that. I was going to order a Pure edition to replace my unlocked XT1097 but the display is so good on it I decided not to, I doubt another one will be as good. I had 5 different Moto X 2013 models and the displays varied on each of them as well. I kept the best one and my 2014 model is still quite a bit better then the best 2013 I had.
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The rest of the phone in my case feels pretty solid and well built. Also I'm getting 47k+ scores on Antutu. Hence I am having second thoughts about getting it replaced.
My PE doesn't turn purple and has better whites than my AT&T branded one. The screen on that one is awful to me but I also use a G2, iPhone 6, '13 N7, no one notices but me.
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After three replacements, I finally got a decent one. :laugh:
I'm pretty sure this is just a feature of the moto x2 go to Settings/Display and turn off adaptive brightness, you will see that it changes to normal
born1690 said:
I'm pretty sure this is just a feature of the moto x2 go to Settings/Display and turn off adaptive brightness, you will see that it changes to normal
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Indeed, when adaptative brightness is turned off, purple tint will not occur. However, I am not sure this is a "feature". It actually looks more like a poor implementation of auto brightness.
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Okay so I bought a new Moto X (2014) last week In India.
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I use the CF Lumen app to turn down the red and green just a tad in the master mode. That makes my screen less pinkish.
I had the purple display issue in 5.0. Now I upgraded to 5.1 and the issue is gone. Colors are well balanced down to minimum available brightness.
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I had the purple display issue in 5.0. Now I upgraded to 5.1 and the issue is gone. Colors are well balanced down to minimum available brightness.
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Running 5.0 having the same issue waiting for the update. Will report back thanks for this info I thought it's a amlod display issue, new to this display past few years was on lcd panel device's just got this device more than a week only now. But this is a great news. Thanks.
when I look at my Nexus 6P directly it is white, but when tilting it has a blue tint.
Is this common in AMOLED displays or is it a defect.
Normal.
Yes that is normal. But if you had said it was blue directly looking at it and turned white at an angle, then it would be a defect.
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Yes that is normal. But if you had said it was blue directly looking at it and turned white at an angle, then it would be a defect.
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It is very noticeable in white pages tilting it a little causes faint blue.
Compared the device to a nexus 6 mine has little blue when tilting a little like 10-15 degrees the nexus 6 doesn't why?
Very little viewing angle change turns whites into light blue
I have a nexus 6p and it drives me crazy with its color shifting, for a very little viewing angle change it turns all whites into blue and the more i turn it it goes into a rainbow effect. According to the people of internet an amoled panel should have great, nevertheless better viewing angles than a lcd panel. Well i have to say thats not the case now, i have a oneplusone to compare the two to eachother and the oneplusone has basicly no change of whites other than it gets a little bit darker but it does not rainbows out whatsoever. But on the other hand the nexus 6p for the smallest change from straight can change its white color. Very annoying.
Is there any solution for that, or it is what it is, and take it or leave it?
Anybody might has a solution for that?
It is what it is: third one arrived today and still not the best whites but it is the better of the three. The build date on mine is 11/3.
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Honestly it doesn't bother me because I always look at directly. If you really want to go postal, tilt it almost at 180 degree then you'll start to see rainbows. What bugs me is that even on direct facing, mine doesn't have even whites. Bottom is more green and top is more pink. But that's another topic on this forum.
It shouldn't be normal. Viewing angles are supposed to improve as tech improves. You wouldn't accept viewing angles like this from an oled tv.
My Samsung galaxy s3 had amoled screen and didn't suffer from this. And that was when amoled tech was way behind what it should be now.
Is this really normal for all 6P users? I think my phone didn't have that blue tint until I accidentally turned on "Picture Mode: RGB" under developer options. Now it doesn't matter if I turn it off or on again. The blue tint is seen each time I don't look straight at the phone. I even did a hard reset just to be sure. Did that accident really break the viewing angle or is it just my imagination?
My older Nexus 5 doesn't have that issue. The blue tint isn't seen when looking from all angles.
Apparently that's normal for Amoled screens.
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I've gone through a few Nexus 6P devices and all have been very similar and all of them have this issue. I would agree that all AMOLEDs have a similar issue however the Nexus 6P has a very narrow band of vertical visibility. I am either very susceptible to this and/or I use my phone at a slight enough angle and it drives me nuts.
I'm coming from a Nexus 6 that I didn't have the same issue with. Sure, if you angle it at extreme angles it gets weird, but I'm okay with that.
I just got the new gold variant and it does this.. Been trying to get used to it but it's driving me insane. anytime I type or move the phone around when pressing things all the whites turn a blue tint..